Dominican Republic recognizes Kosovo

Jeremic, care to tell us what other recognitions you've prevented?

Nice Beach, Beautiful Peaople, thank you.

;John Bosnich'-How many days' worth of Albanian drug-smuggling profits would it cost to buy one such meaningless "recognition"?

John, I suppose you ask members of Zemun Clan and other clans since you are in BG.

'...But not a security council vote thus a useless vote for Albanian interests.
(Canadian, 11 July 2009 17:50) '

So can you tell me why Mr. Jeremic is spending so much of his time and the Serbian government's money trying to prevent these recognitions?

Thanks! Slowly and surely the number is increasing... Love the Dominicanas!

Because they announced this on a Saturday, I declare this another huge victory in the defense of Kosovo.

Jeremic :-)

DR is poor and blah blah but who cares, they have a UN vote

...But not a security council vote thus a useless vote for Albanian interests.
(Canadian, 11 July 2009 17:50)

If Kosovo can get over half the UN members to recognise Kosovo, they can get observer membership in the UN and a UNSC veto can't stop it, just like the US couldn't veto Palestine from becoming an Observer. So every little helps, at least real general countries are starting to recognise instead of small pathetic countries.

Nice one! Pacolli is doing more than Kosovo FM Hyseni. This recognition flies in the face of Jeremic's pleading with the world not to further recognize Kosovo until ICJ makes a decision. It looks to me that the sole reason Serbia filled the ICJ case is to prevent further recognition, but that strategy has now failed. The number of recognitions is not as important as the fact that countries continue to recognize despite pending ICJ decision. Jeremic needs to come up with a different rational now. What will it be?

THE RUSSIAN AND CHINESE VETO AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL MEANS THAT KOSOVO WILL NEVER BE A STATE.
(dingdong, 11 July 2009 19:00)

You use the word NEVER too loosely.China has not mention veto regarding Kosovo. Russia has said that will support Serbian position,which it can also mean:Now that we got NIS we will play the game the way it suits us the best.

Being a state and being a UN member are 2 different things. Past examples have shown that.

P.S Don't bet on the Chinese; they have a history of abstaining.

This whole thing with the recognitions is really a side show that in the end doesn't matter. Yugoslavia was internationally recognized by everybody, and it is no more. In short, neither the Albanian view nor the Serbian view will be here nor there when it comes to recognitions or the ICJ.

These problems between Serbs and Albanians are too deep and complicated for anybody outside of the region to wave a magic wand at. The only way is for Serbs and Albanians to work on them together, and that has to start with small steps first.

How many days' worth of Albanian drug-smuggling profits would it cost to buy one such meaningless "recognition"?

If even all the nations in the world decided that day is night and that night is day, would it be so? Of course not. Likewise, the inalienable human right of the Serbian people to live in their own homeland cannot be revoked or extinguished by any other nation or nations, no matter how numerous they might be...

Is there no one in any of these 62 U.S.-hypnotized countries that believes in anything other than money and the naked fist of NATO killing power? May God have mercy on them if there are none among them who are prepared to "recognize" and speak the truth...

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade

if we get 91 recognitions we will be UN member .Russia can't use its veto because 51 % of UN Members are pro Kosovo.

Mr Thaci has somewhere to take a vacation in case he can't afford a ticket to the maldives LOL.

Let me introduce the albanian writers to an absolute reality. THE RUSSIAN AND CHINESE VETO AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL MEANS THAT KOSOVO WILL NEVER BE A STATE. You can have 180 recognitions but it changes nothing. This is the reality you need to deal with. Another is that when Tadic and co are voted out, things will get even more dicey for you :)

"DR is poor and blah blah but who cares, they have a UN vote"

...But not a security council vote thus a useless vote for Albanian interests.

If recognitions were so meaningless, then, why does Yeremic feel the need to waste the Serbian taxpayers money to freeze those recognitions, or why do you feel the need to downplay its importance to each of them.

Kosovo has already gotten the support of the most important countries in the world minus China.

As fare as Russia is concerned with a smaller size economy than of Mexicos, it'll bend anyway western powers want it to bend.

Some Albanians dont seem to understand that they can get 191 recognitions,but Russia has a veto for UN so the recognitions are worthless.
Also Spain and others will veto EU and NATO and all other organizations.
As long as the UNRSC 1244 is in force and declares our southern province as an inalienable part of Serbia recognistions by DR and Maledives or so are irrelevant.
We managed to keep Kosovo in a limbo,in fact an isolated black hole,de jure still part of Serbian territory,that`s what counts.
Now it is just occupied by foreign powers like the Czech Sudetenland.
I hope Albanians know what happened to the Sudeten Germans...

As for crime gangs in Belgrade, apparently, the clans you mention are generally out of action. But there are criminals in every country, of course. However, the reason I mention the mafia connection to Kosovo's recognitions drive is because the UN, Interpol, FBI and German intelligence have all found direct overlap of Albanian drug lords in the Kosovo government and vice versa. Hence my entirely appropriate linking of those mafia earnings with the pursuit of mafia-state shared interests. Let's stick to rational arguments. Jack the Ripper killed victims with a knife that he held in his hand, but that did not make everyone who had hands a suspect...

