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Preventing "wave" of recognitions

Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić says the country's diplomatic efforts are at this point aimed at "preventing a larger wave of recognitions of Kosovo".

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Denis

pre 14 godina

Serbs and Albanians MUST negotiate without foreign assistance the NWO diplomats want a situation that is destabalized so they can justify occupying Kosovo and Iraq so both sides stay hostile.It is classic anglo-american style.
(jovan z, 7 July 2009 02:43)

Really, please tell me when did Serbia ever try to "negotiate" with Albanians over Kosovo? Why Serbia did not want to negotiate with Rugova who tried peacefully to negotiate for 10 years. You want to negotiate only after you have no choice, and when your brutal manners which many experienced in the Balkans, are crunched down by force.

Well now we have nothing to negotiate. After many mass graves, and massacres, thousands of properties destroyed by Serbia, some 10,000 dead albanians, we want nothing to do with you.

Our heroes are your terrorists, your heroes are our terrorists, your gov is our agressor, just like vice versa is true, our whole culture is essentially established upon anti-serbian motives. Apparently Serbia has not been a very good patron of Kosovo.

Your argument is faulty and cynical to start with. You call the Albanians "occupators" and every action, or story in Serbia does nothing but re-enforces this view among Serbs, making Albanians feeling rejected in their own land, and very sceptical to live under such spiteful environment.

Niko

pre 14 godina

And speaking about preventions, Jordan recognized Kosovo today!
Friendly advice to Serb readers: Maybe your FM ought to shut up and hope that some countrie will forget to recognize Kosovo. It seems that he keeps reminding everyone that they have a recognition pending...Just a thought.

SupportSerbia

pre 14 godina

I am sensing a bit of panic from the Albanian commenters.

No recognitions in 2 months.

Can't find anymore Pacific islands to bribe?

jovan z

pre 14 godina

i would like to ask Albanians
what their mini-imperialism will achieve? Non Balkan Muslims and Serbs have good relations and they see the US imperial hand behind the "kosova" recognition.They will not take the bait.They are treated like Serbs and most know that stealing what is not yours is immoral and wrong.The CFR and Bilderberg don't give a damn about people just the land.Serbs and Albanians MUST negotiate without foreign assistance the NWO diplomats want a situation that is destabalized so they can justify occupying Kosovo and Iraq so both sides stay hostile.It is classic anglo-american style.

cees

pre 14 godina

"irrelevant of the differences over Kosovo, we have earned a good dose of many countries' respect because of the energy and the way in which we fight".
You may think this, Mr. Jeremic, but it is clear that as long as you are FM that you have never learned to understand the diplomatic language. In your face most of your colleagues will show this kind of respect, because the diplomatic ethics demands this, but in reality they dislike your continuously repeated stance on the situation. Your soughing for the Serbian side of an ICJ-ruling is so unrealistic. No state in the West will change his mind about Kosovo’s independence. As they all show you at the time you have to admit that the only difference with them exists in the opinion about Kosovo, at that moment those representatives say their official opinion to you, and they do it with a soft voice, but their stance is firm and can’t be changed.
What will happen after the ICJ-ruling? In the first place I think that the ruling won’t be unambiguous. Like in a lot of decisions by ‘high courts’ on which level it may be, the verdict will have a majority and a minority opinion. The majority of the judges will rule in favor of Kosovo’s independence, whereas one or two judges will bring out their opposite opinion. Will this be a victory or defeat?
The whole idea of the Serbian government to act, as if they are bringing the case to the legal level, is a window-dressing, a sham. Until now the whole asking for a ruling by the ICJ has been used by this government in a political way, nationally and internationally. At the end it says that the government won’t accept a for Serbia negative ruling. So the only thing where they are asking for is a legal foundation for their existing political stance that will not change, if the legal ruling is against it. In simple words: I ask someone with authority if I am right, and if he answers ‘no’, I go on telling everyone ‘I am right’! At that moment don’t ask for an opinion. But Tadic and Jeremic were long enough together with Kostunica in one government to know that they need this kind of game to satisfy the Serbian voters. It is a dangerous game both at home and abroad. It could turn out that at the end they all will mistrust this government.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

it is just so sad when the entire focus of a for. minister is to torment another people. i really hope that this gentle man's public service will have short legs. he is still totally immersed in the worst of the 90s, but just w/out weapons (nato's in the backyard.)

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 5 July 2009 20:01)

'roberto' from 'frisco', I see that Jeremic is tormenting you, then he is doing a damn good job.

Please spare us your self righteous nonsense. After all your irrational hatred of Serbia which borders on the racist is well known. You are on record on this site for calling Rasim Ljajic a 'traitor' for simply doing his job as well as calling on Hungarians, Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians, Slovaks and other ethnic minorities to boycott all Serbian state institutions.

