Thaci: Belgrade considering recognition

Looks like Hash has been smoking some weird stuff. A few months ago he also suggested Russia and China were shortly going to recognise Kosovo but that also turned out to be false.

If anyone is preventing progress it's definitely this guy with his delusional ideas. It's time to remove this joker, move away from the past, admit that independence has failed and then we can negotiate a proper future for all people in our province.

Independence is irreversibly blocked and can never be achieved. Time to face reality my friends!

PRN Wrote:
We are proud of you, a politician with high ethics.
(PRN, 15 July 2009 10:35)

You got to be kidding me, PRN.
I am Albanian from Kosovo and Thaci is NOT politician with high ethics, as a matter of fact he does not have ethics at all.
Maybe you can fool someone else but not us who know him.

Keep dreaming. Serbia will not accept illegal (!) Kosovo independence.

A mutual agreed deal is fine of course!

haha there is a saying "dont get high on your own supply".

for team Albanian here is a simple equation = any Serbian politician who wants to be president of Serbia, will never recognise Kosovo as the fake country it is now for the simple fact Serbs will not vote for him

And also what happend to Russian and China recognising, oh thats it i rember the russians telling you to shut up.

KOSOVO JE SRBIJA
CRNA GORA JE SRBIJA

God Bless the Free world :)

We are proud of you, a politician with high ethics.
(PRN, 15 July 2009 10:35)

Who are the "we"? Drenica clan? Who else? What about Albanian poster here who do not want to know about him? Are they undercover Serbs, Albanian traitors paid by FSB, what-not?

To the original topic: as I experienced and as other Albanians reported, Thaci is by no means a success at home. He probably feels to address the people (at least play the patriotic card) to prolong his political (low) life.

Maybe you can fool someone else but not us who know him.
(Eagle, 15 July 2009 12:50)

Precisely, here at least somewhat common uniting Serbs and Albanians. It would be a very good sign to see decent leaders who represent Albanians. All I am "asking for" is someone who wasn't involved in any kind of military action, has no communist past and does not belong to some dubious clan. If (s)he is good professionally, that's a welcome bonus.

Is it that hard? If you can "produce" people like that and if we see less "trolling" - you can count of much better support and get from 2009 Serbia much more just by asking. 2009 is not 1999.

Please do not apply the "1999 versus 2009" logic. 1944 almost everyone from my family was shot by Hungarians into Danube. Who wasn't - was killed later in Auschwitz. Today is 2009, not 1944 and I am living in Hungary.

I did not know that Thaci was a comedian too. Or like Zoran said, maybe he was one Hash:-)
Instead of making fun of himself he should have been focused on unemployment, better life for KS population.
Anyhow, this is a nice way of loosing political points quickly.

Well, I would not like that inhabitants of Serbia's southern renegade Province do get wrong ideas, but in the course of their lifetime and, thinking globaly, neither ever in the dynamic history of Planet Earth, Serbia will NOT recognise, nether ever reconsider it, the "independence" of its Province.
The most of its, "America sponsored renegade bully status", Kosovo run by the predominantly exstrimits and suspected terorists, already have achieved and that is to be souranding land around American base called Bondsteel.

And concerning suspected War Criminal Thaci, once when he makes a “wrong step”, actually right step, and “visits”, let’s say Slovakia or Spain, he will be consequently handed to Justice and Serbia and his “freedom of expression” will be regulated by the local Prison authorities.

All of this just for simple clearance.

Thanks Thaci for being transparent to the people of the Balkans.

You always tell the truth, EVEN if sometimes hurts somebody.

We are proud of you, a politician with high ethics.

Is this guy for real? When you think you've heard it all, you get something from left field.

This will not happen - get your own passports - PLEASE!

CCCC

“Anyone who didn't fight or support the fight doesn't belong in K politics. (aRTA, 15 July 2009 14:48)”

Rugova (Rest in Peace) and Surroi are real politicians and their hands are clean of blood. Thaci is just a thug in a suit, none of my moderate Albanian friends support him.