Best regards,

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade

Ian, so all of this effort to get over half UN members to recognise Kosovo is to achieve observer status? Wow, now that's news to me and it really is the hard way of achieving it.

I reckon if our ethnic Albanian citizens sat at the negotiating table with us and asked for observer status at the UN in our "more than autonomy, less than independence" offer we could have agreed to that. No problem as you don't need to be a state to become an observer.

Well done Dominican Republic for recognizing Kosovo's independence and as for pro-independence Kosovars I say to you CONGRATULATIONS for receiving further recognition.

gosh our albanians, you sure do think about jeremic a lot :))i don't know. what's that mean? why is that?

:)

Congratulations Kosova! This recognition came fast after Jordan's one. Slowly by surely it will be 72 than 82 than 92 (half of the number of countries) than 102...etc
I thought Jeremic - the #1 world travaler - went practically everywhere to prevent such recognitions. Or did visite only countries, who were against recognition anyway? Where is his effectivness?

"As for crime gangs in Belgrade, apparently, the clans you mention are generally out of action. But there are criminals in every country, of course. However, the reason I mention the mafia connection to Kosovo's recognitions drive is because the UN, Interpol, FBI and German intelligence have all found direct overlap of Albanian drug lords in the Kosovo government and vice versa. Hence my entirely appropriate linking of those mafia earnings with the pursuit of mafia-state shared interests. Let's stick to rational arguments. Jack the Ripper killed victims with a knife that he held in his hand, but that did not make everyone who had hands a suspect..."

Mind providing some credible links that support your wild claims?

As far as government and crime overlapping, past and present Serbian governments are an excellent example of that. Extreme, radical elements such as paramilitary groups (arkan) were responsible for the worst attoricities in Europe since WW2. And we all know where they are now.

John
You can tell all of those to someone that does not live and work around these territories but not Serbian people and others that are familiar with the situation around.
Zenum Clan responsible for murder of Mr.Djindjic is still running your state mate. Not long ago luck stopped Zemun clan leader from escaping from prision, killers of journalists are not yet found while B92 receives threats very often, these all are happening in front of your government.
As for corruption see the link below.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=06&dd=03&nav_id=59585

as it was on the news they were pressured by America, so you albanian say what you want it had nothing to do with the dominican republic

I reckon if our ethnic Albanian citizens sat at the negotiating table with us and asked for observer status at the UN in our "more than autonomy, less than independence" offer we could have agreed to that. No problem as you don't need to be a state to become an observer.
(Zoran, 11 July 2009 19:46)




Ha ha c'mon man you can do better than that, what kinda negotiations are you asking anyway?.
In feb 2008 Kosova has finished negotiations with Serbia, in fact Kosova is expected to have negotiations (totally different ones) on behalf of SAA but first it'll become a NATO member(even though practically Kosova is a NATO member since NATO is present there). Wait and see what Mr.Solana has to say in Prishtina.

Thank you Dominican Republic for the most important recognition up-to-date.

I hope Albanians know what happened to the Sudeten Germans...
(CG, 11 July 2009 20:55)

Yes, they got expelled from their home land because of the crimes of their government. Sounds like Kraina, vast parts of Bosnia and Kosovo. History repeats. Soon, we all will know the Albanian translation for Oluja. Ceku is already there.

@ Topic

Another Albanian victory and slap into the right-wing Serbian face. Keep on rolling....

Cheers!

CG, Vukovar was not different than Kosovo. Croats defended as good as they could themselves against an enemy who inheritated the weapons of Europe's 4th strongest army. In the end, they successfully liberated their home soil. That is impressive because this was more or less the only fight in the Balkan war where 2 armies were standing against each other. The fact that Serb forces defeated Albanian fighters in many events means nothing because the outnumbered, outgunned and encircled them. And now, Albanians can start with their military build-up. All of us who served in the Yugoslavian army knows how difficult it is to fight an enemy in that area. The Albanians were simply lacking of equipment. That will definitely change...

'Study your history books more conscientiously. Those Chinese abstentions were over non-sovereignty issues. '

After blocking South Korea's admission to the UN since 1949, China finally allowed it to join in 1991 by abstaining, rather than vetoing, its application. The situation was quite similar to that of Serbia and Kosovo - North Korea was claiming that South Korea was not an independent nation and that No. Korea represented the entire country.

In 1990, 118 of 155 addresses made by member states at the UN referred to the Korea question (71 in favor of admitting So. Korea, 10 against) - it no longer became feasible for China to hold out. (http://books.google.com/books?id=dB_8L4ysZrEC&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=south+korea+un+membership&source=bl&ots=UgJDBqRcyr&sig=rL4cGvlqzThh8WewkFR_c3pZah0&hl=en&ei=aPJZSrmgKJKNtgf-q4ndCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8

This needn't be discouraging for Kosovo - in the meantime, So. Korea developed a democratic society and a modern economy.