Hypocrite.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

@ No. 7, KOSOVA-USA

"Kosova recognizes Serbia as a state..."

An illegitimate child recognizing a parent?
How funny is that!!!
(Logic, 5 July 2009 20:55)

You seem to have forgot that Kosovo grew up. Yes like any parent, it is hard to let go. But Kosovo is doing just fine by itself.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'The sooner the US_Albanian occupation of Kosovo is over the sooner Serb-Forces can restore order.'

Finally, the Serbian interpretation of the concept "more than autonomy, less than independence."

miri

pre 14 godina

The US is time as a world power is way past its peak and declining all over.
Its only a matter of time, before Inflation comes back and completely destroys their dollar.

We will see what will happen, once they cannot pay their own soldiers anymore...
(Mike, 5 July 2009 17:39)

What a ridiculous and shameful statement. What are you comparing US to Russia? The only russian company that had been profitable for few years, Gazprom, sits on 26b dollars debt. Anyway, if you counting the decline of US to get "your" Kosova back, you are for a long ride.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 5 July 2009 20:01)

That's right Roberto. Most of the world sees Serbia the way Serbia and Jeremic are. That's why most of the world has NOT recogtnized your beloved "Kosova".
How can you possibly make such a ridiculous statement when most of the world is on Serbia's side?

lili

pre 14 godina

"In other words, to isolate it [Priština] in a semi-defined status, from which it will be able to emerge only by renewing dialogue with Belgrade,"

Bobobooo! It reminds me Miloshevic politik:he too wanted to isolate kosovo:result all the world came in kosovo!
Just do it! every step you move is an autogoal!We are independent,and time when you could isolate albanians is gone for ever:not understanding that point shows where you are!

pss

pre 14 godina

I am still curious as to what the Serb camp thinks the benefit to Kosovars would ever be to return to the negotiation table. What could Serbia offer that would be more than they have now, even if everything froze as it is. Kosovo could not join any organization except through Serbia so there is not an advantage there. The visa regime in EU will be worked out for all of the balkans, so that could not be it. There would have to be something for Serbia to hold up to get Kosovo back to the table and the only thing I think they could offer is to agree to a negotiated independence.
Mike et al. You and many others have been predicting the financial collapse of the US, to a degree that it seems more a wish than a prediction. After the recent dip in the market has nearly bankrupt Serbia do you really think any fledgling economy in the world would survive such a disaster. Where do you think Russia and China has amassed their money so far? It is built on the economies of the west thus US.
I agree that the US has to do something but I do not believe there will be any "winners" in such a collapse.

roberto

pre 14 godina

it is just so sad when the entire focus of a for. minister is to torment another people. i really hope that this gentle man's public service will have short legs. he is still totally immersed in the worst of the 90s, but just w/out weapons (nato's in the backyard.)

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco

ben

pre 14 godina

(albi, 5 July 2009 17:44)


Great post albi!

Jeremic’s and in general Serbian approach to Kosova is the maniacal ‘never let go’ even that the other part is not interested in having any relations with you.

How can you pretend to have normal relations with someone that doesn’t want to see your face Jeremic???

Face it Kosova never did and never will want to see the face of Serbia.

What’s the difference of 1999 when Serbia wanted to kick out all Kosovars from their homes and today that want them isolated from the world and then to rule them without their consent??? NONE!!

That’s why you failed.

ICJ will never rule against the independence. This is the only thing that one can be certain of.

I sincerely hope that ICJ will set a good positive precedent in the international law and lift the excuse (“internal affair” or “integral part”) to the states when they abuse and violate systematically and collectively their minorities.

In other words I hope that the ICJ rule will give go ahead for the independence of Darfur and other martyred nations. I hope that Kosova will be used from ICJ to set this new advanced democratic rule in the international law and relations.

You are in losers and tyrannous side Jeremic.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 14 godina

@kosova usa

I do not believe that Albanians want good relations with Serbs. Otherwise, serbs in Kosovo could move freely, speak their language, and wouldn't live in isolated communities whose only existence is protected by outside forces.

albi

pre 14 godina

Under the circumstances, Mr Jeremic declares that his country's efforts are aimed at preventing the next wave of recognitions, but let's be honest, in an ideal world Serbia would be able to get rid of Albanians and keep the territory of Kosovo.

Everybody can see through Mr Jeremic's tactics. Serbia is destined to lose again. Milosevic's argument was that Kosovo was an internal matter for Serbia. Jeremic's argument is that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia.

Reality left both these men behind. They were 10 years too late when they spoke such nonsense. Or they were deluded. Kosovo used to be an internal matter for Serbia. But it turns out you can't internally massacre your population.

