K. Serb councilors push for agreement

"with terrorising serbs who are in 10-km ghettos as it is fearing for their lives behind barbed wire."smile

Hello smile, could you turn me to the relavant barb wire fences and such iformation, so i can get cultured, please?

I just noticed you are deviating from the fact that if Serbia has US humVees for its police force, the police are Americans.
The resources that are in Kosovo stimulated Yugos wish to build infrustucture to take advantege for itself, and not for Kosovo, let alone the majority Albanians.

Yugo is a broken myth, Serbia was never Yugo and will never be. So in that aspect Kosovo does not go at all with Serbia. If montenegro "brothers" want to stay as far away from you as they can, can you blame the Kosovars?

Smile,

You have wrong information about that, actually Serbia has stolen a lot from Kosova, Kosova produced a lot of power for Serbia as well, so Serbia was stealing from Kosova, so how could you call Kosova Albanians thieves...NO MORE FREE PIZZA, you got to pay, if you want to have it.

"Protests were organized several times regarding the electricity problems, but KEK did not turn on the power, stating that the company demands that electricity bills must be paid regularly."

What's the rush? Pay the bills regularly and turn over the station or bake. Make up your mind and keep it that way, not pay one month and stop doing it.

P.S. Any decentralization will happen ONLY after everything in under Prishtina control, in a few months. A coincidence that serbia also hears the final word in visas? Nope.

Don't you think never paying power???

That won't happen anywhere in the world!!!

Otherwise this is how Serbian government is helping "human rights", protecting "rule of law" etc.

actually the entire electricity network in kosovo and every station sub-station and wire belongs to serbia. we let albanians use it without paying. it's scandalous and obscene that they repay it with terrorising serbs who are in 10-km ghettos as it is fearing for their lives behind barbed wire. how can this happen in europe in this day and age is just mind boggling.

K-albanians are shooting themselves in both left feet. Cutting off supply to essential services in minority areas will hardly go down well at the ICJ when it comes to their 'human-rights credentials & all they are really doing is teaching those minority areas to be more self-sufficient.

Dance of independence is looking more ungainly by the day.

'all they are really doing is teaching those minority areas to be more self-sufficient. '

In what way? Not in the provision of electricity - a couple of (a few?) weeks ago, before this latest village agreed (see Serbian news page) KEK was reporting that it was collecting 95% of what it was owed. Strpce will only increase that figure. It's really not fair for the Serbian government and patriotic Serbs throughout the world to call on these people to live without electricity (no fans even, in 100+deg F weather?) and then not to back them up by taking some kind of government action. Refusing to accept Schengen visas, for example, delivering supplies of generators and fuel to run them. Otherwise it just looks a lot like bluster.

Štrpce must back institutions of Serbian state.

Amer:
If they've been without supply for a month, then they have in some measure learned to adapt to the circumstances. And by doing so they are reducing their dependency on the 'central authority' in pristina for this particular basic service. Is a no-brainer.

Statistics provided by KEK on the success of their own 'policies' are suspect. This goes for any company anywhere, let alone in Kosovo.

I agree that 'belgrade' is not doing anywhere near enough to help the isolated enclaves but with the caveat that 'pristina' would almost certainly attempt to 'block' any large scale 'assistance' - as it did not so long ago with the medical shipments to the serb hospitals there.

I for one have never called on these people to 'live without electricity', & regard the actions of this utility company as deplorable. Am merely highlighting the obvious effects blocking supply will have, which once again are:

ICJ will be aware that whole communities are being denied supply leading to preventable deaths from things like heatstroke & the reduced access to adequate medical services that would not have occurred otherwise.

Which cannot but undermine any claim 'pristina' makes in relation to the treatment of minorities in Kosovo.

Serbs & others in these regions will & are learning to live with the situation - weakening still further 'pristina's hold on them & their mandate over them.

All round, a pretty dumb thing to do.. like shooting yourself in the foot one might say.

"actually the entire electricity network in kosovo and every station sub-station and wire belongs to serbia. "

Leaving aside: "Trepca radi, Beograd se gradi" Serbia has destroyed much more than YUGOSLAVIA (read Croatia and Slovenia) built in Kosova. You are in a deficit

'Serbs & others in these regions will & are learning to live with the situation '

Yes. by signing agreements with KEK.

smile comment #3.How could this happen in Europe today?
Could it be because there are NO barbed wire ghettos. There is enough international personnel throughout the country there is no one you can fool with this propaganda.
#2 Another "there is no sacrifice too great for the cause as long it is not me doing it, comment.
#9, Sounds like you have come around to the way of thinking that quality of life is a factor the ICJ should take into account in rendering its opinion.