Another poverty nation bought by the us. Another defendant in the historic lawsuit to be filed by Serbia after Serbia wins the ICJ verdict. The Serbian politicians will be scrambling for beachfront property in the dominican republic in the damages settlement. If Haiti hasn't recognized Kosovo, Jeremic should contact them about adjusting their border with the dr since the dr doesn't respect international law. In fact, Jeremic should be talking to the Mexican government right now about border adjustments since the us doesn't respect international law.

Dominican Republic recognizes Kosovo.
--
Gues man where i am going this summer holiday
Dominican Republic man
Thank you so much

Some Albanians dont seem to understand that they can get 191 recognitions,but Russia has a veto for UN so the recognitions are worthless...etc.etc.

Some Serbs don't understand that Russia has other interests in the world than playing Jeremic games. If, for the sake of arguments, 191 recognize the new state, Russia will have no choice but to do so itself. This actually will come in the form of convincing your retarded politicians that fighting the inevitable is useless. Without Russia Serbia has nothing. Russia to save face will make it look like Serbia itself finally agreed to recognize Kosova. Serbia is not immune to pressures.

As fare as Russia is concerned with a smaller size economy than of Mexicos, it'll bend anyway western powers want it to bend.
(adrian, 11 July 2009 21:15)




You're right and let me tell you that since Mexico started catching and killing drug cartels in recent months its' economy has profited in billions of dollars.
United States requested that Mexico MUST do that because NAU(North American Union) is getting closer to becoming a reality with its' new currency called Amero.
Everyone's guess in here including mine is that once the Union is created Mexico's economy will explode(will get even stronger).

Vuk protected massive recognitions!!! Isn't happening something similar?

Good lack, dear wolf...

Bosnitch Journalist?:
How many days' worth of Albanian drug-smuggling profits would it cost to buy one such meaningless "recognition"?

Journalisim has ethics, making false allegations is unethical.

"if we get 91 recognitions we will be UN member .Russia can't use its veto because 51 % of UN Members are pro Kosovo.
(koreNYC, 11 July 2009 20:01)"

needless t say, I was squirming with embarrassment for you.

"If Kosovo can get over half the UN members to recognise Kosovo, they can get observer membership in the UN and a UNSC veto can't stop it, just like the US couldn't veto Palestine from becoming an Observer. So every little helps, at least real general countries are starting to recognise instead of small pathetic countries.
(Ian, UK, 11 July 2009 18:59) "

Sure. Palestine has observer status. Big deal. And the Palestinians continue to be pulverized every other day by Israel (USA's spoilt child).

so this is wonderful news, indeed, following right on the tracks of the jordanian recognition. yes, it is clear that jeremic's plan has backfired, that all the nations of the world, regardless of their own complex and sometimes contradictory self-interests, do not like to be bullied. esp. by this bully.

one way or another kosovo/a will end up in the un. sometimes i think we put too much emphasis on it -- it is not the determination about whether a country is indeed a "state" and it certainly does not guarantee success and prosperity. nevertheless the UN is the only game in town, and thus kosovo/a has to eventually join. it's only right.

i missed this whole little drama yesterday because of the anniversary of srebrenica, which i felt and feel needs to be center stage at least on july 11th.

congratulations, again, to the people of the dominican republic, to all the citizens of kosovo/a, and our frnds and allies around the world. #62, if my crunching the #s is correct. another reason to smile today.

roberto
frisco

if we get 91 recognitions we will be UN member .Russia can't use its veto because 51 % of UN Members are pro Kosovo.
(koreNYC, 11 July 2009 20:01)
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So tell me how you managed to get so many recommedations? If you did your mathematics, 91 recognitions amounts to 47% so you are still under your imaginary 51%. If you knew the rules of the UN you cannot become a state without UNSC approval.

Russia and China have already ruled that out so it really is game over. When will you realise that negotiations are the only path to lasting peace?

"P.S Don't bet on the Chinese; they have a history of abstaining.
(johny, 11 July 2009 19:33) "

Study your history books more conscientiously. Those Chinese abstentions were over non-sovereignty issues.

Where state sovereignty borders are concerned nobody beats the Chinese in tenacity and rigidity. They have good reason to be that way, and if you don't believe me, just ask the Taiwanese. Even Taipei's secret double-faced supporter the USA couldn't do anything.

to John Bosnitch:

Some of the journalists are at the top of speculation, so looks you!!!
An advice for you is to read the father of the Greek culture who among others say that "PELAZGIA" is the origin of "Ilirians" and today we have "Albanians" and their homeland is from dora di istria to Joanina and in the west covers whole Nish, Leskovac which actually is my exact homeland. No one independent book supports that Serbs were here before Albaninans!!!

As fare as Russia is concerned with a smaller size economy than of Mexicos, it'll bend anyway western powers want it to bend.
(adrian, 11 July 2009 21:15)

OK, when do you think Russia will bend?