“On the other hand, how many Serbs would agree to recognize Kosova in exchange for EU membership? Take a look at the polls…”

aRTA, last poll I saw said 70% of the Serbian population would NOT trade Kosovo for the EU, and at that time, 70% of the population was in favor of the EU, and that dropped to 61% this year. So I’d suggest maybe you look at the polls. EU support is going down, not up.

Sure Tadic wants to do what he was bought and paid for but that will be political suicide of the current regime.

Oh, Snake, Snake!

"Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades."

How can this be? There was I thinking you were a young "country", yet the figure you quote suggests that Kosova's birthrate has dwindled to nearly zero over the past decade. I reckon your statistics are as reliable as Thaci's analysis.

Thaci better watch out come December & Copenhagen. Is liable to be 'sequestered' if he keeps generating all this 'hot air'.

Yes, Belgrade will recognize Kosova Independence soon because now EU compromised with Serbia for visas liberalization if it recognizez Kosova

And 99.99999% of Albanians support independence so that's not an issue.

Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades.

(aRTA, 15 July 2009 14:48)

Fine, the independence is TBD. First clean up your act before to deserve it. Nice people - but with horrible, indecent "fat cats". Please put these "fat cats" where they belong. Is it that hard?

It's almost an embarrasment that my country finances, supports, and trains this guy. Other than comic relief and the man-crush he has with Holbrook, I see little use for paying attention to him.

He's messing with your heads. Most serbs think that Tadic sold out anyway. See EULEX, 6 points etc. Serbia will not get in EU or near it without "cooperation" with the "Republic of Kosovo," even Feith said that now. Imagine what they will say 5-10 years later as Serbia gets closer

Thaci is trying to score political points with this, even though his election was a farce in every sense now that EULEX is watching over things he cannot just "arrange" re-election and his and his "govt's" popularity among the local albos is dwindling as things with the UDI have not been so smooth as he fortold.

If Thaci was so conserned about spoiling Belgrades will he would not have released his statement prematurely. Sounds to me he is trying to stir trouble and create friction.

Oh yes Bogdanovic, a very small number of countries have recognized Dardania as an independent country, tiny little 61 for now on ;)

---"All I am "asking for" is someone who wasn't involved in any kind of military action, has no communist past and does not belong to some dubious clan."

Anyone who didn't fight or support the fight doesn't belong in K politics. The war was 10 years ago so anyone 26 and older and over will have to answer: "so, where were you in 1999?"

And 99.99999% of Albanians support independence so that's not an issue.

Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades.

On the other hand, how many Serbs would agree to recognize Kosova in exchange for EU membership? Take a look at the polls, 39% even support joining NATO! That's how it will happen, especially as average Serbs finds out what Serbia did in Kosovo, right now there is self-censorship.

due to the panic that a very small number of countries have recognized Kosovo,” said the minister

62 out of 192 is neraly 1/3 (only 2 missing, still). Now, to call 1/3 of the whole a very small number??? Send the minister back to school please

he must be very desperate, when shortly after sending " new arguments" to the ICJ now he is talking about Belgrade "considering recognition"...

poor K-albanians, you are obeying the wrong "leaders"...

but at the end of the day, it is your own choice, WHEN you start being realistic and accepting that international law is binding you too.

sooner or later you will have to accept it.

...re-election and his and his "govt's" popularity among the local albos is dwindling as things with the UDI have not been so smooth as he fortold.>>

this racism (the albos, bla bla bla) is toxic and needs to be stopped! that's not a question, that's a clear declarative. hello!!!!

as to thaci's statement, which i'd already read on an alternative site, i just don't get him. this bldg regime ready to recognize kosovo/a?? of course it should, and of course it will not. nor turn over maladic and his pals, nor many other things that it should do.

but that is part of the democratic political process (i think some of you have heard of that)and the forces of democracy need to keep moving forward in Kosovo/a. we need to support that, which i do. i appreciate the diverse comments of the democratic struggle from inside Kosovo/a by our kosovar colleagues here.

keep up the good work, and continue to push for human-rights and democratic reforms, even in the midst of so much hate and threats from (some of)
the outside neighbors.

peace.

roberto
frisco

62 countries that recognize Kosova Independence are not a small number and even if it was at least most of them are very powetfull . I am happy that Prime Minister Thaçi is optimistic on Belgrade recognition lets hope!
(Mario Prostran, Croatia, 16 July 2009 11:16)

Well, if not the name (Thaçi) and not the underhanded way UDI was done (here US administration is to blame) than it could be 162 and not 62.

