Jeremić: Trade deal could be unblocked

" The minister believes that Priština "will be cornered" and for the first time motivated to seek a compromise concerning the province's status. "

Is he really Serbia's brightest mind? Jeremic, Albanians survived 96 brutal years under Serbia and 50 in Albania under Stalinism. Surviving with US, UK, French, German, Japanese etc help is a piece of cake. You on the other hand gave up almost everything to get to the visa white list. Tell B92 what Serbia must before getting the deal? Imagine what you will do to be an EU member.

--- Jeremić told Belgr"ade daily Danas in an interview that he hoped a consensus would emerge in the country soon over the issue of EU, "as was done over Kosovo"."

True, Serbs have always been united over what to do with the Albanians, Croats, Hungarians, Bosniaks etc.

''The minister believes that Priština "will be cornered" and for the first time motivated to seek a compromise concerning the province's status. ''


This must be a big joke. That, or he is lying a big lye to his people. And that, right in their face like they were uneducated people.


Reamamber Jeremic that Kosovo will never disscus any status even if we diden't have any backing from the western world. But now we got US on our side and you belive we are going to be cornered ? That is so silly and I dont belive that even you belive in such a thing. You had 100 years to disscus status but you diden't. Now it is to late. Kosovo is allready independent recognized by the most powerful countrys in the world and we are not worried. We got more than we expected and even if we never get UN-membership we are happy with what we got. Being on the same border as Serbia has never been an option or an solution. That is nothing that went through our head and never will.

Smulan.

I think we should negotiate the best solution for K-serbs to inegrate in the Kosovo system. The status of Kosovo is clear since 1,5 years back. We know that Serbia wants more than autonomy and less independence but we cannot accept that offer. One reason is because we in Kosovo are mostly albanian and we have a different cultural and religous hertige. The second reason is because the state of Serbia has done to much harm to our people that we have no belive in Serbia now or never. The serb people have made it clear how they see albanians and how much they care for them. The third reason is because we albanians and Kosovo has gone to far to turn back to the past. Negotiation is in the past and we have gained to much to give it up. You think we are giving up our state with 62 recognition, institutions and flag for autonomy ?

We are lucky that we got you on the news jeremic. You make my day when I'm depressed. I almost want to say I love you when you make me laugh so hard.Prishtina will be cornered.....LOL


Thank you very much jeremic.... I mean it...

@@@ by Demi

"...One reason is because we in Kosovo are mostly albanian and we have a different cultural and religous hertige. The second reason is because the state of Serbia has done to much harm to our people that we have no belive in Serbia now or never. The serb people have made it clear how they see albanians and how much they care for them..."


Answer: Following the exactly same reasons, concerning the Serbs on Kosovo, the only option and future for Kosovo is the partition of the territory by the ethnical lines.

As it looks like at the moment, neither interim trade agreement neither SAA will be unblocked at any realistic time soon following the hypocritical stance of Dutch Government and their FM Verhagen.

In contrary, and just this week, their Foreign Ministry and Verhagen unlashed another wave of their practiced “BLACKMAIL” diplomacy and new victim is Iceland.
The issue is connected with the World Financial Crisis and recent Iceland bankruptcy. Tens of thousands of Dutch following their “do it Dutch way” logic opened the savings accounts in the Icelandic bank “Icesave” because this Bank was offering “small single percent” higher interest rate then the Dutch Banks back home. Once when Iceland and Icesave went bankrupt mentioned Dutch account holders, simply said, lost their money. Sum is in the range of few billions Euros. In the follow up, Dutch Government in the connection with British Government (which had also British account holders in the same position) made a “deal” with Icelandic Government that Iceland will partially compensate Dutch savers. Deal was a “diplomatic bully” because no Government can not exercise the pressure on the another Goveremnt to compensate the money of the bankrupt Private Bank as per fact that involved Dutch savers were just investing their money with the simple principle of Capitalism : “you may win or you may lose””. No “guaranty plan” was predicted in the case of Country bankruptcy. Initially, last Icelandic Government went with this deal, but just now and after recent Icelandic election new Government and Parliament majority refused to comply with this “bully deal”.

