Police officer recalls Berisha murders

"Without stating who had given the orders, he said that he had then participated in loading some “90 to 100” bodies, including “four- and five-year-old children,” on to the truck."

VJ and company broke all International law that were founded, yet the same ppl who supported these atrocities now cry for International law. Only a fool would think somehow ICJ will come to their "advisory opinion" in favor of Serbia.

And....Serbs still want to return their security forces into the province. The Serbian officials are aware that the only way they will take control over Kosovo is through an armed conflict, otherwise you can negotiate for a thousand years and Kosovars will never agree to give up their sovranity! Forget confederation; forget some loose union of two states it will never happen because Kosovars simply don’t trust the Serbs.

It makes me sad to admit it but in the end we will have another war maybe not in the near future but definitely within fifty years. On this website I don’t see Serbs expressing remorse for their horrible deeds, contrary I see bitterness in them for loosing the war and a definite impression that should Serbs get another chance they will do exactly what they did in the past but this time it will be a thousand times worst. This is why US and European nations granted Kosovo independence.

This makes me sick to my stomach.
But I'm glad the guy admitted that the crime took place.

I feel sorry for innocents trapped in this kind of war situation. And it must be commanders, not just ordinary soldiers that are punished for these types of war crimes.

Kosovo should sue Serbia.

"Without stating who had given the orders, he said that he had then participated in loading some “90 to 100” bodies, including “four- and five-year-old children,” on to the truck. "

Ethnic cleansing?


"According to the indictment, Serbian police killed more than 45 members of the Berisha family in the café."

There is a reat reason nobody takes Serbia seriously in human rights, freedom of speech or any other.

Anyone who murders women & kids is a war criminal irrespective of nationality.

Lock 'em up. Throw alway the key.

These berishas killed a lot of Serbs during the uck terrorist campaign. If it wasn't for our Serb forces to protect us many more Serbs would have been murdered or kidnapped by uck terrorists.

Hey Ratko how many Serbs did these four and five year olds kill???

this is why we will NEVER show any mercy towards the serbian police, army/soldiers, or serbian govermental agency representatives!!!

And yet, Serb politicians pertain to lecture the world about human rights and international law! A hypocrisy of colossal magnitude!
`Death and life are in the power of the tongue' (Proverbs 18:21)... and the very same people, who govern Serbia today, chose silence when death and killings were committed on their name!

The famous Russian writer Nadezhda Mandelstam says: “I decided to scream...Silence is the real crime against humanity”. And you know the greatest irony is that still, even today, Serbs continue to remain silent; continue to defy the terrible truth about a bitter part of their very recent history! And those who do not learn from their history are bound to be wrapped in it.

ataman, i hope you can get to read this.

You are sitll defending a side that screamed there was no ethnic cleansing, till today.
I am still sure this is just the icing on the cake.

Nice comments # 5

I would add one thing here for the Albanian camp to ponder. As horrible as these crimes were, at least the perpetrators were punished. where are the punishments for the Serbian victims?

where are the punishments for the Serbian victims?
Nicholas Klinsman,

between the pages of Del Pontes book, something about a "yellow" house with a capacity (a good sized gym) between 200-500 people, sourced by an un named jeornalist "who was there" later she heard that "from someone, who was there"

Peter, Sydney: "Anyone who murders women & kids is a war criminal irrespective of nationality.
Lock 'em up. Throw alway the key."

I couldn't agree more!

Extremely shameful and I agree with Ataman here 100%. Velibor is a true Serbian hero for bringing what happened to light and to B92 for reporting on it.

Now if only members of the Albanian population could come forward with information about crimes committed against the Serbian people without fear of death or persecution, the reconciliation process might begin…

I am really outraged at the comments #1 and #2 because they were made with malicious trolling intent. I.e. forcing "Serbian" gang into argument and thus make us look bad because we would look like defending really bad criminals.

I think, most if not all Serbian sympatisers here feel sorry, there is no capital punishment in Hague for such crimes.

But we have to see the malicious intent behind the comments like #1 and #2. No need to argue or defend anything, just tell them, we see through the malicious intent, it did not land and they do a big disservice for their own.

Thanks for considering it and shame on eTrollers who try to use such a sad event and victims of savage civil war to own little agenda.

What is pity, that once received the sentence in Hague the criminals can't be tried in Serbia again for the same and their property confiscated.

