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Thursday, 02.07.2009.

09:44

Papoulias reiterates backing over EU, Kosovo

Presidents of Greece and Serbia Karolos Papoulias and Boris Tadić met in Belgrade this Thursday.

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Peggy

pre 14 godina

George from Melbourne, You are right. Everyone I have talked to also finds what Albanians are doing unacceptable but sadly our Kevin Rudd is no different to John Howard when it comes to kissing the American behind.

A small country like NZ has not recognized Kosovo but Australia has only a couple of days after UDI and we thought that Kevin 07 was going to be different from little Johnny.

Also from Melbourne.

lili

pre 14 godina

an islamic country?
kosovo has less muslims than France,who has 5 millions of them and not as cool muslims as kosovar ones!Not to talk of germany and GB etc...wake up,see reality!
morover,we already are for 1/4 of us in evrope!

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

there has been a Europe long before it became trendy to call it the EU and serbia was part of that Europe longer than America has been a country.For the [people that say "its not great but...".In the EU serbia will have to import what it already has,it will have to open its borders to people who have been trying to erase our borders for centuries,our once superior educational system will fall to the level of england or God forbid US,we will have to embrace(so to speak)homosexuality,atheism,.The EU is an old totaltarian idea that wasnt able to be implimented before because of the old generation that believed in God and freedom and new better.Now that the WW2 geration is passing on who will protect our faith and freedom,the coca-cola,american idol,mcdonalds,reality Tv generation.God help us!So with that being said God bless the sovereign nation of serbia and our holy church!

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

Alban

Since when did the EU ever have a problem with Orthodoxy? Romania, Greece, Bulgaria (EU members) and Macedonia (EU candidate) are all predominantly Orthodox.

The EU would DEFINITELY not prefer to take a muslim country into Europe over Orhtodox, if religion was the only factor that mattered for membership.

Honestly, why do you think Turkey is not in yet? They have been trying for decades!

George from Melbourne

pre 14 godina

Serbia and Greece together united!

Slowly but surely the small number of countries that recognised Kosovo ‘independence’ are realising their mistake.

All my friends here in Australia (of whatever faith or nationality) cannot believe some governments would be stupid enough to set up a narcoterrorist ‘state’ in the middle of Europe and so grossly violate international law.

Northern Epirus = Greece

Albanians - stop persecuting the Greeks of Northern Epirus!!!

Aljosa

pre 14 godina

Dragoslav, I understand your thinking but come on you're not supposed to let emotions dictate politics. That didn't get us anywhere in the 90's and we kind of don't have a nuclear bomb to command respect like the west.

Serbia needs to have unity, strategy, continue developing and eventually join the EU.

The only concern i have is the Lisbon Treaty. If decision making is based on population representation and no right to veto then their might be trouble. What if they vote over the EU states that have not recognized Kosovo? Will this fall under EU foreign policy or internal matters of the EU? Serbia should judge if that time comes and let elections decide if EU is in Serbia's interests. No wonder why Vaclav Claus and others are increasingly becoming EU skeptics. But hey, if it is passed, Serbs can make fun of their EU neighbours on how they've lost their soverignty. There are more scary things in that treaty that have a hint of totalitarianism but that doesn't change that majority of EU citizens are good minded people who do not wish Serbia any ill. They're are also worried about EUs direction.

Alban

pre 14 godina

"I am in favour of Albania and Bosnia by the way!"

Well "ron,"
with all do respect what you think doesn't matter. Albanians have powerful friends and we're in EU just as we got in NATO.

"Kosovo has powerful friends" is the headline of the US ambassador's speech for 4th of July. If Serbia was a western favorite we would be in trouble, but we're pro-west and the West wants Russia out. Once in EU we don't care

Ron

pre 14 godina

It is a shame countries like Greece must save international law.

Why is the West destroying international law?

About Turkey: I think Turkey will indeed never join EU.

