No one was interested in the purpose of Ceku's visit - to discuss Kosova's future entry into NATO? I thought they would have to wait much longer before even starting to think about this. It's probably the best way of ensuring stability in the region, though.
He'll be released tomorrow, or else.
(Clinton W., 25 June 2009 00:33)
Or else what? What is thath you are going to do? Replace him in jail and serve sentence instead of him. Threats like this shouldn't scare anyone, Agim Ceku is a war criminal. He is responsible for massacres in Medak (800 civilians killed) and for massacres in Kosovo&Metohija. People like him should hope only worst because thats exactly what they deserve.
If Ceku is sent to Serbia to stand trial in a Serbian court, I will feel very sorry for any Serb living in Kosova.
Remember what happened in March 2004.
(Michael John, 25 June 2009 06:42)
If that is not incitement to violence, I dont know what is.
I'm sure if Serbia started a pogrom against the Belgrade & Presevo Albanians, the irridentist Albanian mob would be up in arms.
Where is our self righteous 'defender' of ethnic tolerance and peace, Mr Roberto Russ from 'frisco'. Oh I forgot its Serbs here so they do not appear on his moral radar.
Serbs and Bulgarians may be very close in language and religion, but that closeness made them bitter rivals since the Middle Ages. If the Bulgarians deport Ceku to Serbia that would change nothing. Serbs will yell huray.. for few days, but it is unlikely the two countries would ever become close allies. Ataka is hardly a patriotic ogranization. Sure it is anti-Western, but Bulgaria managed ot jump the hurdle and join NATO and EU where it hardly belongs, being the poores in the EU family. But within a generation it will bland in prefectly, because Bulgarians are generaly conformists, not rebels. So why should Bulgaria risk the wrath of its allies for the unlikely gratitude of an unlikely friend?
Indeed some points seem populist and unrealistic mainly those related to economy.AS to some other points they are rather self-defensive and given how much bulgarians suffered under islamoimperialism for centuries I can understand them .
I think you again make the same mistake as when you put Iran and Saudi Arabia in one camp(it is such a nonsense as putting serbs and albans in one camp).ATAKA is by no means a mirror version of Jobbik.Radical does not automaticly mean Nazi as some pseudoliberal media organs would like to suggest.In fact as opposed to jobbik ATAKA is anti-nazi and very chritical of those who made bulgaria side with germans during world wars.See their main opponents on bulgarian political scene:http://www.ataka.bg/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=31 And while for the followers of Balli Kombëtar and Jobbik Hitler is an icon for Ataka supporters he is just the opposite.And I would like to remind you that during WW2 the most radical elements of Serb and Polish society were the members of antihitlerist resistance.
If Ceku is sent to Serbia to stand trial in a Serbian court, I will feel very sorry for any Serb living in Kosova.
Remember what happened in March 2004.
(Michael John, 25 June 2009 06:42)
Wow, you cannot be any more plain than this.
So, if Serbia dares to put an Albanian criminal on trial you are going to take your revenge on every innocent Serb in Kosovo. Do you honstly belive that you would get away with it again?
Nobody in the world would blame Serbia for rolling their tanks in again.
What would you say if I said that if Ceku is released from Bulgaria every Albanian in Serbia will feel the wrath of Serbian people? How would you react to something like this?
The answer is given by the Bulgarian Foreign Minister, not leaving besides the involvement of France, USA and Great Britain to release him.
This is what Bulgarian FM says:“I expect him to be released. Obviously legal frameworks have to be fulfilled, and our country obviously cannot prejudge the decision, but it’s possible... it’s possible that he could be released on the basis that Bulgaria has recognized Kosovo,“ said Klyuchkov.
And it it is very good that Serbia cannot get their hands on Mr.Ceku because if they did there would be trouble for regional stability. Ceku is and Kosovar hero and not a criminal. Serbia ios just frustrated over Kosovo independence and this is the reaction.
(Demi, 24 June 2009 10:24)
Sure, in Kosovo all criminals are heroes and all criminals are heroes. Just look at all the wonderful heroes in the local kosovo government.
When you say "wrath", one only thinks of a coersive threat, I think you should have chosen a better word, because that's how it came across in your statement.
Marinels
"Peter, I have always carefully read you comments here and my conclusion is that the pan Slavic camp (and wider) can not swallow up so easy its defeat in Kosovo."
It's not a defeat, until the whole of the international community recognizes Kosovo's independence, like every other independent state out there is. It's not over yet, and won't be until there is some kind of mutual agreement, that is the reality on the ground. There is still international law and territorial integrity, things that has kept Europe away from another world war. Why do I say this? Because as a Pole, I know what problems land can cause between two nations.
"That is especially reflected in some of your comments although you pretend to be unbiased."
I really do try to be unbiased, but I do tend to lean towards Serbia's arguement, because I do think that they are trying to redeem themselves and are still being punished for a regime long-time gone, and tend to find hypocrisy from the Albanian side when they are trying to claim what a model multi-ethnic state Kosovo is, but they cannot seem to see themselves living in a multi-ethnic state under Serbia. That's what I have noticed over time, hence me leaning.
"On one side you often criticize Russians for their past and sometimes the present, on another side when it comes to Kosovo you support Serbs even though the crimes committed by Serbs in the last decades are distinct for all of us in Balkans and Europawide."
I fail to see what those two things have to do with each other. Why, if I lean towards Serbia's argument, do I by default have to side with Russia? The two have nothing to do with each other when it comes to my viewpoints. I do not support Serbian crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo at all, they are wrong, just like any war crimes, but to punish the current state of Serbia for the crimes of another regime a decade back, is not fair.
And one thing, the Russian crimes (OK, to be fair, Soviet crimes, though it's still the same capital city) of the past against the Polish people are considerably harsher than any Serbian crimes during the Yugoslav Wars in terms of sheer numbers of victims, so naturally I am going to criticize Russia for the past (for which they have still not apologized at all, hence me criticizing the present Russian government).
"That was very childish to mention this fact here which is in no way related with the situation we are talking about. I don’t think that there is any event which could trigger a confrontation between armies of Balkan countries even less now since the Bulgaria and Albania are NATO members. It is true that Bulgaria was one of the closest satellites of soviet communists with considerable military force but is didn’t mean that anybody feared it. Such armies had all ex communists countries even Albania. Nowadays the military hardware of both countries are nothing more than obsolete which doesn’t give Bulgaria any advantage as being military leader in Balkans. For you information the Russian army in 1960 couldn’t “annihilate” Albanian army as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia earlier and later or even Yugoslavia until 90’ (with about 1000000 soldiers). So my point is that we didn’t fear at that time so we are less afraid nowadays."