And now and again Dutch Government and their Foreign Ministry and FM Verhagen are with the speed of light using their BLACKMAIL diplomacy. Just one day after the “new position” on the issue by the Icelandic Government Verhagen’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted on their internet page main article which is named: Iceland MUST refund Icesave losses.
Should I for the beginning notice that the use of the word MUST, in the Official Ministry Article, is not exactly the diplomatic way to deal with the friendly neighbouring country.
Article elaborates the issue from the Dutch Foreign Ministry point of view, after that it cleverly and sneaky mentions that Iceland just applied for EU membership with brief explanation and then follows the “blackmail policy in action” by Dutch Foreign Ministry stating that Iceland will be allowed to join EU only when they pay the money, expected by Dutch Government, to the relevant Dutch account holders. Here I would like to notice that British Government which is faced with the same issue with Iceland did not follow “blackmail piece of Dutch diplomacy”.

This fresh and new example clearly illustrate us the way of dealing by Dutch diplomacy under Verhagen ,so equally our diplomatic acts should be corresponding.
Jeremic states that very much most of diplomatic options are already used in the dealing with Dutch and that there is not much left to try. Diplomacy should be inventive, intuitive and should dare to act.
Options are still there: to constantly appeal on other EU Governments to do their piece of pressure on Dutch and on that way bring them in constant uncomfortable and isolated position. As well trying the same via US, following the fact that Dutch Government contact with US is on the level of obeyable.
If not, Serbian Government should decide to temporarily seize or decline diplomatic contacts with The Netherlands till the SAA is unblocked. Nothing to lose, should be presented as our principle act against Dutch undiplomatic practices which are blocking Serbia’s prosperity, it exercises the pressure and very much points on our “burning issue” to the Dutch public, their Government and equally important rest of the World.
Additionally just to mention, Dutch public hardly ever have a chance to hear any news from Serbia and our side of the story (all suspects but 2 delivered and so on...). Once a while, every few weeks, their news do come out with a sort of stereotype news about Karadzic and about Serbia’s not “full cooperation” with Hague in connection with Brammertz.

Temporary seize of diplomatic contact, because of hypocrite and unilateral decision by Dutch Government, may raise aware of Dutch public for the issue and equally important from the rest of the World and the World’s diplomatic dealings and it may ultimately bring, for Serbia, acceptable result.
If our diplomacy does not act this way our case will be forgotten and Serbia will stay in EU freeze till Mladic is dead and buried.

So Jeremic, act and act now.

(dean van der serbia,



And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.

And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.
(Demi, 25 July 2009 19:26)

How can any Albanian claim that partition is unacceptable when 95% of the north is, has been, and will be Serbian? To me, it seems they do not really have a say in it...

The fact that the Albanian irridentists on this site are attacking Vuk Jeremic which such zeal and abuse, indicates that he is doing such a god job.

Keep up the good work Vuk ;)

Thumbs up from me.

And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.
(Demi, 25 July 2009 19:26)

Are for real? Kosovo is YOUR motherland but not Serbs'?
Your motherland is Albania because you refer to yourself as Albanians and speak Albanian. Where were you when Serbs settled in Kosovo? Somewhere in small numers because you certainly were not represented in Kosovo in any significant numbers until the turn of the century. Serbs have proof of ownership of Kosovo in the way of centuries old buildings. Where is the proof that you were there in any significant numbers at that time?

Your migration to Kosovo happened around 1900s and onwards, espcially after WW2.

So, if Kosovo is anyones homeland it is the Serbs' homeland where you were welcomed by the Serbs in the spirit of humanity when you were leaving Albania for a better life. Respect the people who took you in and don't claim something which is not yours just because you managed to become the majority through various means.

Some people are making this issue way more complicated then it has to be. All that Serbia has to do is to arrest the war criminal Ratko Mladic who has been living in Serbia for over a decade. That is all. Arrest him and everything else will proceed easily afterwards. The only thing that is preventing Serbia from strengthening its relationship with the EU is that it is sheltering the world's most wanted war criminal.

give the guy a break, he is at lest trying to do somthing good for Serbia.