Negotiations did not lead to any result simply because Bush & Co. told Albanians, they do not need to negotiate and it was not even a big secret.

Nothing new about Americans supporting criminals just to get through with their agenda. Today the entire thing is rather a burden to them. But what happened is what happened. They promised a "short-cut" but could not deliver it.

I am curious to know, who does disagree with what I just said and why.

62 countries that recognize Kosova Independence are not a small number and even if it was at least most of them are very powetfull . I am happy that Prime Minister Thaçi is optimistic on Belgrade recognition lets hope!

(aRTA, 15 July 2009 14:48)

Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades.

WOW,Hold on, decades, Do you remember the ottomans and the communists?

one thing is for sure, that Serbia is lucky country because of Thaqi's leadership!!! imagine having another really prime minister???

Well, if not the name (Thaçi) and not the underhanded way UDI was done (here US administration is to blame) than it could be 162 and not 62.

Negotiations did not lead to any result simply because Bush & Co. told Albanians, they do not need to negotiate and it was not even a big secret.

Nothing new about Americans supporting criminals just to get through with their agenda. Today the entire thing is rather a burden to them. But what happened is what happened. They promised a "short-cut" but could not deliver it.

I am curious to know, who does disagree with what I just said and why.
(Ataman, 16 July 2009 15:24)

I beg to disagree, from your false statements.

Albanians were the first to ask for negotiation for 10 years under Rugova, and they met Serbian arrogance, stubbornness and brutality. Indeed Albanians were the only ones in the region to choose peaceful resistance first, while everyone else was fighting each other to death. Thaci and co. are indeed a creation of Serbia's policies towards K-Alb, and they apparently, for those who are familiar with the region, were not the first choice of Albanians, unlike Milosevic who was the first choice of serbs. They were "forced" to be by Serbian policies. K-Alb embraced moderate leaders a decade before Serbs, and they did such even after the war.
And yet the serbian side in a most disgusting way accuses Albanians for extremism.

So to be more accurate, negotiations did not link any result because Serbian side did not want to negotiate until it was bombed to recession (had no choice) and created an environment that any negotiation was impossible.

As mass graves with Albanian bodies are still being found across Kosovo and Serbia, and brutal massacress are revealed, the facts are clear. K-Alb can never and will never trust Serbia again. There are no negotiations on this. If they are so naive to do so, (trust Serbia) they will die en masse, sooner or later, history has proven this fact to be 100% accurate. Albanians can not just sit there and pray to God that another Milosevic will not come along.

And one has to be either naive or cynical to excpect that Albanians play with the lives of their children in such a way.

Hope your curiosity is satisfied?

I think that both their comments are highly charged politically, but they hold some truth as well.

Thaci, might have done it for many reasons, especially for public support as the elections are coming up. On the other hand, Belgrad's decision to join "White Shengen" without Kosovo, its a defacto important step towards an ease of its stance. EU doesn't consider Kosovo part of Serbia and Serbia has lost legitimacy over it in EU's perspective.

On the other hand, the argument that Kosovo is not recognized by many countries I think is very weak. This is why:

Formal Recognitions Data:

62 out of 192 United Nations (UN) Member States (32.29%)

3 out of 5 UN Security Council (UNSC) Permanent Member States (60%)

22 out of 27 European Union (EU) Member States (81.48%)

24 out of 28 NATO Member States (85.71%)

33 out of 47 Council of Europe (COE) Member States (70.21%)

35 out of 56 OSCE Member States (62.5%)

14 out of 57 OIC Member States (24.56%)

5 out of 22 Arab League Member States (22.73%)

7 out of 7 G7 Member Countries (100%)
(and by 7 out of 8 G8 (G7 + Russia) Member Countries or 87.5% )

Countries that formally recognize Kosova make up 71.7% of the World's Total nominal GDP
(Data collected from CIA factbook and World Bank, 2007)

This was very funny! Everyone knows how much Snake and his gangsters respect human rights. Milosevic was much better for Serbs and Albanians in Kosmet.