The thing taht Jeremic doesn't seem to understand is that for Albanians, things have never been better. Who cares about non-recognition from Belgrade? Could Albanians expect anything else?

Mike

pre 14 godina

The US is time as a world power is way past its peak and declining all over.
Its only a matter of time, before Inflation comes back and completely destroys their dollar.

We will see what will happen, once they cannot pay their own soldiers anymore...

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Each case has its unique aspects and each have their similarities. Nothing has changed much in Kosovo over the past 100 years even with the occupation. It's time to move and negotiate a future for the people.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Look, Palestine has achieved more than half UN member recognitions and what good has that done? We can come here day in day out repeating nonsense claims and figures but when world powers are divided it means nothing.
(Zoran, 5 July 2009 13:53)

There is a major difference , cause Palestinians refuse to recognize Iraeli existence as a state. Kosova recognizes Serbia as a state and wishes to have good neighborly relations.
Unless Palestinians recognize Israel, they will never become a country/state no matter how many individual countries claim to have recognized. Has any of these countries open an Embassy in Gaza or West Bank, yet???

figs

pre 14 godina

Redicolous.

USA are out of sand pits in the pacific to recognize their occupied south-serbian province.

The Muslim states did´nt swallow the bait and the whole world with countries like Russia China Brazil and India won´t do it either.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

YAWN....Kosovo can never achieve independence so the sooner our Southern citizens come back to the negotiating table the sooner we can all get on with building the province and prospering.

Look, Palestine has achieved more than half UN member recognitions and what good has that done? We can come here day in day out repeating nonsense claims and figures but when world powers are divided it means nothing.

The choice is to argue for the next 50 years and maintain the status quo or to accept reality and negotiate. Serbians cannot control the ethnic Albanians and the ethnic Albanians cannot achieve independence. That is the reality my friends, how long will it take to sink in?

V

pre 14 godina

and he is proud of this :) he should be ashamed of it bcoz he is playing in a field where only he is a player :) comon it's Kosovo :D and a proud :D:D:D Kosovo dosn't have FM and anything relating to diplomacy or whatsoever

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

Great job Mr. Jeremic. So far within a year of independence Kosovo has only joined World Bank, IMF and few other world institutions. All neighbors and most powerful countries have recognized it as a state. It has it's own currency (euro), and a light armed army. It Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Internal Affairs (officers from Serbian community serving. Passports are recognized even by countries that didn't recognize the independence. There was no soldier or police from Serbia in the past 10 years. What else makes a country independent?

Alban

pre 14 godina

The minister added that it is realistic to expect that after the end of that process, a global debate will start that will result in the reopening of the status issue.

---

It ain't global Jeremic. You want to join EU, get Schengen visas, get IMF loans, the EU aid and our partners and friends control them all.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

BELGRADE -- Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić says the country's diplomatic efforts are at this point aimed at "preventing a larger wave of recognitions of Kosovo".


I though Mr. Jeremic fought hard to stop recognitions at early stage. I am wondering if he smells something is coming up and he would like to tell Serbs that he is working hard to stop big waves of recognitions, which are on its way.
He may be afraid that he may be sacked for not doing enough , yet he has spent a lot of tax payers money on trips around the world.
We will see what future will bring!

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

Great job Mr. Jeremic. So far within a year of independence Kosovo has only joined World Bank, IMF and few other world institutions. All neighbors and most powerful countries have recognized it as a state. It has it's own currency (euro), and a light armed army. It Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Internal Affairs (officers from Serbian community serving. Passports are recognized even by countries that didn't recognize the independence. There was no soldier or police from Serbia in the past 10 years. What else makes a country independent?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

BELGRADE -- Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić says the country's diplomatic efforts are at this point aimed at "preventing a larger wave of recognitions of Kosovo".


I though Mr. Jeremic fought hard to stop recognitions at early stage. I am wondering if he smells something is coming up and he would like to tell Serbs that he is working hard to stop big waves of recognitions, which are on its way.
He may be afraid that he may be sacked for not doing enough , yet he has spent a lot of tax payers money on trips around the world.
We will see what future will bring!

Alban

pre 14 godina

The minister added that it is realistic to expect that after the end of that process, a global debate will start that will result in the reopening of the status issue.

---

It ain't global Jeremic. You want to join EU, get Schengen visas, get IMF loans, the EU aid and our partners and friends control them all.

figs

pre 14 godina

Redicolous.

USA are out of sand pits in the pacific to recognize their occupied south-serbian province.

The Muslim states did´nt swallow the bait and the whole world with countries like Russia China Brazil and India won´t do it either.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

YAWN....Kosovo can never achieve independence so the sooner our Southern citizens come back to the negotiating table the sooner we can all get on with building the province and prospering.