I do not agree with all the desitions he makes, but he understands that even if you are right you must be right acording to the "right" people. He is fighting a political batle and the oponents are not fighting fare.

Keep up the nice work Vuk

Kosovo issue makes us feel sick in the West. We are sick of this nonsense.

There is an Albanian state: Albania. There is a Serbian state: Serbia.

If you happen to live in the othetr state: learn to live together!

Get over it! And work on your society and economy instead!

Welcome to EU!

The minister believes that Priština "will be cornered" and for the first time motivated to seek a compromise concerning the province's status.

So if ICJ says that independence is illegal Pristina will be cornered but if ICJ says it is legal Belgrade will just ignore it? And what is the logic behind that?Jeremic gives serbs what they want to hear. Serbs, even if those countries that have recognized retrieve their recognitions we Albanians still will not accept being ruled by Serbia. All Jeremic is doing is gaining political capital for himself.

@@@ by Demi

“...And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.
(Demi, 25 July 2009 19:26)...”

Answer: Kosovo is Serbia ? Trying to avoid saying the sentences which do not mean anything. Rather prefer argumentation.

Kosovo is not just the territory for the Serbs, but Kosovo is the place where, at this very much the same moment, hundreds of thousands of them do live under every day repression. Serbs do have the right on that land on the same level as Albanians do and following the facts of the trouble history and the fact that peaceful coexistence is not possible then clear option is partition. Albanians will shortly learn to accept this fact too.

dean van der serbia,

I psted to you some agument but of some reason B92 diden't publish them. I don't know why.


If I may, I will describe the difference from living as an albanian in Kosovo under the 80s and the 90's and as a serb after the independence of Kosovo. An simple explanation is that under the 90's repression on the albanians came from the state and stateinstitutons. We albanians are aware of the problems wich the serb minority in Kosovo are living under. But the difference is that our goverment and our institutions are doing all to integrate the serbs in the sociaty. We even got serb MP's in our goverment and many serbs on our police service.


And yes Kosovo is for everyone. Not only serbs or albanians. The people who lives there should rule over them self and not some dude in Belgrade. That i why we albanians wich are a majority have made big compromise wih the K-serbs. The flag everybody can relate to. Theflag has nothing to do with albanians or Albania. The flag is simply neutral. The main laungage in Kosovo is albanian and serbian. The serb minority (wich is not such a big minority) in Kosovo about 8-10 % have greater rights than other minoritys. With time the K.serbs will feel safer because everybody in Kosovo is tired of violence. Serbs jst have to turn their head against Prishtina insteed of Belgrade because in Prishtina they can make a difference and a better life. There is 300-700 serb policeofficers who work for the Kosovo police. How come they can live and work in Kosovo ?



Kosovo independence is not a question anymore. The question is how we can make life better for everyone. Partition is out of the question. If serbs in Kosovo in no way can live with albanians them why hould albanians in Preshevo valley live with serbs ?

@@@ by Deni

“...dean van der serbia,

....We albanians are aware of the problems wich the serb minority in Kosovo...

...Kosovo independence is not a question anymore. The question is how we can make life better for everyone. Partition is out of the question. If serbs in Kosovo in no way can live with albanians them why hould albanians in Preshevo valley live with serbs ?
(Demi, 26 July 2009 00:25)...”

Answer: Please Deni, if you want to argument something do it qualitatively and not propagandistic otherwise you are insulting our brains.

Albanians are aware of the problems of the Kosovo Serbs? That is why last week Serbian returnee was almost beaten to death and is having “the hole in his head"? That is why Serbian enclaves including the Hospitals are now, in the heat of the summer, cut off from electricity ? Should I continue?

There is more then indication long history of Kosovo Albanians not willingness to cooperate with Serbian side and the long history of violence against the Kosovo Serbs and non Albanians which resulted in Serbian deletion as a demographic group in the Province. As per your fact that Kosovo Albanians do not want to live under Belgrade control equally Kosovo Serbs don’t want to live under Pristina control.

There are no questions which are “out of question”, consequently partition of Kosovo is on the negotiating table, possibly as per Presevo valley.