62 countries that recognize Kosova Independence are not a small number and even if it was at least most of them are very powetfull . I am happy that Prime Minister Thaçi is optimistic on Belgrade recognition lets hope!
(Mario Prostran, Croatia, 16 July 2009 11:16)
I am also very optimistic for Serbian Republic of Krajina but reality is much different. Unlike Albanians, Serbs had more rights to have independence (Genocide in NDH, mistreatment thath they had in independent Croatia etc.) We must never stop helping Serbs in Krajina to achieve what is their legal and legitimate right.

We in the EU don't give a damn either way. Better you both stay out.

Thaci is trying to score political points with this, even though his election was a farce in every sense now that EULEX is watching over things he cannot just "arrange" re-election and his and his "govt's" popularity among the local albos is dwindling as things with the UDI have not been so smooth as he fortold.
(AAAA, 15 July 2009 16:32)


"Election was farce" , how would you know? I was an observe at polling station and we had the cleanest election ever. Thaqi got majority votes, so good luck to him and he will get it again since at this time he has no competition, even though he gets in my nerves at times. At least he will be remebered in history, which declared Kosova's Independence and recognitions from major powers start coming the next day.

Well hold on you plp,, The Big Dogs, say no EU unless you recignize Kosovo.

Maybe you can fool someone else but not us who know him.
(Eagle, 15 July 2009 12:50)


Same here, I think he's the worst leader for K-Albanians and the best leader for minorities. Imagine if elections were to be held this year?, would this guy get 5% of votes?, trust me once he loses he'll leave Kosova, he's stolen enough money and he can have beatiuful life for the next 100 years. I never liked him and never will. I would love to see a leader in Kosova who's pro Dardania and someone who reunites Illyrian-Albanian lands. All Albanians should remember 10th anniversary of Racak massacre when this stupid leader of Kosova forgave Serbia everything... he even offered to shake hands with Serbs in exchange for recognition. Maybe he's right on that one since no one during 98-99 war raped his kids or his wife or even him.
He's the worst from all previous traitors. I didn't want to say this in front of Serbs but Albanian websites won't publish my comments about him.
If you think that hashim thachi is a good man you're wrong, so please change your mind before it's too late. Name just single battle that hashim thachi fought against Serbs in 98 or 99. Impossible to name it because he never stepped in Kosova during the war. Looks like it's worth to give yourself a nickname and never do anything under that very nickname. I would love to know if he's finished grade 12. Thachi is a disgrace for all 2 million Albanians.

one think i never did not understand regjim in serbia kill and born all around in Kosova and now they love us we want Kosova, for born in again after 50 years or why?

In spite of the numbers thrown by the last poster, I believe Kosovo Albanians are stuck at 62. The ICJ is a big hurdle they need to overpass. Though I am not a fan of the Serbian foreign minister, I admire his skills in practically bringing the recognitions to a standstill. Albanians had put too much faith on the Arab league members. And waving our flag too much, although we appreciate, it’s simply not helping with them very much. I predict, if Kosovo doesn't obtain another 30 recognitions before those hearings begin, they will have to deal in front of ICJ under a clout of weakness. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the end the best suggestion would arise from the West itself, where Albanian dominated parts of Kosovo join Albania, and Serb dominated parts join Serbia. Some swapping of cities and population may be necessary. Though I may be wrong, but the dream of multi/ethnic society in Kosovo, Albania, or Serbia was never meant to work. Forcing Albanians and Serbs to live together is like throwing a match in the gun powder and hoping it won’t explode. So, why wait for another war to settle scores, where peaceful separation of lands is the only sensible solution that may buy some peace time.