Wow, similar size economy!!! Can you see all those Russians running for the border with Palin waiting for them?

Some Serbs don't understand that Russia has other interests in the world than playing Jeremic games. If, for the sake of arguments, 191 recognize the new state, Russia will have no choice but to do so itself. This actually will come in the form of convincing your retarded politicians that fighting the inevitable is useless. Without Russia Serbia has nothing. Russia to save face will make it look like Serbia itself finally agreed to recognize Kosova. Serbia is not immune to pressures.
(miri, 12 July 2009 03:11)

You are making my point.
Russias interest is to keep Kosovo part of Serbia by using its veto in the UN because they have recognized Abkhazia and Ossetia and it would hurt their interests in these cases in the oil-rich Transcaucasian region BIG TIME.
Also don`t forget South Stream and the wisely made NIS purchase.
Spain,Slovakia and Romania will block any EU and NATO membership while all other organisations are closed for you...
And for pressure,forget it ,why do you think Biden came to Belgrade to beg us to get into NATO,its clear he doesn`t want Serbia to become Russias zone of influence in SE Europe...
You lost and you know it!

John, I suppose you ask members of Zemun Clan and other clans since you are in BG.
(Olf, 11 July 2009 20:47)

Are you trying to say that Zemun clan bribed them on your behalf? Now you are stretching it.

"After blocking South Korea's admission to the UN since 1949, China finally allowed it to join in 1991 by abstaining, rather than vetoing, its application. The situation was quite similar to that of Serbia and Kosovo - North Korea was claiming that South Korea was not an independent nation and that No. Korea represented the entire country.

In 1990, 118 of 155 addresses made by member states at the UN referred to the Korea question (71 in favor of admitting So. Korea, 10 against) - it no longer became feasible for China to hold out. ([link]+korea+un+membership&source=bl&ots=UgJDBqRcyr&sig=rL4cGvlqzThh8WewkFR_c3pZah0&hl=en&ei=aPJZSrmgKJKNtgf-q4ndCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8

This needn't be discouraging for Kosovo - in the meantime, So. Korea developed a democratic society and a modern economy.
(Amer, 12 July 2009 16:42) "

You conveniently overlooked the following material facts that differentiated the Koreas completely from Kosovo:

1. BOTH Koreas see themselves as ONE nation to be reunited in the future. Therefore this does not go against the Chinese view about the inviolability of state borders and state sovereignty. Kosovo however broke away from a recognized UN member state that is Serbia.

2. Both Koreas were admitted at the same time. Serbia is however already a UN member when Kosovo did the UDI, which also violated UN Resolution 1244 that respected Belgrade's sovereignty.

So don't hold your breath for the Chinese to concede on Kosovo. Why would they want to sign their own death warrants over Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang?

so this is wonderful news, indeed, following right on the tracks of the jordanian recognition. yes, it is clear that jeremic's plan has backfired, that all the nations of the world, regardless of their own complex and sometimes contradictory self-interests, do not like to be bullied. esp. by this bully.

one way or another kosovo/a will end up in the un. sometimes i think we put too much emphasis on it -- it is not the determination about whether a country is indeed a "state" and it certainly does not guarantee success and prosperity. nevertheless the UN is the only game in town, and thus kosovo/a has to eventually join. it's only right.

i missed this whole little drama yesterday because of the anniversary of srebrenica, which i felt and feel needs to be center stage at least on july 11th.

congratulations, again, to the people of the dominican republic, to all the citizens of kosovo/a, and our frnds and allies around the world. #62, if my crunching the #s is correct. another reason to smile today.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 12 July 2009 18:27)

'roberto' from 'frisco', now unless you have been living under a rock since 18 February last year, the vast majority of recognitions for Pristina's UDD has come with a mixture of threats, force, coercion and bribery.

Serbia which has little clout economically or politically on the world stage has used diplomacy and the weight of international law in solidifying its argument for upholding its territorial integrity and sovereignty. Belgrade has been very sucessful as the vast majority of the 60 odd nations that recognised caved into pressure from the West. On this basis, Serbia has already won the moral and political argument.

Many progressive and socialist states around the world see Kosovo for what it is, a US Imperialist protectorate , a pet project. Illegally carved out of Yugoslavia by force. Which is why the vast majority of states will not touch it with a barge pole, Palestine included.

He,hee...this is significant!
One banana republic, in this case "CHIQUITA BANANA" republic recognises another banana republic, in this case NATO banana republic.
Think I will have to reconsider another vitamine and fruit supply.

@no 40

You mean like in 98/99 when Albanians bravely went on a summer vacation in surrounding countries on their tractors?
Believe me,your bragging doesn`t scare anyone of us...

DR is poor and blah blah but who cares, they have a UN vote
(aRTA, 11 July 2009 17:19)

They are as poor as Kosov"a" is today. The only reason they're going for the underdog is due to the fact that Puerto Rico is "that" close to them & the US decided to choose PR over the DR due to the PEOPLE that live there.

Doesn't THAT say it all???