@@@ by DefenderOfTruth

“...Some people are making this issue way more complicated then it has to be. All that Serbia has to do is to arrest the war criminal Ratko Mladic who has been living in Serbia for over a decade. That is all. Arrest him and everything else will proceed easily afterwards. The only thing that is preventing Serbia from strengthening its relationship with the EU is that it is sheltering the world's most wanted war criminal.
(DefenderOfTruth, 25 July 2009 18:16)...”


Answer: Following your blog name “DefenderOfTruth” will you kindly explain and argument your “truthful” claim that Serbia and Serbian Government are hiding and do know where the Mladic is ? Are there any relevant truthful facts to support your democratic claim or is it your personal democratic “truthful” improvisation ?

And let’s just use for the second a bit of “ Logic Arose” : if Serbian Government just have delivered Karadzic, what would be the logical reason to stop short of delivering Mladic if they know where he is hiding as per your “”truthful claim”. I certainly can not detect none.

dean van der serbia, 26 July 2009 13:50

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dean van der serbia
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Do you honestly believe that after the national embarrassment suffered in Srebrenica, the Dutch could care less if Serbia "suspended" diplomatic ties?

It doesn't sound like you have the slightest concept as to who has the upper hand here.

Serbia, like the rest of the Balkans, is the beggar not the chooser as far as EU is concerned...

Well, another "cut" by moderator?

You are turning up to be sooo human, or you are starting to enjoy your "powers" maybe?

Civilising the meida? Nope, people surely yes.

Kindly one more time, refuse to add the comment at any time, but do not cut it per your wishes. Tnx

Peter, so the battle is not fair ? How fair was it for albanians before the war in 98-99 and under the war it self ? I think it is more than fair because the albanians has give up on many things to have a state and a free life. And how come it isn't fair when more countrys dosen't recognize Kosovo independence ?

And why should it be fair when jeremic ,Tadic & co dosent live in Kosovo ? When our lives and freedom come into question there is nothing called fair my friend.

@@@ by Ment

"...Do you honestly believe that after the national embarrassment suffered in Srebrenica, the Dutch could care less if Serbia "suspended" diplomatic ties?

It doesn't sound like you have the slightest concept as to who has the upper hand here.

Serbia, like the rest of the Balkans, is the beggar not the chooser as far as EU is concerned...
(Ment, 27 July 2009 16:07)..."

Answer: Well this is quite indicational: in the period of short 2 weeks we had a chance to read the comments by 2 Dutch contributors (first one was "cees") which both claim that Dutch do not care less for the Serbian stance?

Please allow me to express my humble astonishment with the level of arrogance and disrespect for the fellow Nation!

This may be as well the clear indication about the nature of the Dutch blockade of Serbia: as they say they simply do not care to blockade another Nation (at the moment they are introducing the same style of diplomacy towards the Iceland too) , but they are trying to wash out their “national embarrassment” with the implementation of unilateral “blackmail sort of” diplomacy?

What about if the Dutch instead decide to finally face their “embarrassment and moral failure” in Srebrenica and do not resolve the inability of their inner politics to face this embarrassing facts by blocking the prosperity of another Nation 14 years, and to repeat 14 years, after the Srebrenica massacre.

Your concept of being “the concise of the World” may bring the “sanctions torn” and the forth oldest Nation in the World, Serbia, to the brink of demographic existence. Dutch carelessness may turn easily to another major” national embarrassment”. Does “self-called tolerant and free-minded” Dutch do believe that young generation of Serbs do have their right for the free, prosperous and dissent life? I may only hope so.

“Serbia and the rest of Balkan as beggars”? Well most of this “baggers” Nations of Balkans gave the millions of life’s for the Freedom of present Europe which is enjoyed for more than 50 years by Western Europeans, as long as Dutch waited for the people from another Continents, namely Canadians to liberate them from Nazis. That simple fact, among the million others, would certainly entitle “the bagger Nations”, as you are so “vividly” describing us, to choose to take their place in Europe.