Thanks Thaci for being transparent to the people of the Balkans.

You always tell the truth, EVEN if sometimes hurts somebody.

We are proud of you, a politician with high ethics.

Oh yes Bogdanovic, a very small number of countries have recognized Dardania as an independent country, tiny little 61 for now on ;)

Yes, Belgrade will recognize Kosova Independence soon because now EU compromised with Serbia for visas liberalization if it recognizez Kosova

He's messing with your heads. Most serbs think that Tadic sold out anyway. See EULEX, 6 points etc. Serbia will not get in EU or near it without "cooperation" with the "Republic of Kosovo," even Feith said that now. Imagine what they will say 5-10 years later as Serbia gets closer

Looks like Hash has been smoking some weird stuff. A few months ago he also suggested Russia and China were shortly going to recognise Kosovo but that also turned out to be false.

If anyone is preventing progress it's definitely this guy with his delusional ideas. It's time to remove this joker, move away from the past, admit that independence has failed and then we can negotiate a proper future for all people in our province.

Independence is irreversibly blocked and can never be achieved. Time to face reality my friends!

---"All I am "asking for" is someone who wasn't involved in any kind of military action, has no communist past and does not belong to some dubious clan."

Anyone who didn't fight or support the fight doesn't belong in K politics. The war was 10 years ago so anyone 26 and older and over will have to answer: "so, where were you in 1999?"

And 99.99999% of Albanians support independence so that's not an issue.

Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades.

On the other hand, how many Serbs would agree to recognize Kosova in exchange for EU membership? Take a look at the polls, 39% even support joining NATO! That's how it will happen, especially as average Serbs finds out what Serbia did in Kosovo, right now there is self-censorship.

...re-election and his and his "govt's" popularity among the local albos is dwindling as things with the UDI have not been so smooth as he fortold.>>

this racism (the albos, bla bla bla) is toxic and needs to be stopped! that's not a question, that's a clear declarative. hello!!!!

as to thaci's statement, which i'd already read on an alternative site, i just don't get him. this bldg regime ready to recognize kosovo/a?? of course it should, and of course it will not. nor turn over maladic and his pals, nor many other things that it should do.

but that is part of the democratic political process (i think some of you have heard of that)and the forces of democracy need to keep moving forward in Kosovo/a. we need to support that, which i do. i appreciate the diverse comments of the democratic struggle from inside Kosovo/a by our kosovar colleagues here.

keep up the good work, and continue to push for human-rights and democratic reforms, even in the midst of so much hate and threats from (some of)
the outside neighbors.

peace.

roberto
frisco

Sure Tadic wants to do what he was bought and paid for but that will be political suicide of the current regime.

haha there is a saying "dont get high on your own supply".

for team Albanian here is a simple equation = any Serbian politician who wants to be president of Serbia, will never recognise Kosovo as the fake country it is now for the simple fact Serbs will not vote for him

And also what happend to Russian and China recognising, oh thats it i rember the russians telling you to shut up.

KOSOVO JE SRBIJA
CRNA GORA JE SRBIJA

God Bless the Free world :)

Well, I would not like that inhabitants of Serbia's southern renegade Province do get wrong ideas, but in the course of their lifetime and, thinking globaly, neither ever in the dynamic history of Planet Earth, Serbia will NOT recognise, nether ever reconsider it, the "independence" of its Province.
The most of its, "America sponsored renegade bully status", Kosovo run by the predominantly exstrimits and suspected terorists, already have achieved and that is to be souranding land around American base called Bondsteel.

And concerning suspected War Criminal Thaci, once when he makes a “wrong step”, actually right step, and “visits”, let’s say Slovakia or Spain, he will be consequently handed to Justice and Serbia and his “freedom of expression” will be regulated by the local Prison authorities.

All of this just for simple clearance.