I think it was childish that "Albanian wrath" towards Bulgaria was mentioned over detaining some politician. Naturally Albania and Bulgaria will not go to war with each other, I think it is more the Albanian community threatening to dismember Macedonia and such that seem to be implying it. I am a realist. The army of Bulgaria, however, is far better equipped than Albania's in terms of air force and armored forces, but whatever, it's not key to this article anyway.
"You should be very naive to think that the wrath can be expressed only by military means. There are many issues we could show it toward Bulgarians especially in Albania. I am sure that will not be the case since we all know the end of this adventure taken by any irresponsible Bulgarian politician. Both countries have had very good relations in the past and the presence so I don’t see any reason to worsen them by Bulgarian side. We have contributed to peace and stability in Balkans for years. We didn’t have many military capabilities in 1999 but we triggered NATO for the first time to bomb your brothers. The same took place in Macedonia with the implementation of Ohrid agreement. Moreover when the Interpol warrant is not valid in France it can not be in Bulgaria otherwise. Let me remind you that only 2 years ago the French presidents made possible the release of six Bulgarians in Libya sentenced with death by Gaddafi."
Well, other than force, I fail to see what wrath Albania can possibly show Bulgaria (not even that), given that Albania has no economic clout, no major political presence in the Balkans, what are you talking about then?
Albanians didn't trigger anyone in NATO, the US simply ignored a UNSC decision and went into Kosovo with their army on the grounds of civilian massacres being committed by Yugoslav forces and paramilitaries, so this is also not an example of wrath.
And how is Ohrid wrath?
And yes, Poles do consider Serbs as a brethren, not only because they are fellow Slavs and Christians, but also because we've have had a very hard past with foreign occupiers and we've both lost many people, so it should not be strange to you.
"Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku."
They are not my generals (there were no Polish generals in Kosovo, except under KFOR), I don't know why you think I support them, as long as every war criminal, regardless of nationality is tried (given a fair trial, of course), it makes no difference to me.
I do think, however, that one nation's criminal is another man's hero, so how do you objectively prove that Ceku is not responsible for any war crimes? Storm?
The One
It was not only Albania, I think it was every Warsaw Pact country. My parents also were taught to fire a gun in school, but this has nothing to do with the article anyway, I am going to stop writing now.
Mr. Çeku will be released today, he will never face Serbian jurisdiction.
(visar, 24 June 2009 10:27)
Never say never...let me tell you, it's best to free your mind so you can sleep at night as opposed to acting & portraying the "untouchable" diplomat that your thachi set you up to be....AGIM.
Denis wrote,
I don't think anything will happen at least not in a short term. This will be a technical win for Serbia, let it have it, but without a doubt it will push K-Alb even further from Serbia, and re-enforce their belief that Independence is the only way out.
K-Albanians could not be any further from Serbia now. You keep saying this for anything Serbia does. Stop making excuses for trying to break away. You have been dreaming of this for a century now.
Then you say,
If Serbia has any valid claims against Ceku, they can go to Hague. Why don't they do that? Go to Hague and avoid regional conflict. Is Serbian justice superior by any standard, especially towards albanians?
Why send hi to Hague? So that he can be set free like Haradinaj by that corrupt court.
And yes, Serbian justice is superior, to yours anyway. Serbia has already tried and convicted their own for crimes. Has "Kosova"?
Why are all the Ceku defenders here so certain that he is innocent of these crimes?
(Kalifornia, 24 June 2009 17:59)
Very-very good question. Perhaps because of that religion they call "Albanism"? It seems, according that religion, everything Albanian is blindly to believe, blindly to follow. I think, if they would know that "less is more" they would have much more sympathizers. With that attitude most who is supporting them are certain government circles in certain countries - out of selfish interest.
Why do you think of military threats. I am talking about Ballkans and Albanian-Bullgarina relations. We have been great support for Bullgaria and buy a lot of products from them. If Ceku is not released then I will start by boycoting Bullgarian products and making it harder for their products to reach Italy via our ports
However I have a funny feeling that ceku will be released and maybe an apology given
(UNE, 24 June 2009 16:06)
Do you mean like the effective boycott of all Serbian products by Kosovo Albanians? Oh, wait, they cannot even do that because all the stores here sell every kind of Serbian product imaginable. So much for the "wrath" of the ethnic Albanian boycott. What a joke.
Of course under some pressure this thug will be realesed.No problem.People are not stupid.This kind of pressure will only make patriotic Ataka party more popular in Bulgaria
(szemi, 24 June 2009 23:51)
Are you sure that "Ataka" is... PATRIOTIC? It looks like mirror image of "Jobbik"... And what is the difference between Balli Kombëtar and Jobbik and Ataka? For me just the language, they paint the same picture on the wall...
Nelli_Canada!!! I'm a Canadian too...i don't know if you're a true one ,but here even the primeminister face justice. So if you beloved criminal is a hero it doesn't mean he has immunity(US-EU).Justice for all- all the criminals in jail!
I would love more than anything to see this thug go to jail in Serbia. However, I'm sure that Wesley Clark, Vice President Joe Biden, Richard Holbrooke, and other Kosovo supporters are hot on this issue already making phone calls with false promises to the Bulgarians if Bulgaria releases Ceku. Franky, I don't think the Bulgarians have the stuff to send Ceku to Serbia. I believe I'll first see a green alien creature walk down 16th street toward the White House hand in hand with Santa Clause before Ceku is in Serbia. However, one can dream...
Of course under some pressure this thug will be realesed.No problem.People are not stupid.This kind of pressure will only make patriotic Ataka party more popular in Bulgaria as the inhabitants will be more and more fed up with the poodles of Washington and Brussels .Once they are in power recognition of UDI will be withdrawn.
I will never forget that beutiful text about freedom painted on the wall of Vasil Levski National Stadium in Sofia.
I wouldn't be surprised that this was all orchestrated by Pristina. Ceku has been stepping on some toes there, and this is the perfect way to be rid of him. Just like with organ harvesting, the Albanains are very creative with their solutions.
No Judas, there isn't. K_Albanians in Pristina practice media censorship, so there is no chance of anything anti-government said. This is the newest democracy in the Balkans.
...Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku.
(Marinels, 24 June 2009 18:09)
This is what commentators should read and learn.
You are very clear with your comment.
"Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia"-this is the reality!
Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even.
I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.
Peter Sudyka, 24 June
If you talk about the past Albania during the Hoxha regime didn't have an Army but was an Army everyone was trained to fight even the youngest people. So to annihilate an entire country is not that easy, especially when everyone was ready to die and was prepared for that. If you see the current situation in this part of the balkan except Greece, no one have an army that can be taken in consideration. The last thing; Albania and albanians have excellent relations with Montemegro and Bulgaria.
I respectfully ask any Albanian posters to tell me is there any albanian newspaper or TV web-site with english translation and open forum,like B-92,so I can post comments on current state of world and local affairs.Thank you!
I see that many Serbs in here want Ceku, Thaci, Haradinaj ... arrested or something else.
