Polish Post puts Kosovo "somewhere in Russia"

'in russia'..

kosovo is in serbia, and russia and serbia well you know.. :) so they got it right really.
hey this is a great article. see when they say they also tried to send it to this place kosovo in poland? Because kosovo is a slavic word. It's in slavic toponims wherever slavs may be. But not albanians.
Btw my gratitude to polish president for his common sense and common decency.

According to him, Poland has not established diplomatic relations with Kosovo because of the fact that Polish president Lech Kaczynski and the government do not see eye to eye on whether the proclamation should be recognized at all.
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This is the same point I made yesterday. Recognitions are worthless without establishing diplomatic relations so we can narrow down true recognitions of "Kosova" to about 10 I'd say. Pretty appalling if you ask me and a waste of effort.

Pristina has spent millions to have a few countries and islands say a few worthless words regarding recognition and the province is still as backwards as ever but in the mean time Russia is spending millions in South Ossetia and the region is booming.

Ha! Hahahaha!
That was a great way to start my day! I can't wait for the K-Albanians camp to react to this one. Maybe they should take a cue and advertise internationally accordingly: "Come one,come all! Visit Kosovo...the beacon of humanity, the Eden of Europe... Free GPS and Map available to customers!"

The way the Polish Post behaves reflects how all decent people feel about Kosovo 'state':
Kosovo is some scary territory, atrocious place, county somewhere faraway behind God's back, a shameful nightmare swiped under the carpet and it should remain there, for a long long time out of sight of all decent world.

It's good to see there are still politicians with courage and integrity. I applaud you, President Lech, for standing up for your principles and beliefs. Kosovo, Poland, I wonder what that place is like?

Dear Marinel,

It will take time and hard work to put Kosova in the map,but we are in the right direction!
If you had bad experience in Kosova or with Kosovan Albanians,I do apologise,but you can't generalise this and giving us all so many "compliments"!
I wish Serbia all the best in the future and I wish that they would leave us alone,they had a chance for many decades to prove that they want to live together with us,they blew it and now we can go separate ways!!!
No hard feelings!
The jibes and jokes about Kosova will continue in the future as something more serious can't be done!
Gezuar and Ziveli!!!
As for Poland,since 2004 when they joined th EU,20% of population left the country for a better life,this maybe answers many things about Poland!!!

Well, this laughable news nicely illustrates were Kosovo stands at the moment on the International scene: somewhere behind Coco Islands!

BTW, sorry for my ignorance, but where this divine group of islands actually geographically stand?

This is the same point I made yesterday. Recognitions are worthless without establishing diplomatic relations so we can narrow down true recognitions of "Kosova" to about 10 I'd say. Pretty appalling if you ask me and a waste of effort.

Correction Zoran,
Not many countries have diplomatic relations with every single country in in this planet. Only those that can afford and for its own interests. Can you claim that Serbia has diplomatic mission in every single country ? I know they don't, so convince me otherwise.


Pristina has spent millions to have a few countries and islands say a few worthless words regarding recognition and the province is still as backwards as ever but in the mean time Russia is spending millions in South Ossetia and the region is booming.
(Zoran, 10 August 2009 13:29)

I am sure russia can afford to build homes and feeed population 30-40 thousand. what is the big deal, or maybe you thought that South Osetai has a population of 2-3 milion, right.

Polish post has Kosovo "somewhere in Russia"

Good for them. Is the earth still flat?

I think it is silly that they will not send post to Kosovo, because I would expect post to reach Wales, without the UK on the address or to Vojvodina without Serbia written on the address or to Texas with the US written on the address etc. This is the sign of a poor postal service in my opinion. Why should a postal service get involved with politics? They should help their customers by trying their very best to send mail to the correct address regardless of politics.

Before Kosovo declared independence it was possible to send letters to Kosovo without Serbia/ SiM/ Yugoslavia/ UNMIK on the address. Countries which don't recognise Kosovo will send mail to Kosovo, not because they recognise Kosovo but because it's only common sense and they are being a helpful postal service.