Thaci is trying to score political points with this, even though his election was a farce in every sense now that EULEX is watching over things he cannot just "arrange" re-election and his and his "govt's" popularity among the local albos is dwindling as things with the UDI have not been so smooth as he fortold.
(AAAA, 15 July 2009 16:32)


"Election was farce" , how would you know? I was an observe at polling station and we had the cleanest election ever. Thaqi got majority votes, so good luck to him and he will get it again since at this time he has no competition, even though he gets in my nerves at times. At least he will be remebered in history, which declared Kosova's Independence and recognitions from major powers start coming the next day.

Keep dreaming. Serbia will not accept illegal (!) Kosovo independence.

A mutual agreed deal is fine of course!

We are proud of you, a politician with high ethics.
(PRN, 15 July 2009 10:35)

Who are the "we"? Drenica clan? Who else? What about Albanian poster here who do not want to know about him? Are they undercover Serbs, Albanian traitors paid by FSB, what-not?

To the original topic: as I experienced and as other Albanians reported, Thaci is by no means a success at home. He probably feels to address the people (at least play the patriotic card) to prolong his political (low) life.

due to the panic that a very small number of countries have recognized Kosovo,” said the minister

62 out of 192 is neraly 1/3 (only 2 missing, still). Now, to call 1/3 of the whole a very small number??? Send the minister back to school please

PRN Wrote:
We are proud of you, a politician with high ethics.
(PRN, 15 July 2009 10:35)

You got to be kidding me, PRN.
I am Albanian from Kosovo and Thaci is NOT politician with high ethics, as a matter of fact he does not have ethics at all.
Maybe you can fool someone else but not us who know him.

I did not know that Thaci was a comedian too. Or like Zoran said, maybe he was one Hash:-)
Instead of making fun of himself he should have been focused on unemployment, better life for KS population.
Anyhow, this is a nice way of loosing political points quickly.

62 countries that recognize Kosova Independence are not a small number and even if it was at least most of them are very powetfull . I am happy that Prime Minister Thaçi is optimistic on Belgrade recognition lets hope!

Maybe you can fool someone else but not us who know him.
(Eagle, 15 July 2009 12:50)

Precisely, here at least somewhat common uniting Serbs and Albanians. It would be a very good sign to see decent leaders who represent Albanians. All I am "asking for" is someone who wasn't involved in any kind of military action, has no communist past and does not belong to some dubious clan. If (s)he is good professionally, that's a welcome bonus.

Is it that hard? If you can "produce" people like that and if we see less "trolling" - you can count of much better support and get from 2009 Serbia much more just by asking. 2009 is not 1999.

Please do not apply the "1999 versus 2009" logic. 1944 almost everyone from my family was shot by Hungarians into Danube. Who wasn't - was killed later in Auschwitz. Today is 2009, not 1944 and I am living in Hungary.

We in the EU don't give a damn either way. Better you both stay out.

Is this guy for real? When you think you've heard it all, you get something from left field.

This will not happen - get your own passports - PLEASE!

CCCC

Oh, Snake, Snake!

And 99.99999% of Albanians support independence so that's not an issue.

Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades.

(aRTA, 15 July 2009 14:48)

Fine, the independence is TBD. First clean up your act before to deserve it. Nice people - but with horrible, indecent "fat cats". Please put these "fat cats" where they belong. Is it that hard?

one think i never did not understand regjim in serbia kill and born all around in Kosova and now they love us we want Kosova, for born in again after 50 years or why?

Maybe you can fool someone else but not us who know him.
(Eagle, 15 July 2009 12:50)


Same here, I think he's the worst leader for K-Albanians and the best leader for minorities. Imagine if elections were to be held this year?, would this guy get 5% of votes?, trust me once he loses he'll leave Kosova, he's stolen enough money and he can have beatiuful life for the next 100 years. I never liked him and never will. I would love to see a leader in Kosova who's pro Dardania and someone who reunites Illyrian-Albanian lands. All Albanians should remember 10th anniversary of Racak massacre when this stupid leader of Kosova forgave Serbia everything... he even offered to shake hands with Serbs in exchange for recognition. Maybe he's right on that one since no one during 98-99 war raped his kids or his wife or even him.
He's the worst from all previous traitors. I didn't want to say this in front of Serbs but Albanian websites won't publish my comments about him.
If you think that hashim thachi is a good man you're wrong, so please change your mind before it's too late. Name just single battle that hashim thachi fought against Serbs in 98 or 99. Impossible to name it because he never stepped in Kosova during the war. Looks like it's worth to give yourself a nickname and never do anything under that very nickname. I would love to know if he's finished grade 12. Thachi is a disgrace for all 2 million Albanians.