Lets say that they are arrested and sentenced in Serbia.
What after that? For sure, Serbia will never return to Kosova nor the people that sold their properties. I guess justice will be done for some that acuse them.
Based on this we are going to have thousands of Serbs arrested and tried in Kosova.
So many wishful thinking from serbs here!Why don't you make a list of your wishes and give it to Santa Claus,he may delivers your so called wanted "criminals" for Christmas?If you believe that K-Alb.Freedom fighters will be brought to "Justice" in serbia,then you certainly believe in the legend of Santa Claus!
Even if Bulgaria extradites him, serbia will not dare to arrest him, think of the consequenses that serbs will have in Kosovo, don´t think serbia whats to change 50 000 to 1, they are smarter than that, don´t forget, he has Croatians citizinship as well, one of the key commander on Operation Storm
A lot of interesting things are happening since Biden came to town, BG. Could this be a swap, Mladic for Ceku? The US could keep their hands clean, and the short-lived Albanian ire would be directed towards the Bulgaria, for some perks from the West, of course. Interesting events, indeed.
The Serbian Justice Ministry wants Ceku to stand trial for command responsibility for genocide and the murders of 669 Serbs and 18 other non-Albanians in Kosovo in 1999, Malović said.
It would've been more appropriate if you said the truth and gave the exact number of serb paramilitaries killed by Mr. Ceku's Units in Prizren and Rahovec region. That number is much higher than said from this guy.
Mr. Ceku is a true Hero of Kosova and Croatia. I don't think that serbia has a chance to get Ceku moved to serbia because no one believes in serb so-called democracy. serbia is asking for troubles and usually you get what you ask for.
One mans hero is anothers criminal. The law of murder however, is clearly defined and whether your a Serb or Albanian or Martian, if you kill, you must face the consequences and responsibilities of these actions, period. Agim Ceku's complicity in hundreds of killings is undeniable. Therefore, no Albanian should be surprised if he is ultimately jailed for his past. Jesus never killed anyone, quite the opposite, Mohammed never killed anyone either and they would never defend anyone like Ceku!
Peter, I have always carefully read you comments here and my conclusion is that the pan Slavic camp (and wider) can not swallow up so easy its defeat in Kosovo. That is especially reflected in some of your comments although you pretend to be unbiased. On one side you often criticize Russians for their past and sometimes the present, on another side when it comes to Kosovo you support Serbs even though the crimes committed by Serbs in the last decades are distinct for all of us in Balkans and Europawide. Let take a look at some paragraphs:
“Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even”.
That was very childish to mention this fact here which is in no way related with the situation we are talking about. I don’t think that there is any event which could trigger a confrontation between armies of Balkan countries even less now since the Bulgaria and Albania are NATO members. It is true that Bulgaria was one of the closest satellites of soviet communists with considerable military force but is didn’t mean that anybody feared it. Such armies had all ex communists countries even Albania. Nowadays the military hardware of both countries are nothing more than obsolete which doesn’t give Bulgaria any advantage as being military leader in Balkans. For you information the Russian army in 1960 couldn’t “annihilate” Albanian army as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia earlier and later or even Yugoslavia until 90’ (with about 1000000 soldiers). So my point is that we didn’t fear at that time so we are less afraid nowadays.
“I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.”
You should be very naive to think that the wrath can be expressed only by military means. There are many issues we could show it toward Bulgarians especially in Albania. I am sure that will not be the case since we all know the end of this adventure taken by any irresponsible Bulgarian politician. Both countries have had very good relations in the past and the presence so I don’t see any reason to worsen them by Bulgarian side. We have contributed to peace and stability in Balkans for years. We didn’t have many military capabilities in 1999 but we triggered NATO for the first time to bomb your brothers. The same took place in Macedonia with the implementation of Ohrid agreement. Moreover when the Interpol warrant is not valid in France it can not be in Bulgaria otherwise. Let me remind you that only 2 years ago the French presidents made possible the release of six Bulgarians in Libya sentenced with death by Gaddafi.
Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku.
Why is he only being charged for his crimes in 1999? He also needs to be charged for his role in the ethnic cleansing of Croatia of all non-Croats.
Why is Solomon Pasi hanging out with this gangster? Oh that's right, because he was an enthusiastic supporter of the KLA-NATO aggression against Serbs and Roma in 1999.
If only Thaci, Haradinaj and the rest of the Serb killing gangsters in Prishtina could be arrested too.
Extradite him Bulgaria! Stop catering to NATO's every whim and be the Balkan brother you used to be.
exclusive pics from bulgaria guys http://www.xenini.com/Agim-Ceku-lidhur.jpg
so cmon albanians show sportsmanship. the guy has warcrimes tails dragging after him not only in kosovo but croatia. our warrant is doing things to him i'm sure they wouldnt let me say in my comment so lets just leave it at that. but you know what it is. and you know sooner or later he will face fine serbian justice and finer still jails.
I hate to see any Albanian in front of a Serbian court, and if there was any other way at all to solve the problem I'd prefer it, but of all the criminals who poison Kosova's society Ceku is one of the very worst. I hope he rots in jail, even if it is a Serbian jail.
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Should be precisely ME who does remind you? :-P
(Ataman, 24 June 2009 15:41)
Ataman this is the first time I fully agree with you and laugh sweetly ;)
It's incredible how 2 million Kosovars do not understand the simple difference between "ç" and "q". So you have Tahçi not Thaqi.
Anyhow with these kind of things Serbia is looking only for trouble and I hope it will get it. If Serbia has any evidence on çeku send them to Hague.
This guy obviously has serious questions to answer so let him face justice and we'll see how the evidence stacks up. Yes, he should be extradited to Serbia. Meanwhile I wish the Albanian posters would acknowledge that there were many thugs and murderers in the ranks of the KLA.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 24 June 2009 15:42)
I can see that you have no clue at what he did . When he came from Crotaia and became Chief of staff for KLA, it was during NATO bombing. He simply re-orginized KLA units and coordinated the war with NATO.
NATO from air and KLA on the ground. He did not committ any crimes as Serbia claims, cause he is a professional soldier.
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Should be precisely ME who does remind you? :-P
(Ataman, 24 June 2009 15:41)
I am very suprised at you Ataman, as much as I respect your coments despite the differences of opinion.
I must tell you that in Albanian language is written THAQI, with Q but Internationals can write it anyway they like. In Albaninan vocabulary there is a Q and in English after Q must be a U, but not in Albanian language. English alphabet is made of 26 and Albanian 36.
By the way my origin is from KosovA, but I grew up in USA and hold duel citizenship.
Have a good one body.
Why are all the Ceku defenders here so certain that he is innocent of these crimes? Just because that's what you believe, or do any of you have proof of his innocence to these charges? Serbia obviously has proof that he is guilty - wouldn't they look bad it they didn't? I just hope the US/EU will keep their dirty hands out of this.