Look, Palestine has achieved more than half UN member recognitions and what good has that done? We can come here day in day out repeating nonsense claims and figures but when world powers are divided it means nothing.

The choice is to argue for the next 50 years and maintain the status quo or to accept reality and negotiate. Serbians cannot control the ethnic Albanians and the ethnic Albanians cannot achieve independence. That is the reality my friends, how long will it take to sink in?

ben

pre 14 godina

(albi, 5 July 2009 17:44)


Great post albi!

Jeremic’s and in general Serbian approach to Kosova is the maniacal ‘never let go’ even that the other part is not interested in having any relations with you.

How can you pretend to have normal relations with someone that doesn’t want to see your face Jeremic???

Face it Kosova never did and never will want to see the face of Serbia.

What’s the difference of 1999 when Serbia wanted to kick out all Kosovars from their homes and today that want them isolated from the world and then to rule them without their consent??? NONE!!

That’s why you failed.

ICJ will never rule against the independence. This is the only thing that one can be certain of.

I sincerely hope that ICJ will set a good positive precedent in the international law and lift the excuse (“internal affair” or “integral part”) to the states when they abuse and violate systematically and collectively their minorities.

In other words I hope that the ICJ rule will give go ahead for the independence of Darfur and other martyred nations. I hope that Kosova will be used from ICJ to set this new advanced democratic rule in the international law and relations.

You are in losers and tyrannous side Jeremic.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Look, Palestine has achieved more than half UN member recognitions and what good has that done? We can come here day in day out repeating nonsense claims and figures but when world powers are divided it means nothing.
(Zoran, 5 July 2009 13:53)

There is a major difference , cause Palestinians refuse to recognize Iraeli existence as a state. Kosova recognizes Serbia as a state and wishes to have good neighborly relations.
Unless Palestinians recognize Israel, they will never become a country/state no matter how many individual countries claim to have recognized. Has any of these countries open an Embassy in Gaza or West Bank, yet???

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 14 godina

@kosova usa

I do not believe that Albanians want good relations with Serbs. Otherwise, serbs in Kosovo could move freely, speak their language, and wouldn't live in isolated communities whose only existence is protected by outside forces.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Each case has its unique aspects and each have their similarities. Nothing has changed much in Kosovo over the past 100 years even with the occupation. It's time to move and negotiate a future for the people.

albi

pre 14 godina

Under the circumstances, Mr Jeremic declares that his country's efforts are aimed at preventing the next wave of recognitions, but let's be honest, in an ideal world Serbia would be able to get rid of Albanians and keep the territory of Kosovo.

Everybody can see through Mr Jeremic's tactics. Serbia is destined to lose again. Milosevic's argument was that Kosovo was an internal matter for Serbia. Jeremic's argument is that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia.

Reality left both these men behind. They were 10 years too late when they spoke such nonsense. Or they were deluded. Kosovo used to be an internal matter for Serbia. But it turns out you can't internally massacre your population.

The thing taht Jeremic doesn't seem to understand is that for Albanians, things have never been better. Who cares about non-recognition from Belgrade? Could Albanians expect anything else?

Mike

pre 14 godina

The US is time as a world power is way past its peak and declining all over.
Its only a matter of time, before Inflation comes back and completely destroys their dollar.

We will see what will happen, once they cannot pay their own soldiers anymore...

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

@ No. 7, KOSOVA-USA

"Kosova recognizes Serbia as a state..."

An illegitimate child recognizing a parent?
How funny is that!!!
(Logic, 5 July 2009 20:55)

You seem to have forgot that Kosovo grew up. Yes like any parent, it is hard to let go. But Kosovo is doing just fine by itself.

roberto

pre 14 godina

it is just so sad when the entire focus of a for. minister is to torment another people. i really hope that this gentle man's public service will have short legs. he is still totally immersed in the worst of the 90s, but just w/out weapons (nato's in the backyard.)

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco

Amer

pre 14 godina

'The sooner the US_Albanian occupation of Kosovo is over the sooner Serb-Forces can restore order.'

Finally, the Serbian interpretation of the concept "more than autonomy, less than independence."

pss

pre 14 godina

I am still curious as to what the Serb camp thinks the benefit to Kosovars would ever be to return to the negotiation table. What could Serbia offer that would be more than they have now, even if everything froze as it is. Kosovo could not join any organization except through Serbia so there is not an advantage there. The visa regime in EU will be worked out for all of the balkans, so that could not be it. There would have to be something for Serbia to hold up to get Kosovo back to the table and the only thing I think they could offer is to agree to a negotiated independence.
Mike et al. You and many others have been predicting the financial collapse of the US, to a degree that it seems more a wish than a prediction. After the recent dip in the market has nearly bankrupt Serbia do you really think any fledgling economy in the world would survive such a disaster. Where do you think Russia and China has amassed their money so far? It is built on the economies of the west thus US.
I agree that the US has to do something but I do not believe there will be any "winners" in such a collapse.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 5 July 2009 20:01)

That's right Roberto. Most of the world sees Serbia the way Serbia and Jeremic are. That's why most of the world has NOT recogtnized your beloved "Kosova".
How can you possibly make such a ridiculous statement when most of the world is on Serbia's side?

miri

pre 14 godina

The US is time as a world power is way past its peak and declining all over.
Its only a matter of time, before Inflation comes back and completely destroys their dollar.