Well hold on you plp,, The Big Dogs, say no EU unless you recignize Kosovo.

"Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades."

How can this be? There was I thinking you were a young "country", yet the figure you quote suggests that Kosova's birthrate has dwindled to nearly zero over the past decade. I reckon your statistics are as reliable as Thaci's analysis.

I think that both their comments are highly charged politically, but they hold some truth as well.

Thaci, might have done it for many reasons, especially for public support as the elections are coming up. On the other hand, Belgrad's decision to join "White Shengen" without Kosovo, its a defacto important step towards an ease of its stance. EU doesn't consider Kosovo part of Serbia and Serbia has lost legitimacy over it in EU's perspective.

On the other hand, the argument that Kosovo is not recognized by many countries I think is very weak. This is why:

Formal Recognitions Data:

62 out of 192 United Nations (UN) Member States (32.29%)

3 out of 5 UN Security Council (UNSC) Permanent Member States (60%)

22 out of 27 European Union (EU) Member States (81.48%)

24 out of 28 NATO Member States (85.71%)

33 out of 47 Council of Europe (COE) Member States (70.21%)

35 out of 56 OSCE Member States (62.5%)

14 out of 57 OIC Member States (24.56%)

5 out of 22 Arab League Member States (22.73%)

7 out of 7 G7 Member Countries (100%)
(and by 7 out of 8 G8 (G7 + Russia) Member Countries or 87.5% )

Countries that formally recognize Kosova make up 71.7% of the World's Total nominal GDP
(Data collected from CIA factbook and World Bank, 2007)

If Thaci was so conserned about spoiling Belgrades will he would not have released his statement prematurely. Sounds to me he is trying to stir trouble and create friction.

Thaci is trying to score political points with this, even though his election was a farce in every sense now that EULEX is watching over things he cannot just "arrange" re-election and his and his "govt's" popularity among the local albos is dwindling as things with the UDI have not been so smooth as he fortold.

Thaci better watch out come December & Copenhagen. Is liable to be 'sequestered' if he keeps generating all this 'hot air'.

he must be very desperate, when shortly after sending " new arguments" to the ICJ now he is talking about Belgrade "considering recognition"...

poor K-albanians, you are obeying the wrong "leaders"...

but at the end of the day, it is your own choice, WHEN you start being realistic and accepting that international law is binding you too.

sooner or later you will have to accept it.

Well, if not the name (Thaçi) and not the underhanded way UDI was done (here US administration is to blame) than it could be 162 and not 62.

Negotiations did not lead to any result simply because Bush & Co. told Albanians, they do not need to negotiate and it was not even a big secret.

Nothing new about Americans supporting criminals just to get through with their agenda. Today the entire thing is rather a burden to them. But what happened is what happened. They promised a "short-cut" but could not deliver it.

I am curious to know, who does disagree with what I just said and why.
(Ataman, 16 July 2009 15:24)

I beg to disagree, from your false statements.

Albanians were the first to ask for negotiation for 10 years under Rugova, and they met Serbian arrogance, stubbornness and brutality. Indeed Albanians were the only ones in the region to choose peaceful resistance first, while everyone else was fighting each other to death. Thaci and co. are indeed a creation of Serbia's policies towards K-Alb, and they apparently, for those who are familiar with the region, were not the first choice of Albanians, unlike Milosevic who was the first choice of serbs. They were "forced" to be by Serbian policies. K-Alb embraced moderate leaders a decade before Serbs, and they did such even after the war.
And yet the serbian side in a most disgusting way accuses Albanians for extremism.

So to be more accurate, negotiations did not link any result because Serbian side did not want to negotiate until it was bombed to recession (had no choice) and created an environment that any negotiation was impossible.