Hypothetically, if Ceku does get extradited to Serbia, what are the Albanians going to do about it?
(Zoran, 24 June 2009 16:20)
I don't think anything will happen at least not in a short term. This will be a technical win for Serbia, let it have it, but without a doubt it will push K-Alb even further from Serbia, and re-enforce their belief that Independence is the only way out.
If Serbia has any valid claims against Ceku, they can go to Hague. Why don't they do that? Go to Hague and avoid regional conflict. Is Serbian justice superior by any standard, especially towards albanians?
Kosovo might retaliate by issuing arrest warrants for Serb officials, and it will arrest them as they try to go over the border. What is Serbia going to do about it?
So as you can see, no one wins and this is a very unwise move from Serbia, trying to control K-Alb by force and intimidation. Serbia has tried to do this for decades and it has only worked against them and the peace in the Balkans. Have you not learned anything from history?
In the end this only fuels the resolve of the K-Alb to never ever live under a Serbian state again. Not sure what is Serbia's gain out of this? Ceku will become a greater hero in Kosovo, situation will be more tense in the region, retaliation, hate and conflict will gain more ground. If you are happy with this, God help you.
Why do you think of military threats. I am talking about Ballkans and Albanian-Bullgarina relations. We have been great support for Bullgaria and buy a lot of products from them. If Ceku is not released then I will start by boycoting Bullgarian products and making it harder for their products to reach Italy via our ports
However I have a funny feeling that ceku will be released and maybe an apology given
Une, I think you have it backwards, time for Albanians to face the wrath of all Balkan nations. You have been making trouble for 100's of years, all in the name independence. Well, independence means responsibility, and that includes arresting and putting on trial suspected war criminals. Just because Let's put Ceku on trial, and if he is innocent, he will walk, if not, he can rot. BTW, your Albanian threats of violence are getting old, no one is afraid of you.
This is just some childish games by Serbia so they can say they did somthing hehe.-
(Demi, 24 June 2009 14:43)
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Hypothetically, if Ceku does get extradited to Serbia, what are the Albanians going to do about it?
By the way.
Why is he wanted?
Are all Croatian officers wanted by Serbian courts?
What will happen to Serbian officers ionvolved in wars?
What are Serbia courts going to do?
Do they have capacities, credibility,impartiality for such a trial?
This guy obviously has serious questions to answer so let him face justice and we'll see how the evidence stacks up. Yes, he should be extradited to Serbia. Meanwhile I wish the Albanian posters would acknowledge that there were many thugs and murderers in the ranks of the KLA.
Rebel sits back, grabs his popcorn, and waits for Serbia to be slapped in the face again while premier Ceku flies home in the company of Western friends.
its about time to put this snake behind bars ,do the right thing bulgaria .
(zoki, 24 June 2009 13:10)
I would say, this is the "feathered" part of Quetzalcoatl, the Aztec "feathered serpent" deity devouring human organs. The "serpent" part is not him.
I.e. the nickname of Ceku is "pigeon", not "snake".
I have little hope he will be behind the bars soon tough - if still, maybe we can thank God (not Quetzal!) that HRC undergoes a little surgery at this moment... Anyway, it's amusing to see, what happens and I am crossing my fingers.
Nothing will come out of his arrest and he will be released soon.
(nikshala, 24 June 2009 14:38)
Here you are probably right. But even if not, he obviously has some VIP connections in Serbia.
Not sure how it is in your area (actually, I am pretty sure!) - but if you are married into "right" place, you will get only a little slap on your hand anyway.
I knew that his wife is Serb, but I did not know till now his wife ha such high connections. If that's the case, he is essentially untouchable even in Serbia Proper...
Thanks to an other poster regarding the information about Ponos link. I am surprised... but at the same time maybe not that much.
Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even.
I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you really believe that Serbia wants Çeku's extradition to Serbia? Did you ever thought what the consequences will be for Serbia if they ever have Çeku on their hands? The arm twisting, as someone mentioned, if it can happened to Bulgaria, an EU state, do you think it would not happened to Serbia, who is eager to join EU? Come on use common sense here. Serbia will never apply for extradition and Çeku will never be extradited because if it does then Serbia will be embarrassed when it will required to release soon after that.
You got you wires mixed, casue Snake is the actuall Kosovo PM and that is Mr. Thaqi THE famous Snake.
(Kosova-USA, 24 June 2009 13:49)
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Serbia is playing games and unfortunately the corrupted officials in Prishtina are doing nothing to stop these dirty games. Mr. Ceku is a well known public figure in Kosovo and to have have him arrested in some bogus claim defies the logic. Its time for the lazy politicians in Prishtina to wake up to reality and do some actual work that benefits the people of Kosovo and not just their deep pockets that never seem to be full. If I was working for the goverment of Kosovo I would be ashame today and I probably wear a sign that says my corrupt brain does not function so please kick me.
I'm always wondering why Albanians here condemn acts like that, instead of seeing it as a chance for cleaning their society from alleged criminal elements. Own state or not, I think they deserve a better government, without socalled "heroes" like those...
"The person that gave the order for his arrest will be sacked..."
Kosova-USA
You seem to believe that Ceku and albanians in general are some kind of untouchable Godfather(s). Anyone who stands in his(your) way will be sacked or will dissapear. Who do you think you are? If he commited crimes why shouldn't he face "real" justice? Is it just because he is Albanian?
Zoran, It is trouble for Mr.Ceku also but in the end he will be laughing at your politicans who are so frustrated to catch him but have no chance. Mr.Ceku is greater and more respectful than the serbian goverment.
This is just some childish games by Serbia so they can say they did somthing hehe.-
If the Bulgarians give in to US and British pressure it will set back the Bulgarian relations with Serbia a long long way and the Bulgarians could forget about future trade with Serbia not least the Summer holiday tourism by Serbia's citizens. Bulgaria of course is going to try to extort some sort of favor or money for Ceku's release. I just hope Obama will do the right thing and not get involved this time otherwise Obama will be seen as a joke much like Bush was, not to mention how much damage this will do to the creditability of Interpol. Furthermore if this monster is released then I think there will be ZERO chance that Mladic will ever be arrested, at least by the Serbians. Who knows maybe we will all be surprised in the extradition to Serbia will happen.
As an albanian from Kosovo, I do not actually blame Serbia for this incident, because I wouldn't expect anything less from Serbia, whose state policy and mentality towards albanias is well know by know and has been confirmed by various actions over and over again in the last 100 years.
I blame for this the Kosovan institutions for not taking enough actions directly through our powerful backers to make all warrant issued by Serbia against citizens of Kosovo, invalid.