And I know very well that most people in Western Europe probably do not want Albania, Bosnia or Kosovo in EU.
Kosovo cannot join as it is not a state!

I am in favour of Albania and Bosnia by the way!

Alban

pre 14 godina

The reason they don't want Serbia issuing passports is because they don't want Albanians travelling freely around Europe. For sure, Serbia will not join the EU with Kosovo. There is no way that the EU wants to increase it's Muslim population. Do you think your motherland and Turkey will join the EU?? Dream on. They will feed you a line. The best you can hope for is a preferential agreement with the EU.

--

Regarding religion: EU knows about Albanians and religion, but Orthodoxy isn't exactly a EU favorite. The main issue is Russia, who supports them and who doesn't.

dingdong

pre 14 godina

Alban

I wouldn't be so cocky. The reason they don't want Serbia issuing passports is because they don't want Albanians travelling freely around Europe. For sure, Serbia will not join the EU with Kosovo. There is no way that the EU wants to increase it's Muslim population. Do you think your motherland and Turkey will join the EU?? Dream on. They will feed you a line. The best you can hope for is a preferential agreement with the EU.

MyTwoCents

pre 14 godina

Kosovo status can only be reached with the mutual consent of the two parties involved. Trying to take Serbian land by force will not work. Why is that so hard to understand? If their is not mutual consent, there will never be peace in Kosovo. The people that live there know that. Do people really want to live like that?

ellinas

pre 14 godina

@dragomir. My dear serbian friend i am greek and i consider myself as "proserbian" whatever that means, so i have a dilemma on the one side i am for serbia on the other i want serbia to join EU. Now what can i do i love you guys and i dont want to see you separated away from the big party, together we are strong whatever happens and until somthing better arises at the horizont EU is the way to go, with all it's mistakes and biases. Imagine serbia being in EU and NATO do you thing the whole kosovo disaster would happened?

Alban

pre 14 godina

They sure "support" you. Word is that Serbia must NOT issue any more passports to Kosova citizens if Serbia wants to get visa free travel. I quote from the Swedish minister (they lead EU):
"‘We want to suspend visa regime with Serbia and not with Kosovo and we have a dialog on that issue with Serbia and not with Kosovo. The EU cannot negotiate and agree something with one state and then enforced that for another state as well’"

Is that really support?

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

I will state it again and will keep saying ,anyone that wants Serbia to join the EU is not for Serbia.Do you really believe that countries that demolished our country physically and mentally have our best interest at heart?Look at england who have been flooded with unskilled immigants.Look at germany who is now battling the EU over genetically engineered food.Look at portugal who's fishing rights have been cut drastically.Say NO TO EU.God bless the SOVEREIGN nation of Serbia and our holy church!

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

I will state it again and will keep saying ,anyone that wants Serbia to join the EU is not for Serbia.Do you really believe that countries that demolished our country physically and mentally have our best interest at heart?Look at england who have been flooded with unskilled immigants.Look at germany who is now battling the EU over genetically engineered food.Look at portugal who's fishing rights have been cut drastically.Say NO TO EU.God bless the SOVEREIGN nation of Serbia and our holy church!

MyTwoCents

pre 14 godina

Kosovo status can only be reached with the mutual consent of the two parties involved. Trying to take Serbian land by force will not work. Why is that so hard to understand? If their is not mutual consent, there will never be peace in Kosovo. The people that live there know that. Do people really want to live like that?

dingdong

pre 14 godina

Alban

I wouldn't be so cocky. The reason they don't want Serbia issuing passports is because they don't want Albanians travelling freely around Europe. For sure, Serbia will not join the EU with Kosovo. There is no way that the EU wants to increase it's Muslim population. Do you think your motherland and Turkey will join the EU?? Dream on. They will feed you a line. The best you can hope for is a preferential agreement with the EU.

ellinas

pre 14 godina

@dragomir. My dear serbian friend i am greek and i consider myself as "proserbian" whatever that means, so i have a dilemma on the one side i am for serbia on the other i want serbia to join EU. Now what can i do i love you guys and i dont want to see you separated away from the big party, together we are strong whatever happens and until somthing better arises at the horizont EU is the way to go, with all it's mistakes and biases. Imagine serbia being in EU and NATO do you thing the whole kosovo disaster would happened?