This is a joke!

Let me introduce the albanian writers to an absolute reality. THE RUSSIAN AND CHINESE VETO AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL MEANS THAT KOSOVO WILL NEVER BE A STATE. You can have 180 recognitions but it changes nothing. This is the reality you need to deal with. Another is that when Tadic and co are voted out, things will get even more dicey for you :)

How many days' worth of Albanian drug-smuggling profits would it cost to buy one such meaningless "recognition"?

If even all the nations in the world decided that day is night and that night is day, would it be so? Of course not. Likewise, the inalienable human right of the Serbian people to live in their own homeland cannot be revoked or extinguished by any other nation or nations, no matter how numerous they might be...

Is there no one in any of these 62 U.S.-hypnotized countries that believes in anything other than money and the naked fist of NATO killing power? May God have mercy on them if there are none among them who are prepared to "recognize" and speak the truth...

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade

"DR is poor and blah blah but who cares, they have a UN vote"

...But not a security council vote thus a useless vote for Albanian interests.

Ian, so all of this effort to get over half UN members to recognise Kosovo is to achieve observer status? Wow, now that's news to me and it really is the hard way of achieving it.

I reckon if our ethnic Albanian citizens sat at the negotiating table with us and asked for observer status at the UN in our "more than autonomy, less than independence" offer we could have agreed to that. No problem as you don't need to be a state to become an observer.

Some Albanians dont seem to understand that they can get 191 recognitions,but Russia has a veto for UN so the recognitions are worthless.
Also Spain and others will veto EU and NATO and all other organizations.
As long as the UNRSC 1244 is in force and declares our southern province as an inalienable part of Serbia recognistions by DR and Maledives or so are irrelevant.
We managed to keep Kosovo in a limbo,in fact an isolated black hole,de jure still part of Serbian territory,that`s what counts.
Now it is just occupied by foreign powers like the Czech Sudetenland.
I hope Albanians know what happened to the Sudeten Germans...

As for crime gangs in Belgrade, apparently, the clans you mention are generally out of action. But there are criminals in every country, of course. However, the reason I mention the mafia connection to Kosovo's recognitions drive is because the UN, Interpol, FBI and German intelligence have all found direct overlap of Albanian drug lords in the Kosovo government and vice versa. Hence my entirely appropriate linking of those mafia earnings with the pursuit of mafia-state shared interests. Let's stick to rational arguments. Jack the Ripper killed victims with a knife that he held in his hand, but that did not make everyone who had hands a suspect...

Best regards,

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade

gosh our albanians, you sure do think about jeremic a lot :))i don't know. what's that mean? why is that?

:)

as it was on the news they were pressured by America, so you albanian say what you want it had nothing to do with the dominican republic

This whole thing with the recognitions is really a side show that in the end doesn't matter. Yugoslavia was internationally recognized by everybody, and it is no more. In short, neither the Albanian view nor the Serbian view will be here nor there when it comes to recognitions or the ICJ.

These problems between Serbs and Albanians are too deep and complicated for anybody outside of the region to wave a magic wand at. The only way is for Serbs and Albanians to work on them together, and that has to start with small steps first.

Another poverty nation bought by the us. Another defendant in the historic lawsuit to be filed by Serbia after Serbia wins the ICJ verdict. The Serbian politicians will be scrambling for beachfront property in the dominican republic in the damages settlement. If Haiti hasn't recognized Kosovo, Jeremic should contact them about adjusting their border with the dr since the dr doesn't respect international law. In fact, Jeremic should be talking to the Mexican government right now about border adjustments since the us doesn't respect international law.

if we get 91 recognitions we will be UN member .Russia can't use its veto because 51 % of UN Members are pro Kosovo.

;John Bosnich'-How many days' worth of Albanian drug-smuggling profits would it cost to buy one such meaningless "recognition"?

John, I suppose you ask members of Zemun Clan and other clans since you are in BG.

He,hee...this is significant!
One banana republic, in this case "CHIQUITA BANANA" republic recognises another banana republic, in this case NATO banana republic.
Think I will have to reconsider another vitamine and fruit supply.

THE RUSSIAN AND CHINESE VETO AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL MEANS THAT KOSOVO WILL NEVER BE A STATE.
(dingdong, 11 July 2009 19:00)

You use the word NEVER too loosely.China has not mention veto regarding Kosovo. Russia has said that will support Serbian position,which it can also mean:Now that we got NIS we will play the game the way it suits us the best.

If recognitions were so meaningless, then, why does Yeremic feel the need to waste the Serbian taxpayers money to freeze those recognitions, or why do you feel the need to downplay its importance to each of them.

Kosovo has already gotten the support of the most important countries in the world minus China.

As fare as Russia is concerned with a smaller size economy than of Mexicos, it'll bend anyway western powers want it to bend.

Jeremic, care to tell us what other recognitions you've prevented?