We will see what will happen, once they cannot pay their own soldiers anymore...
(Mike, 5 July 2009 17:39)

What a ridiculous and shameful statement. What are you comparing US to Russia? The only russian company that had been profitable for few years, Gazprom, sits on 26b dollars debt. Anyway, if you counting the decline of US to get "your" Kosova back, you are for a long ride.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

it is just so sad when the entire focus of a for. minister is to torment another people. i really hope that this gentle man's public service will have short legs. he is still totally immersed in the worst of the 90s, but just w/out weapons (nato's in the backyard.)

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 5 July 2009 20:01)

'roberto' from 'frisco', I see that Jeremic is tormenting you, then he is doing a damn good job.

Please spare us your self righteous nonsense. After all your irrational hatred of Serbia which borders on the racist is well known. You are on record on this site for calling Rasim Ljajic a 'traitor' for simply doing his job as well as calling on Hungarians, Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians, Slovaks and other ethnic minorities to boycott all Serbian state institutions.

Hypocrite.

lili

pre 14 godina

"In other words, to isolate it [Priština] in a semi-defined status, from which it will be able to emerge only by renewing dialogue with Belgrade,"

Bobobooo! It reminds me Miloshevic politik:he too wanted to isolate kosovo:result all the world came in kosovo!
Just do it! every step you move is an autogoal!We are independent,and time when you could isolate albanians is gone for ever:not understanding that point shows where you are!

cees

pre 14 godina

"irrelevant of the differences over Kosovo, we have earned a good dose of many countries' respect because of the energy and the way in which we fight".
You may think this, Mr. Jeremic, but it is clear that as long as you are FM that you have never learned to understand the diplomatic language. In your face most of your colleagues will show this kind of respect, because the diplomatic ethics demands this, but in reality they dislike your continuously repeated stance on the situation. Your soughing for the Serbian side of an ICJ-ruling is so unrealistic. No state in the West will change his mind about Kosovo’s independence. As they all show you at the time you have to admit that the only difference with them exists in the opinion about Kosovo, at that moment those representatives say their official opinion to you, and they do it with a soft voice, but their stance is firm and can’t be changed.
What will happen after the ICJ-ruling? In the first place I think that the ruling won’t be unambiguous. Like in a lot of decisions by ‘high courts’ on which level it may be, the verdict will have a majority and a minority opinion. The majority of the judges will rule in favor of Kosovo’s independence, whereas one or two judges will bring out their opposite opinion. Will this be a victory or defeat?
The whole idea of the Serbian government to act, as if they are bringing the case to the legal level, is a window-dressing, a sham. Until now the whole asking for a ruling by the ICJ has been used by this government in a political way, nationally and internationally. At the end it says that the government won’t accept a for Serbia negative ruling. So the only thing where they are asking for is a legal foundation for their existing political stance that will not change, if the legal ruling is against it. In simple words: I ask someone with authority if I am right, and if he answers ‘no’, I go on telling everyone ‘I am right’! At that moment don’t ask for an opinion. But Tadic and Jeremic were long enough together with Kostunica in one government to know that they need this kind of game to satisfy the Serbian voters. It is a dangerous game both at home and abroad. It could turn out that at the end they all will mistrust this government.

V

pre 14 godina

and he is proud of this :) he should be ashamed of it bcoz he is playing in a field where only he is a player :) comon it's Kosovo :D and a proud :D:D:D Kosovo dosn't have FM and anything relating to diplomacy or whatsoever

SupportSerbia

pre 14 godina

I am sensing a bit of panic from the Albanian commenters.

No recognitions in 2 months.

Can't find anymore Pacific islands to bribe?

jovan z

pre 14 godina

i would like to ask Albanians
what their mini-imperialism will achieve? Non Balkan Muslims and Serbs have good relations and they see the US imperial hand behind the "kosova" recognition.They will not take the bait.They are treated like Serbs and most know that stealing what is not yours is immoral and wrong.The CFR and Bilderberg don't give a damn about people just the land.Serbs and Albanians MUST negotiate without foreign assistance the NWO diplomats want a situation that is destabalized so they can justify occupying Kosovo and Iraq so both sides stay hostile.It is classic anglo-american style.