" The minister believes that Priština "will be cornered" and for the first time motivated to seek a compromise concerning the province's status. "

Is he really Serbia's brightest mind? Jeremic, Albanians survived 96 brutal years under Serbia and 50 in Albania under Stalinism. Surviving with US, UK, French, German, Japanese etc help is a piece of cake. You on the other hand gave up almost everything to get to the visa white list. Tell B92 what Serbia must before getting the deal? Imagine what you will do to be an EU member.

--- Jeremić told Belgr"ade daily Danas in an interview that he hoped a consensus would emerge in the country soon over the issue of EU, "as was done over Kosovo"."

True, Serbs have always been united over what to do with the Albanians, Croats, Hungarians, Bosniaks etc.

As it looks like at the moment, neither interim trade agreement neither SAA will be unblocked at any realistic time soon following the hypocritical stance of Dutch Government and their FM Verhagen.

In contrary, and just this week, their Foreign Ministry and Verhagen unlashed another wave of their practiced “BLACKMAIL” diplomacy and new victim is Iceland.
The issue is connected with the World Financial Crisis and recent Iceland bankruptcy. Tens of thousands of Dutch following their “do it Dutch way” logic opened the savings accounts in the Icelandic bank “Icesave” because this Bank was offering “small single percent” higher interest rate then the Dutch Banks back home. Once when Iceland and Icesave went bankrupt mentioned Dutch account holders, simply said, lost their money. Sum is in the range of few billions Euros. In the follow up, Dutch Government in the connection with British Government (which had also British account holders in the same position) made a “deal” with Icelandic Government that Iceland will partially compensate Dutch savers. Deal was a “diplomatic bully” because no Government can not exercise the pressure on the another Goveremnt to compensate the money of the bankrupt Private Bank as per fact that involved Dutch savers were just investing their money with the simple principle of Capitalism : “you may win or you may lose””. No “guaranty plan” was predicted in the case of Country bankruptcy. Initially, last Icelandic Government went with this deal, but just now and after recent Icelandic election new Government and Parliament majority refused to comply with this “bully deal”.

And now and again Dutch Government and their Foreign Ministry and FM Verhagen are with the speed of light using their BLACKMAIL diplomacy. Just one day after the “new position” on the issue by the Icelandic Government Verhagen’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted on their internet page main article which is named: Iceland MUST refund Icesave losses.
Should I for the beginning notice that the use of the word MUST, in the Official Ministry Article, is not exactly the diplomatic way to deal with the friendly neighbouring country.
Article elaborates the issue from the Dutch Foreign Ministry point of view, after that it cleverly and sneaky mentions that Iceland just applied for EU membership with brief explanation and then follows the “blackmail policy in action” by Dutch Foreign Ministry stating that Iceland will be allowed to join EU only when they pay the money, expected by Dutch Government, to the relevant Dutch account holders. Here I would like to notice that British Government which is faced with the same issue with Iceland did not follow “blackmail piece of Dutch diplomacy”.

This fresh and new example clearly illustrate us the way of dealing by Dutch diplomacy under Verhagen ,so equally our diplomatic acts should be corresponding.
Jeremic states that very much most of diplomatic options are already used in the dealing with Dutch and that there is not much left to try. Diplomacy should be inventive, intuitive and should dare to act.
Options are still there: to constantly appeal on other EU Governments to do their piece of pressure on Dutch and on that way bring them in constant uncomfortable and isolated position. As well trying the same via US, following the fact that Dutch Government contact with US is on the level of obeyable.
If not, Serbian Government should decide to temporarily seize or decline diplomatic contacts with The Netherlands till the SAA is unblocked. Nothing to lose, should be presented as our principle act against Dutch undiplomatic practices which are blocking Serbia’s prosperity, it exercises the pressure and very much points on our “burning issue” to the Dutch public, their Government and equally important rest of the World.
Additionally just to mention, Dutch public hardly ever have a chance to hear any news from Serbia and our side of the story (all suspects but 2 delivered and so on...). Once a while, every few weeks, their news do come out with a sort of stereotype news about Karadzic and about Serbia’s not “full cooperation” with Hague in connection with Brammertz.

