Tadić says he "expects explanation"

Why am I not suprised?
I knew that Ceku would be released because US has a lot of influence over these small Balkan countries.

Seeing how the US and the west are not interested in justice but only to punish Serbs and control Serbia, anyone here who still thinks that Mladic should be sent to Hague should have their head examined.

Is this not proof enough that nobody wants justice but only punishment for Serbs?

Stick with Russia and China and give these hypocrites the flick.

Still, there is one good thing that has come out of all this. Ceku is running out of countries he can trave to without being arrested.

Either the Serbian politicians are wrong about this, or the whole world is out to get them.
I do not know what is more plausible.

One thing which i wonder the most is!!

When will Serbian politicians realise that no one is taking them seriously anymore.
Stop with this silly games, wake up and smell the coffee. Its USA interests and there is no way that you will achieve anything but keep your people into dark.
You can not win against them. its over. Kosovo is USA interest and there is no going back to ruling there by Silly Serbian Politicians.

Ceku is a hero!

He is the pride of Albanians.

He fought and won.

The only regret that I have is that he joined UCK only on April 1999.

If Serbia has any evidence on Ceku send them to Hague.


And in the end why didn't your glorious army arrested him while he was in uniform or even today he lives in the "holy" "Serbian" Kosova in Prishtina, coome and take him. Hi is all day in his home in Prishtina.

"“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić

and you are not? well be very ashamed that you still protect war criminals such as Mladic and co.

we all know you protect your criminals.

“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić said.

Jeremic, your country is not ashamed for killing 10,000 civilians in Kosova, for burning 120,000 homes and deporting 1 million people out of their homes - women, children and elderly in biblical proportions - but you want Bulgaria to be ashamed for not considering your fraudulent indictments? Bulgaria has recognized Kosova as an independent state, therefore in their view Serbia has no jurisdiction over the Kosovar citizens. ICTY is the court that judges war crimes in ex-Jugo, they have looked into Ceku's record and have not found evidence to prosecute him. For someone that supposedly upholds the intl law, you should know better. Serbian charges against Ceku and other Kosovar politicians, are motivated by ethnic hatred and designed to cause instability and ethnic conflict in Kosova, but the rest of the world sees thru your thinly veiled racism, and that's why over and over again these indictments are being thrown out in one country after the other. There is not one single politician or prominent Kosovar that have not been accused by Serbia for one thing or another. Even Rugova and Agani were accused of being irredentists, terrorists and separatists. Ceku should hold his head high, for using his military experience to honorably come to the defense of its own people, and to end the state-sponsored reign of terror on its populace.

If anyone should be ashamed, it should be the state that Jeremic represents for housing and protecting child-killers and mass-murderers such as Mladic and Hadzic.

Jeremic's disappointments are reaching critical level.

Sorry but, more disappointments are on the way for Mr. Jeremic.

I advice him to visit a 'disappointment specialist'(@ Mr. Hashim Thaci's clinic, Down Town Prishtina, to cure/facilitate his future health conditions.

Heed this advice for cure

It's an incredible shame this man was released, but it's an even bigger shame that Bulgaria caved to interantional pressure, most likely coming from Washington (and I wouldn't be surprised if Kouchner once again was needed to bail out his Golden Boy). There can be no doubt Ceku's release waqs the result of arm twisting, political wrangling, and quite possibly a good amount of bribe money involved. But what makes it worst is that Sofia seems willing to risk relations with Serbia, a real country, over Kosovo, an international protectorate. Once again, an Albanian war criminal bribed his way out of facing justice. Incredibly sad.

with all respect mr Wolf, not eventue Russians would give you Ceku. No need to feel ashamed as obviously the file of discovery sent to Bulgaria did not match international standards as far as evidence is concerned.
The thing you should be ashamed of is that Ceku is walking with his chest proud while your crminals are hidding like rats in the dark.
Ps: ps this is real diplomacy from the US. Failing to extriddite a real thug who manipulated the already corrupt serbien national institution to give him a fake passport to avoid court hearing.
Jeremic now you know how your neighbours feel, let alone the world.

I think the world of real politic just showed its real face. What shame! When a Serb is accused of war crimes, there is no question by anyone and every country immediately arrests and extradites him. When Serbia accuses someone, no one believes it or cooperates. The United States clearly made quiet calls to Sofia to pressure the Bulgars to release Ceku. It's so obvious. This is truly disgusting and shameful politics. I can now understand completely why Serbs see bias against them in the Hague and elsewhere.

Time to recall the Ambassador Jeremic. Stop crying Wolf every time you lose a political battle. Serbia is not a guarantor of International law, but you wouldn't know that by reading Jeremic's statement.

Ceku said today that one good thing that may come out of his arrest is the fact that he saw the accusations against him and he said they were "laughable and imaginary". He said he intends to use those documents to show Interpol that Serbia issues phony and political warrants. Nice! Shoot yourself in the foot again Jeremic.

"...his buddy MLADIC is running around free within Serbia."
AlbanskiPatriot

At least we don't have warcriminals running our everyday lives like you have in Kosovo.

I have not expected anything else from Bulgarians. It seems that Bulgaria is becoming one of the biggest American satellites in Europe after Kosovo and Poland.

Cheku's extradition to Serbia would worsen diplomatic relation and raise ethnic tensions in Kosovo? That is what you know the best, to threat with violence. And it seems that you get away with it. But not for long.

“I was an actor in many political events, so my extradition could worsen the orderly ethnic relations in Kosovo and could eventually complicate relations between the two countries,” Ceku said upon release.

I think that one statement pretty much sums up the entire Kosovo international fiasco. And that's why Ceku was released- he knows too much and would be a severe embarrassment for the West if he was extradited to Serbia. And then the other comment by Bulgaria that by extraditing Ceku, relations between Bulgaria and Kosovo would get worse- well, apparently Bulgaria values Kosovo relations more than relations with Serbia. In reality, Bulgaria is petrified of the K-Albs and the "house of cards" that they control. Bulgaria just made their relations with Serbia that much more tenuous- which will be bad for Balkan stability- but something that the West delights in.....

"whole world is out to get them.
I do not know what is more plausible."
(Geni, 26 June 2009 10:44)

Geni, what is "the whole world"? Ruling elite or those indifferent brainwashed middle-class sandwich-eaters, who think that Albania is in Africa and that official language in Serbia is English?

However, western community isn't unanimous over Kosovo issue at all..
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12378

I`v never seen a diplomat which is so fix and paranoid to damage relationship with everybody. Jeremic must be so frustrated that his tongue is faster then his brain. Jeremic. You should be ashamed to continue Milosevic´s policy. You and Serbia do not have the exclusive patent of international law which you can interpreted as you would like.

Someone said it best in the comments over the past few days. Although some countries would never extradite Ceku to Serbia, as long as he keeps on getting arrested, his life will be difficult. He cannot pretend it's not a hindrance because it is; he'll always be looking over his shoulder. At any rate, this goes to show what Kosovo's future will be all about. Even with a couple of the more powerful nations in the world supporting Kosovo, Kosovo's Albanians will never be able to squash Serbia's spirit to fight. Each step Kosovo's Albanian government tries to take forward will be like trying to run in quicksand.

Jeremic will always disappoint himself when talking about Kosovo. I say he is a HYPOCRITE. At the same time he is asking for CEKU to be delivered to Serbia, his buddy MLADIC is running around free within Serbia. Well that is a bigger reason for disappointment Mr. Jeremic, wouldn't your agree??

It was really tense there for a whole 5 seconds, apparently the possibility that a real "Butcher of the Balkans" could actually be prosecuted for real crimes was just too much to bear
Now, do not wonder why Serbs do not want to give up Mladic.
Again, politics wins over justice.
And not a surprise at all, maybe now they will give him the Nobel Prize for Peace too.
Bulgarian politicians: you have all the reasons to be very, very ashamed of yourself.

This is excellent evidence to use in the ICJ case: Serbia can prove that america and its allies repeatedly violate and disrespect international law and this is a recent occurance. This makes biden into a liar when he said the us wants better relations with Serbia; obviously the us bribed the Bulgarians again. Also, Serbia can tell the Russians that they interact with the Bulgarians on the pipeline; Serbia does not have to talk to them. Finally, it is insults like this that will topple the Tadic government and bring the Radicals to power. When the eu refuses to abolish visa restrictions at the end of this year; Tadic is gotov.
The opposition is much better in using the ICJ verdict against the UDI to Serbia's advantage.

As long as Balkan nations are poor and weak there can be no true democracy or justice. Intimidation and curruption will always prevail. Funny how the West complain that curruption is still high in the Balkans while they are the ones showing the way. America, Russia and some European countries have their own form of justice and its anything but just and fair. It's all about personal interest and nothing about fairness. When it comes to the Balkans there can be no peace without justice. Despite Serbias past its one of few countries that has shown maturity and true democracy.

“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić said.
But a lot worse has happened in Serbia and we are yet to see any display of shame or sorrow. Mr Jeremic, you'd better brace yourself for more disappointment.

Mike

Innocent until proven guilty my friend. From your statement, I gather you subscribe to the Serbian standard of "guilty and we will be damned if we allow you to ever prove your innocence".

Mr. Jeremic, the term disappointment does not exist in diplomacy, or it shouldn’t. Coming up with such a childish assertion is nothing but ignorance. We can all assume of the risk and tensions that might escalated, in case of an eventual extradition. Though, Bulgaria is already EU member, and firm established society; it doesn’t fall into situations that have no sense and are unserious, therefore they don’t have to be ashamed of any action taken that is disliked by such baseless politics.
This is another clear indication to the civilized world that Kosovo Albanian’s aspirations have been both sincere and appropriate.