Amer:
> Yes. by signing agreements with KEK.

If the agreements are on terms they find acceptable, then fine.

Is their choice.

But don't for a minute think this fiasco is not hurting the reputation of the so-called 'republic of Kosovo'.

In a democratic world, what you pay is what you get. I bet you anything that if you don't pay electricity bill in Serbia, your electricity will get disconnected just like anywhere else in the world.

Yes. by signing agreements with KEK.
(Amer, 27 July 2009 21:29)
No - rather by connecting to EPS power lines or build their own power plants.

"In a democratic world, what you pay is what you get. I bet you anything that if you don't pay electricity bill in Serbia, your electricity will get disconnected just like anywhere else in the world.
(kosovaman, 28 July 2009 02:56) "

Electricity suppliers in the democratic world don't disconnect your power if your neighbours don't pay their bills & you pay yours.

And they never deliberately disconnect the power to essential services like hospitals.

Electricity suppliers in the democratic world don't disconnect your power if your neighbours don't pay their bills & you pay yours.

And they never deliberately disconnect the power to essential services like hospitals.
(peter, sydney, 28 July 2009 16:02)

That is correct, however, if the whole town does not pay, then the Electricity corporation has two choices
1. To cut off the electricity to the town
2. To file for a bankruptcy
I don't think that this is a political issue and should not be treated as such.

'No - rather by connecting to EPS power lines or build their own power plants.'

Have they done either? Have they even seriously discussed doing either? If so, B92 is holding back on a good story, because all I've noticed is one village after another signing the KEK agreement.

kosovaman:
Trouble reading?

In a 'truly democratic society', an electricity supplier would not be allowed to cut off power to a hospital full stop

In a really 'non-political' situation, an electricity supplier would find out precisely why the customers in a region refused to pay their bills & redress the issue as a matter of urgency, not continue to bring up new 'terms' to reconnect supply.

And last I heard, KEK's K-albanian customer base outnumbered serbs 20 to 1 so I hardly think they're in danger of going bankrupt - embezzlement not withstanding.

And is beside the point anyway. Is only a company. The people they are supposed to serve come first.

At least that is the way electricity suppliers are licensed to operate in a 'truly democratic society'.

But obviously not in Kosovo.

actually the entire electricity network in kosovo and every station sub-station and wire belongs to serbia. we let albanians use it without paying. it's scandalous and obscene that they repay it with terrorising serbs who are in 10-km ghettos as it is fearing for their lives behind barbed wire. how can this happen in europe in this day and age is just mind boggling.

Štrpce must back institutions of Serbian state.

Smile,

You have wrong information about that, actually Serbia has stolen a lot from Kosova, Kosova produced a lot of power for Serbia as well, so Serbia was stealing from Kosova, so how could you call Kosova Albanians thieves...NO MORE FREE PIZZA, you got to pay, if you want to have it.

K-albanians are shooting themselves in both left feet. Cutting off supply to essential services in minority areas will hardly go down well at the ICJ when it comes to their 'human-rights credentials & all they are really doing is teaching those minority areas to be more self-sufficient.

Dance of independence is looking more ungainly by the day.

"Protests were organized several times regarding the electricity problems, but KEK did not turn on the power, stating that the company demands that electricity bills must be paid regularly."

What's the rush? Pay the bills regularly and turn over the station or bake. Make up your mind and keep it that way, not pay one month and stop doing it.

P.S. Any decentralization will happen ONLY after everything in under Prishtina control, in a few months. A coincidence that serbia also hears the final word in visas? Nope.

"with terrorising serbs who are in 10-km ghettos as it is fearing for their lives behind barbed wire."smile

Hello smile, could you turn me to the relavant barb wire fences and such iformation, so i can get cultured, please?

I just noticed you are deviating from the fact that if Serbia has US humVees for its police force, the police are Americans.
The resources that are in Kosovo stimulated Yugos wish to build infrustucture to take advantege for itself, and not for Kosovo, let alone the majority Albanians.

Yugo is a broken myth, Serbia was never Yugo and will never be. So in that aspect Kosovo does not go at all with Serbia. If montenegro "brothers" want to stay as far away from you as they can, can you blame the Kosovars?

Don't you think never paying power???

That won't happen anywhere in the world!!!

Otherwise this is how Serbian government is helping "human rights", protecting "rule of law" etc.

Yes. by signing agreements with KEK.
(Amer, 27 July 2009 21:29)
No - rather by connecting to EPS power lines or build their own power plants.