Alban

pre 14 godina

They sure "support" you. Word is that Serbia must NOT issue any more passports to Kosova citizens if Serbia wants to get visa free travel. I quote from the Swedish minister (they lead EU):
"‘We want to suspend visa regime with Serbia and not with Kosovo and we have a dialog on that issue with Serbia and not with Kosovo. The EU cannot negotiate and agree something with one state and then enforced that for another state as well’"

Is that really support?

Alban

pre 14 godina

The reason they don't want Serbia issuing passports is because they don't want Albanians travelling freely around Europe. For sure, Serbia will not join the EU with Kosovo. There is no way that the EU wants to increase it's Muslim population. Do you think your motherland and Turkey will join the EU?? Dream on. They will feed you a line. The best you can hope for is a preferential agreement with the EU.

--

Regarding religion: EU knows about Albanians and religion, but Orthodoxy isn't exactly a EU favorite. The main issue is Russia, who supports them and who doesn't.

George from Melbourne

pre 14 godina

Serbia and Greece together united!

Slowly but surely the small number of countries that recognised Kosovo ‘independence’ are realising their mistake.

All my friends here in Australia (of whatever faith or nationality) cannot believe some governments would be stupid enough to set up a narcoterrorist ‘state’ in the middle of Europe and so grossly violate international law.

Northern Epirus = Greece

Albanians - stop persecuting the Greeks of Northern Epirus!!!

Ron

pre 14 godina

It is a shame countries like Greece must save international law.

Why is the West destroying international law?

About Turkey: I think Turkey will indeed never join EU.

And I know very well that most people in Western Europe probably do not want Albania, Bosnia or Kosovo in EU.
Kosovo cannot join as it is not a state!

I am in favour of Albania and Bosnia by the way!

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

Alban

Since when did the EU ever have a problem with Orthodoxy? Romania, Greece, Bulgaria (EU members) and Macedonia (EU candidate) are all predominantly Orthodox.

The EU would DEFINITELY not prefer to take a muslim country into Europe over Orhtodox, if religion was the only factor that mattered for membership.

Honestly, why do you think Turkey is not in yet? They have been trying for decades!

Alban

pre 14 godina

"I am in favour of Albania and Bosnia by the way!"

Well "ron,"
with all do respect what you think doesn't matter. Albanians have powerful friends and we're in EU just as we got in NATO.

"Kosovo has powerful friends" is the headline of the US ambassador's speech for 4th of July. If Serbia was a western favorite we would be in trouble, but we're pro-west and the West wants Russia out. Once in EU we don't care

Peggy

pre 14 godina

George from Melbourne, You are right. Everyone I have talked to also finds what Albanians are doing unacceptable but sadly our Kevin Rudd is no different to John Howard when it comes to kissing the American behind.

A small country like NZ has not recognized Kosovo but Australia has only a couple of days after UDI and we thought that Kevin 07 was going to be different from little Johnny.

Also from Melbourne.

Aljosa

pre 14 godina

Dragoslav, I understand your thinking but come on you're not supposed to let emotions dictate politics. That didn't get us anywhere in the 90's and we kind of don't have a nuclear bomb to command respect like the west.

Serbia needs to have unity, strategy, continue developing and eventually join the EU.