Could happen, the criminals got lucky with Hague - in Serbia their property would be confiscated and they could get a longer sentence. Reminds me of a recent case when a criminal run away from Croatian courts - and got in Serbia 8 years more than what he would get in Croatia.

These berishas killed a lot of Serbs during the uck terrorist campaign. If it wasn't for our Serb forces to protect us many more Serbs would have been murdered or kidnapped by uck terrorists.

"However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?"
Michael

How can Serbs live in Kosovo with these people and that behaviour? It can't happen. They use all negative news about Serbs to justify stealing our territory. They know albanians killed Serbs but they don't care.

What happend to the propaganda machine Albanians used to call B92? You see how Serbs deal with warcrimes. Albanians should learn something from this. Until the day that Albanians start arresting and putting away their own killers, instead of electing them for office, can there be peace.
Besides this does not justify independence. In that case Serbia should have expelled every singel Albanian after WW2.

"From 1941 to 1944, ethnic Albanians serving the Italian and German occupation authorities killed some 10,000 Serbs; the worst of suffer were Serbs in Pec and Vitomirica where ethnic Albanian volunteers formations wrought terror: before executing their victims they gouged out their eyes, sliced off their ears and severed other parts of their bodies. Dozens of Orthodox churches were destroyed, set afire and looted, priests and monks were arrested and killed and many Orthodox cemeteries desecrated."

Dreni:

Fair enough...nore shall we!

However, I condem the killing of any child, and that includes albanian children.

However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?

However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?
(Michael, 9 July 2009 18:30)

Because,we never killed children.

You are sitll defending a side that screamed there was no ethnic cleansing, till today.

I am still sure this is just the icing on the cake.

(drink, 9 July 2009 15:53)


This is not about me, but about Berisha family. It was clearly said: "most if not all Serbian sympatisers here feel sorry, there is no capital punishment in Hague for such crimes."

I think, you are aware: in many cases during any civil war the "ethnic" or "political" reasons are merely an excuse to proceed with lowly animal instincts (rape) or criminal self-enrichment.

I am not fan of capital punishment, but sometimes I am not so sure. In this case I am very sorry that the prisons in Hague are way to luxury place to spend 20-30 years.

I think, this is good enough. If that's "defending" for you, I don't know, what is else. Capital punishment is not my favorite, sorry. GULAG would be a better place than a luxury prison.

"...the criminals got lucky with Hague..."

Please... be serious.

There is no evidence to suggest that Serbia feels sorry for crimes committed against the Albanian population, except to the extent of publicity and outrage generated by such crimes.

I would be happy if you could prove me wrong.

to those who suport crime
I dont know how can you read the story told by an ex police officer and still judge the dead woman and children for being albanians.
just think for a second if serbia stand a smallest chance living with kosovo again!
I wouldnt forget even if I forgive at list we wont forget this crimes.

'"However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?"
Michael '

Perhaps because there haven't been any Albanians charged with killing children?

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I personally don't remember seeing anything about it.

"However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?
(Michael, 9 July 2009 18:30)

Because,we never killed children.
(ardi, 10 July 2009 09:17) "

Is a silly statement to make. 'Monsters' are not unique to any one society or ethnic group.

Can think of 2 instances off-hand which were most probably committed by K-albanians:

1: Automatic fire on a bunch of serb kids swimming in the Bistrica back in 2003 by someone resulted in the deaths of 2 & serious injury to 5 more.

2: Bombing of that bus convoy packed with serb women & kids back in 2001 killing 11 - 4 of whom were women & including a 2 year old child.


"Perhaps because there haven't been any Albanians charged with killing children?

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I personally don't remember seeing anything about it.
(Amer, 10 July 2009 02:31) "

K-albanian was charged with the bombing but was released for 'lack of sufficient evidence - as you probably now recall.

Does happen. Has happened. Just that normal people don't like to be reminded that 'one of their own' could possibly be responsible for such an outrage.

But personally sincerely doubt that either faction has deliberately targetted kids.

Its very simple the very GOAL of Serbia is to prevent that because that is fighting so Kosova don't be as a UN member ....But hey all that is already proved and sign sealed if not this year or next 100 years that it will happen every crime what is done it will be open to prosecuted so CASE IT WILL BE OPEN TILL JUSTICE IS DONE..