'all they are really doing is teaching those minority areas to be more self-sufficient. '

In what way? Not in the provision of electricity - a couple of (a few?) weeks ago, before this latest village agreed (see Serbian news page) KEK was reporting that it was collecting 95% of what it was owed. Strpce will only increase that figure. It's really not fair for the Serbian government and patriotic Serbs throughout the world to call on these people to live without electricity (no fans even, in 100+deg F weather?) and then not to back them up by taking some kind of government action. Refusing to accept Schengen visas, for example, delivering supplies of generators and fuel to run them. Otherwise it just looks a lot like bluster.

Amer:
If they've been without supply for a month, then they have in some measure learned to adapt to the circumstances. And by doing so they are reducing their dependency on the 'central authority' in pristina for this particular basic service. Is a no-brainer.

Statistics provided by KEK on the success of their own 'policies' are suspect. This goes for any company anywhere, let alone in Kosovo.

I agree that 'belgrade' is not doing anywhere near enough to help the isolated enclaves but with the caveat that 'pristina' would almost certainly attempt to 'block' any large scale 'assistance' - as it did not so long ago with the medical shipments to the serb hospitals there.

I for one have never called on these people to 'live without electricity', & regard the actions of this utility company as deplorable. Am merely highlighting the obvious effects blocking supply will have, which once again are:

ICJ will be aware that whole communities are being denied supply leading to preventable deaths from things like heatstroke & the reduced access to adequate medical services that would not have occurred otherwise.

Which cannot but undermine any claim 'pristina' makes in relation to the treatment of minorities in Kosovo.

Serbs & others in these regions will & are learning to live with the situation - weakening still further 'pristina's hold on them & their mandate over them.

All round, a pretty dumb thing to do.. like shooting yourself in the foot one might say.

"actually the entire electricity network in kosovo and every station sub-station and wire belongs to serbia. "

Leaving aside: "Trepca radi, Beograd se gradi" Serbia has destroyed much more than YUGOSLAVIA (read Croatia and Slovenia) built in Kosova. You are in a deficit

Electricity suppliers in the democratic world don't disconnect your power if your neighbours don't pay their bills & you pay yours.

And they never deliberately disconnect the power to essential services like hospitals.
(peter, sydney, 28 July 2009 16:02)

That is correct, however, if the whole town does not pay, then the Electricity corporation has two choices
1. To cut off the electricity to the town
2. To file for a bankruptcy
I don't think that this is a political issue and should not be treated as such.

In a democratic world, what you pay is what you get. I bet you anything that if you don't pay electricity bill in Serbia, your electricity will get disconnected just like anywhere else in the world.

'Serbs & others in these regions will & are learning to live with the situation '

Yes. by signing agreements with KEK.

kosovaman:
Trouble reading?

In a 'truly democratic society', an electricity supplier would not be allowed to cut off power to a hospital full stop

In a really 'non-political' situation, an electricity supplier would find out precisely why the customers in a region refused to pay their bills & redress the issue as a matter of urgency, not continue to bring up new 'terms' to reconnect supply.

And last I heard, KEK's K-albanian customer base outnumbered serbs 20 to 1 so I hardly think they're in danger of going bankrupt - embezzlement not withstanding.

And is beside the point anyway. Is only a company. The people they are supposed to serve come first.

At least that is the way electricity suppliers are licensed to operate in a 'truly democratic society'.

But obviously not in Kosovo.

"In a democratic world, what you pay is what you get. I bet you anything that if you don't pay electricity bill in Serbia, your electricity will get disconnected just like anywhere else in the world.
(kosovaman, 28 July 2009 02:56) "

Electricity suppliers in the democratic world don't disconnect your power if your neighbours don't pay their bills & you pay yours.

And they never deliberately disconnect the power to essential services like hospitals.

smile comment #3.How could this happen in Europe today?
Could it be because there are NO barbed wire ghettos. There is enough international personnel throughout the country there is no one you can fool with this propaganda.
#2 Another "there is no sacrifice too great for the cause as long it is not me doing it, comment.
#9, Sounds like you have come around to the way of thinking that quality of life is a factor the ICJ should take into account in rendering its opinion.

Amer:
> Yes. by signing agreements with KEK.

If the agreements are on terms they find acceptable, then fine.

Is their choice.

But don't for a minute think this fiasco is not hurting the reputation of the so-called 'republic of Kosovo'.

'No - rather by connecting to EPS power lines or build their own power plants.'

Have they done either? Have they even seriously discussed doing either? If so, B92 is holding back on a good story, because all I've noticed is one village after another signing the KEK agreement.