The only concern i have is the Lisbon Treaty. If decision making is based on population representation and no right to veto then their might be trouble. What if they vote over the EU states that have not recognized Kosovo? Will this fall under EU foreign policy or internal matters of the EU? Serbia should judge if that time comes and let elections decide if EU is in Serbia's interests. No wonder why Vaclav Claus and others are increasingly becoming EU skeptics. But hey, if it is passed, Serbs can make fun of their EU neighbours on how they've lost their soverignty. There are more scary things in that treaty that have a hint of totalitarianism but that doesn't change that majority of EU citizens are good minded people who do not wish Serbia any ill. They're are also worried about EUs direction.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

there has been a Europe long before it became trendy to call it the EU and serbia was part of that Europe longer than America has been a country.For the [people that say "its not great but...".In the EU serbia will have to import what it already has,it will have to open its borders to people who have been trying to erase our borders for centuries,our once superior educational system will fall to the level of england or God forbid US,we will have to embrace(so to speak)homosexuality,atheism,.The EU is an old totaltarian idea that wasnt able to be implimented before because of the old generation that believed in God and freedom and new better.Now that the WW2 geration is passing on who will protect our faith and freedom,the coca-cola,american idol,mcdonalds,reality Tv generation.God help us!So with that being said God bless the sovereign nation of serbia and our holy church!

lili

pre 14 godina

an islamic country?
kosovo has less muslims than France,who has 5 millions of them and not as cool muslims as kosovar ones!Not to talk of germany and GB etc...wake up,see reality!
morover,we already are for 1/4 of us in evrope!

MyTwoCents

pre 14 godina

Kosovo status can only be reached with the mutual consent of the two parties involved. Trying to take Serbian land by force will not work. Why is that so hard to understand? If their is not mutual consent, there will never be peace in Kosovo. The people that live there know that. Do people really want to live like that?

Alban

pre 14 godina

They sure "support" you. Word is that Serbia must NOT issue any more passports to Kosova citizens if Serbia wants to get visa free travel. I quote from the Swedish minister (they lead EU):
"‘We want to suspend visa regime with Serbia and not with Kosovo and we have a dialog on that issue with Serbia and not with Kosovo. The EU cannot negotiate and agree something with one state and then enforced that for another state as well’"

Is that really support?

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

I will state it again and will keep saying ,anyone that wants Serbia to join the EU is not for Serbia.Do you really believe that countries that demolished our country physically and mentally have our best interest at heart?Look at england who have been flooded with unskilled immigants.Look at germany who is now battling the EU over genetically engineered food.Look at portugal who's fishing rights have been cut drastically.Say NO TO EU.God bless the SOVEREIGN nation of Serbia and our holy church!

Ron

pre 14 godina

It is a shame countries like Greece must save international law.

Why is the West destroying international law?

About Turkey: I think Turkey will indeed never join EU.

And I know very well that most people in Western Europe probably do not want Albania, Bosnia or Kosovo in EU.
Kosovo cannot join as it is not a state!

I am in favour of Albania and Bosnia by the way!

dingdong

pre 14 godina

Alban

I wouldn't be so cocky. The reason they don't want Serbia issuing passports is because they don't want Albanians travelling freely around Europe. For sure, Serbia will not join the EU with Kosovo. There is no way that the EU wants to increase it's Muslim population. Do you think your motherland and Turkey will join the EU?? Dream on. They will feed you a line. The best you can hope for is a preferential agreement with the EU.

ellinas

pre 14 godina

@dragomir. My dear serbian friend i am greek and i consider myself as "proserbian" whatever that means, so i have a dilemma on the one side i am for serbia on the other i want serbia to join EU. Now what can i do i love you guys and i dont want to see you separated away from the big party, together we are strong whatever happens and until somthing better arises at the horizont EU is the way to go, with all it's mistakes and biases. Imagine serbia being in EU and NATO do you thing the whole kosovo disaster would happened?

Alban

pre 14 godina

The reason they don't want Serbia issuing passports is because they don't want Albanians travelling freely around Europe. For sure, Serbia will not join the EU with Kosovo. There is no way that the EU wants to increase it's Muslim population. Do you think your motherland and Turkey will join the EU?? Dream on. They will feed you a line. The best you can hope for is a preferential agreement with the EU.