At the same time, I also blame Kosovan authorities for not issuing arrests warrants for all the serbs that are known to have commited crimes in Kosovo, regarless of what position they hold, starting from the foot soldiers on the ground all the way to the very top - they will be in tens of thousands. They should also issue arrest warrants for all serbian politicians who make official speeches against the constitution in the territory of Kosovo, in addition to stopping them at the border. Some of these arrest warrant my not be very effective with Interpol, but they should issue them anyway.
At the same time I would like to add that from all the KLA commanders, Ceku is probably the most honest and one of the most respected in Kosovo. The sole reason why Serbia is so keen to arrest him, is because he defeated the serbs badly in every battle in Croatia.
He is a democratic man and the fact that he is married to a woman with some serbian heritage, also proves this.
While he was PM, he continualy tried to reach to the K. serbs by also directing to them in serbian language, despite his father getting massacred with other men in his village in '99 war.
Nothing will come out of his arrest and he will be released soon.
It must be frustrated for serbia to not have a chance to get their hands on Mr.Ceku.
(Demi, 24 June 2009 10:24)
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Frustrating for Serbia? Now I would say much more frustrating for Ceku who gets arrested everywhere he goes and for this backers, who have to come out of rest with fractured bones to save this terrorist.
Agim Çeku is a Hero!
He served as officer in the Croatian National Guard and after in Croatian army.He was closely involved in the subsequent Croatian War against the breakaway Republic of Serbian Krajina. He participated in several military operations, he first was in Operation Maslenica when he was the head of Velebit's artillery section, from January to February 1993, Operation Medak pocket near Gospic, in which he was wounded, and Operation Storm in August 1995 that captured most of the Krajina territory. Subsequently he continued the advance as head of Croatian forces into the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina fighting in western Bosnia against the forces of the Serb Republic in Operation Maestral.After the war the Croatian Army was reformed and President Franjo Tudjman named Çeku commanding officer of the Fifth District Region in Rijeka.In May 1999, Çeku was appointed the KLA's chief of staff.Çeku was the principal liaison between NATO and the KLA.Çeku was elected Prime Minister of Kosovo by the Kosovo Assembly.He is married to Dragica Ponoš.[10] (of Serbian and Croatian parentage and sister of former Chief of General Staff in the Serbian military, Zdravko Ponoš).
Some of Ceku Pictures:
http://images.google.com/images?q=agim+ceku&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&um=1&newwindow=1&imgsz=small|medium|large|xlarge
No one should be handed over to Serbia. Send him to the Hague. Maybe you would like to do the same to him as the Bytyqi brothers. hand over to Croatia and Bosnia Mlladic and lets see what kind of trial he gets. So please. he will be released or Bullgaria will face the wrath of albanians everywhere
This criminal should face justice. There has been to much leniency towards albanian warcriminals and the only way they will face justice is if we take care of it ourselves. Just hope Bulgaria won't succumb to outside pressure.
(MikeC, 24 June 2009 12:57)
Somebody in Bulgarian govermant made a big blunder and they will pay the price.
You are right MikeC, they will succumb to pressure, casue they have no choice in the matter. The person that gave the order for his arrest will be sacked before this saga is over, since he was invited officially to attend a meeting.
dear peggy, Serbia is a much greater joke when you think that they have the capacity for Interpol but everyone is hummiliating them by not following the procedure. Ceku is loughin his head off at the Serbian factless frusturation.
Ps Serbia, you only get what you put in. Your Interpol credibility is close to shameful, the ammount of criminals and thugs from Bosnia to new York. From war criminals to bar thugs aided by state sponsored forgeries.
Interpol warrant is usually not 100% baseless and one needs to do "more" to "achieve" it, than parking in wrong place.
Of course the heavy arm-twisting will begin again and of course Bulgaria will ultimately just deport him back to Pristina instead of Belgrade.
But ultimately he already pays the price: he is not welcome to many places and he can't just go at will like us everywhere and he has his honor violated already four times in the row.
It will stay till he has some "open" issues. It's up to him to "close" that chapter and here only direct talk with Serbia can help; the more grave are his crimes, the more difficult it will be.
I wonder how many hours it will take for Bernard Coucher, Hillary Clinton or Carl bildt to haw him released this time, 12 hours maybe?
Shore Milosevic was pointing the long finger to everyone, but he is dead now. but isn't it time for some real justice? Not every albanian can be innocent, not all Serbs can be guilty
This criminal should face justice. There has been to much leniency towards albanian warcriminals and the only way they will face justice is if we take care of it ourselves. Just hope Bulgaria won't succumb to outside pressure.
It must be frustrated for serbia to not have a chance to get their hands on Mr.Ceku. This childnes only grows tensions between albanians and serbs and have no impact on Mr.Ceku at all. We all know he will be relesed so why bother to catch him. For the time being you can play this game but just wait until Kosovo becomes member of Interpol. Then the game will be fair and we can play.
And it it is very good that Serbia cannot get their hands on Mr.Ceku because if they did there would be trouble for regional stability. Ceku is and Kosovar hero and not a criminal. Serbia ios just frustrated over Kosovo independence and this is the reaction.
He said that he believed that the Justice Ministry should immediately send an extradition application, since political pressure would soon begin to be exerted from various sides to secure the former Kosovo leader’s release.
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Serbia is trying very hard to provoke the Albanians into doing something bad. The irony of Serbia calling others "war criminals" is not lost on the west.
Since he is also a Croat, Croatia might return the favor....
He said that he believed that the Justice Ministry should immediately send an extradition application, since political pressure would soon begin to be exerted from various sides to secure the former Kosovo leader’s release.
Don't you worry about it, becasue he will be released today without any delay.
I wonder why Russia did not arrest him when he visited Mascow while back, since the same warrant was even then active???
Ceku, a former Kosovo Liberation Army commander, is accused of command responsibility for the deaths of 669 Serbs and 18 other non-Albanians.
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The likely outcome here is the US will gets its way to protect just another terrorist and war criminal. It wasn't that long ago when the US supported Saddam Hussien and Osama Bin Laden. We all know what good that did!
I wonder how many hours it will take for Bernard Coucher, Hillary Clinton or Carl bildt to haw him released this time, 12 hours maybe?
Shore Milosevic was pointing the long finger to everyone, but he is dead now. but isn't it time for some real justice? Not every albanian can be innocent, not all Serbs can be guilty
Ceku, a former Kosovo Liberation Army commander, is accused of command responsibility for the deaths of 669 Serbs and 18 other non-Albanians.
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The likely outcome here is the US will gets its way to protect just another terrorist and war criminal. It wasn't that long ago when the US supported Saddam Hussien and Osama Bin Laden. We all know what good that did!
This criminal should face justice. There has been to much leniency towards albanian warcriminals and the only way they will face justice is if we take care of it ourselves. Just hope Bulgaria won't succumb to outside pressure.
He said that he believed that the Justice Ministry should immediately send an extradition application, since political pressure would soon begin to be exerted from various sides to secure the former Kosovo leader’s release.