This disapoitment of Serbia is the best thing since independence of Kosovo. I feel so damn good to hear you Jeremic :)

we all know you protect your criminals.
(theKosovar, 26 June 2009 11:16)

If this isn't he pot calling the kettle black.

All the countries that ceku visits, the government(s) has to honor the red notice on him. He should be the man that he claims he is & just put up the white flag & take a trip to Beograd, on us!

The invaders of Kosovo will realize how the US perpetrates being a friend & then will pull the rug out from under you....it's all in time.

CCCC

You can blame US influence all you want, if it makes you feel better. But reality is that countries who arrest Ceku because of interpol warrants and then release him upon investigation of charges, are making an evaluation of the justice system in Serbia.
Another huge embarassment for Serbia, but another win for true international justice not the propaganda version.

"so my extradition could worsen the orderly ethnic relations in Kosovo and could eventually complicate relations between the two countries".

This is a statement but not an argument.

No surprises really. It was strange that Ceku claimed to be invited to Bulgaria although the officials there claimed he wasn't. Maybe they just set this up to get some hard cash from those "international actors" negotiating his release?

But on another point, why should any country take Serbia seriously when they know Tadic is too toothless to take any action? Serbia will continue to be walked over while he remains president.

To the RS gov/MUP: in order to reach people standing below the law, use methods below the law, like the israeli did:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God

Jeremic, your country is not ashamed for killing 10,000 civilians in Kosova, for burning 120,000 homes and deporting 1 million people out of their homes - women, children and elderly in biblical proportions

(Adrian Gashi, 26 June 2009 15:19)

Yes, I am surprised:

- it's only 10,000 and not 100,000
- only 120,000 homes were burned, not 1,200,000
- that they did not invade Naboo yet
- Darth Vader did not came to Kosova in person to kill every tenth Albanian

How more fairy tales we need to hear? Like stories spread all over internet "my poor 5 year old niece was killed and raped by brutal Serbian police because she had an Albanian flag in her hands"

Yeah, right... than everyone would be killed in Kosovo who attends an Albanian wedding.

Such numbers and stories can be sold to Roberto from Frisco. But you should try harder to convince me, in particular that I spoke with REAL people from Albanian part of Kosovo and not with people who has the job to lie.

"“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić

and you are not? well be very ashamed that you still protect war criminals such as Mladic and co.

we all know you protect your criminals.
(theKosovar, 26 June 2009 11:16)

Where is the incentive for Serbia to capture Mladic and extradite hime when something like this happens? I cannot even begin to undestand the logic of the countries involved in securing this release. The plain and simple fact should be this...if someone is accused of war crimes, no matter what nationality they are, they should stand trial. How can everyone accuse Serbia of not accepting this fact when they have captured and extradited all but 2 of their alleged war criminals and then something like this happens? I really struggle, from an unbiased perspective, to understand the logic of this apparent double standard. The same rules have to apply to all people no matter what their background. Is this really so difficult to understand? Someone, somewhere, eventually has to realise that this is the only fair and balanced way to proceed. Crime is crime and justice is justice and there has to be no exception to this fact.

There is a reason why Serbia fought 2 wars with Bulgaria in the 20th Century which included WW2. Too bad, but it comes as no surprise.

Let us not be impatient, he will eventually end up where he belongs.

Tadic may faint outrage but he knows that Serbia had no case against Ceku.

Ceku's main defence before the Bulgarian court, which B92 does not include in its report, was that he is not a citizen of Serbia and has never been one and Serbia cannot request the arrest and extradition of foreign citizens. Bulgaria has recognised Kosova as an independent country so it cannot enact warrents issued by Serbia. This is the crux of the matter. Hurt pride may prevent Tadic or Jeremic to admit it but this game of pretend sovereignty over Kosova is becoming very silly.

I honestly can understand joyous screams of Albanian posters.What I can't and won't accept it is their twisted sense of justice ,generally speaking.It's so easy to accept command responsibility of any Serbian officer or politician,however,everything is being turned upside down when it comes to some Albanian "hero".These double standards in today politics will drag this world into chaos where nobody's going to profit from it.Misery & hipocrisy already rule the world.

Jeremic, this wasn't a devastating blow to international law, but a devastating blow to Serbian politics. Serbia's appeal doesn't have to do with law or justice, at all. It is rather a political sharade supposed to divert the heavy giult of Serbia, regarding the horrible atrocities committed in 5 countries of the former SFRY. After Serbia apparently failed in hiding its atrocities (we remember the statements of Belgrad: "we never committed crimes", while in Bataijnica the bodies of dead Albanians had been piled up), it moved on in the strategy to defame the other side as being AT LEAST just as horrible. This doesn't work. The truth is already clear and well-written. Serbia has once and for all to face that and to formerly apologize to all people of the Western Balkans without softening this a little bit. The Germans did the same, even when they were target of horrible crimes during and especially after the WW2 as well. As long as Serbia doesn't do that, along finding peace with all neighboring countries including Kosovo, it will only face the same walls, just as here, where Bulgaria did not give-in in Serbia's political sharades.

It must have been Michael Jacksons' last wish to have Ceku set free.

"if someone is accused of war crimes, no matter what nationality they are, they should stand trial."

There is a special court, in the Hague, with jurisdiction on war crimes in the territory of formery Yugoslavia. Cangaroo courts in Serbia or anywhere else in the Balkans can't be allowed to advance ethnic agendas.

Bulgaria: Promptly proceed with extradition of Agim Ceku to Serbia
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR15/003/2009/en/ad9a7d84-f425-41e0-9d6d-54d1094731dc/eur150032009eng.html

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

PUBLIC STATEMENT

The Bulgarian authorities should extradite Agim Ceku promptly to Serbia where his case should be prosecuted in line with international fair trial standards. UNMIK should not take any steps to obstruct justice by intervening in the Bulgarian extradition proceedings to prevent his extradition, absent any risk of human rights violations.

Does Jeremic think that he is the only one that knows International Law? Obviously Bulgarian Court disagrees. I am just wondering if ICJ comes with an opinion that Kosova/o had the right to secede what would Jeremic have to say...Anyway fun to read this kind of stuff.

Where is Hague now?

Could our plan be working any better? Not only have we have managed to rip Kosova away from Serbia; now we get to watch them embarrass themselves on an international stage!! Greater Albania here we come!!!

Hopefully this business with Mr. Ceku is over and Serbia starts looking for war criminals they have jurisdiction over (Mladic!!!).

CEKU IS A HERO!!!

I think the world of real politic just showed its real face. What shame! When a Serb is accused of war crimes, there is no question by anyone and every country immediately arrests and extradites him. When Serbia accuses someone, no one believes it or cooperates. The United States clearly made quiet calls to Sofia to pressure the Bulgars to release Ceku. It's so obvious. This is truly disgusting and shameful politics. I can now understand completely why Serbs see bias against them in the Hague and elsewhere.
(NiholasThompson, 26 June 2009 15:13)

I tell you the real thing here man,just so you understand the situation,the warrant against Ceku is the same warrant that all Albanians had in 1999 war in Kosovo,it's basically political strategy and lies but not based in facts,What are they going to charge him for shooting Serbian troops?well what he was suposed to do sit and watch,and having him tried in Serbian court it's basically the same as trying a poor man in post comunist era in Albania because he did say I can't feed my family,ridiculus.
And by the way the Serbian court just convicted a man 20 years for killing 14 Kosovo Albanian women and children, get my point right?
here's the link if you want to know further.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3520370.stm

PS: Ataman,so basically the Kosovo Albanian victims are just fiction for you? or they just happened to disapear,new trend nowadays?
It's all documented my friend and nothing can erase it,not even the lies of Serbian government.

Is Tadic tring to blackmail Bulgaria? From this Mr Tadic you should learn for the EU integration of Serbia. It will not be as easy as you are telling the serbian people.

Serbia should stop abusing with her membership in Interpol since no one takes her claims seriously.

I do agree with Daniel when he states that no matter what Kosova Govt will do Serbia will try to make the life of Kosovars hard and harder. This is exactly the maniacal attitude of Serbia that is not happy to see someone prospering. This is the culture to which Kosova said enough is enough good bye forever.

Today AUSTRIAN authorities after a warrant arrest coming from Serbia for the K-Albanian F. Noshaj extradited Noshaj to Kosova not Serbia. Serbia will never ever again have any authority over Kosova and her citizens.

And you can be sure that it’s gone be tit-for-tat. As soon as Kosova becomes member of Interpol many Serbians that committed horrible crimes in Kosova will be haunted. You cannot kill civilians, children’s and hide their bodies hundreds of kilometres far and walk free. You will go to jail.

Just two days ago in Vlore the Montenegrin president and Kosova’s president agreed that the Kosovar refugees must reposes their properties but the one that have committed crimes must go in front of the justice.

To the RS gov/MUP: in order to reach people standing below the law, use methods below the law, like the israeli did:

(sudzuk, 26 June 2009 12:28)

Even if "yes", waiting till ICJ decision is advised. Besides:
- currently Serbia has no infrastructure to do it "properly", unless they "outsource", somewhat unlikely.
- I don't think the vengeance is a high priority.
- Such things do more damage than good
- Ceku has high connections to Serbia Proper, not much can be done
- If Serbia wants Kosovo fail miserably: they should make sure, Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and the rest are at the steering wheel of the "country" as long as possible, not eliminate them.

These people are not the "salvation" of Kosovo, but it's trouble. With them - see the few HONEST Albanian posters - Kosovo is doomed to fail and at one point Albanians will have to face their failure, not to blame Milosevic anymore. But... looking at million lies they spread all over internet I have my worries, the over-all sense of morale. We did see few honest posters in last few days, hopefully the situation is not that bad as we would judge from the "quality" of postings.

- These criminals dream to eliminate each other, why help Thaci against Ceku? All we have to say: we wish maximal luck and success for both Thaci and Ceku while they are fighting against each other.