Temporary seize of diplomatic contact, because of hypocrite and unilateral decision by Dutch Government, may raise aware of Dutch public for the issue and equally important from the rest of the World and the World’s diplomatic dealings and it may ultimately bring, for Serbia, acceptable result.
If our diplomacy does not act this way our case will be forgotten and Serbia will stay in EU freeze till Mladic is dead and buried.

So Jeremic, act and act now.

''The minister believes that Priština "will be cornered" and for the first time motivated to seek a compromise concerning the province's status. ''


This must be a big joke. That, or he is lying a big lye to his people. And that, right in their face like they were uneducated people.


Reamamber Jeremic that Kosovo will never disscus any status even if we diden't have any backing from the western world. But now we got US on our side and you belive we are going to be cornered ? That is so silly and I dont belive that even you belive in such a thing. You had 100 years to disscus status but you diden't. Now it is to late. Kosovo is allready independent recognized by the most powerful countrys in the world and we are not worried. We got more than we expected and even if we never get UN-membership we are happy with what we got. Being on the same border as Serbia has never been an option or an solution. That is nothing that went through our head and never will.

Smulan.

I think we should negotiate the best solution for K-serbs to inegrate in the Kosovo system. The status of Kosovo is clear since 1,5 years back. We know that Serbia wants more than autonomy and less independence but we cannot accept that offer. One reason is because we in Kosovo are mostly albanian and we have a different cultural and religous hertige. The second reason is because the state of Serbia has done to much harm to our people that we have no belive in Serbia now or never. The serb people have made it clear how they see albanians and how much they care for them. The third reason is because we albanians and Kosovo has gone to far to turn back to the past. Negotiation is in the past and we have gained to much to give it up. You think we are giving up our state with 62 recognition, institutions and flag for autonomy ?

Some people are making this issue way more complicated then it has to be. All that Serbia has to do is to arrest the war criminal Ratko Mladic who has been living in Serbia for over a decade. That is all. Arrest him and everything else will proceed easily afterwards. The only thing that is preventing Serbia from strengthening its relationship with the EU is that it is sheltering the world's most wanted war criminal.

We are lucky that we got you on the news jeremic. You make my day when I'm depressed. I almost want to say I love you when you make me laugh so hard.Prishtina will be cornered.....LOL


Thank you very much jeremic.... I mean it...

(dean van der serbia,



And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.

Kosovo issue makes us feel sick in the West. We are sick of this nonsense.

There is an Albanian state: Albania. There is a Serbian state: Serbia.

If you happen to live in the othetr state: learn to live together!

Get over it! And work on your society and economy instead!

Welcome to EU!

The minister believes that Priština "will be cornered" and for the first time motivated to seek a compromise concerning the province's status.

So if ICJ says that independence is illegal Pristina will be cornered but if ICJ says it is legal Belgrade will just ignore it? And what is the logic behind that?Jeremic gives serbs what they want to hear. Serbs, even if those countries that have recognized retrieve their recognitions we Albanians still will not accept being ruled by Serbia. All Jeremic is doing is gaining political capital for himself.

@@@ by Demi

"...One reason is because we in Kosovo are mostly albanian and we have a different cultural and religous hertige. The second reason is because the state of Serbia has done to much harm to our people that we have no belive in Serbia now or never. The serb people have made it clear how they see albanians and how much they care for them..."


Answer: Following the exactly same reasons, concerning the Serbs on Kosovo, the only option and future for Kosovo is the partition of the territory by the ethnical lines.

dean van der serbia,

I psted to you some agument but of some reason B92 diden't publish them. I don't know why.


If I may, I will describe the difference from living as an albanian in Kosovo under the 80s and the 90's and as a serb after the independence of Kosovo. An simple explanation is that under the 90's repression on the albanians came from the state and stateinstitutons. We albanians are aware of the problems wich the serb minority in Kosovo are living under. But the difference is that our goverment and our institutions are doing all to integrate the serbs in the sociaty. We even got serb MP's in our goverment and many serbs on our police service.