Some Serbs don't understand that Russia has other interests in the world than playing Jeremic games. If, for the sake of arguments, 191 recognize the new state, Russia will have no choice but to do so itself. This actually will come in the form of convincing your retarded politicians that fighting the inevitable is useless. Without Russia Serbia has nothing. Russia to save face will make it look like Serbia itself finally agreed to recognize Kosova. Serbia is not immune to pressures.
(miri, 12 July 2009 03:11)

You are making my point.
Russias interest is to keep Kosovo part of Serbia by using its veto in the UN because they have recognized Abkhazia and Ossetia and it would hurt their interests in these cases in the oil-rich Transcaucasian region BIG TIME.
Also don`t forget South Stream and the wisely made NIS purchase.
Spain,Slovakia and Romania will block any EU and NATO membership while all other organisations are closed for you...
And for pressure,forget it ,why do you think Biden came to Belgrade to beg us to get into NATO,its clear he doesn`t want Serbia to become Russias zone of influence in SE Europe...
You lost and you know it!

Nice Beach, Beautiful Peaople, thank you.

Well done Dominican Republic for recognizing Kosovo's independence and as for pro-independence Kosovars I say to you CONGRATULATIONS for receiving further recognition.

@no 40

You mean like in 98/99 when Albanians bravely went on a summer vacation in surrounding countries on their tractors?
Believe me,your bragging doesn`t scare anyone of us...

...But not a security council vote thus a useless vote for Albanian interests.
(Canadian, 11 July 2009 17:50)

If Kosovo can get over half the UN members to recognise Kosovo, they can get observer membership in the UN and a UNSC veto can't stop it, just like the US couldn't veto Palestine from becoming an Observer. So every little helps, at least real general countries are starting to recognise instead of small pathetic countries.

Because they announced this on a Saturday, I declare this another huge victory in the defense of Kosovo.

Jeremic :-)

DR is poor and blah blah but who cares, they have a UN vote

if we get 91 recognitions we will be UN member .Russia can't use its veto because 51 % of UN Members are pro Kosovo.
(koreNYC, 11 July 2009 20:01)
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So tell me how you managed to get so many recommedations? If you did your mathematics, 91 recognitions amounts to 47% so you are still under your imaginary 51%. If you knew the rules of the UN you cannot become a state without UNSC approval.

Russia and China have already ruled that out so it really is game over. When will you realise that negotiations are the only path to lasting peace?

As fare as Russia is concerned with a smaller size economy than of Mexicos, it'll bend anyway western powers want it to bend.
(adrian, 11 July 2009 21:15)

OK, when do you think Russia will bend?

Wow, similar size economy!!! Can you see all those Russians running for the border with Palin waiting for them?

John, I suppose you ask members of Zemun Clan and other clans since you are in BG.
(Olf, 11 July 2009 20:47)

Are you trying to say that Zemun clan bribed them on your behalf? Now you are stretching it.

"If Kosovo can get over half the UN members to recognise Kosovo, they can get observer membership in the UN and a UNSC veto can't stop it, just like the US couldn't veto Palestine from becoming an Observer. So every little helps, at least real general countries are starting to recognise instead of small pathetic countries.
(Ian, UK, 11 July 2009 18:59) "

Sure. Palestine has observer status. Big deal. And the Palestinians continue to be pulverized every other day by Israel (USA's spoilt child).

Thanks! Slowly and surely the number is increasing... Love the Dominicanas!

"P.S Don't bet on the Chinese; they have a history of abstaining.
(johny, 11 July 2009 19:33) "

Study your history books more conscientiously. Those Chinese abstentions were over non-sovereignty issues.

Where state sovereignty borders are concerned nobody beats the Chinese in tenacity and rigidity. They have good reason to be that way, and if you don't believe me, just ask the Taiwanese. Even Taipei's secret double-faced supporter the USA couldn't do anything.

Mr Thaci has somewhere to take a vacation in case he can't afford a ticket to the maldives LOL.

so this is wonderful news, indeed, following right on the tracks of the jordanian recognition. yes, it is clear that jeremic's plan has backfired, that all the nations of the world, regardless of their own complex and sometimes contradictory self-interests, do not like to be bullied. esp. by this bully.

one way or another kosovo/a will end up in the un. sometimes i think we put too much emphasis on it -- it is not the determination about whether a country is indeed a "state" and it certainly does not guarantee success and prosperity. nevertheless the UN is the only game in town, and thus kosovo/a has to eventually join. it's only right.

i missed this whole little drama yesterday because of the anniversary of srebrenica, which i felt and feel needs to be center stage at least on july 11th.

congratulations, again, to the people of the dominican republic, to all the citizens of kosovo/a, and our frnds and allies around the world. #62, if my crunching the #s is correct. another reason to smile today.

roberto
frisco

"if we get 91 recognitions we will be UN member .Russia can't use its veto because 51 % of UN Members are pro Kosovo.
(koreNYC, 11 July 2009 20:01)"

needless t say, I was squirming with embarrassment for you.