I would not blame Bulgaria - they are as toothless as Serbia and completely on mercy of some world's villains. In last 20 years they exchanged one villain overlord to an other, here is a consequence. We know precisely how Bulgarians think regarding this matter but you can't expect them to bite a hand stronger than the entire country.

At last but not least: please, for god's sake, make the Albanian fanboyz feel, they are victorious over and over. Until the Serbian cultural heritage is in the area they control. Or do you need Bogorodica Levishka to burn again?

All I can say is, if Albanians viw people like Ceku, Thaci, and Haradjinaj as heros, then you are a disgrace. Do a Wikipedia, or Google search on these war criminals, and feel even prouder.

Piro,

I'm assuming you're writing to me since you addressed your comment as "Mike" and not "MikeC". Let me enlighten you a little since you seem to be an expert on who's a hero in Serbia.

Mladic is not a hero in Serbia as you claim. Mladic is a nonentity. There are people who think he's a "hero" but they are a dwindling minority. Since he's been out of the spotlight, an entire generation of Serbs have grown up not knowing who he is. You can't even find shops that sell Mladic memorabilia anymore outside one small little pathetic looking kiosk at the main train station. Pro-Mladic graffiti is quickly crossed out by anti nationalists. For whatever reasons you've been led to believe Mladic is not only a hero in Serbia but seems to walk free and proud, I can only surmise is either an unfortunate side affect of mindless Albanian nationalism, or is a result of the yellow journalism that continues to pass for objective news in Albanian newspapers.

Now contrast this with the comments here where fellow Neo-Illyrians praise Ceku as a hero. If people like Ceku are considered heroes in Albanian popular memory, then Albanians continue to suffer from a lack of positive role models and resemble the gangster-worship that plagued Serbia during the early to mid 1990s.

I'm currently in Serbia right now. I'd offer to be your host for a few days and show you around, but I feel you might suffer a breakdown from seeing the opposite of what you think is here.

Cheers.

Tadic needs explanation? Of course I am here to help)
Tadic,
You aim is not Agim Ceku but to discredit the KLA war against Serbia. Ceku was a professional soldier, a polititian who is contributing to peace and stability in the region. Why do you want Ceku? To destabilise Kosova and "prove" to the international community how "threatened" are the Serbians in Kosova....
If Hague would ask Ceku to appear HE as got the guts like Haradinaj to show up voluntarily.

Jeremic, why are you commenting on indicments that are not credible and not based on facts.
With this you have shown that nobody takes you serioulsy and yet you tell your people that you are their FM.Does this mean that you are tellign people that voted for your party not to vote anymore since you cannot represent them with dignity. What a disgrace

Mike,

Ceku is declared criminal by Sebia, not the international community. This make a huge difference. In a country where criminals are treated as heros, as is the case of Mladic and co, the justice system doesn't have very much credibility in the eyes of the civilized world. As another poster stated above, ceku is not hidding, apparently he has nothing to hide, Mladic does and is given full protection by the serbian state. You can not always blame the international community for everything. Clean up your mess first and show the world that you have really distanced youselves from the medieval mentality and then the world would listen to you with more attention and respect. I understand that your current government is trying to improve serbia's image abroad. They have achieved quite a lot in recent years, but you have still a bumpy road ahead of you. Good luck!

La la la. Here is the simple reason Serbia intentionaly wants to increase conflict. There is a seperate court fir former yugo wars. Many Serbs and the rest of yugo countries army leaders faced it. The burdon of proof lies with the prosecution. In regard to Kosovo Serbia could not find zilch hence Haradina set free and Ceku to follow. Serbia knew this is no good so they just thought better to do something than nothing so Interpol came second.
Relying on international law is very sweet but you have to take the full package not gassing your arguments on Del Pontes fiction. Serbian secret service has reached to America and Australia western europeans have fallen victims to it and you tell me one of your comanders in civilian uniform couldn't walk to Albania to find a glowing couloured house? Hehe I wonder why.

Thanks for your post, Little Russia
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12378
Says it all.

I don't think anyone in the world is suprised by this outcome - even you Mr. Jeremic.

To Mospyt, #28: First: You and your fellow ceku have very specific understanding of the law and international law in particular. To be tried in any country, you don't have to be a citizen of it. You just have to commit something in that country. And events in question were committed in Serbia ( regarding Kosovo's UDI or not).
Second: Why is he so afraid to stand Serbian trial. If he is innocent, it might be proved with huge contribution for Kosovo. But he is trying to avoid it, probably, because is has something to hide.

He cannot pretend it's not a hindrance because it is; he'll always be looking over his shoulder. At any rate, this goes to show what Kosovo's future will be all about. Even with a couple of the more powerful nations in the world supporting Kosovo, Kosovo's Albanians will never be able to squash Serbia's spirit to fight. Each step Kosovo's Albanian government tries to take forward will be like trying to run in quicksand.
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Daniel this really shows Serbia's frustration, that's all. Serbia will continue this until US /EU decide they have had enough and cut the aid. As for Kosova, serbia can play some games because Albanians don't want to reciprocate--at least for a while.

Serbia is ISOLATED, most of EU and NATO by far recognize and support Kosova. Serbia has no say in Kosova and its officials can't even get in.

The rest is spin and pure desperation on Serbia's side.

Greater Albania here we come!!!
(Burim Krasniqi, 26 June 2009 18:33)

Me thinks, the explanation is much easier. Agim Ceku was directly involved in many military operations where undercover NATO agents were involved, too. Him standing trial = some of NATO's dirty underpants would be exposed. And no wonder, State Department tries to prevent it at any cost.

Regardless, that "Great Albania" belongs to trash heap of history. We don't need that in Europe.

Tadic wants an explanation? Can he be that naive or is simply just starting to become mad? In which universe is he or his (pro-)Serbian supporters? Maybe somebody should wake them up.

"Second: Why is he so afraid to stand Serbian trial. If he is innocent, it might be proved with huge contribution for Kosovo. But he is trying to avoid it, probably, because is has something to hide.
(passing by, 26 June 2009 19:13) "

It's because it would not be a fair trial off course. Just to offer some proof here, three Bytyqi brothers from Atlantic Brigade were once detained there and guess what? They got executed without a trial in Belegrade. Not to mention victims recovered from Batajnica.

“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić

You should be ashamed Mr. Jeremic you gave Kovacevic or whatever this thug's name is a passport to run from USA. So if you don't respect the international law, how do you expect Bulgaria to give you the same courtesy? What about your two accused war-criminals hiding in Serbia? You should be ashamed of them. They are being accused by an international court which holds more weight than your silly Interpol arrest and silly accusations. You allowed the whole country to suffer and setback on the SAA as a result of not arresting two criminals in your own country. The only people to be ashamed are you and your gov't Mr. Jeremic, nobody else.

There wasn't a slightly doubt that he will be released, it really doesn't matter since for too long we are used to dirty politics all around the world.
What is however more appealing for Kosovo people is that too many are blindly following a bunch of bloody handed criminals which were on and off intl terrorist list (depending how far they were ready to do some dirty job for some western countries).
Like Ataman said, as long as this is the case Kosovos has no future and will remain a hole on the map.
I was however positively surprised that some "stop the massacre" K-Albania voices started emerging
on this site and can only wish them good luck.
Of course the "hard liners" on this site immediately treated them as traitors...

Or what will tadic do?
Pick the best answer
1-Do nothing
2-Writte a letter where he explains why he will say nasty things to the serbian press about Bullgaria and begging not to have their Eu aspirations shut down
3-He will repeat the same as Jeremic Foreign power beyond our control interfered
4- Aliens were responsible for releasing Ceku

whatever Boris says he must be happy that tha Bulgarians as usual obeyed their patron. Otherwise Serbia would have another item of long lasting confrontation. But Toma ( if elected ) would be happy to have Ceku in Belgrade.

'Someone said it best in the comments over the past few days. Although some countries would never extradite Ceku to Serbia, as long as he keeps on getting arrested, his life will be difficult.'

This could change. In an interview published in Kosovo Times today, Ceku said that he now has the documents that Serbia submitted to Interpol to justify its request for a Red Notice listing him. Since he says the evidence is fabricated, this gives the Prishtina government and his lawyers grounds for requesting Interpol to remove his name - and those of others - from this list. If Serbia's evidence wasn't good enough for the Hague, it may not be good enough for Interpol, either.

Bulgaria: Promptly proceed with extradition of Agim Ceku to Serbia

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

PUBLIC STATEMENT

The Bulgarian authorities should extradite Agim Ceku promptly to Serbia where his case should be prosecuted in line with international fair trial standards. UNMIK should not take any steps to obstruct justice by intervening in the Bulgarian extradition proceedings to prevent his extradition, absent any risk of human rights violations.
(Danny, 26 June 2009 17:51)

Danny,

Some have selective feel for justice and love "Amnesty International" only if it does support their views. Here I better to stop otherwise I will be very offensive. This "selective justice" says it all.

The only article related to Ceku on the Interpol website is this:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/PressReleases/PR2006/PR200608.asp

The list of people Serbia is looking for through Interpol is this:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Wanted/Search/ResultListNew.asp?EntityName=&EntityForename=&EntityNationality=&EntityAgeBetween=15&EntityAgeAnd=95&EntitySex=&EntityEyeColor=&EntityHairColor=&EntityOffence=&ArrestWarrantIssuedBy=SERBIA&EntityFullText=&cboNbHitsPerPage=8&cboNbPages=20&Search=Search

Agim Ceku is not there.

If you want to do the search by yourself try this:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Wanted/Search/Form.asp

and put Serbia as the country who has issued the arrest warrant.

on the other hand there's hundreds of articles from newspapers around the world with words like 'Bulgaria stops/frees Agim Ceku due to arrest warrant issued by Serbia'.