And yes Kosovo is for everyone. Not only serbs or albanians. The people who lives there should rule over them self and not some dude in Belgrade. That i why we albanians wich are a majority have made big compromise wih the K-serbs. The flag everybody can relate to. Theflag has nothing to do with albanians or Albania. The flag is simply neutral. The main laungage in Kosovo is albanian and serbian. The serb minority (wich is not such a big minority) in Kosovo about 8-10 % have greater rights than other minoritys. With time the K.serbs will feel safer because everybody in Kosovo is tired of violence. Serbs jst have to turn their head against Prishtina insteed of Belgrade because in Prishtina they can make a difference and a better life. There is 300-700 serb policeofficers who work for the Kosovo police. How come they can live and work in Kosovo ?



Kosovo independence is not a question anymore. The question is how we can make life better for everyone. Partition is out of the question. If serbs in Kosovo in no way can live with albanians them why hould albanians in Preshevo valley live with serbs ?

dean van der serbia
....................

Do you honestly believe that after the national embarrassment suffered in Srebrenica, the Dutch could care less if Serbia "suspended" diplomatic ties?

It doesn't sound like you have the slightest concept as to who has the upper hand here.

Serbia, like the rest of the Balkans, is the beggar not the chooser as far as EU is concerned...

@@@ by DefenderOfTruth

“...Some people are making this issue way more complicated then it has to be. All that Serbia has to do is to arrest the war criminal Ratko Mladic who has been living in Serbia for over a decade. That is all. Arrest him and everything else will proceed easily afterwards. The only thing that is preventing Serbia from strengthening its relationship with the EU is that it is sheltering the world's most wanted war criminal.
(DefenderOfTruth, 25 July 2009 18:16)...”


Answer: Following your blog name “DefenderOfTruth” will you kindly explain and argument your “truthful” claim that Serbia and Serbian Government are hiding and do know where the Mladic is ? Are there any relevant truthful facts to support your democratic claim or is it your personal democratic “truthful” improvisation ?

And let’s just use for the second a bit of “ Logic Arose” : if Serbian Government just have delivered Karadzic, what would be the logical reason to stop short of delivering Mladic if they know where he is hiding as per your “”truthful claim”. I certainly can not detect none.

@@@ by Demi

“...And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.
(Demi, 25 July 2009 19:26)...”

Answer: Kosovo is Serbia ? Trying to avoid saying the sentences which do not mean anything. Rather prefer argumentation.

Kosovo is not just the territory for the Serbs, but Kosovo is the place where, at this very much the same moment, hundreds of thousands of them do live under every day repression. Serbs do have the right on that land on the same level as Albanians do and following the facts of the trouble history and the fact that peaceful coexistence is not possible then clear option is partition. Albanians will shortly learn to accept this fact too.

Peter, so the battle is not fair ? How fair was it for albanians before the war in 98-99 and under the war it self ? I think it is more than fair because the albanians has give up on many things to have a state and a free life. And how come it isn't fair when more countrys dosen't recognize Kosovo independence ?

And why should it be fair when jeremic ,Tadic & co dosent live in Kosovo ? When our lives and freedom come into question there is nothing called fair my friend.

@@@ by Deni

“...dean van der serbia,

....We albanians are aware of the problems wich the serb minority in Kosovo...

...Kosovo independence is not a question anymore. The question is how we can make life better for everyone. Partition is out of the question. If serbs in Kosovo in no way can live with albanians them why hould albanians in Preshevo valley live with serbs ?
(Demi, 26 July 2009 00:25)...”

Answer: Please Deni, if you want to argument something do it qualitatively and not propagandistic otherwise you are insulting our brains.

Albanians are aware of the problems of the Kosovo Serbs? That is why last week Serbian returnee was almost beaten to death and is having “the hole in his head"? That is why Serbian enclaves including the Hospitals are now, in the heat of the summer, cut off from electricity ? Should I continue?

There is more then indication long history of Kosovo Albanians not willingness to cooperate with Serbian side and the long history of violence against the Kosovo Serbs and non Albanians which resulted in Serbian deletion as a demographic group in the Province. As per your fact that Kosovo Albanians do not want to live under Belgrade control equally Kosovo Serbs don’t want to live under Pristina control.