Nice one! Pacolli is doing more than Kosovo FM Hyseni. This recognition flies in the face of Jeremic's pleading with the world not to further recognize Kosovo until ICJ makes a decision. It looks to me that the sole reason Serbia filled the ICJ case is to prevent further recognition, but that strategy has now failed. The number of recognitions is not as important as the fact that countries continue to recognize despite pending ICJ decision. Jeremic needs to come up with a different rational now. What will it be?

'...But not a security council vote thus a useless vote for Albanian interests.
(Canadian, 11 July 2009 17:50) '

So can you tell me why Mr. Jeremic is spending so much of his time and the Serbian government's money trying to prevent these recognitions?

CG, Vukovar was not different than Kosovo. Croats defended as good as they could themselves against an enemy who inheritated the weapons of Europe's 4th strongest army. In the end, they successfully liberated their home soil. That is impressive because this was more or less the only fight in the Balkan war where 2 armies were standing against each other. The fact that Serb forces defeated Albanian fighters in many events means nothing because the outnumbered, outgunned and encircled them. And now, Albanians can start with their military build-up. All of us who served in the Yugoslavian army knows how difficult it is to fight an enemy in that area. The Albanians were simply lacking of equipment. That will definitely change...

Being a state and being a UN member are 2 different things. Past examples have shown that.

P.S Don't bet on the Chinese; they have a history of abstaining.

Some Albanians dont seem to understand that they can get 191 recognitions,but Russia has a veto for UN so the recognitions are worthless...etc.etc.

Some Serbs don't understand that Russia has other interests in the world than playing Jeremic games. If, for the sake of arguments, 191 recognize the new state, Russia will have no choice but to do so itself. This actually will come in the form of convincing your retarded politicians that fighting the inevitable is useless. Without Russia Serbia has nothing. Russia to save face will make it look like Serbia itself finally agreed to recognize Kosova. Serbia is not immune to pressures.

"After blocking South Korea's admission to the UN since 1949, China finally allowed it to join in 1991 by abstaining, rather than vetoing, its application. The situation was quite similar to that of Serbia and Kosovo - North Korea was claiming that South Korea was not an independent nation and that No. Korea represented the entire country.

In 1990, 118 of 155 addresses made by member states at the UN referred to the Korea question (71 in favor of admitting So. Korea, 10 against) - it no longer became feasible for China to hold out. ([link]+korea+un+membership&source=bl&ots=UgJDBqRcyr&sig=rL4cGvlqzThh8WewkFR_c3pZah0&hl=en&ei=aPJZSrmgKJKNtgf-q4ndCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8

This needn't be discouraging for Kosovo - in the meantime, So. Korea developed a democratic society and a modern economy.
(Amer, 12 July 2009 16:42) "

You conveniently overlooked the following material facts that differentiated the Koreas completely from Kosovo:

1. BOTH Koreas see themselves as ONE nation to be reunited in the future. Therefore this does not go against the Chinese view about the inviolability of state borders and state sovereignty. Kosovo however broke away from a recognized UN member state that is Serbia.

2. Both Koreas were admitted at the same time. Serbia is however already a UN member when Kosovo did the UDI, which also violated UN Resolution 1244 that respected Belgrade's sovereignty.

So don't hold your breath for the Chinese to concede on Kosovo. Why would they want to sign their own death warrants over Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang?

"As for crime gangs in Belgrade, apparently, the clans you mention are generally out of action. But there are criminals in every country, of course. However, the reason I mention the mafia connection to Kosovo's recognitions drive is because the UN, Interpol, FBI and German intelligence have all found direct overlap of Albanian drug lords in the Kosovo government and vice versa. Hence my entirely appropriate linking of those mafia earnings with the pursuit of mafia-state shared interests. Let's stick to rational arguments. Jack the Ripper killed victims with a knife that he held in his hand, but that did not make everyone who had hands a suspect..."

Mind providing some credible links that support your wild claims?

As far as government and crime overlapping, past and present Serbian governments are an excellent example of that. Extreme, radical elements such as paramilitary groups (arkan) were responsible for the worst attoricities in Europe since WW2. And we all know where they are now.

I reckon if our ethnic Albanian citizens sat at the negotiating table with us and asked for observer status at the UN in our "more than autonomy, less than independence" offer we could have agreed to that. No problem as you don't need to be a state to become an observer.
(Zoran, 11 July 2009 19:46)




Ha ha c'mon man you can do better than that, what kinda negotiations are you asking anyway?.
In feb 2008 Kosova has finished negotiations with Serbia, in fact Kosova is expected to have negotiations (totally different ones) on behalf of SAA but first it'll become a NATO member(even though practically Kosova is a NATO member since NATO is present there). Wait and see what Mr.Solana has to say in Prishtina.

Thank you Dominican Republic for the most important recognition up-to-date.

I hope Albanians know what happened to the Sudeten Germans...
(CG, 11 July 2009 20:55)

Yes, they got expelled from their home land because of the crimes of their government. Sounds like Kraina, vast parts of Bosnia and Kosovo. History repeats. Soon, we all will know the Albanian translation for Oluja. Ceku is already there.