Niko

pre 14 godina

And speaking about preventions, Jordan recognized Kosovo today!
Friendly advice to Serb readers: Maybe your FM ought to shut up and hope that some countrie will forget to recognize Kosovo. It seems that he keeps reminding everyone that they have a recognition pending...Just a thought.

Denis

pre 14 godina

Serbs and Albanians MUST negotiate without foreign assistance the NWO diplomats want a situation that is destabalized so they can justify occupying Kosovo and Iraq so both sides stay hostile.It is classic anglo-american style.
(jovan z, 7 July 2009 02:43)

Really, please tell me when did Serbia ever try to "negotiate" with Albanians over Kosovo? Why Serbia did not want to negotiate with Rugova who tried peacefully to negotiate for 10 years. You want to negotiate only after you have no choice, and when your brutal manners which many experienced in the Balkans, are crunched down by force.

Well now we have nothing to negotiate. After many mass graves, and massacres, thousands of properties destroyed by Serbia, some 10,000 dead albanians, we want nothing to do with you.

Our heroes are your terrorists, your heroes are our terrorists, your gov is our agressor, just like vice versa is true, our whole culture is essentially established upon anti-serbian motives. Apparently Serbia has not been a very good patron of Kosovo.

Your argument is faulty and cynical to start with. You call the Albanians "occupators" and every action, or story in Serbia does nothing but re-enforces this view among Serbs, making Albanians feeling rejected in their own land, and very sceptical to live under such spiteful environment.

figs

pre 14 godina

Redicolous.

USA are out of sand pits in the pacific to recognize their occupied south-serbian province.

The Muslim states did´nt swallow the bait and the whole world with countries like Russia China Brazil and India won´t do it either.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

YAWN....Kosovo can never achieve independence so the sooner our Southern citizens come back to the negotiating table the sooner we can all get on with building the province and prospering.

Look, Palestine has achieved more than half UN member recognitions and what good has that done? We can come here day in day out repeating nonsense claims and figures but when world powers are divided it means nothing.

The choice is to argue for the next 50 years and maintain the status quo or to accept reality and negotiate. Serbians cannot control the ethnic Albanians and the ethnic Albanians cannot achieve independence. That is the reality my friends, how long will it take to sink in?

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

Great job Mr. Jeremic. So far within a year of independence Kosovo has only joined World Bank, IMF and few other world institutions. All neighbors and most powerful countries have recognized it as a state. It has it's own currency (euro), and a light armed army. It Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Internal Affairs (officers from Serbian community serving. Passports are recognized even by countries that didn't recognize the independence. There was no soldier or police from Serbia in the past 10 years. What else makes a country independent?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

BELGRADE -- Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić says the country's diplomatic efforts are at this point aimed at "preventing a larger wave of recognitions of Kosovo".


I though Mr. Jeremic fought hard to stop recognitions at early stage. I am wondering if he smells something is coming up and he would like to tell Serbs that he is working hard to stop big waves of recognitions, which are on its way.
He may be afraid that he may be sacked for not doing enough , yet he has spent a lot of tax payers money on trips around the world.
We will see what future will bring!

Alban

pre 14 godina

The minister added that it is realistic to expect that after the end of that process, a global debate will start that will result in the reopening of the status issue.

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It ain't global Jeremic. You want to join EU, get Schengen visas, get IMF loans, the EU aid and our partners and friends control them all.

Zoran

pre 14 godina

Each case has its unique aspects and each have their similarities. Nothing has changed much in Kosovo over the past 100 years even with the occupation. It's time to move and negotiate a future for the people.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Look, Palestine has achieved more than half UN member recognitions and what good has that done? We can come here day in day out repeating nonsense claims and figures but when world powers are divided it means nothing.
(Zoran, 5 July 2009 13:53)

There is a major difference , cause Palestinians refuse to recognize Iraeli existence as a state. Kosova recognizes Serbia as a state and wishes to have good neighborly relations.
Unless Palestinians recognize Israel, they will never become a country/state no matter how many individual countries claim to have recognized. Has any of these countries open an Embassy in Gaza or West Bank, yet???

ben

pre 14 godina

(albi, 5 July 2009 17:44)


Great post albi!

Jeremic’s and in general Serbian approach to Kosova is the maniacal ‘never let go’ even that the other part is not interested in having any relations with you.

How can you pretend to have normal relations with someone that doesn’t want to see your face Jeremic???

Face it Kosova never did and never will want to see the face of Serbia.

What’s the difference of 1999 when Serbia wanted to kick out all Kosovars from their homes and today that want them isolated from the world and then to rule them without their consent??? NONE!!

That’s why you failed.