Ataman, first it's.. you make me work too hard :) here, cyrilic keyboard.. it's 'поље', not 'поле'. look at this thing of pure beauty this serbian letter Љ. look and you'll see russian (and also our serbian) Л and russian Ь all merged in one. and its pronounced like that.
Next. so if kos is a borat-word :) not strictly slavic if i understood well? what's kosovo doing in poland? kos does means blackbird in my lingo, but imho the name could also come from something else, and by the way is drozd the same as blackbird in russian? Becuase we also have word 'drozd' in serbian but i think it means like, a family of various birds including blackbirds.
Anyway i have revolutionary thoughts :) 'kos' could also be from the verb 'kositi' in serbian, in english it's to mow or to harvest. Which makes sense since its a field and also kosovo has plenty planes where people grew crops and whatnot. metohija we know is monastery land that's how it got its name from our churches and monasteries.
Either way kosovo is ours in word and DEEDS.
:)

Because kosovo is a slavic word. It's in slavic toponims wherever slavs may be.
(smile, 10 August 2009 16:26)

"Кос" is more archaic and more typical for south of Russia. In Southern Ural, Kazakhstan or along Southern Volga the blackbird is called "Кос", but in the north it is called "Дрозд".

The rest is trivial since "поле" is of neutral gender and hence it will invoke the "ово" ending instead of "ова" or "ов".

Interesting parallel is "кулик". From certain point of view, "Косово поле" is just the historic opposite of "Куликово поле", but both are birds.

Claiming, "Kosova" is an Albanian word is as absurd as make "Kulikova" and claim, it's a Mongolian word.

Good to see that average poles have not become politicly correct and have not been infected by brainwashing of mainstream "polish"(most of employees are not native poles)media.Fortunately 90 percent of population do not support the independence of this fake state.Once a truly patriotic goverment is elected that dishonest recognition of fake state will be withdrawn.Despite the fact that I am not a suporter Of Lech"the duck"Kaczynski"it is worth mentioning that guy is very pro-american and anti -russian yet a good example that these facts do not exclude that someone can be pro-serb at the same time.Anyway does anyone know this little bird http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kos I think polish is much more similar to serb than albanian.The word kosova sounds so stupid.

Thats because everyone realizes that Kosovo is Serbia regardless of the puppet theatre is going on in Pristina.

my flight because the airline employee kept insisting she could not let me on the plane without a visa for "Siberia".
(pss, 10 August 2009 21:25)

Right on, that's exactly where Kosova stands today....

or maybe you thought that South Osetai has a population of 2-3 milion, right.
(Kosova-USA, 10 August 2009 17:41)
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Looks like someone bit off more than they can chew but it aint Russia.

svojgazda

I have driven past this village in Poland (it is called Kosowo). My wife comes form the Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodship from a town called Œwiecie (nad Wis³¹), which is about 50-60 kilometers from this village.

It is no surprize that the Polish postal workers confused them, since probably both have the same GDP as each other ;)

louie

20% of the Polish population, you say? That would mean that over 7.5 million Poles have left Poland to go work in other countries since we joined the EU and shows that you should probably do research.

Anyway, large numbers of Poles are coming back now, since our economy is more favourable than that of the US, as per these articles:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3378877.ece

http://www.theglobalist.co.uk/world/europe/2008/05/the-exit-poles/

Now, with only 5.5 million Albanians out of 9 million actually living in Albanian countries, that means about 40% have moved elsewhere to search for a better life, which means you should probably not be in the position to criticize Poland.

szemi

I know why you think that, but I only think the Kaczory think that way just to be against the ideas of Tusk.

http://kosovareport.blogspot.com/2006/11/poland-backs-free-and-independent.html

Unless maybe he really changed his mind about it.

Well, the Poles soon figured out that they made a mistake when they elected "the Good Soldier Švejk" for prime minister and his carbon copy, the current president.

Thank god, the Poles torpedoed the first one from office. I hope they do the same to the second when the time comes.

After that the government ought to take care of those postal workers who've decided that they're authorized to make political decisions on their country's behalf.

Piotr,

Kosovareport(newkosovareport) is much less reliable source even than polish media.If I want to have a good laugh I read them.Often childish albanian comments on this forum hint at the source of information.I do not know other albanian media organs but cannot be reliable either if they write about 20 % poles leaving their country.

szemi

You are right, I didn't take into account it might be Albanian propaganda.

Well, the Poles soon figured out that they made a mistake when they elected "the Good Soldier Švejk" for prime minister and his carbon copy, the current president.
(Ment, 10 August 2009 18:26)

The stance towards Kosovo independence is just a political stance.
Dshorsh Dubyah Bush is pro-independence and in eyes of any self-respecting Albanian it should not make him any less criminal as he is, plus Cheney, of course.

As for Lech Kaczyñski or Kim Jong Il (just two samples) - they are anti-independence. That does add little on my side to improve their image even if they are IMO right on that.

I wonder where the Polish post sevice think they did send the peace troops,Russia? they got a point there.

Ataman,Smile,please don't fight over the name whatever it means,it will soon be changed in the original one anyway.

The Polish president has publicly stated that he would veto any effort by the government to open an embassy in Priština or send an ambassador to Kosovo.