There are no questions which are “out of question”, consequently partition of Kosovo is on the negotiating table, possibly as per Presevo valley.

And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.
(Demi, 25 July 2009 19:26)

Are for real? Kosovo is YOUR motherland but not Serbs'?
Your motherland is Albania because you refer to yourself as Albanians and speak Albanian. Where were you when Serbs settled in Kosovo? Somewhere in small numers because you certainly were not represented in Kosovo in any significant numbers until the turn of the century. Serbs have proof of ownership of Kosovo in the way of centuries old buildings. Where is the proof that you were there in any significant numbers at that time?

Your migration to Kosovo happened around 1900s and onwards, espcially after WW2.

So, if Kosovo is anyones homeland it is the Serbs' homeland where you were welcomed by the Serbs in the spirit of humanity when you were leaving Albania for a better life. Respect the people who took you in and don't claim something which is not yours just because you managed to become the majority through various means.

give the guy a break, he is at lest trying to do somthing good for Serbia.

I do not agree with all the desitions he makes, but he understands that even if you are right you must be right acording to the "right" people. He is fighting a political batle and the oponents are not fighting fare.

Keep up the nice work Vuk

Well, another "cut" by moderator?

You are turning up to be sooo human, or you are starting to enjoy your "powers" maybe?

Civilising the meida? Nope, people surely yes.

Kindly one more time, refuse to add the comment at any time, but do not cut it per your wishes. Tnx

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And why some time you write Kosovo is Serbia and some time you want to divide it ? For you Kosovo is just a territory and it doent matter how much you get. Only you get somthing. For us Kosovo is our motherland and nothing less than todays Kosovo would be acceptable.
(Demi, 25 July 2009 19:26)

How can any Albanian claim that partition is unacceptable when 95% of the north is, has been, and will be Serbian? To me, it seems they do not really have a say in it...

The fact that the Albanian irridentists on this site are attacking Vuk Jeremic which such zeal and abuse, indicates that he is doing such a god job.

Keep up the good work Vuk ;)

Thumbs up from me.

@@@ by Ment

"...Do you honestly believe that after the national embarrassment suffered in Srebrenica, the Dutch could care less if Serbia "suspended" diplomatic ties?

It doesn't sound like you have the slightest concept as to who has the upper hand here.

Serbia, like the rest of the Balkans, is the beggar not the chooser as far as EU is concerned...
(Ment, 27 July 2009 16:07)..."

Answer: Well this is quite indicational: in the period of short 2 weeks we had a chance to read the comments by 2 Dutch contributors (first one was "cees") which both claim that Dutch do not care less for the Serbian stance?

Please allow me to express my humble astonishment with the level of arrogance and disrespect for the fellow Nation!

This may be as well the clear indication about the nature of the Dutch blockade of Serbia: as they say they simply do not care to blockade another Nation (at the moment they are introducing the same style of diplomacy towards the Iceland too) , but they are trying to wash out their “national embarrassment” with the implementation of unilateral “blackmail sort of” diplomacy?

What about if the Dutch instead decide to finally face their “embarrassment and moral failure” in Srebrenica and do not resolve the inability of their inner politics to face this embarrassing facts by blocking the prosperity of another Nation 14 years, and to repeat 14 years, after the Srebrenica massacre.

Your concept of being “the concise of the World” may bring the “sanctions torn” and the forth oldest Nation in the World, Serbia, to the brink of demographic existence. Dutch carelessness may turn easily to another major” national embarrassment”. Does “self-called tolerant and free-minded” Dutch do believe that young generation of Serbs do have their right for the free, prosperous and dissent life? I may only hope so.

“Serbia and the rest of Balkan as beggars”? Well most of this “baggers” Nations of Balkans gave the millions of life’s for the Freedom of present Europe which is enjoyed for more than 50 years by Western Europeans, as long as Dutch waited for the people from another Continents, namely Canadians to liberate them from Nazis. That simple fact, among the million others, would certainly entitle “the bagger Nations”, as you are so “vividly” describing us, to choose to take their place in Europe.