ICJ will never rule against the independence. This is the only thing that one can be certain of.

I sincerely hope that ICJ will set a good positive precedent in the international law and lift the excuse (“internal affair” or “integral part”) to the states when they abuse and violate systematically and collectively their minorities.

In other words I hope that the ICJ rule will give go ahead for the independence of Darfur and other martyred nations. I hope that Kosova will be used from ICJ to set this new advanced democratic rule in the international law and relations.

You are in losers and tyrannous side Jeremic.

Mike

pre 14 godina

The US is time as a world power is way past its peak and declining all over.
Its only a matter of time, before Inflation comes back and completely destroys their dollar.

We will see what will happen, once they cannot pay their own soldiers anymore...

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 14 godina

@kosova usa

I do not believe that Albanians want good relations with Serbs. Otherwise, serbs in Kosovo could move freely, speak their language, and wouldn't live in isolated communities whose only existence is protected by outside forces.

roberto

pre 14 godina

it is just so sad when the entire focus of a for. minister is to torment another people. i really hope that this gentle man's public service will have short legs. he is still totally immersed in the worst of the 90s, but just w/out weapons (nato's in the backyard.)

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

@ No. 7, KOSOVA-USA

"Kosova recognizes Serbia as a state..."

An illegitimate child recognizing a parent?
How funny is that!!!
(Logic, 5 July 2009 20:55)

You seem to have forgot that Kosovo grew up. Yes like any parent, it is hard to let go. But Kosovo is doing just fine by itself.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 5 July 2009 20:01)

That's right Roberto. Most of the world sees Serbia the way Serbia and Jeremic are. That's why most of the world has NOT recogtnized your beloved "Kosova".
How can you possibly make such a ridiculous statement when most of the world is on Serbia's side?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

it is just so sad when the entire focus of a for. minister is to torment another people. i really hope that this gentle man's public service will have short legs. he is still totally immersed in the worst of the 90s, but just w/out weapons (nato's in the backyard.)

on the other hand, i think most of the world sees him for what he really is. and that is how some of you wish serbia to be represented to the world?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 5 July 2009 20:01)

'roberto' from 'frisco', I see that Jeremic is tormenting you, then he is doing a damn good job.

Please spare us your self righteous nonsense. After all your irrational hatred of Serbia which borders on the racist is well known. You are on record on this site for calling Rasim Ljajic a 'traitor' for simply doing his job as well as calling on Hungarians, Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians, Slovaks and other ethnic minorities to boycott all Serbian state institutions.

Hypocrite.

V

pre 14 godina

and he is proud of this :) he should be ashamed of it bcoz he is playing in a field where only he is a player :) comon it's Kosovo :D and a proud :D:D:D Kosovo dosn't have FM and anything relating to diplomacy or whatsoever

albi

pre 14 godina

Under the circumstances, Mr Jeremic declares that his country's efforts are aimed at preventing the next wave of recognitions, but let's be honest, in an ideal world Serbia would be able to get rid of Albanians and keep the territory of Kosovo.

Everybody can see through Mr Jeremic's tactics. Serbia is destined to lose again. Milosevic's argument was that Kosovo was an internal matter for Serbia. Jeremic's argument is that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia.

Reality left both these men behind. They were 10 years too late when they spoke such nonsense. Or they were deluded. Kosovo used to be an internal matter for Serbia. But it turns out you can't internally massacre your population.

The thing taht Jeremic doesn't seem to understand is that for Albanians, things have never been better. Who cares about non-recognition from Belgrade? Could Albanians expect anything else?

pss

pre 14 godina

I am still curious as to what the Serb camp thinks the benefit to Kosovars would ever be to return to the negotiation table. What could Serbia offer that would be more than they have now, even if everything froze as it is. Kosovo could not join any organization except through Serbia so there is not an advantage there. The visa regime in EU will be worked out for all of the balkans, so that could not be it. There would have to be something for Serbia to hold up to get Kosovo back to the table and the only thing I think they could offer is to agree to a negotiated independence.
Mike et al. You and many others have been predicting the financial collapse of the US, to a degree that it seems more a wish than a prediction. After the recent dip in the market has nearly bankrupt Serbia do you really think any fledgling economy in the world would survive such a disaster. Where do you think Russia and China has amassed their money so far? It is built on the economies of the west thus US.
I agree that the US has to do something but I do not believe there will be any "winners" in such a collapse.

lili

pre 14 godina

"In other words, to isolate it [Priština] in a semi-defined status, from which it will be able to emerge only by renewing dialogue with Belgrade,"

Bobobooo! It reminds me Miloshevic politik:he too wanted to isolate kosovo:result all the world came in kosovo!
Just do it! every step you move is an autogoal!We are independent,and time when you could isolate albanians is gone for ever:not understanding that point shows where you are!