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Serbia is trying very hard to provoke the Albanians into doing something bad. The irony of Serbia calling others "war criminals" is not lost on the west.
Since he is also a Croat, Croatia might return the favor....
Interpol warrant is usually not 100% baseless and one needs to do "more" to "achieve" it, than parking in wrong place.
Of course the heavy arm-twisting will begin again and of course Bulgaria will ultimately just deport him back to Pristina instead of Belgrade.
But ultimately he already pays the price: he is not welcome to many places and he can't just go at will like us everywhere and he has his honor violated already four times in the row.
It will stay till he has some "open" issues. It's up to him to "close" that chapter and here only direct talk with Serbia can help; the more grave are his crimes, the more difficult it will be.
If the Bulgarians give in to US and British pressure it will set back the Bulgarian relations with Serbia a long long way and the Bulgarians could forget about future trade with Serbia not least the Summer holiday tourism by Serbia's citizens. Bulgaria of course is going to try to extort some sort of favor or money for Ceku's release. I just hope Obama will do the right thing and not get involved this time otherwise Obama will be seen as a joke much like Bush was, not to mention how much damage this will do to the creditability of Interpol. Furthermore if this monster is released then I think there will be ZERO chance that Mladic will ever be arrested, at least by the Serbians. Who knows maybe we will all be surprised in the extradition to Serbia will happen.
This guy obviously has serious questions to answer so let him face justice and we'll see how the evidence stacks up. Yes, he should be extradited to Serbia. Meanwhile I wish the Albanian posters would acknowledge that there were many thugs and murderers in the ranks of the KLA.
He said that he believed that the Justice Ministry should immediately send an extradition application, since political pressure would soon begin to be exerted from various sides to secure the former Kosovo leader’s release.
Don't you worry about it, becasue he will be released today without any delay.
I wonder why Russia did not arrest him when he visited Mascow while back, since the same warrant was even then active???
I'm always wondering why Albanians here condemn acts like that, instead of seeing it as a chance for cleaning their society from alleged criminal elements. Own state or not, I think they deserve a better government, without socalled "heroes" like those...
Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even.
I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.
"The person that gave the order for his arrest will be sacked..."
Kosova-USA
You seem to believe that Ceku and albanians in general are some kind of untouchable Godfather(s). Anyone who stands in his(your) way will be sacked or will dissapear. Who do you think you are? If he commited crimes why shouldn't he face "real" justice? Is it just because he is Albanian?
As an albanian from Kosovo, I do not actually blame Serbia for this incident, because I wouldn't expect anything less from Serbia, whose state policy and mentality towards albanias is well know by know and has been confirmed by various actions over and over again in the last 100 years.
I blame for this the Kosovan institutions for not taking enough actions directly through our powerful backers to make all warrant issued by Serbia against citizens of Kosovo, invalid.
At the same time, I also blame Kosovan authorities for not issuing arrests warrants for all the serbs that are known to have commited crimes in Kosovo, regarless of what position they hold, starting from the foot soldiers on the ground all the way to the very top - they will be in tens of thousands. They should also issue arrest warrants for all serbian politicians who make official speeches against the constitution in the territory of Kosovo, in addition to stopping them at the border. Some of these arrest warrant my not be very effective with Interpol, but they should issue them anyway.
At the same time I would like to add that from all the KLA commanders, Ceku is probably the most honest and one of the most respected in Kosovo. The sole reason why Serbia is so keen to arrest him, is because he defeated the serbs badly in every battle in Croatia.
He is a democratic man and the fact that he is married to a woman with some serbian heritage, also proves this.
While he was PM, he continualy tried to reach to the K. serbs by also directing to them in serbian language, despite his father getting massacred with other men in his village in '99 war.
Nothing will come out of his arrest and he will be released soon.
It must be frustrated for serbia to not have a chance to get their hands on Mr.Ceku. This childnes only grows tensions between albanians and serbs and have no impact on Mr.Ceku at all. We all know he will be relesed so why bother to catch him. For the time being you can play this game but just wait until Kosovo becomes member of Interpol. Then the game will be fair and we can play.
And it it is very good that Serbia cannot get their hands on Mr.Ceku because if they did there would be trouble for regional stability. Ceku is and Kosovar hero and not a criminal. Serbia ios just frustrated over Kosovo independence and this is the reaction.
It must be frustrated for serbia to not have a chance to get their hands on Mr.Ceku.
(Demi, 24 June 2009 10:24)
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Frustrating for Serbia? Now I would say much more frustrating for Ceku who gets arrested everywhere he goes and for this backers, who have to come out of rest with fractured bones to save this terrorist.
Une, I think you have it backwards, time for Albanians to face the wrath of all Balkan nations. You have been making trouble for 100's of years, all in the name independence. Well, independence means responsibility, and that includes arresting and putting on trial suspected war criminals. Just because Let's put Ceku on trial, and if he is innocent, he will walk, if not, he can rot. BTW, your Albanian threats of violence are getting old, no one is afraid of you.
exclusive pics from bulgaria guys http://www.xenini.com/Agim-Ceku-lidhur.jpg
so cmon albanians show sportsmanship. the guy has warcrimes tails dragging after him not only in kosovo but croatia. our warrant is doing things to him i'm sure they wouldnt let me say in my comment so lets just leave it at that. but you know what it is. and you know sooner or later he will face fine serbian justice and finer still jails.
You got you wires mixed, casue Snake is the actuall Kosovo PM and that is Mr. Thaqi THE famous Snake.
(Kosova-USA, 24 June 2009 13:49)
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Nothing will come out of his arrest and he will be released soon.
(nikshala, 24 June 2009 14:38)
Here you are probably right. But even if not, he obviously has some VIP connections in Serbia.
Not sure how it is in your area (actually, I am pretty sure!) - but if you are married into "right" place, you will get only a little slap on your hand anyway.
I knew that his wife is Serb, but I did not know till now his wife ha such high connections. If that's the case, he is essentially untouchable even in Serbia Proper...
Thanks to an other poster regarding the information about Ponos link. I am surprised... but at the same time maybe not that much.
Peter, I have always carefully read you comments here and my conclusion is that the pan Slavic camp (and wider) can not swallow up so easy its defeat in Kosovo. That is especially reflected in some of your comments although you pretend to be unbiased. On one side you often criticize Russians for their past and sometimes the present, on another side when it comes to Kosovo you support Serbs even though the crimes committed by Serbs in the last decades are distinct for all of us in Balkans and Europawide. Let take a look at some paragraphs:
“Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even”.