Serbia's people in charge of this are playing with procedures of Interpol. I can imagine a Bulgarian/Colombian officer who gets a request from Serbia to arrest somebody who has 'killed' 669 people, and stops him, just to be sure, waiting for further instructions. Catch him first, then say "I'm sorry" later. I would do the same, if I were in them, and had no idea. Only if Serbian professionals go on like this, they will continue to loose credibility with other professionals around the world, but will get a lot of articles.

talk about propaganda Ataman et al.

Of course the "hard liners" on this site immediately treated them as traitors...
(The Swiss, 26 June 2009 22:38)

This is why I hardened my stance. There ARE reasonable people, they are the majority. I have no idea why should we remain "politically correct" to a bunch of trollers or seek some kind of the dialogue with them. These few posts in last few days made it clear: the situation is not that bad. We should look forward to come together with the people who grew up to 21st century - even if our opinion is often not the same, there is nothing wrong with that.

I have more and more feeling, we here try to argue our way through some 12th century mentality, not 21st. We shouldn't be the mental doctors.

I fully understand the B92 stance: they won't remove all that insanity because otherwise they would be accused for being on "Serbian" side. So (mostly) all that cr@p stays and automatically damages Kosovo's name horribly.

What is amazing - many if not most of these people are posting from West Europe, USA, Canada. Didn't they learn some culture? I know the infamous "black sheep" picture in Switzerland. I don't like that picture - but wonder, who could be the "model"... :(

Ceku is a europian hero not only Kosovar.

PS: Ataman,so basically the Kosovo Albanian victims are just fiction for you? or they just happened to disapear,new trend nowadays?
It's all documented my friend and nothing can erase it,not even the lies of Serbian government.
(arti, 27 June 2009 00:13)

Arti, no, Albanian victims are not fiction and Serbia is dealing with that. They are rounding up the accused and prosecuting them. What more do you want?

Let me ask you as question. Are Serbian victims only a fiction to you? You see, not one Albanian has been arrested in Kosovo or Albania and put on trial for crimes committed against the Serbs. Are you saying that there are no Serbian victims and no Albanian criminals?

If you are saying that, you don't have one ounce of credibility. Everyone knows that there are victims and criminals on all sides. What is your side doing to punish their guilty. Is electing them to government punishment?

What a hot subject! 65 comments so far...I read some of them. I feel that Tadic and Co. badly miscalculated. Bulgaria is so far the fourth country to release him because the Serbian indicment is not credible and no country can take it seriously. With such political vandetta-type indicment Serbia will lose even more credibility.

And in the end why didn't your glorious army arrested him while he was in uniform or even today he lives in the "holy" "Serbian" Kosova in Prishtina, coome and take him. Hi is all day in his home in Prishtina.
(ben, 26 June 2009 11:59)

So many criminals were so called "heroes" until they lost their support... sooner or later the same will happen to the bunch of criminals unfortunately running Kosovo.
Reading lately a few "normal" K-Albanians posters give me some hope that things might finally change for a durable peace.
Blind arrogant nationalists have no place on this planet!

PS: how smart should I be to understand the connection between the shamefull Roma camps in Kosova and Switzerland....

Ceku is a europian hero not only Kosovar.
(bugar, 27 June 2009 08:16)

Yes, "bugar". And normally there is "l" between "u" and "g" in latin and in your(?) native language it's "България", with "yat" instead of "u".

Lies have usually short feet, as Germans would say. Time to show yours.

Do you have maybe an other 5-year old niece in Drenica? Try better next time.

Ataman/The Swiss, check that i think its a representative sample from the CH federal police about what you re talking about ;)

(blacksheeps, 27 June 2009 15:12)

Thanks for the link, that is simply shocking and I am speechless, I did not know it's THAT bad. What a long list - and an OVERWHELMING majority of criminals are with Albanian background.

Explanation!!!! It's very simple a kid it will explain that and that is SERBIA DOESN'T HAVE ANY JURIDCTION OVER CITIZEN'S OF KOSOVA....that simple...

PS: Ataman,so basically the Kosovo Albanian victims are just fiction for you? or they just happened to disapear,new trend nowadays?
(arti, 27 June 2009 00:13)

It was a big number of people - but unfortunately this number became a disgusting debate and even more disgusting mental blackmail some K-Albanians apply to us ( = by-standers) in order to gain our sympathy.

The biggest number (about 10K) so far was presented "officially" by Natasa Kandic and we know, who she is and how far should be she "trusted". But even she has no break-down, how many civilian, how many UCK, how many killed by Serbs, how many by "other circumstances" (let me not elaborate, what "other circumstances!").

No matter what it is a big number - but stop licking your wounds and telling us some silly heart-breaking stories about non-existing nieces and such. I have to admit, a while ago I even believed one or two "niece" story, the problem was that the story was the same, just the "criminals" (Serb police, Macedonian police) was different, to the actor's liking. Yesterday I did read it somewhere one more time and that was enough for me to freak out, enough is enough.

--------

It's all documented my friend and nothing can erase it,not even the lies of Serbian government.
(arti, 27 June 2009 00:13)

Nothing was documented properly yet. Instead this number is an object of disgusting game. I am sure, Serbs play that game, too - but the countless variations of "five-year niece holding Albanian flag being raped and killed" is not Serbian invention.

BTW: the fact, Natasa Kandic can do what she does unpunished - speaks volumes about Serbian tolerance. Some should try a similar thing in Pristina or Tirana... he better count his kidneys!

http://tinyurl.com/q5ubrj

Interesting: Ceku is free, but he cannot leave Bulgaria till July 2 - that's the deadline for appeal.

Things are interesting now. Serbia will of course appeal and what will happen - God knows.

I do not know the mechanism, but presumably Bulgarians want to have the cake and eat it.

I'm currently in Serbia right now. I'd offer to be your host for a few days and show you around, but I feel you might suffer a breakdown from seeing the opposite of what you think is here.

Cheers.
(Mike, 26 June 2009 20:33)

Well, instead, you may see yours truly. If the case is what I suspect (my G5 seem to die in a very mysterious way) - the closest place I can lay my hand on for free is in Belgrade (hopefully). Never seen such a freak case; I omit technical details here. Of course that's before the product launch, when else?

Tadic and his liberal goverment is making you Serbs weak, the EU are able to push you around because of Tadics pursuit of the EU membership. We hear Kosovo will not be given up for the EU what about your national pride.

IF you want KLA terrorist criminals then go and get them do you think mossad would stand by when catching Nazi war criminals.

If you want Kosovo go and get it. Look at Afganistan and Iraq farmers are beating NATO troops.

What you need is a strong leader, the EU won't be accepting any new states until the Lisbon treaty is agreed.

Another point its about time Russia showed some metal maybe re arm the Serb army, new tanks, planes, SU-300 system.

"ben" wrote:
"And in the end why didn't your glorious army arrested him while he was in uniform or even today he lives in the "holy" "Serbian" Kosova in Prishtina, coome and take him. Hi is all day in his home in Prishtina.
(ben, 26 June 2009 11:59) "

ben, you don´t have to be foolish here, the serbian army drove these socalled "heroes" out within days, as we have all seen. that´s the reason why they started terrorist actions in order to provoke serbian over-reactions which were the perfect pretext for the long planned NATO-Aggression against Serbia.

this simple criminal, ceku , is nothing more than a former nightclub-bouncer, a limited person in so many levels...

if he is your hero, then you don´t have really high standards at all...

What is amazing - many if not most of these people are posting from West Europe, USA, Canada. Didn't they learn some culture? I know the infamous "black sheep" picture in Switzerland. I don't like that picture - but wonder, who could be the "model"... :(

I realize that you hardened your stance which suprised me at the first glance but I do understand you because lately I have a great deal of difficulties to remain cool with so many crapy comments...

As to the black ship, it was a terrible ad. It was lauched by the UDC of Blocher, (which fortunately failed not long ago to be re-elected). You have to however look a bit behind this ad and see how sick and tired the swiss population is to welcome so called refugees and then having zillions of problems with them and guess who the biggest trouble makers are....!

My opinion is: speak less do more ! Like Israel...

Ataman,

OVERWHELMING majority may be a bit too much but one third for sure and even this means that they are highly overrepresented on this notorious list.Still they may say it is
because the swiss police adopted Milosevic-type mentality and picks at them.They are the world champions at finding excuses.

Ataman/The Swiss, check that i think its a representative sample from the CH federal police about what you re talking about ;)
http://www.swisspolice.ch/e/1_persfdg/aktuell1.htm

Comment #7 But what makes it worse is that Sofia seems willing to risk relations with Serbia, a real country, over Kosovo, an international protectorate.
Mike,
What a humorous choice of phrases to voice your opinion. Considering the reason Kosovo became an international protectorate was to protect it from Serbia. A decision still endorsed by the UNSC.

'...that they are highly overrepresented on this notorious list.'

Do you have any idea of the comparative numbers of the different nationalities represented present in the country? For example, I see no Americans listed, but a glance at any U.S. newspaper will show that Americans are quite capable of committing crimes. On the other hand, there aren't all that many living in Switzerland, I'd guess - at least not poor and under-educated ones - so it's not surprising not to find any represented on a police list from there.

If Albanians comprise a majority of the foreigners living in the country, it's not so strange that they are responsible for a good percentage of the listings.

Many Americans, also, tend to assume that foreigners are responsible for a disproportionate share of the crimes committed here, while they - including illegal aliens - are actually less likely to end up incarcerated than the native-born. (http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?id=403 is one of many Google-hits for "criminality immigrants")

There may be evidence that Albanians are responsible for a disproportionate share - the number of crimes committed per individual - of the crimes committed in Switzerland, but your evidence doesn't prove it.