Who need Poland anyway when we got Marshall Island, Guinea Bissau and the Maldives?

This situation is becouse polish government accepted Kosovo's Unilateral Declaration of Independence against international law and against opinion of majority of polish citizens and polish president. Polish FM Radoslaw Sikorski only few months before Kosovo's UDI spoke in polish parlament against Kosovo independence, but in February 2008 he support UDI!! Why?? Maybe any American pressure?? This declaration of polish government was only political declaration because pressure from USA, UK, Germany and France who supported Kosovo independence, but polish politicians still are deeply divided with Kosovo's casus.

Wow! Kosovo is not in Russia?

It takes very little to amuse some.
Reminds me of a few years back that I was flying into Kosovo, and it was still listed as part of Serbia. I missed my flight because the airline employee kept insisting she could not let me on the plane without a visa for "Siberia".

Ataman, first it's.. you make me work too hard :) here, cyrilic keyboard.. it's 'поље', not 'поле'.
(smile, 10 August 2009 20:20)

I did not write in Serbian. ;-)
For us, the non-softened "е" is written as "э". That's the fine difference...

In other words:

Serbian (non-existing) "поле" would be written "полэ" in Russian which is non-existing, too.
But "поље" is written in Russian as "поле" since "е" auto-magically softens the "л" for us.

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Next. so if kos is a borat-word :)
(smile, 10 August 2009 20:20)

It's not, it's Slavic purely. Just not used in the Northern Russia or the literature language. As for Kazakhstan - it is justified to regard it largely just to be Southern Russia. Like Belarus or Ukraina... just pick up a random number there and call it. With a good probability no one will even understand Kazakh, Belarussian or Ukrianian on the other end.

The Kazakh birth rates are much higher, so ultimately it is changing.

Reminds me of a few years back that I was flying into Kosovo, and it was still listed as part of Serbia. I missed my flight because the airline employee kept insisting she could not let me on the plane without a visa for "Siberia".

(pss, 10 August 2009 21:25)

Are you serious?

Because there is ONLY ONE again ONLY ONE country on Planet Earth where airline employees are that smart (i.e. with negative IQ level). No need to guess, we all know, what country it is.

But it has no (regular) flights to Kosovo and some flights which do exist are manned by people who know more than average citizen of that country about Europe.

See more here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqi0DwNLJdM

According to him, Poland has not established diplomatic relations with Kosovo because of the fact that Polish president Lech Kaczynski and the government do not see eye to eye on whether the proclamation should be recognized at all.
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This is the same point I made yesterday. Recognitions are worthless without establishing diplomatic relations so we can narrow down true recognitions of "Kosova" to about 10 I'd say. Pretty appalling if you ask me and a waste of effort.

Pristina has spent millions to have a few countries and islands say a few worthless words regarding recognition and the province is still as backwards as ever but in the mean time Russia is spending millions in South Ossetia and the region is booming.

Ha! Hahahaha!
That was a great way to start my day! I can't wait for the K-Albanians camp to react to this one. Maybe they should take a cue and advertise internationally accordingly: "Come one,come all! Visit Kosovo...the beacon of humanity, the Eden of Europe... Free GPS and Map available to customers!"

I think it is silly that they will not send post to Kosovo, because I would expect post to reach Wales, without the UK on the address or to Vojvodina without Serbia written on the address or to Texas with the US written on the address etc. This is the sign of a poor postal service in my opinion. Why should a postal service get involved with politics? They should help their customers by trying their very best to send mail to the correct address regardless of politics.

Before Kosovo declared independence it was possible to send letters to Kosovo without Serbia/ SiM/ Yugoslavia/ UNMIK on the address. Countries which don't recognise Kosovo will send mail to Kosovo, not because they recognise Kosovo but because it's only common sense and they are being a helpful postal service.

Dear Marinel,

It will take time and hard work to put Kosova in the map,but we are in the right direction!
If you had bad experience in Kosova or with Kosovan Albanians,I do apologise,but you can't generalise this and giving us all so many "compliments"!
I wish Serbia all the best in the future and I wish that they would leave us alone,they had a chance for many decades to prove that they want to live together with us,they blew it and now we can go separate ways!!!
No hard feelings!
The jibes and jokes about Kosova will continue in the future as something more serious can't be done!
Gezuar and Ziveli!!!
As for Poland,since 2004 when they joined th EU,20% of population left the country for a better life,this maybe answers many things about Poland!!!

Well, this laughable news nicely illustrates were Kosovo stands at the moment on the International scene: somewhere behind Coco Islands!

BTW, sorry for my ignorance, but where this divine group of islands actually geographically stand?