That was very childish to mention this fact here which is in no way related with the situation we are talking about. I don’t think that there is any event which could trigger a confrontation between armies of Balkan countries even less now since the Bulgaria and Albania are NATO members. It is true that Bulgaria was one of the closest satellites of soviet communists with considerable military force but is didn’t mean that anybody feared it. Such armies had all ex communists countries even Albania. Nowadays the military hardware of both countries are nothing more than obsolete which doesn’t give Bulgaria any advantage as being military leader in Balkans. For you information the Russian army in 1960 couldn’t “annihilate” Albanian army as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia earlier and later or even Yugoslavia until 90’ (with about 1000000 soldiers). So my point is that we didn’t fear at that time so we are less afraid nowadays.
“I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.”
You should be very naive to think that the wrath can be expressed only by military means. There are many issues we could show it toward Bulgarians especially in Albania. I am sure that will not be the case since we all know the end of this adventure taken by any irresponsible Bulgarian politician. Both countries have had very good relations in the past and the presence so I don’t see any reason to worsen them by Bulgarian side. We have contributed to peace and stability in Balkans for years. We didn’t have many military capabilities in 1999 but we triggered NATO for the first time to bomb your brothers. The same took place in Macedonia with the implementation of Ohrid agreement. Moreover when the Interpol warrant is not valid in France it can not be in Bulgaria otherwise. Let me remind you that only 2 years ago the French presidents made possible the release of six Bulgarians in Libya sentenced with death by Gaddafi.
Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku.
Why are all the Ceku defenders here so certain that he is innocent of these crimes? Just because that's what you believe, or do any of you have proof of his innocence to these charges? Serbia obviously has proof that he is guilty - wouldn't they look bad it they didn't? I just hope the US/EU will keep their dirty hands out of this.
dear peggy, Serbia is a much greater joke when you think that they have the capacity for Interpol but everyone is hummiliating them by not following the procedure. Ceku is loughin his head off at the Serbian factless frusturation.
Ps Serbia, you only get what you put in. Your Interpol credibility is close to shameful, the ammount of criminals and thugs from Bosnia to new York. From war criminals to bar thugs aided by state sponsored forgeries.
This is just some childish games by Serbia so they can say they did somthing hehe.-
(Demi, 24 June 2009 14:43)
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Hypothetically, if Ceku does get extradited to Serbia, what are the Albanians going to do about it?
I respectfully ask any Albanian posters to tell me is there any albanian newspaper or TV web-site with english translation and open forum,like B-92,so I can post comments on current state of world and local affairs.Thank you!
No one should be handed over to Serbia. Send him to the Hague. Maybe you would like to do the same to him as the Bytyqi brothers. hand over to Croatia and Bosnia Mlladic and lets see what kind of trial he gets. So please. he will be released or Bullgaria will face the wrath of albanians everywhere
Why is he only being charged for his crimes in 1999? He also needs to be charged for his role in the ethnic cleansing of Croatia of all non-Croats.
Why is Solomon Pasi hanging out with this gangster? Oh that's right, because he was an enthusiastic supporter of the KLA-NATO aggression against Serbs and Roma in 1999.
If only Thaci, Haradinaj and the rest of the Serb killing gangsters in Prishtina could be arrested too.
Extradite him Bulgaria! Stop catering to NATO's every whim and be the Balkan brother you used to be.
No Judas, there isn't. K_Albanians in Pristina practice media censorship, so there is no chance of anything anti-government said. This is the newest democracy in the Balkans.
Agim Çeku is a Hero!
He served as officer in the Croatian National Guard and after in Croatian army.He was closely involved in the subsequent Croatian War against the breakaway Republic of Serbian Krajina. He participated in several military operations, he first was in Operation Maslenica when he was the head of Velebit's artillery section, from January to February 1993, Operation Medak pocket near Gospic, in which he was wounded, and Operation Storm in August 1995 that captured most of the Krajina territory. Subsequently he continued the advance as head of Croatian forces into the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina fighting in western Bosnia against the forces of the Serb Republic in Operation Maestral.After the war the Croatian Army was reformed and President Franjo Tudjman named Çeku commanding officer of the Fifth District Region in Rijeka.In May 1999, Çeku was appointed the KLA's chief of staff.Çeku was the principal liaison between NATO and the KLA.Çeku was elected Prime Minister of Kosovo by the Kosovo Assembly.He is married to Dragica Ponoš.[10] (of Serbian and Croatian parentage and sister of former Chief of General Staff in the Serbian military, Zdravko Ponoš).
Some of Ceku Pictures:
http://images.google.com/images?q=agim+ceku&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&um=1&newwindow=1&imgsz=small|medium|large|xlarge
its about time to put this snake behind bars ,do the right thing bulgaria .
(zoki, 24 June 2009 13:10)
I would say, this is the "feathered" part of Quetzalcoatl, the Aztec "feathered serpent" deity devouring human organs. The "serpent" part is not him.
I.e. the nickname of Ceku is "pigeon", not "snake".
I have little hope he will be behind the bars soon tough - if still, maybe we can thank God (not Quetzal!) that HRC undergoes a little surgery at this moment... Anyway, it's amusing to see, what happens and I am crossing my fingers.
This criminal should face justice. There has been to much leniency towards albanian warcriminals and the only way they will face justice is if we take care of it ourselves. Just hope Bulgaria won't succumb to outside pressure.
(MikeC, 24 June 2009 12:57)
Somebody in Bulgarian govermant made a big blunder and they will pay the price.
You are right MikeC, they will succumb to pressure, casue they have no choice in the matter. The person that gave the order for his arrest will be sacked before this saga is over, since he was invited officially to attend a meeting.
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you really believe that Serbia wants Çeku's extradition to Serbia? Did you ever thought what the consequences will be for Serbia if they ever have Çeku on their hands? The arm twisting, as someone mentioned, if it can happened to Bulgaria, an EU state, do you think it would not happened to Serbia, who is eager to join EU? Come on use common sense here. Serbia will never apply for extradition and Çeku will never be extradited because if it does then Serbia will be embarrassed when it will required to release soon after that.
I would love more than anything to see this thug go to jail in Serbia. However, I'm sure that Wesley Clark, Vice President Joe Biden, Richard Holbrooke, and other Kosovo supporters are hot on this issue already making phone calls with false promises to the Bulgarians if Bulgaria releases Ceku. Franky, I don't think the Bulgarians have the stuff to send Ceku to Serbia. I believe I'll first see a green alien creature walk down 16th street toward the White House hand in hand with Santa Clause before Ceku is in Serbia. However, one can dream...
I wouldn't be surprised that this was all orchestrated by Pristina. Ceku has been stepping on some toes there, and this is the perfect way to be rid of him. Just like with organ harvesting, the Albanains are very creative with their solutions.
Serbia is playing games and unfortunately the corrupted officials in Prishtina are doing nothing to stop these dirty games. Mr. Ceku is a well known public figure in Kosovo and to have have him arrested in some bogus claim defies the logic. Its time for the lazy politicians in Prishtina to wake up to reality and do some actual work that benefits the people of Kosovo and not just their deep pockets that never seem to be full. If I was working for the goverment of Kosovo I would be ashame today and I probably wear a sign that says my corrupt brain does not function so please kick me.