Why am I not suprised?
I knew that Ceku would be released because US has a lot of influence over these small Balkan countries.

Seeing how the US and the west are not interested in justice but only to punish Serbs and control Serbia, anyone here who still thinks that Mladic should be sent to Hague should have their head examined.

Is this not proof enough that nobody wants justice but only punishment for Serbs?

Stick with Russia and China and give these hypocrites the flick.

Still, there is one good thing that has come out of all this. Ceku is running out of countries he can trave to without being arrested.

Ceku is a hero!

He is the pride of Albanians.

He fought and won.

The only regret that I have is that he joined UCK only on April 1999.

If Serbia has any evidence on Ceku send them to Hague.


And in the end why didn't your glorious army arrested him while he was in uniform or even today he lives in the "holy" "Serbian" Kosova in Prishtina, coome and take him. Hi is all day in his home in Prishtina.

Jeremic will always disappoint himself when talking about Kosovo. I say he is a HYPOCRITE. At the same time he is asking for CEKU to be delivered to Serbia, his buddy MLADIC is running around free within Serbia. Well that is a bigger reason for disappointment Mr. Jeremic, wouldn't your agree??

One thing which i wonder the most is!!

When will Serbian politicians realise that no one is taking them seriously anymore.
Stop with this silly games, wake up and smell the coffee. Its USA interests and there is no way that you will achieve anything but keep your people into dark.
You can not win against them. its over. Kosovo is USA interest and there is no going back to ruling there by Silly Serbian Politicians.

"“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić

and you are not? well be very ashamed that you still protect war criminals such as Mladic and co.

we all know you protect your criminals.

Jeremic, this wasn't a devastating blow to international law, but a devastating blow to Serbian politics. Serbia's appeal doesn't have to do with law or justice, at all. It is rather a political sharade supposed to divert the heavy giult of Serbia, regarding the horrible atrocities committed in 5 countries of the former SFRY. After Serbia apparently failed in hiding its atrocities (we remember the statements of Belgrad: "we never committed crimes", while in Bataijnica the bodies of dead Albanians had been piled up), it moved on in the strategy to defame the other side as being AT LEAST just as horrible. This doesn't work. The truth is already clear and well-written. Serbia has once and for all to face that and to formerly apologize to all people of the Western Balkans without softening this a little bit. The Germans did the same, even when they were target of horrible crimes during and especially after the WW2 as well. As long as Serbia doesn't do that, along finding peace with all neighboring countries including Kosovo, it will only face the same walls, just as here, where Bulgaria did not give-in in Serbia's political sharades.

It's an incredible shame this man was released, but it's an even bigger shame that Bulgaria caved to interantional pressure, most likely coming from Washington (and I wouldn't be surprised if Kouchner once again was needed to bail out his Golden Boy). There can be no doubt Ceku's release waqs the result of arm twisting, political wrangling, and quite possibly a good amount of bribe money involved. But what makes it worst is that Sofia seems willing to risk relations with Serbia, a real country, over Kosovo, an international protectorate. Once again, an Albanian war criminal bribed his way out of facing justice. Incredibly sad.

This disapoitment of Serbia is the best thing since independence of Kosovo. I feel so damn good to hear you Jeremic :)

Jeremic's disappointments are reaching critical level.

Sorry but, more disappointments are on the way for Mr. Jeremic.

I advice him to visit a 'disappointment specialist'(@ Mr. Hashim Thaci's clinic, Down Town Prishtina, to cure/facilitate his future health conditions.

Heed this advice for cure

Jeremic, your country is not ashamed for killing 10,000 civilians in Kosova, for burning 120,000 homes and deporting 1 million people out of their homes - women, children and elderly in biblical proportions

(Adrian Gashi, 26 June 2009 15:19)

Yes, I am surprised:

- it's only 10,000 and not 100,000
- only 120,000 homes were burned, not 1,200,000
- that they did not invade Naboo yet
- Darth Vader did not came to Kosova in person to kill every tenth Albanian

How more fairy tales we need to hear? Like stories spread all over internet "my poor 5 year old niece was killed and raped by brutal Serbian police because she had an Albanian flag in her hands"

Yeah, right... than everyone would be killed in Kosovo who attends an Albanian wedding.

Such numbers and stories can be sold to Roberto from Frisco. But you should try harder to convince me, in particular that I spoke with REAL people from Albanian part of Kosovo and not with people who has the job to lie.

Time to recall the Ambassador Jeremic. Stop crying Wolf every time you lose a political battle. Serbia is not a guarantor of International law, but you wouldn't know that by reading Jeremic's statement.

Ceku said today that one good thing that may come out of his arrest is the fact that he saw the accusations against him and he said they were "laughable and imaginary". He said he intends to use those documents to show Interpol that Serbia issues phony and political warrants. Nice! Shoot yourself in the foot again Jeremic.

I`v never seen a diplomat which is so fix and paranoid to damage relationship with everybody. Jeremic must be so frustrated that his tongue is faster then his brain. Jeremic. You should be ashamed to continue Milosevic´s policy. You and Serbia do not have the exclusive patent of international law which you can interpreted as you would like.

“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić said.

Jeremic, your country is not ashamed for killing 10,000 civilians in Kosova, for burning 120,000 homes and deporting 1 million people out of their homes - women, children and elderly in biblical proportions - but you want Bulgaria to be ashamed for not considering your fraudulent indictments? Bulgaria has recognized Kosova as an independent state, therefore in their view Serbia has no jurisdiction over the Kosovar citizens. ICTY is the court that judges war crimes in ex-Jugo, they have looked into Ceku's record and have not found evidence to prosecute him. For someone that supposedly upholds the intl law, you should know better. Serbian charges against Ceku and other Kosovar politicians, are motivated by ethnic hatred and designed to cause instability and ethnic conflict in Kosova, but the rest of the world sees thru your thinly veiled racism, and that's why over and over again these indictments are being thrown out in one country after the other. There is not one single politician or prominent Kosovar that have not been accused by Serbia for one thing or another. Even Rugova and Agani were accused of being irredentists, terrorists and separatists. Ceku should hold his head high, for using his military experience to honorably come to the defense of its own people, and to end the state-sponsored reign of terror on its populace.

If anyone should be ashamed, it should be the state that Jeremic represents for housing and protecting child-killers and mass-murderers such as Mladic and Hadzic.

Mr. Jeremic, the term disappointment does not exist in diplomacy, or it shouldn’t. Coming up with such a childish assertion is nothing but ignorance. We can all assume of the risk and tensions that might escalated, in case of an eventual extradition. Though, Bulgaria is already EU member, and firm established society; it doesn’t fall into situations that have no sense and are unserious, therefore they don’t have to be ashamed of any action taken that is disliked by such baseless politics.
This is another clear indication to the civilized world that Kosovo Albanian’s aspirations have been both sincere and appropriate.

It was really tense there for a whole 5 seconds, apparently the possibility that a real "Butcher of the Balkans" could actually be prosecuted for real crimes was just too much to bear
Now, do not wonder why Serbs do not want to give up Mladic.
Again, politics wins over justice.
And not a surprise at all, maybe now they will give him the Nobel Prize for Peace too.
Bulgarian politicians: you have all the reasons to be very, very ashamed of yourself.

Does Jeremic think that he is the only one that knows International Law? Obviously Bulgarian Court disagrees. I am just wondering if ICJ comes with an opinion that Kosova/o had the right to secede what would Jeremic have to say...Anyway fun to read this kind of stuff.

Serbia should stop abusing with her membership in Interpol since no one takes her claims seriously.

I do agree with Daniel when he states that no matter what Kosova Govt will do Serbia will try to make the life of Kosovars hard and harder. This is exactly the maniacal attitude of Serbia that is not happy to see someone prospering. This is the culture to which Kosova said enough is enough good bye forever.

Today AUSTRIAN authorities after a warrant arrest coming from Serbia for the K-Albanian F. Noshaj extradited Noshaj to Kosova not Serbia. Serbia will never ever again have any authority over Kosova and her citizens.

And you can be sure that it’s gone be tit-for-tat. As soon as Kosova becomes member of Interpol many Serbians that committed horrible crimes in Kosova will be haunted. You cannot kill civilians, children’s and hide their bodies hundreds of kilometres far and walk free. You will go to jail.

Just two days ago in Vlore the Montenegrin president and Kosova’s president agreed that the Kosovar refugees must reposes their properties but the one that have committed crimes must go in front of the justice.

Tadic may faint outrage but he knows that Serbia had no case against Ceku.

Ceku's main defence before the Bulgarian court, which B92 does not include in its report, was that he is not a citizen of Serbia and has never been one and Serbia cannot request the arrest and extradition of foreign citizens. Bulgaria has recognised Kosova as an independent country so it cannot enact warrents issued by Serbia. This is the crux of the matter. Hurt pride may prevent Tadic or Jeremic to admit it but this game of pretend sovereignty over Kosova is becoming very silly.

"...his buddy MLADIC is running around free within Serbia."
AlbanskiPatriot

At least we don't have warcriminals running our everyday lives like you have in Kosovo.

with all respect mr Wolf, not eventue Russians would give you Ceku. No need to feel ashamed as obviously the file of discovery sent to Bulgaria did not match international standards as far as evidence is concerned.
The thing you should be ashamed of is that Ceku is walking with his chest proud while your crminals are hidding like rats in the dark.
Ps: ps this is real diplomacy from the US. Failing to extriddite a real thug who manipulated the already corrupt serbien national institution to give him a fake passport to avoid court hearing.
Jeremic now you know how your neighbours feel, let alone the world.

Jeremic, why are you commenting on indicments that are not credible and not based on facts.
With this you have shown that nobody takes you serioulsy and yet you tell your people that you are their FM.Does this mean that you are tellign people that voted for your party not to vote anymore since you cannot represent them with dignity. What a disgrace

It must have been Michael Jacksons' last wish to have Ceku set free.