This is the same point I made yesterday. Recognitions are worthless without establishing diplomatic relations so we can narrow down true recognitions of "Kosova" to about 10 I'd say. Pretty appalling if you ask me and a waste of effort.

Correction Zoran,
Not many countries have diplomatic relations with every single country in in this planet. Only those that can afford and for its own interests. Can you claim that Serbia has diplomatic mission in every single country ? I know they don't, so convince me otherwise.


Pristina has spent millions to have a few countries and islands say a few worthless words regarding recognition and the province is still as backwards as ever but in the mean time Russia is spending millions in South Ossetia and the region is booming.
(Zoran, 10 August 2009 13:29)

I am sure russia can afford to build homes and feeed population 30-40 thousand. what is the big deal, or maybe you thought that South Osetai has a population of 2-3 milion, right.

It's good to see there are still politicians with courage and integrity. I applaud you, President Lech, for standing up for your principles and beliefs. Kosovo, Poland, I wonder what that place is like?

Wow! Kosovo is not in Russia?

Well, the Poles soon figured out that they made a mistake when they elected "the Good Soldier Švejk" for prime minister and his carbon copy, the current president.

Thank god, the Poles torpedoed the first one from office. I hope they do the same to the second when the time comes.

After that the government ought to take care of those postal workers who've decided that they're authorized to make political decisions on their country's behalf.

The way the Polish Post behaves reflects how all decent people feel about Kosovo 'state':
Kosovo is some scary territory, atrocious place, county somewhere faraway behind God's back, a shameful nightmare swiped under the carpet and it should remain there, for a long long time out of sight of all decent world.

Polish post has Kosovo "somewhere in Russia"

Good for them. Is the earth still flat?

'in russia'..

kosovo is in serbia, and russia and serbia well you know.. :) so they got it right really.
hey this is a great article. see when they say they also tried to send it to this place kosovo in poland? Because kosovo is a slavic word. It's in slavic toponims wherever slavs may be. But not albanians.
Btw my gratitude to polish president for his common sense and common decency.

Because kosovo is a slavic word. It's in slavic toponims wherever slavs may be.
(smile, 10 August 2009 16:26)

"Кос" is more archaic and more typical for south of Russia. In Southern Ural, Kazakhstan or along Southern Volga the blackbird is called "Кос", but in the north it is called "Дрозд".

The rest is trivial since "поле" is of neutral gender and hence it will invoke the "ово" ending instead of "ова" or "ов".

Interesting parallel is "кулик". From certain point of view, "Косово поле" is just the historic opposite of "Куликово поле", but both are birds.

Claiming, "Kosova" is an Albanian word is as absurd as make "Kulikova" and claim, it's a Mongolian word.

I wonder where the Polish post sevice think they did send the peace troops,Russia? they got a point there.

Ataman,Smile,please don't fight over the name whatever it means,it will soon be changed in the original one anyway.

It takes very little to amuse some.
Reminds me of a few years back that I was flying into Kosovo, and it was still listed as part of Serbia. I missed my flight because the airline employee kept insisting she could not let me on the plane without a visa for "Siberia".

Good to see that average poles have not become politicly correct and have not been infected by brainwashing of mainstream "polish"(most of employees are not native poles)media.Fortunately 90 percent of population do not support the independence of this fake state.Once a truly patriotic goverment is elected that dishonest recognition of fake state will be withdrawn.Despite the fact that I am not a suporter Of Lech"the duck"Kaczynski"it is worth mentioning that guy is very pro-american and anti -russian yet a good example that these facts do not exclude that someone can be pro-serb at the same time.Anyway does anyone know this little bird http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kos I think polish is much more similar to serb than albanian.The word kosova sounds so stupid.

Ataman, first it's.. you make me work too hard :) here, cyrilic keyboard.. it's 'поље', not 'поле'. look at this thing of pure beauty this serbian letter Љ. look and you'll see russian (and also our serbian) Л and russian Ь all merged in one. and its pronounced like that.
Next. so if kos is a borat-word :) not strictly slavic if i understood well? what's kosovo doing in poland? kos does means blackbird in my lingo, but imho the name could also come from something else, and by the way is drozd the same as blackbird in russian? Becuase we also have word 'drozd' in serbian but i think it means like, a family of various birds including blackbirds.
Anyway i have revolutionary thoughts :) 'kos' could also be from the verb 'kositi' in serbian, in english it's to mow or to harvest. Which makes sense since its a field and also kosovo has plenty planes where people grew crops and whatnot. metohija we know is monastery land that's how it got its name from our churches and monasteries.
Either way kosovo is ours in word and DEEDS.
:)

Thats because everyone realizes that Kosovo is Serbia regardless of the puppet theatre is going on in Pristina.

or maybe you thought that South Osetai has a population of 2-3 milion, right.
(Kosova-USA, 10 August 2009 17:41)
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Looks like someone bit off more than they can chew but it aint Russia.

my flight because the airline employee kept insisting she could not let me on the plane without a visa for "Siberia".
(pss, 10 August 2009 21:25)

Right on, that's exactly where Kosova stands today....

