Serbian, Turkish FMs stress "good cooperation"

"The Turkish foreign minister added that there were different views on certain issues, referring to Kosovo."

This is correct, there is different view regarding Armenian genocide and Kurdish problem, too.

We can talk Kosovo, but just don't mention the Kurds.

Good, keep your friend close but your enemies even closer. And dont let them to invest in Serbia.
500 years of torture will never be forgoten

Vuk's face speaks volumes. He knows he is speaking with one of Albania's strongest allies, who coincidentally happens to be the 5th largest army in the world and the 2nd largest Army in NATO.

Mike

Let me remind you that unlike Bosnia in the 1990's, today's Albania is a NATO member. That means that any attack on Albania is an attack on all NATO countries. Turkey thus needs no other pretext to come to Albania's aid, for the fact that it is aiding a fellow NATO member is enough. Militarily, the cooperation between Turkey and Albania is very well documented, in both armament and infrastructure. The Pasha Liman NAVY base is one such example. So I will say it again, that should Serbia ever dream of touching one hair of Albanian land, Turkish jets will be circling Belgrade like they do the Greek Islands on a daily basis.

Of course Turkey will intervene. So will the US. Albania is a NATO member. Attacking a member state is attacking the whole alliance. Just let Serbia try some foolish stuff when it comes to Albania and see what happens.

Fat use having the world's 5th largest army and NATO's second largest when the only people you seem to be able to fight are the Kurds. With all that technology and such a large army your personnel must be poorly trainesd if you can't even defeat the Kurds.
(Radoslav, 23 July 2009 18:50)

Radoslave:
Turkey can deafeat kurds within an hours, but they are NATO members and ther are trying to get in to the EU. I don't know if you remember for how many days took to invade the northern cyprus. 2 days my friend, 2 days.
Don't mess up with Turkey they will have another Ottoman empire, but this time forever within balkans.

TITO: "And dont let them to invest in Serbia. 500 years of torture will never be forgoten"

The whole purpose of the meeting was investments.

Rebel, the one one talking of any attack is you. If you bothered to read the article, it doesn't appear likely that Serbia is gearing up to invade anyone and relations with Turkey appear to be good. So let me remind you to get out of the Cold War.

I´d close Serbia for turkish investments -

they shouldn´t be allowed to earn money in or with Serbia unless they revoke this shameful joke they call a "recognition".

as for the turkish army: they are not that strong as some albanian kiddie would like them to be.

but that´s not the point here.

it´s in Turkey´s very own interest not to cooperate with the albanian separatists, since Turkey is itself a country made up of many different ethnicities... and they could easily follow the old Yugoslavia, if they end/lose their usefulness for the US...

And the spirit of Milos Obrenovic lives on...

"He knows he is speaking with one of Albania's strongest allies, who coincidentally happens to be the 5th largest army in the world and the 2nd largest Army in NATO."

-- And what, praytell, do you think Turkey is going to do? Is Turkey really that openly committed to fighting your wars for you? Does Turkey, like the US, really give a damn? I don't remember them coming to Bosnia's aid, or Azerbaijan's for that matter.

Fat use having the world's 5th largest army and NATO's second largest when the only people you seem to be able to fight are the Kurds. With all that technology and such a large army your personnel must be poorly trainesd if you can't even defeat the Kurds.

Prizoner - The Turks have been trying to defeat the Kurds for decades and haven't managed it so stop dreaming about some SE European caliphate. it just ain't gonna happen.

And what, praytell, do you think Turkey is going to do? Is Turkey really that openly committed to fighting your wars for you? Does Turkey, like the US, really give a damn? I don't remember them coming to Bosnia's aid, or Azerbaijan's for that matter.
--
Enough with war talk, but Turkey has a defense treaty with Albania. The reason US and NATO entered in Kosova was that, to stop a possible wider war. If Albania got involved, Turkey would have joined in, maybe Greece too and have a real war, between NATO members. That was the fear. But Turkey or anyone powerful can send in weapons to help.

I don't see anyone eager to start a war with the Turks, they violate Greece's territory every 3 days, and have "occupied" Cyprus yet the Greeks only send letters of protest. Why? Turks have an amazing military.

Rebel wrote:
"That means that any attack on Albania is an attack on all NATO countries."

Unless of course....You're Greece.

You Albanian posters make too much of yourselves. It embaresses me, and i just want to hit the BACK button on my browser.