Is Tadic tring to blackmail Bulgaria? From this Mr Tadic you should learn for the EU integration of Serbia. It will not be as easy as you are telling the serbian people.

“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić said.
But a lot worse has happened in Serbia and we are yet to see any display of shame or sorrow. Mr Jeremic, you'd better brace yourself for more disappointment.

“I was an actor in many political events, so my extradition could worsen the orderly ethnic relations in Kosovo and could eventually complicate relations between the two countries,” Ceku said upon release.

I think that one statement pretty much sums up the entire Kosovo international fiasco. And that's why Ceku was released- he knows too much and would be a severe embarrassment for the West if he was extradited to Serbia. And then the other comment by Bulgaria that by extraditing Ceku, relations between Bulgaria and Kosovo would get worse- well, apparently Bulgaria values Kosovo relations more than relations with Serbia. In reality, Bulgaria is petrified of the K-Albs and the "house of cards" that they control. Bulgaria just made their relations with Serbia that much more tenuous- which will be bad for Balkan stability- but something that the West delights in.....

we all know you protect your criminals.
(theKosovar, 26 June 2009 11:16)

If this isn't he pot calling the kettle black.

All the countries that ceku visits, the government(s) has to honor the red notice on him. He should be the man that he claims he is & just put up the white flag & take a trip to Beograd, on us!

The invaders of Kosovo will realize how the US perpetrates being a friend & then will pull the rug out from under you....it's all in time.

CCCC

Could our plan be working any better? Not only have we have managed to rip Kosova away from Serbia; now we get to watch them embarrass themselves on an international stage!! Greater Albania here we come!!!

Hopefully this business with Mr. Ceku is over and Serbia starts looking for war criminals they have jurisdiction over (Mladic!!!).

CEKU IS A HERO!!!

"whole world is out to get them.
I do not know what is more plausible."
(Geni, 26 June 2009 10:44)

Geni, what is "the whole world"? Ruling elite or those indifferent brainwashed middle-class sandwich-eaters, who think that Albania is in Africa and that official language in Serbia is English?

However, western community isn't unanimous over Kosovo issue at all..
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12378

Either the Serbian politicians are wrong about this, or the whole world is out to get them.
I do not know what is more plausible.

Someone said it best in the comments over the past few days. Although some countries would never extradite Ceku to Serbia, as long as he keeps on getting arrested, his life will be difficult. He cannot pretend it's not a hindrance because it is; he'll always be looking over his shoulder. At any rate, this goes to show what Kosovo's future will be all about. Even with a couple of the more powerful nations in the world supporting Kosovo, Kosovo's Albanians will never be able to squash Serbia's spirit to fight. Each step Kosovo's Albanian government tries to take forward will be like trying to run in quicksand.

I have not expected anything else from Bulgarians. It seems that Bulgaria is becoming one of the biggest American satellites in Europe after Kosovo and Poland.

Cheku's extradition to Serbia would worsen diplomatic relation and raise ethnic tensions in Kosovo? That is what you know the best, to threat with violence. And it seems that you get away with it. But not for long.

I don't think anyone in the world is suprised by this outcome - even you Mr. Jeremic.

Mike

Innocent until proven guilty my friend. From your statement, I gather you subscribe to the Serbian standard of "guilty and we will be damned if we allow you to ever prove your innocence".

As long as Balkan nations are poor and weak there can be no true democracy or justice. Intimidation and curruption will always prevail. Funny how the West complain that curruption is still high in the Balkans while they are the ones showing the way. America, Russia and some European countries have their own form of justice and its anything but just and fair. It's all about personal interest and nothing about fairness. When it comes to the Balkans there can be no peace without justice. Despite Serbias past its one of few countries that has shown maturity and true democracy.

All I can say is, if Albanians viw people like Ceku, Thaci, and Haradjinaj as heros, then you are a disgrace. Do a Wikipedia, or Google search on these war criminals, and feel even prouder.

"“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić

and you are not? well be very ashamed that you still protect war criminals such as Mladic and co.

we all know you protect your criminals.
(theKosovar, 26 June 2009 11:16)

Where is the incentive for Serbia to capture Mladic and extradite hime when something like this happens? I cannot even begin to undestand the logic of the countries involved in securing this release. The plain and simple fact should be this...if someone is accused of war crimes, no matter what nationality they are, they should stand trial. How can everyone accuse Serbia of not accepting this fact when they have captured and extradited all but 2 of their alleged war criminals and then something like this happens? I really struggle, from an unbiased perspective, to understand the logic of this apparent double standard. The same rules have to apply to all people no matter what their background. Is this really so difficult to understand? Someone, somewhere, eventually has to realise that this is the only fair and balanced way to proceed. Crime is crime and justice is justice and there has to be no exception to this fact.

To the RS gov/MUP: in order to reach people standing below the law, use methods below the law, like the israeli did:

(sudzuk, 26 June 2009 12:28)

Even if "yes", waiting till ICJ decision is advised. Besides:
- currently Serbia has no infrastructure to do it "properly", unless they "outsource", somewhat unlikely.
- I don't think the vengeance is a high priority.
- Such things do more damage than good
- Ceku has high connections to Serbia Proper, not much can be done
- If Serbia wants Kosovo fail miserably: they should make sure, Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and the rest are at the steering wheel of the "country" as long as possible, not eliminate them.

These people are not the "salvation" of Kosovo, but it's trouble. With them - see the few HONEST Albanian posters - Kosovo is doomed to fail and at one point Albanians will have to face their failure, not to blame Milosevic anymore. But... looking at million lies they spread all over internet I have my worries, the over-all sense of morale. We did see few honest posters in last few days, hopefully the situation is not that bad as we would judge from the "quality" of postings.

- These criminals dream to eliminate each other, why help Thaci against Ceku? All we have to say: we wish maximal luck and success for both Thaci and Ceku while they are fighting against each other.

I would not blame Bulgaria - they are as toothless as Serbia and completely on mercy of some world's villains. In last 20 years they exchanged one villain overlord to an other, here is a consequence. We know precisely how Bulgarians think regarding this matter but you can't expect them to bite a hand stronger than the entire country.

At last but not least: please, for god's sake, make the Albanian fanboyz feel, they are victorious over and over. Until the Serbian cultural heritage is in the area they control. Or do you need Bogorodica Levishka to burn again?

I think the world of real politic just showed its real face. What shame! When a Serb is accused of war crimes, there is no question by anyone and every country immediately arrests and extradites him. When Serbia accuses someone, no one believes it or cooperates. The United States clearly made quiet calls to Sofia to pressure the Bulgars to release Ceku. It's so obvious. This is truly disgusting and shameful politics. I can now understand completely why Serbs see bias against them in the Hague and elsewhere.

"if someone is accused of war crimes, no matter what nationality they are, they should stand trial."

There is a special court, in the Hague, with jurisdiction on war crimes in the territory of formery Yugoslavia. Cangaroo courts in Serbia or anywhere else in the Balkans can't be allowed to advance ethnic agendas.

You can blame US influence all you want, if it makes you feel better. But reality is that countries who arrest Ceku because of interpol warrants and then release him upon investigation of charges, are making an evaluation of the justice system in Serbia.
Another huge embarassment for Serbia, but another win for true international justice not the propaganda version.

Tadic needs explanation? Of course I am here to help)
Tadic,
You aim is not Agim Ceku but to discredit the KLA war against Serbia. Ceku was a professional soldier, a polititian who is contributing to peace and stability in the region. Why do you want Ceku? To destabilise Kosova and "prove" to the international community how "threatened" are the Serbians in Kosova....
If Hague would ask Ceku to appear HE as got the guts like Haradinaj to show up voluntarily.

This is excellent evidence to use in the ICJ case: Serbia can prove that america and its allies repeatedly violate and disrespect international law and this is a recent occurance. This makes biden into a liar when he said the us wants better relations with Serbia; obviously the us bribed the Bulgarians again. Also, Serbia can tell the Russians that they interact with the Bulgarians on the pipeline; Serbia does not have to talk to them. Finally, it is insults like this that will topple the Tadic government and bring the Radicals to power. When the eu refuses to abolish visa restrictions at the end of this year; Tadic is gotov.
The opposition is much better in using the ICJ verdict against the UDI to Serbia's advantage.

Mike,

Ceku is declared criminal by Sebia, not the international community. This make a huge difference. In a country where criminals are treated as heros, as is the case of Mladic and co, the justice system doesn't have very much credibility in the eyes of the civilized world. As another poster stated above, ceku is not hidding, apparently he has nothing to hide, Mladic does and is given full protection by the serbian state. You can not always blame the international community for everything. Clean up your mess first and show the world that you have really distanced youselves from the medieval mentality and then the world would listen to you with more attention and respect. I understand that your current government is trying to improve serbia's image abroad. They have achieved quite a lot in recent years, but you have still a bumpy road ahead of you. Good luck!

He cannot pretend it's not a hindrance because it is; he'll always be looking over his shoulder. At any rate, this goes to show what Kosovo's future will be all about. Even with a couple of the more powerful nations in the world supporting Kosovo, Kosovo's Albanians will never be able to squash Serbia's spirit to fight. Each step Kosovo's Albanian government tries to take forward will be like trying to run in quicksand.
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Daniel this really shows Serbia's frustration, that's all. Serbia will continue this until US /EU decide they have had enough and cut the aid. As for Kosova, serbia can play some games because Albanians don't want to reciprocate--at least for a while.

Serbia is ISOLATED, most of EU and NATO by far recognize and support Kosova. Serbia has no say in Kosova and its officials can't even get in.

The rest is spin and pure desperation on Serbia's side.