As mass graves with Albanian bodies are still being found across Kosovo and Serbia, and brutal massacress are revealed, the facts are clear. K-Alb can never and will never trust Serbia again. There are no negotiations on this. If they are so naive to do so, (trust Serbia) they will die en masse, sooner or later, history has proven this fact to be 100% accurate. Albanians can not just sit there and pray to God that another Milosevic will not come along.

And one has to be either naive or cynical to excpect that Albanians play with the lives of their children in such a way.

Hope your curiosity is satisfied?

62 countries that recognize Kosova Independence are not a small number and even if it was at least most of them are very powetfull . I am happy that Prime Minister Thaçi is optimistic on Belgrade recognition lets hope!
(Mario Prostran, Croatia, 16 July 2009 11:16)
I am also very optimistic for Serbian Republic of Krajina but reality is much different. Unlike Albanians, Serbs had more rights to have independence (Genocide in NDH, mistreatment thath they had in independent Croatia etc.) We must never stop helping Serbs in Krajina to achieve what is their legal and legitimate right.

“Anyone who didn't fight or support the fight doesn't belong in K politics. (aRTA, 15 July 2009 14:48)”

Rugova (Rest in Peace) and Surroi are real politicians and their hands are clean of blood. Thaci is just a thug in a suit, none of my moderate Albanian friends support him.

“On the other hand, how many Serbs would agree to recognize Kosova in exchange for EU membership? Take a look at the polls…”

aRTA, last poll I saw said 70% of the Serbian population would NOT trade Kosovo for the EU, and at that time, 70% of the population was in favor of the EU, and that dropped to 61% this year. So I’d suggest maybe you look at the polls. EU support is going down, not up.

62 countries that recognize Kosova Independence are not a small number and even if it was at least most of them are very powetfull . I am happy that Prime Minister Thaçi is optimistic on Belgrade recognition lets hope!
(Mario Prostran, Croatia, 16 July 2009 11:16)

Well, if not the name (Thaçi) and not the underhanded way UDI was done (here US administration is to blame) than it could be 162 and not 62.

Negotiations did not lead to any result simply because Bush & Co. told Albanians, they do not need to negotiate and it was not even a big secret.

Nothing new about Americans supporting criminals just to get through with their agenda. Today the entire thing is rather a burden to them. But what happened is what happened. They promised a "short-cut" but could not deliver it.

I am curious to know, who does disagree with what I just said and why.

one thing is for sure, that Serbia is lucky country because of Thaqi's leadership!!! imagine having another really prime minister???

It's almost an embarrasment that my country finances, supports, and trains this guy. Other than comic relief and the man-crush he has with Holbrook, I see little use for paying attention to him.

(aRTA, 15 July 2009 14:48)

Also 99.99999% have had some sort of memories from Serbian rule over the decades.

WOW,Hold on, decades, Do you remember the ottomans and the communists?

This was very funny! Everyone knows how much Snake and his gangsters respect human rights. Milosevic was much better for Serbs and Albanians in Kosmet.

In spite of the numbers thrown by the last poster, I believe Kosovo Albanians are stuck at 62. The ICJ is a big hurdle they need to overpass. Though I am not a fan of the Serbian foreign minister, I admire his skills in practically bringing the recognitions to a standstill. Albanians had put too much faith on the Arab league members. And waving our flag too much, although we appreciate, it’s simply not helping with them very much. I predict, if Kosovo doesn't obtain another 30 recognitions before those hearings begin, they will have to deal in front of ICJ under a clout of weakness. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the end the best suggestion would arise from the West itself, where Albanian dominated parts of Kosovo join Albania, and Serb dominated parts join Serbia. Some swapping of cities and population may be necessary. Though I may be wrong, but the dream of multi/ethnic society in Kosovo, Albania, or Serbia was never meant to work. Forcing Albanians and Serbs to live together is like throwing a match in the gun powder and hoping it won’t explode. So, why wait for another war to settle scores, where peaceful separation of lands is the only sensible solution that may buy some peace time.