SupportSerbia

pre 14 godina

I am sensing a bit of panic from the Albanian commenters.

No recognitions in 2 months.

Can't find anymore Pacific islands to bribe?

jovan z

pre 14 godina

i would like to ask Albanians
what their mini-imperialism will achieve? Non Balkan Muslims and Serbs have good relations and they see the US imperial hand behind the "kosova" recognition.They will not take the bait.They are treated like Serbs and most know that stealing what is not yours is immoral and wrong.The CFR and Bilderberg don't give a damn about people just the land.Serbs and Albanians MUST negotiate without foreign assistance the NWO diplomats want a situation that is destabalized so they can justify occupying Kosovo and Iraq so both sides stay hostile.It is classic anglo-american style.

miri

pre 14 godina

The US is time as a world power is way past its peak and declining all over.
Its only a matter of time, before Inflation comes back and completely destroys their dollar.

We will see what will happen, once they cannot pay their own soldiers anymore...
(Mike, 5 July 2009 17:39)

What a ridiculous and shameful statement. What are you comparing US to Russia? The only russian company that had been profitable for few years, Gazprom, sits on 26b dollars debt. Anyway, if you counting the decline of US to get "your" Kosova back, you are for a long ride.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'The sooner the US_Albanian occupation of Kosovo is over the sooner Serb-Forces can restore order.'

Finally, the Serbian interpretation of the concept "more than autonomy, less than independence."

cees

pre 14 godina

"irrelevant of the differences over Kosovo, we have earned a good dose of many countries' respect because of the energy and the way in which we fight".
You may think this, Mr. Jeremic, but it is clear that as long as you are FM that you have never learned to understand the diplomatic language. In your face most of your colleagues will show this kind of respect, because the diplomatic ethics demands this, but in reality they dislike your continuously repeated stance on the situation. Your soughing for the Serbian side of an ICJ-ruling is so unrealistic. No state in the West will change his mind about Kosovo’s independence. As they all show you at the time you have to admit that the only difference with them exists in the opinion about Kosovo, at that moment those representatives say their official opinion to you, and they do it with a soft voice, but their stance is firm and can’t be changed.
What will happen after the ICJ-ruling? In the first place I think that the ruling won’t be unambiguous. Like in a lot of decisions by ‘high courts’ on which level it may be, the verdict will have a majority and a minority opinion. The majority of the judges will rule in favor of Kosovo’s independence, whereas one or two judges will bring out their opposite opinion. Will this be a victory or defeat?
The whole idea of the Serbian government to act, as if they are bringing the case to the legal level, is a window-dressing, a sham. Until now the whole asking for a ruling by the ICJ has been used by this government in a political way, nationally and internationally. At the end it says that the government won’t accept a for Serbia negative ruling. So the only thing where they are asking for is a legal foundation for their existing political stance that will not change, if the legal ruling is against it. In simple words: I ask someone with authority if I am right, and if he answers ‘no’, I go on telling everyone ‘I am right’! At that moment don’t ask for an opinion. But Tadic and Jeremic were long enough together with Kostunica in one government to know that they need this kind of game to satisfy the Serbian voters. It is a dangerous game both at home and abroad. It could turn out that at the end they all will mistrust this government.

Niko

pre 14 godina

And speaking about preventions, Jordan recognized Kosovo today!
Friendly advice to Serb readers: Maybe your FM ought to shut up and hope that some countrie will forget to recognize Kosovo. It seems that he keeps reminding everyone that they have a recognition pending...Just a thought.

Denis

pre 14 godina

Serbs and Albanians MUST negotiate without foreign assistance the NWO diplomats want a situation that is destabalized so they can justify occupying Kosovo and Iraq so both sides stay hostile.It is classic anglo-american style.
(jovan z, 7 July 2009 02:43)

Really, please tell me when did Serbia ever try to "negotiate" with Albanians over Kosovo? Why Serbia did not want to negotiate with Rugova who tried peacefully to negotiate for 10 years. You want to negotiate only after you have no choice, and when your brutal manners which many experienced in the Balkans, are crunched down by force.

Well now we have nothing to negotiate. After many mass graves, and massacres, thousands of properties destroyed by Serbia, some 10,000 dead albanians, we want nothing to do with you.

Our heroes are your terrorists, your heroes are our terrorists, your gov is our agressor, just like vice versa is true, our whole culture is essentially established upon anti-serbian motives. Apparently Serbia has not been a very good patron of Kosovo.

Your argument is faulty and cynical to start with. You call the Albanians "occupators" and every action, or story in Serbia does nothing but re-enforces this view among Serbs, making Albanians feeling rejected in their own land, and very sceptical to live under such spiteful environment.