--

Regarding religion: EU knows about Albanians and religion, but Orthodoxy isn't exactly a EU favorite. The main issue is Russia, who supports them and who doesn't.

Alban

pre 14 godina

"I am in favour of Albania and Bosnia by the way!"

Well "ron,"
with all do respect what you think doesn't matter. Albanians have powerful friends and we're in EU just as we got in NATO.

"Kosovo has powerful friends" is the headline of the US ambassador's speech for 4th of July. If Serbia was a western favorite we would be in trouble, but we're pro-west and the West wants Russia out. Once in EU we don't care

George from Melbourne

pre 14 godina

Serbia and Greece together united!

Slowly but surely the small number of countries that recognised Kosovo ‘independence’ are realising their mistake.

All my friends here in Australia (of whatever faith or nationality) cannot believe some governments would be stupid enough to set up a narcoterrorist ‘state’ in the middle of Europe and so grossly violate international law.

Northern Epirus = Greece

Albanians - stop persecuting the Greeks of Northern Epirus!!!

Peter Sudyka

pre 14 godina

Alban

Since when did the EU ever have a problem with Orthodoxy? Romania, Greece, Bulgaria (EU members) and Macedonia (EU candidate) are all predominantly Orthodox.

The EU would DEFINITELY not prefer to take a muslim country into Europe over Orhtodox, if religion was the only factor that mattered for membership.

Honestly, why do you think Turkey is not in yet? They have been trying for decades!

lili

pre 14 godina

an islamic country?
kosovo has less muslims than France,who has 5 millions of them and not as cool muslims as kosovar ones!Not to talk of germany and GB etc...wake up,see reality!
morover,we already are for 1/4 of us in evrope!

Aljosa

pre 14 godina

Dragoslav, I understand your thinking but come on you're not supposed to let emotions dictate politics. That didn't get us anywhere in the 90's and we kind of don't have a nuclear bomb to command respect like the west.

Serbia needs to have unity, strategy, continue developing and eventually join the EU.

The only concern i have is the Lisbon Treaty. If decision making is based on population representation and no right to veto then their might be trouble. What if they vote over the EU states that have not recognized Kosovo? Will this fall under EU foreign policy or internal matters of the EU? Serbia should judge if that time comes and let elections decide if EU is in Serbia's interests. No wonder why Vaclav Claus and others are increasingly becoming EU skeptics. But hey, if it is passed, Serbs can make fun of their EU neighbours on how they've lost their soverignty. There are more scary things in that treaty that have a hint of totalitarianism but that doesn't change that majority of EU citizens are good minded people who do not wish Serbia any ill. They're are also worried about EUs direction.

Dragoslav

pre 14 godina

there has been a Europe long before it became trendy to call it the EU and serbia was part of that Europe longer than America has been a country.For the [people that say "its not great but...".In the EU serbia will have to import what it already has,it will have to open its borders to people who have been trying to erase our borders for centuries,our once superior educational system will fall to the level of england or God forbid US,we will have to embrace(so to speak)homosexuality,atheism,.The EU is an old totaltarian idea that wasnt able to be implimented before because of the old generation that believed in God and freedom and new better.Now that the WW2 geration is passing on who will protect our faith and freedom,the coca-cola,american idol,mcdonalds,reality Tv generation.God help us!So with that being said God bless the sovereign nation of serbia and our holy church!

Peggy

pre 14 godina

George from Melbourne, You are right. Everyone I have talked to also finds what Albanians are doing unacceptable but sadly our Kevin Rudd is no different to John Howard when it comes to kissing the American behind.

A small country like NZ has not recognized Kosovo but Australia has only a couple of days after UDI and we thought that Kevin 07 was going to be different from little Johnny.

Also from Melbourne.