@ Topic

Another Albanian victory and slap into the right-wing Serbian face. Keep on rolling....

Cheers!

Dominican Republic recognizes Kosovo.
--
Gues man where i am going this summer holiday
Dominican Republic man
Thank you so much

DR is poor and blah blah but who cares, they have a UN vote
(aRTA, 11 July 2009 17:19)

They are as poor as Kosov"a" is today. The only reason they're going for the underdog is due to the fact that Puerto Rico is "that" close to them & the US decided to choose PR over the DR due to the PEOPLE that live there.

Doesn't THAT say it all???

This is a joke!

Congratulations Kosova! This recognition came fast after Jordan's one. Slowly by surely it will be 72 than 82 than 92 (half of the number of countries) than 102...etc
I thought Jeremic - the #1 world travaler - went practically everywhere to prevent such recognitions. Or did visite only countries, who were against recognition anyway? Where is his effectivness?

John
You can tell all of those to someone that does not live and work around these territories but not Serbian people and others that are familiar with the situation around.
Zenum Clan responsible for murder of Mr.Djindjic is still running your state mate. Not long ago luck stopped Zemun clan leader from escaping from prision, killers of journalists are not yet found while B92 receives threats very often, these all are happening in front of your government.
As for corruption see the link below.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2009&mm=06&dd=03&nav_id=59585

'Study your history books more conscientiously. Those Chinese abstentions were over non-sovereignty issues. '

After blocking South Korea's admission to the UN since 1949, China finally allowed it to join in 1991 by abstaining, rather than vetoing, its application. The situation was quite similar to that of Serbia and Kosovo - North Korea was claiming that South Korea was not an independent nation and that No. Korea represented the entire country.

In 1990, 118 of 155 addresses made by member states at the UN referred to the Korea question (71 in favor of admitting So. Korea, 10 against) - it no longer became feasible for China to hold out. (http://books.google.com/books?id=dB_8L4ysZrEC&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=south+korea+un+membership&source=bl&ots=UgJDBqRcyr&sig=rL4cGvlqzThh8WewkFR_c3pZah0&hl=en&ei=aPJZSrmgKJKNtgf-q4ndCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8

This needn't be discouraging for Kosovo - in the meantime, So. Korea developed a democratic society and a modern economy.

As fare as Russia is concerned with a smaller size economy than of Mexicos, it'll bend anyway western powers want it to bend.
(adrian, 11 July 2009 21:15)




You're right and let me tell you that since Mexico started catching and killing drug cartels in recent months its' economy has profited in billions of dollars.
United States requested that Mexico MUST do that because NAU(North American Union) is getting closer to becoming a reality with its' new currency called Amero.
Everyone's guess in here including mine is that once the Union is created Mexico's economy will explode(will get even stronger).

so this is wonderful news, indeed, following right on the tracks of the jordanian recognition. yes, it is clear that jeremic's plan has backfired, that all the nations of the world, regardless of their own complex and sometimes contradictory self-interests, do not like to be bullied. esp. by this bully.

one way or another kosovo/a will end up in the un. sometimes i think we put too much emphasis on it -- it is not the determination about whether a country is indeed a "state" and it certainly does not guarantee success and prosperity. nevertheless the UN is the only game in town, and thus kosovo/a has to eventually join. it's only right.

i missed this whole little drama yesterday because of the anniversary of srebrenica, which i felt and feel needs to be center stage at least on july 11th.

congratulations, again, to the people of the dominican republic, to all the citizens of kosovo/a, and our frnds and allies around the world. #62, if my crunching the #s is correct. another reason to smile today.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 12 July 2009 18:27)

'roberto' from 'frisco', now unless you have been living under a rock since 18 February last year, the vast majority of recognitions for Pristina's UDD has come with a mixture of threats, force, coercion and bribery.

Serbia which has little clout economically or politically on the world stage has used diplomacy and the weight of international law in solidifying its argument for upholding its territorial integrity and sovereignty. Belgrade has been very sucessful as the vast majority of the 60 odd nations that recognised caved into pressure from the West. On this basis, Serbia has already won the moral and political argument.

Many progressive and socialist states around the world see Kosovo for what it is, a US Imperialist protectorate , a pet project. Illegally carved out of Yugoslavia by force. Which is why the vast majority of states will not touch it with a barge pole, Palestine included.

Bosnitch Journalist?:
How many days' worth of Albanian drug-smuggling profits would it cost to buy one such meaningless "recognition"?

Journalisim has ethics, making false allegations is unethical.

Vuk protected massive recognitions!!! Isn't happening something similar?

Good lack, dear wolf...

to John Bosnitch:

Some of the journalists are at the top of speculation, so looks you!!!
An advice for you is to read the father of the Greek culture who among others say that "PELAZGIA" is the origin of "Ilirians" and today we have "Albanians" and their homeland is from dora di istria to Joanina and in the west covers whole Nish, Leskovac which actually is my exact homeland. No one independent book supports that Serbs were here before Albaninans!!!