There is a reason why Serbia fought 2 wars with Bulgaria in the 20th Century which included WW2. Too bad, but it comes as no surprise.

Let us not be impatient, he will eventually end up where he belongs.

Bulgaria: Promptly proceed with extradition of Agim Ceku to Serbia
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR15/003/2009/en/ad9a7d84-f425-41e0-9d6d-54d1094731dc/eur150032009eng.html

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

PUBLIC STATEMENT

The Bulgarian authorities should extradite Agim Ceku promptly to Serbia where his case should be prosecuted in line with international fair trial standards. UNMIK should not take any steps to obstruct justice by intervening in the Bulgarian extradition proceedings to prevent his extradition, absent any risk of human rights violations.

La la la. Here is the simple reason Serbia intentionaly wants to increase conflict. There is a seperate court fir former yugo wars. Many Serbs and the rest of yugo countries army leaders faced it. The burdon of proof lies with the prosecution. In regard to Kosovo Serbia could not find zilch hence Haradina set free and Ceku to follow. Serbia knew this is no good so they just thought better to do something than nothing so Interpol came second.
Relying on international law is very sweet but you have to take the full package not gassing your arguments on Del Pontes fiction. Serbian secret service has reached to America and Australia western europeans have fallen victims to it and you tell me one of your comanders in civilian uniform couldn't walk to Albania to find a glowing couloured house? Hehe I wonder why.

"so my extradition could worsen the orderly ethnic relations in Kosovo and could eventually complicate relations between the two countries".

This is a statement but not an argument.

No surprises really. It was strange that Ceku claimed to be invited to Bulgaria although the officials there claimed he wasn't. Maybe they just set this up to get some hard cash from those "international actors" negotiating his release?

But on another point, why should any country take Serbia seriously when they know Tadic is too toothless to take any action? Serbia will continue to be walked over while he remains president.

“If something like this happened in Serbia, we would have a reason to be ashamed,” Jeremić

You should be ashamed Mr. Jeremic you gave Kovacevic or whatever this thug's name is a passport to run from USA. So if you don't respect the international law, how do you expect Bulgaria to give you the same courtesy? What about your two accused war-criminals hiding in Serbia? You should be ashamed of them. They are being accused by an international court which holds more weight than your silly Interpol arrest and silly accusations. You allowed the whole country to suffer and setback on the SAA as a result of not arresting two criminals in your own country. The only people to be ashamed are you and your gov't Mr. Jeremic, nobody else.

To Mospyt, #28: First: You and your fellow ceku have very specific understanding of the law and international law in particular. To be tried in any country, you don't have to be a citizen of it. You just have to commit something in that country. And events in question were committed in Serbia ( regarding Kosovo's UDI or not).
Second: Why is he so afraid to stand Serbian trial. If he is innocent, it might be proved with huge contribution for Kosovo. But he is trying to avoid it, probably, because is has something to hide.

Tadic wants an explanation? Can he be that naive or is simply just starting to become mad? In which universe is he or his (pro-)Serbian supporters? Maybe somebody should wake them up.

There wasn't a slightly doubt that he will be released, it really doesn't matter since for too long we are used to dirty politics all around the world.
What is however more appealing for Kosovo people is that too many are blindly following a bunch of bloody handed criminals which were on and off intl terrorist list (depending how far they were ready to do some dirty job for some western countries).
Like Ataman said, as long as this is the case Kosovos has no future and will remain a hole on the map.
I was however positively surprised that some "stop the massacre" K-Albania voices started emerging
on this site and can only wish them good luck.
Of course the "hard liners" on this site immediately treated them as traitors...

To the RS gov/MUP: in order to reach people standing below the law, use methods below the law, like the israeli did:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God

Ceku is a europian hero not only Kosovar.

Greater Albania here we come!!!
(Burim Krasniqi, 26 June 2009 18:33)

Me thinks, the explanation is much easier. Agim Ceku was directly involved in many military operations where undercover NATO agents were involved, too. Him standing trial = some of NATO's dirty underpants would be exposed. And no wonder, State Department tries to prevent it at any cost.

Regardless, that "Great Albania" belongs to trash heap of history. We don't need that in Europe.

Tadic and his liberal goverment is making you Serbs weak, the EU are able to push you around because of Tadics pursuit of the EU membership. We hear Kosovo will not be given up for the EU what about your national pride.

IF you want KLA terrorist criminals then go and get them do you think mossad would stand by when catching Nazi war criminals.

If you want Kosovo go and get it. Look at Afganistan and Iraq farmers are beating NATO troops.

What you need is a strong leader, the EU won't be accepting any new states until the Lisbon treaty is agreed.

Another point its about time Russia showed some metal maybe re arm the Serb army, new tanks, planes, SU-300 system.

Or what will tadic do?
Pick the best answer
1-Do nothing
2-Writte a letter where he explains why he will say nasty things to the serbian press about Bullgaria and begging not to have their Eu aspirations shut down
3-He will repeat the same as Jeremic Foreign power beyond our control interfered
4- Aliens were responsible for releasing Ceku

Piro,

I'm assuming you're writing to me since you addressed your comment as "Mike" and not "MikeC". Let me enlighten you a little since you seem to be an expert on who's a hero in Serbia.

Mladic is not a hero in Serbia as you claim. Mladic is a nonentity. There are people who think he's a "hero" but they are a dwindling minority. Since he's been out of the spotlight, an entire generation of Serbs have grown up not knowing who he is. You can't even find shops that sell Mladic memorabilia anymore outside one small little pathetic looking kiosk at the main train station. Pro-Mladic graffiti is quickly crossed out by anti nationalists. For whatever reasons you've been led to believe Mladic is not only a hero in Serbia but seems to walk free and proud, I can only surmise is either an unfortunate side affect of mindless Albanian nationalism, or is a result of the yellow journalism that continues to pass for objective news in Albanian newspapers.

Now contrast this with the comments here where fellow Neo-Illyrians praise Ceku as a hero. If people like Ceku are considered heroes in Albanian popular memory, then Albanians continue to suffer from a lack of positive role models and resemble the gangster-worship that plagued Serbia during the early to mid 1990s.

I'm currently in Serbia right now. I'd offer to be your host for a few days and show you around, but I feel you might suffer a breakdown from seeing the opposite of what you think is here.

Cheers.

I honestly can understand joyous screams of Albanian posters.What I can't and won't accept it is their twisted sense of justice ,generally speaking.It's so easy to accept command responsibility of any Serbian officer or politician,however,everything is being turned upside down when it comes to some Albanian "hero".These double standards in today politics will drag this world into chaos where nobody's going to profit from it.Misery & hipocrisy already rule the world.

whatever Boris says he must be happy that tha Bulgarians as usual obeyed their patron. Otherwise Serbia would have another item of long lasting confrontation. But Toma ( if elected ) would be happy to have Ceku in Belgrade.

Of course the "hard liners" on this site immediately treated them as traitors...
(The Swiss, 26 June 2009 22:38)

This is why I hardened my stance. There ARE reasonable people, they are the majority. I have no idea why should we remain "politically correct" to a bunch of trollers or seek some kind of the dialogue with them. These few posts in last few days made it clear: the situation is not that bad. We should look forward to come together with the people who grew up to 21st century - even if our opinion is often not the same, there is nothing wrong with that.

I have more and more feeling, we here try to argue our way through some 12th century mentality, not 21st. We shouldn't be the mental doctors.

I fully understand the B92 stance: they won't remove all that insanity because otherwise they would be accused for being on "Serbian" side. So (mostly) all that cr@p stays and automatically damages Kosovo's name horribly.

What is amazing - many if not most of these people are posting from West Europe, USA, Canada. Didn't they learn some culture? I know the infamous "black sheep" picture in Switzerland. I don't like that picture - but wonder, who could be the "model"... :(

Explanation!!!! It's very simple a kid it will explain that and that is SERBIA DOESN'T HAVE ANY JURIDCTION OVER CITIZEN'S OF KOSOVA....that simple...

"ben" wrote:
"And in the end why didn't your glorious army arrested him while he was in uniform or even today he lives in the "holy" "Serbian" Kosova in Prishtina, coome and take him. Hi is all day in his home in Prishtina.
(ben, 26 June 2009 11:59) "

ben, you don´t have to be foolish here, the serbian army drove these socalled "heroes" out within days, as we have all seen. that´s the reason why they started terrorist actions in order to provoke serbian over-reactions which were the perfect pretext for the long planned NATO-Aggression against Serbia.

this simple criminal, ceku , is nothing more than a former nightclub-bouncer, a limited person in so many levels...

if he is your hero, then you don´t have really high standards at all...

Where is Hague now?

I think the world of real politic just showed its real face. What shame! When a Serb is accused of war crimes, there is no question by anyone and every country immediately arrests and extradites him. When Serbia accuses someone, no one believes it or cooperates. The United States clearly made quiet calls to Sofia to pressure the Bulgars to release Ceku. It's so obvious. This is truly disgusting and shameful politics. I can now understand completely why Serbs see bias against them in the Hague and elsewhere.
(NiholasThompson, 26 June 2009 15:13)

I tell you the real thing here man,just so you understand the situation,the warrant against Ceku is the same warrant that all Albanians had in 1999 war in Kosovo,it's basically political strategy and lies but not based in facts,What are they going to charge him for shooting Serbian troops?well what he was suposed to do sit and watch,and having him tried in Serbian court it's basically the same as trying a poor man in post comunist era in Albania because he did say I can't feed my family,ridiculus.
And by the way the Serbian court just convicted a man 20 years for killing 14 Kosovo Albanian women and children, get my point right?
here's the link if you want to know further.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3520370.stm

PS: Ataman,so basically the Kosovo Albanian victims are just fiction for you? or they just happened to disapear,new trend nowadays?
It's all documented my friend and nothing can erase it,not even the lies of Serbian government.