"Enough with war talk, but Turkey has a defense treaty with Albania. The reason US and NATO entered in Kosova was that, to stop a possible wider war. If Albania got involved, Turkey would have joined in, maybe Greece too and have a real war, between NATO members. That was the fear. But Turkey or anyone powerful can send in weapons to help."

funny. enough with "war-talk" but then you´re just starting to spread out your wildes dreams and phantasies here...

I´d say someone is terribly overestimating his own importance here.

neither the Turks nor the Greek army would have entered southern Serbia by violent means. who ever dared to enter Serbia without an agreement with Belgrade would have suffered severe losses, the Turks know that very well. so you should finally stop these childish phantasies and turn on your brain.

this kind of dreams brought you to the situation you are now in: being a rat-hole without real future.
how many unemployed are living in your "newborn" ?

For all those exited Albanians claiming that after the US retreats Turkey is going to save them think again:
1)Turkey is a third world country,they do not have a military industry and are not able to manufacture weapons(which is very essential if you want to be a great power) but are bying them from the US.
2)Turkey consists 35% of ethnic minorities that hate the Turks(Kurds,Alevites,Arabs,Iranians).
3)The only reason Turkey exists as a state is because they have been propped up by the Anglosaxons until now in order to keep the Russians away from gaining a strategic foothold in Little Asia!
When they leave(which will happen soon)Turkey will suffer the fate of the old Yugoslavia.
Everything in favour of Albania depends solely of the position of the US,forget Turkey,Germany they cannot measure up to the military strength of Russia.
Remember the Russian-Ottoman War of 1878 in which the Ottoman troops were catastrophically defeated and already left Konstantinopel only to be saved by the Brits which back then were the "naval" superpower and threatened to intervene on behalf of them.
Make no mistake:Turkey is still the sick man of the Bosporus,with defeating them at Kumanovo in 1912 we Serbs chased the Turks out of Europe once and for all.

i´d rather make business with a turk then with a westerner.

'Don't mess up with Turkey they will have another Ottoman empire, but this time forever within balkans.
(prizreni, 23 July 2009 22:49) '

There are those who agree with you. I'm reading a book (The Next Hundred Years) that claims that the next major regional powers in Eurasia will be Turkey and "Poland" (shorthand for East Europe + Croatia). The Turks are certainly well-positioned for a major role.

Fat use having the world's 5th largest army and NATO's second largest when the only people you seem to be able to fight are the Kurds. With all that technology and such a large army your personnel must be poorly trainesd if you can't even defeat the Kurds.
(Radoslav, 23 July 2009 18:50)

Radoslave:
Turkey can deafeat kurds within an hours, but they are NATO members and ther are trying to get in to the EU. I don't know if you remember for how many days took to invade the northern cyprus. 2 days my friend, 2 days.
Don't mess up with Turkey they will have another Ottoman empire, but this time forever within balkans.

Of course Turkey will intervene. So will the US. Albania is a NATO member. Attacking a member state is attacking the whole alliance. Just let Serbia try some foolish stuff when it comes to Albania and see what happens.

Mike

Let me remind you that unlike Bosnia in the 1990's, today's Albania is a NATO member. That means that any attack on Albania is an attack on all NATO countries. Turkey thus needs no other pretext to come to Albania's aid, for the fact that it is aiding a fellow NATO member is enough. Militarily, the cooperation between Turkey and Albania is very well documented, in both armament and infrastructure. The Pasha Liman NAVY base is one such example. So I will say it again, that should Serbia ever dream of touching one hair of Albanian land, Turkish jets will be circling Belgrade like they do the Greek Islands on a daily basis.

Vuk's face speaks volumes. He knows he is speaking with one of Albania's strongest allies, who coincidentally happens to be the 5th largest army in the world and the 2nd largest Army in NATO.

TITO: "And dont let them to invest in Serbia. 500 years of torture will never be forgoten"

The whole purpose of the meeting was investments.

"The Turkish foreign minister added that there were different views on certain issues, referring to Kosovo."

This is correct, there is different view regarding Armenian genocide and Kurdish problem, too.

Good, keep your friend close but your enemies even closer. And dont let them to invest in Serbia.
500 years of torture will never be forgoten

And what, praytell, do you think Turkey is going to do? Is Turkey really that openly committed to fighting your wars for you? Does Turkey, like the US, really give a damn? I don't remember them coming to Bosnia's aid, or Azerbaijan's for that matter.
--
Enough with war talk, but Turkey has a defense treaty with Albania. The reason US and NATO entered in Kosova was that, to stop a possible wider war. If Albania got involved, Turkey would have joined in, maybe Greece too and have a real war, between NATO members. That was the fear. But Turkey or anyone powerful can send in weapons to help.