These berishas killed a lot of Serbs during the uck terrorist campaign. If it wasn't for our Serb forces to protect us many more Serbs would have been murdered or kidnapped by uck terrorists.

I am really outraged at the comments #1 and #2 because they were made with malicious trolling intent. I.e. forcing "Serbian" gang into argument and thus make us look bad because we would look like defending really bad criminals.

I think, most if not all Serbian sympatisers here feel sorry, there is no capital punishment in Hague for such crimes.

But we have to see the malicious intent behind the comments like #1 and #2. No need to argue or defend anything, just tell them, we see through the malicious intent, it did not land and they do a big disservice for their own.

Thanks for considering it and shame on eTrollers who try to use such a sad event and victims of savage civil war to own little agenda.

Nice comments # 5

I would add one thing here for the Albanian camp to ponder. As horrible as these crimes were, at least the perpetrators were punished. where are the punishments for the Serbian victims?

Dreni:

Fair enough...nore shall we!

However, I condem the killing of any child, and that includes albanian children.

However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?

And....Serbs still want to return their security forces into the province. The Serbian officials are aware that the only way they will take control over Kosovo is through an armed conflict, otherwise you can negotiate for a thousand years and Kosovars will never agree to give up their sovranity! Forget confederation; forget some loose union of two states it will never happen because Kosovars simply don’t trust the Serbs.

It makes me sad to admit it but in the end we will have another war maybe not in the near future but definitely within fifty years. On this website I don’t see Serbs expressing remorse for their horrible deeds, contrary I see bitterness in them for loosing the war and a definite impression that should Serbs get another chance they will do exactly what they did in the past but this time it will be a thousand times worst. This is why US and European nations granted Kosovo independence.

What happend to the propaganda machine Albanians used to call B92? You see how Serbs deal with warcrimes. Albanians should learn something from this. Until the day that Albanians start arresting and putting away their own killers, instead of electing them for office, can there be peace.
Besides this does not justify independence. In that case Serbia should have expelled every singel Albanian after WW2.

"From 1941 to 1944, ethnic Albanians serving the Italian and German occupation authorities killed some 10,000 Serbs; the worst of suffer were Serbs in Pec and Vitomirica where ethnic Albanian volunteers formations wrought terror: before executing their victims they gouged out their eyes, sliced off their ears and severed other parts of their bodies. Dozens of Orthodox churches were destroyed, set afire and looted, priests and monks were arrested and killed and many Orthodox cemeteries desecrated."

Extremely shameful and I agree with Ataman here 100%. Velibor is a true Serbian hero for bringing what happened to light and to B92 for reporting on it.

Now if only members of the Albanian population could come forward with information about crimes committed against the Serbian people without fear of death or persecution, the reconciliation process might begin…

ataman, i hope you can get to read this.

You are sitll defending a side that screamed there was no ethnic cleansing, till today.
I am still sure this is just the icing on the cake.

this is why we will NEVER show any mercy towards the serbian police, army/soldiers, or serbian govermental agency representatives!!!

"However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?"
Michael

How can Serbs live in Kosovo with these people and that behaviour? It can't happen. They use all negative news about Serbs to justify stealing our territory. They know albanians killed Serbs but they don't care.

"Without stating who had given the orders, he said that he had then participated in loading some “90 to 100” bodies, including “four- and five-year-old children,” on to the truck."

VJ and company broke all International law that were founded, yet the same ppl who supported these atrocities now cry for International law. Only a fool would think somehow ICJ will come to their "advisory opinion" in favor of Serbia.

"Without stating who had given the orders, he said that he had then participated in loading some “90 to 100” bodies, including “four- and five-year-old children,” on to the truck. "

Ethnic cleansing?


"According to the indictment, Serbian police killed more than 45 members of the Berisha family in the café."

There is a reat reason nobody takes Serbia seriously in human rights, freedom of speech or any other.

Kosovo should sue Serbia.

What is pity, that once received the sentence in Hague the criminals can't be tried in Serbia again for the same and their property confiscated.