What a hot subject! 65 comments so far...I read some of them. I feel that Tadic and Co. badly miscalculated. Bulgaria is so far the fourth country to release him because the Serbian indicment is not credible and no country can take it seriously. With such political vandetta-type indicment Serbia will lose even more credibility.

'Someone said it best in the comments over the past few days. Although some countries would never extradite Ceku to Serbia, as long as he keeps on getting arrested, his life will be difficult.'

This could change. In an interview published in Kosovo Times today, Ceku said that he now has the documents that Serbia submitted to Interpol to justify its request for a Red Notice listing him. Since he says the evidence is fabricated, this gives the Prishtina government and his lawyers grounds for requesting Interpol to remove his name - and those of others - from this list. If Serbia's evidence wasn't good enough for the Hague, it may not be good enough for Interpol, either.

Thanks for your post, Little Russia
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12378
Says it all.

Bulgaria: Promptly proceed with extradition of Agim Ceku to Serbia

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

PUBLIC STATEMENT

The Bulgarian authorities should extradite Agim Ceku promptly to Serbia where his case should be prosecuted in line with international fair trial standards. UNMIK should not take any steps to obstruct justice by intervening in the Bulgarian extradition proceedings to prevent his extradition, absent any risk of human rights violations.
(Danny, 26 June 2009 17:51)

Danny,

Some have selective feel for justice and love "Amnesty International" only if it does support their views. Here I better to stop otherwise I will be very offensive. This "selective justice" says it all.

The only article related to Ceku on the Interpol website is this:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/PressReleases/PR2006/PR200608.asp

The list of people Serbia is looking for through Interpol is this:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Wanted/Search/ResultListNew.asp?EntityName=&EntityForename=&EntityNationality=&EntityAgeBetween=15&EntityAgeAnd=95&EntitySex=&EntityEyeColor=&EntityHairColor=&EntityOffence=&ArrestWarrantIssuedBy=SERBIA&EntityFullText=&cboNbHitsPerPage=8&cboNbPages=20&Search=Search

Agim Ceku is not there.

If you want to do the search by yourself try this:

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Wanted/Search/Form.asp

and put Serbia as the country who has issued the arrest warrant.

on the other hand there's hundreds of articles from newspapers around the world with words like 'Bulgaria stops/frees Agim Ceku due to arrest warrant issued by Serbia'.

Serbia's people in charge of this are playing with procedures of Interpol. I can imagine a Bulgarian/Colombian officer who gets a request from Serbia to arrest somebody who has 'killed' 669 people, and stops him, just to be sure, waiting for further instructions. Catch him first, then say "I'm sorry" later. I would do the same, if I were in them, and had no idea. Only if Serbian professionals go on like this, they will continue to loose credibility with other professionals around the world, but will get a lot of articles.

talk about propaganda Ataman et al.

"Second: Why is he so afraid to stand Serbian trial. If he is innocent, it might be proved with huge contribution for Kosovo. But he is trying to avoid it, probably, because is has something to hide.
(passing by, 26 June 2009 19:13) "

It's because it would not be a fair trial off course. Just to offer some proof here, three Bytyqi brothers from Atlantic Brigade were once detained there and guess what? They got executed without a trial in Belegrade. Not to mention victims recovered from Batajnica.

Ceku is a europian hero not only Kosovar.
(bugar, 27 June 2009 08:16)

Yes, "bugar". And normally there is "l" between "u" and "g" in latin and in your(?) native language it's "България", with "yat" instead of "u".

Lies have usually short feet, as Germans would say. Time to show yours.

Do you have maybe an other 5-year old niece in Drenica? Try better next time.

PS: Ataman,so basically the Kosovo Albanian victims are just fiction for you? or they just happened to disapear,new trend nowadays?
It's all documented my friend and nothing can erase it,not even the lies of Serbian government.
(arti, 27 June 2009 00:13)

Arti, no, Albanian victims are not fiction and Serbia is dealing with that. They are rounding up the accused and prosecuting them. What more do you want?

Let me ask you as question. Are Serbian victims only a fiction to you? You see, not one Albanian has been arrested in Kosovo or Albania and put on trial for crimes committed against the Serbs. Are you saying that there are no Serbian victims and no Albanian criminals?

If you are saying that, you don't have one ounce of credibility. Everyone knows that there are victims and criminals on all sides. What is your side doing to punish their guilty. Is electing them to government punishment?

http://tinyurl.com/q5ubrj

Interesting: Ceku is free, but he cannot leave Bulgaria till July 2 - that's the deadline for appeal.

Things are interesting now. Serbia will of course appeal and what will happen - God knows.

I do not know the mechanism, but presumably Bulgarians want to have the cake and eat it.

Ataman/The Swiss, check that i think its a representative sample from the CH federal police about what you re talking about ;)

(blacksheeps, 27 June 2009 15:12)

Thanks for the link, that is simply shocking and I am speechless, I did not know it's THAT bad. What a long list - and an OVERWHELMING majority of criminals are with Albanian background.

What is amazing - many if not most of these people are posting from West Europe, USA, Canada. Didn't they learn some culture? I know the infamous "black sheep" picture in Switzerland. I don't like that picture - but wonder, who could be the "model"... :(

I realize that you hardened your stance which suprised me at the first glance but I do understand you because lately I have a great deal of difficulties to remain cool with so many crapy comments...

As to the black ship, it was a terrible ad. It was lauched by the UDC of Blocher, (which fortunately failed not long ago to be re-elected). You have to however look a bit behind this ad and see how sick and tired the swiss population is to welcome so called refugees and then having zillions of problems with them and guess who the biggest trouble makers are....!

And in the end why didn't your glorious army arrested him while he was in uniform or even today he lives in the "holy" "Serbian" Kosova in Prishtina, coome and take him. Hi is all day in his home in Prishtina.
(ben, 26 June 2009 11:59)

So many criminals were so called "heroes" until they lost their support... sooner or later the same will happen to the bunch of criminals unfortunately running Kosovo.
Reading lately a few "normal" K-Albanians posters give me some hope that things might finally change for a durable peace.
Blind arrogant nationalists have no place on this planet!

PS: how smart should I be to understand the connection between the shamefull Roma camps in Kosova and Switzerland....

PS: Ataman,so basically the Kosovo Albanian victims are just fiction for you? or they just happened to disapear,new trend nowadays?
(arti, 27 June 2009 00:13)

It was a big number of people - but unfortunately this number became a disgusting debate and even more disgusting mental blackmail some K-Albanians apply to us ( = by-standers) in order to gain our sympathy.

The biggest number (about 10K) so far was presented "officially" by Natasa Kandic and we know, who she is and how far should be she "trusted". But even she has no break-down, how many civilian, how many UCK, how many killed by Serbs, how many by "other circumstances" (let me not elaborate, what "other circumstances!").

No matter what it is a big number - but stop licking your wounds and telling us some silly heart-breaking stories about non-existing nieces and such. I have to admit, a while ago I even believed one or two "niece" story, the problem was that the story was the same, just the "criminals" (Serb police, Macedonian police) was different, to the actor's liking. Yesterday I did read it somewhere one more time and that was enough for me to freak out, enough is enough.

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It's all documented my friend and nothing can erase it,not even the lies of Serbian government.
(arti, 27 June 2009 00:13)

Nothing was documented properly yet. Instead this number is an object of disgusting game. I am sure, Serbs play that game, too - but the countless variations of "five-year niece holding Albanian flag being raped and killed" is not Serbian invention.

BTW: the fact, Natasa Kandic can do what she does unpunished - speaks volumes about Serbian tolerance. Some should try a similar thing in Pristina or Tirana... he better count his kidneys!

I'm currently in Serbia right now. I'd offer to be your host for a few days and show you around, but I feel you might suffer a breakdown from seeing the opposite of what you think is here.

Cheers.
(Mike, 26 June 2009 20:33)

Well, instead, you may see yours truly. If the case is what I suspect (my G5 seem to die in a very mysterious way) - the closest place I can lay my hand on for free is in Belgrade (hopefully). Never seen such a freak case; I omit technical details here. Of course that's before the product launch, when else?

Comment #7 But what makes it worse is that Sofia seems willing to risk relations with Serbia, a real country, over Kosovo, an international protectorate.
Mike,
What a humorous choice of phrases to voice your opinion. Considering the reason Kosovo became an international protectorate was to protect it from Serbia. A decision still endorsed by the UNSC.

Ataman/The Swiss, check that i think its a representative sample from the CH federal police about what you re talking about ;)
http://www.swisspolice.ch/e/1_persfdg/aktuell1.htm

My opinion is: speak less do more ! Like Israel...

Ataman,

OVERWHELMING majority may be a bit too much but one third for sure and even this means that they are highly overrepresented on this notorious list.Still they may say it is
because the swiss police adopted Milosevic-type mentality and picks at them.They are the world champions at finding excuses.

'...that they are highly overrepresented on this notorious list.'

Do you have any idea of the comparative numbers of the different nationalities represented present in the country? For example, I see no Americans listed, but a glance at any U.S. newspaper will show that Americans are quite capable of committing crimes. On the other hand, there aren't all that many living in Switzerland, I'd guess - at least not poor and under-educated ones - so it's not surprising not to find any represented on a police list from there.

If Albanians comprise a majority of the foreigners living in the country, it's not so strange that they are responsible for a good percentage of the listings.

Many Americans, also, tend to assume that foreigners are responsible for a disproportionate share of the crimes committed here, while they - including illegal aliens - are actually less likely to end up incarcerated than the native-born. (http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?id=403 is one of many Google-hits for "criminality immigrants")

There may be evidence that Albanians are responsible for a disproportionate share - the number of crimes committed per individual - of the crimes committed in Switzerland, but your evidence doesn't prove it.