I don't see anyone eager to start a war with the Turks, they violate Greece's territory every 3 days, and have "occupied" Cyprus yet the Greeks only send letters of protest. Why? Turks have an amazing military.

I´d close Serbia for turkish investments -

they shouldn´t be allowed to earn money in or with Serbia unless they revoke this shameful joke they call a "recognition".

as for the turkish army: they are not that strong as some albanian kiddie would like them to be.

but that´s not the point here.

it´s in Turkey´s very own interest not to cooperate with the albanian separatists, since Turkey is itself a country made up of many different ethnicities... and they could easily follow the old Yugoslavia, if they end/lose their usefulness for the US...

We can talk Kosovo, but just don't mention the Kurds.

And the spirit of Milos Obrenovic lives on...

"He knows he is speaking with one of Albania's strongest allies, who coincidentally happens to be the 5th largest army in the world and the 2nd largest Army in NATO."

-- And what, praytell, do you think Turkey is going to do? Is Turkey really that openly committed to fighting your wars for you? Does Turkey, like the US, really give a damn? I don't remember them coming to Bosnia's aid, or Azerbaijan's for that matter.

'Don't mess up with Turkey they will have another Ottoman empire, but this time forever within balkans.
(prizreni, 23 July 2009 22:49) '

There are those who agree with you. I'm reading a book (The Next Hundred Years) that claims that the next major regional powers in Eurasia will be Turkey and "Poland" (shorthand for East Europe + Croatia). The Turks are certainly well-positioned for a major role.

Fat use having the world's 5th largest army and NATO's second largest when the only people you seem to be able to fight are the Kurds. With all that technology and such a large army your personnel must be poorly trainesd if you can't even defeat the Kurds.

Rebel, the one one talking of any attack is you. If you bothered to read the article, it doesn't appear likely that Serbia is gearing up to invade anyone and relations with Turkey appear to be good. So let me remind you to get out of the Cold War.

Rebel wrote:
"That means that any attack on Albania is an attack on all NATO countries."

Unless of course....You're Greece.

You Albanian posters make too much of yourselves. It embaresses me, and i just want to hit the BACK button on my browser.

Prizoner - The Turks have been trying to defeat the Kurds for decades and haven't managed it so stop dreaming about some SE European caliphate. it just ain't gonna happen.

For all those exited Albanians claiming that after the US retreats Turkey is going to save them think again:
1)Turkey is a third world country,they do not have a military industry and are not able to manufacture weapons(which is very essential if you want to be a great power) but are bying them from the US.
2)Turkey consists 35% of ethnic minorities that hate the Turks(Kurds,Alevites,Arabs,Iranians).
3)The only reason Turkey exists as a state is because they have been propped up by the Anglosaxons until now in order to keep the Russians away from gaining a strategic foothold in Little Asia!
When they leave(which will happen soon)Turkey will suffer the fate of the old Yugoslavia.
Everything in favour of Albania depends solely of the position of the US,forget Turkey,Germany they cannot measure up to the military strength of Russia.
Remember the Russian-Ottoman War of 1878 in which the Ottoman troops were catastrophically defeated and already left Konstantinopel only to be saved by the Brits which back then were the "naval" superpower and threatened to intervene on behalf of them.
Make no mistake:Turkey is still the sick man of the Bosporus,with defeating them at Kumanovo in 1912 we Serbs chased the Turks out of Europe once and for all.

i´d rather make business with a turk then with a westerner.

"Enough with war talk, but Turkey has a defense treaty with Albania. The reason US and NATO entered in Kosova was that, to stop a possible wider war. If Albania got involved, Turkey would have joined in, maybe Greece too and have a real war, between NATO members. That was the fear. But Turkey or anyone powerful can send in weapons to help."

funny. enough with "war-talk" but then you´re just starting to spread out your wildes dreams and phantasies here...

I´d say someone is terribly overestimating his own importance here.

neither the Turks nor the Greek army would have entered southern Serbia by violent means. who ever dared to enter Serbia without an agreement with Belgrade would have suffered severe losses, the Turks know that very well. so you should finally stop these childish phantasies and turn on your brain.

this kind of dreams brought you to the situation you are now in: being a rat-hole without real future.
how many unemployed are living in your "newborn" ?