Could happen, the criminals got lucky with Hague - in Serbia their property would be confiscated and they could get a longer sentence. Reminds me of a recent case when a criminal run away from Croatian courts - and got in Serbia 8 years more than what he would get in Croatia.

where are the punishments for the Serbian victims?
Nicholas Klinsman,

between the pages of Del Pontes book, something about a "yellow" house with a capacity (a good sized gym) between 200-500 people, sourced by an un named jeornalist "who was there" later she heard that "from someone, who was there"

These berishas killed a lot of Serbs during the uck terrorist campaign. If it wasn't for our Serb forces to protect us many more Serbs would have been murdered or kidnapped by uck terrorists.

Hey Ratko how many Serbs did these four and five year olds kill???

And yet, Serb politicians pertain to lecture the world about human rights and international law! A hypocrisy of colossal magnitude!
`Death and life are in the power of the tongue' (Proverbs 18:21)... and the very same people, who govern Serbia today, chose silence when death and killings were committed on their name!

The famous Russian writer Nadezhda Mandelstam says: “I decided to scream...Silence is the real crime against humanity”. And you know the greatest irony is that still, even today, Serbs continue to remain silent; continue to defy the terrible truth about a bitter part of their very recent history! And those who do not learn from their history are bound to be wrapped in it.

You are sitll defending a side that screamed there was no ethnic cleansing, till today.

I am still sure this is just the icing on the cake.

(drink, 9 July 2009 15:53)


This is not about me, but about Berisha family. It was clearly said: "most if not all Serbian sympatisers here feel sorry, there is no capital punishment in Hague for such crimes."

I think, you are aware: in many cases during any civil war the "ethnic" or "political" reasons are merely an excuse to proceed with lowly animal instincts (rape) or criminal self-enrichment.

I am not fan of capital punishment, but sometimes I am not so sure. In this case I am very sorry that the prisons in Hague are way to luxury place to spend 20-30 years.

I think, this is good enough. If that's "defending" for you, I don't know, what is else. Capital punishment is not my favorite, sorry. GULAG would be a better place than a luxury prison.

However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?
(Michael, 9 July 2009 18:30)

Because,we never killed children.

"...the criminals got lucky with Hague..."

Please... be serious.

There is no evidence to suggest that Serbia feels sorry for crimes committed against the Albanian population, except to the extent of publicity and outrage generated by such crimes.

I would be happy if you could prove me wrong.

"However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?
(Michael, 9 July 2009 18:30)

Because,we never killed children.
(ardi, 10 July 2009 09:17) "

Is a silly statement to make. 'Monsters' are not unique to any one society or ethnic group.

Can think of 2 instances off-hand which were most probably committed by K-albanians:

1: Automatic fire on a bunch of serb kids swimming in the Bistrica back in 2003 by someone resulted in the deaths of 2 & serious injury to 5 more.

2: Bombing of that bus convoy packed with serb women & kids back in 2001 killing 11 - 4 of whom were women & including a 2 year old child.


"Perhaps because there haven't been any Albanians charged with killing children?

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I personally don't remember seeing anything about it.
(Amer, 10 July 2009 02:31) "

K-albanian was charged with the bombing but was released for 'lack of sufficient evidence - as you probably now recall.

Does happen. Has happened. Just that normal people don't like to be reminded that 'one of their own' could possibly be responsible for such an outrage.

But personally sincerely doubt that either faction has deliberately targetted kids.

Anyone who murders women & kids is a war criminal irrespective of nationality.

Lock 'em up. Throw alway the key.

This makes me sick to my stomach.
But I'm glad the guy admitted that the crime took place.

I feel sorry for innocents trapped in this kind of war situation. And it must be commanders, not just ordinary soldiers that are punished for these types of war crimes.

'"However, we never hear albanians condem the killing of Serbian children. Why is that?"
Michael '

Perhaps because there haven't been any Albanians charged with killing children?

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I personally don't remember seeing anything about it.

Its very simple the very GOAL of Serbia is to prevent that because that is fighting so Kosova don't be as a UN member ....But hey all that is already proved and sign sealed if not this year or next 100 years that it will happen every crime what is done it will be open to prosecuted so CASE IT WILL BE OPEN TILL JUSTICE IS DONE..

Peter, Sydney: "Anyone who murders women & kids is a war criminal irrespective of nationality.
Lock 'em up. Throw alway the key."

I couldn't agree more!

to those who suport crime
I dont know how can you read the story told by an ex police officer and still judge the dead woman and children for being albanians.
just think for a second if serbia stand a smallest chance living with kosovo again!
I wouldnt forget even if I forgive at list we wont forget this crimes.