Well, the Poles soon figured out that they made a mistake when they elected "the Good Soldier Švejk" for prime minister and his carbon copy, the current president.
(Ment, 10 August 2009 18:26)

The stance towards Kosovo independence is just a political stance.
Dshorsh Dubyah Bush is pro-independence and in eyes of any self-respecting Albanian it should not make him any less criminal as he is, plus Cheney, of course.

As for Lech Kaczyñski or Kim Jong Il (just two samples) - they are anti-independence. That does add little on my side to improve their image even if they are IMO right on that.

Piotr,

Kosovareport(newkosovareport) is much less reliable source even than polish media.If I want to have a good laugh I read them.Often childish albanian comments on this forum hint at the source of information.I do not know other albanian media organs but cannot be reliable either if they write about 20 % poles leaving their country.

The Polish president has publicly stated that he would veto any effort by the government to open an embassy in Priština or send an ambassador to Kosovo.

Who need Poland anyway when we got Marshall Island, Guinea Bissau and the Maldives?

svojgazda

I have driven past this village in Poland (it is called Kosowo). My wife comes form the Kujawsko-Pomorskie Voivodship from a town called Œwiecie (nad Wis³¹), which is about 50-60 kilometers from this village.

It is no surprize that the Polish postal workers confused them, since probably both have the same GDP as each other ;)

louie

20% of the Polish population, you say? That would mean that over 7.5 million Poles have left Poland to go work in other countries since we joined the EU and shows that you should probably do research.

Anyway, large numbers of Poles are coming back now, since our economy is more favourable than that of the US, as per these articles:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3378877.ece

http://www.theglobalist.co.uk/world/europe/2008/05/the-exit-poles/

Now, with only 5.5 million Albanians out of 9 million actually living in Albanian countries, that means about 40% have moved elsewhere to search for a better life, which means you should probably not be in the position to criticize Poland.

szemi

I know why you think that, but I only think the Kaczory think that way just to be against the ideas of Tusk.

http://kosovareport.blogspot.com/2006/11/poland-backs-free-and-independent.html

Unless maybe he really changed his mind about it.

szemi

You are right, I didn't take into account it might be Albanian propaganda.

This situation is becouse polish government accepted Kosovo's Unilateral Declaration of Independence against international law and against opinion of majority of polish citizens and polish president. Polish FM Radoslaw Sikorski only few months before Kosovo's UDI spoke in polish parlament against Kosovo independence, but in February 2008 he support UDI!! Why?? Maybe any American pressure?? This declaration of polish government was only political declaration because pressure from USA, UK, Germany and France who supported Kosovo independence, but polish politicians still are deeply divided with Kosovo's casus.

Ataman, first it's.. you make me work too hard :) here, cyrilic keyboard.. it's 'поље', not 'поле'.
(smile, 10 August 2009 20:20)

I did not write in Serbian. ;-)
For us, the non-softened "е" is written as "э". That's the fine difference...

In other words:

Serbian (non-existing) "поле" would be written "полэ" in Russian which is non-existing, too.
But "поље" is written in Russian as "поле" since "е" auto-magically softens the "л" for us.

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Next. so if kos is a borat-word :)
(smile, 10 August 2009 20:20)

It's not, it's Slavic purely. Just not used in the Northern Russia or the literature language. As for Kazakhstan - it is justified to regard it largely just to be Southern Russia. Like Belarus or Ukraina... just pick up a random number there and call it. With a good probability no one will even understand Kazakh, Belarussian or Ukrianian on the other end.

The Kazakh birth rates are much higher, so ultimately it is changing.

Reminds me of a few years back that I was flying into Kosovo, and it was still listed as part of Serbia. I missed my flight because the airline employee kept insisting she could not let me on the plane without a visa for "Siberia".

(pss, 10 August 2009 21:25)

Are you serious?

Because there is ONLY ONE again ONLY ONE country on Planet Earth where airline employees are that smart (i.e. with negative IQ level). No need to guess, we all know, what country it is.

But it has no (regular) flights to Kosovo and some flights which do exist are manned by people who know more than average citizen of that country about Europe.

See more here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqi0DwNLJdM