By the way.
Why is he wanted?
Are all Croatian officers wanted by Serbian courts?
What will happen to Serbian officers ionvolved in wars?
What are Serbia courts going to do?
Do they have capacities, credibility,impartiality for such a trial?
This guy obviously has serious questions to answer so let him face justice and we'll see how the evidence stacks up. Yes, he should be extradited to Serbia. Meanwhile I wish the Albanian posters would acknowledge that there were many thugs and murderers in the ranks of the KLA.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 24 June 2009 15:42)
I can see that you have no clue at what he did . When he came from Crotaia and became Chief of staff for KLA, it was during NATO bombing. He simply re-orginized KLA units and coordinated the war with NATO.
NATO from air and KLA on the ground. He did not committ any crimes as Serbia claims, cause he is a professional soldier.
One mans hero is anothers criminal. The law of murder however, is clearly defined and whether your a Serb or Albanian or Martian, if you kill, you must face the consequences and responsibilities of these actions, period. Agim Ceku's complicity in hundreds of killings is undeniable. Therefore, no Albanian should be surprised if he is ultimately jailed for his past. Jesus never killed anyone, quite the opposite, Mohammed never killed anyone either and they would never defend anyone like Ceku!
Zoran, It is trouble for Mr.Ceku also but in the end he will be laughing at your politicans who are so frustrated to catch him but have no chance. Mr.Ceku is greater and more respectful than the serbian goverment.
This is just some childish games by Serbia so they can say they did somthing hehe.-
Hypothetically, if Ceku does get extradited to Serbia, what are the Albanians going to do about it?
(Zoran, 24 June 2009 16:20)
I don't think anything will happen at least not in a short term. This will be a technical win for Serbia, let it have it, but without a doubt it will push K-Alb even further from Serbia, and re-enforce their belief that Independence is the only way out.
If Serbia has any valid claims against Ceku, they can go to Hague. Why don't they do that? Go to Hague and avoid regional conflict. Is Serbian justice superior by any standard, especially towards albanians?
Kosovo might retaliate by issuing arrest warrants for Serb officials, and it will arrest them as they try to go over the border. What is Serbia going to do about it?
So as you can see, no one wins and this is a very unwise move from Serbia, trying to control K-Alb by force and intimidation. Serbia has tried to do this for decades and it has only worked against them and the peace in the Balkans. Have you not learned anything from history?
In the end this only fuels the resolve of the K-Alb to never ever live under a Serbian state again. Not sure what is Serbia's gain out of this? Ceku will become a greater hero in Kosovo, situation will be more tense in the region, retaliation, hate and conflict will gain more ground. If you are happy with this, God help you.
The Serbian Justice Ministry wants Ceku to stand trial for command responsibility for genocide and the murders of 669 Serbs and 18 other non-Albanians in Kosovo in 1999, Malović said.
It would've been more appropriate if you said the truth and gave the exact number of serb paramilitaries killed by Mr. Ceku's Units in Prizren and Rahovec region. That number is much higher than said from this guy.
Mr. Ceku is a true Hero of Kosova and Croatia. I don't think that serbia has a chance to get Ceku moved to serbia because no one believes in serb so-called democracy. serbia is asking for troubles and usually you get what you ask for.
I hate to see any Albanian in front of a Serbian court, and if there was any other way at all to solve the problem I'd prefer it, but of all the criminals who poison Kosova's society Ceku is one of the very worst. I hope he rots in jail, even if it is a Serbian jail.
Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even.
I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.
Peter Sudyka, 24 June
If you talk about the past Albania during the Hoxha regime didn't have an Army but was an Army everyone was trained to fight even the youngest people. So to annihilate an entire country is not that easy, especially when everyone was ready to die and was prepared for that. If you see the current situation in this part of the balkan except Greece, no one have an army that can be taken in consideration. The last thing; Albania and albanians have excellent relations with Montemegro and Bulgaria.
If Ceku is sent to Serbia to stand trial in a Serbian court, I will feel very sorry for any Serb living in Kosova.
Remember what happened in March 2004.
(Michael John, 25 June 2009 06:42)
Wow, you cannot be any more plain than this.
So, if Serbia dares to put an Albanian criminal on trial you are going to take your revenge on every innocent Serb in Kosovo. Do you honstly belive that you would get away with it again?
Nobody in the world would blame Serbia for rolling their tanks in again.
What would you say if I said that if Ceku is released from Bulgaria every Albanian in Serbia will feel the wrath of Serbian people? How would you react to something like this?
Of course under some pressure this thug will be realesed.No problem.People are not stupid.This kind of pressure will only make patriotic Ataka party more popular in Bulgaria as the inhabitants will be more and more fed up with the poodles of Washington and Brussels .Once they are in power recognition of UDI will be withdrawn.
I will never forget that beutiful text about freedom painted on the wall of Vasil Levski National Stadium in Sofia.
Rebel sits back, grabs his popcorn, and waits for Serbia to be slapped in the face again while premier Ceku flies home in the company of Western friends.
A lot of interesting things are happening since Biden came to town, BG. Could this be a swap, Mladic for Ceku? The US could keep their hands clean, and the short-lived Albanian ire would be directed towards the Bulgaria, for some perks from the West, of course. Interesting events, indeed.
Why do you think of military threats. I am talking about Ballkans and Albanian-Bullgarina relations. We have been great support for Bullgaria and buy a lot of products from them. If Ceku is not released then I will start by boycoting Bullgarian products and making it harder for their products to reach Italy via our ports
However I have a funny feeling that ceku will be released and maybe an apology given
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Should be precisely ME who does remind you? :-P
(Ataman, 24 June 2009 15:41)
I am very suprised at you Ataman, as much as I respect your coments despite the differences of opinion.
I must tell you that in Albanian language is written THAQI, with Q but Internationals can write it anyway they like. In Albaninan vocabulary there is a Q and in English after Q must be a U, but not in Albanian language. English alphabet is made of 26 and Albanian 36.
By the way my origin is from KosovA, but I grew up in USA and hold duel citizenship.
Have a good one body.
And it it is very good that Serbia cannot get their hands on Mr.Ceku because if they did there would be trouble for regional stability. Ceku is and Kosovar hero and not a criminal. Serbia ios just frustrated over Kosovo independence and this is the reaction.
(Demi, 24 June 2009 10:24)
Sure, in Kosovo all criminals are heroes and all criminals are heroes. Just look at all the wonderful heroes in the local kosovo government.
If Ceku is sent to Serbia to stand trial in a Serbian court, I will feel very sorry for any Serb living in Kosova.
Remember what happened in March 2004.
(Michael John, 25 June 2009 06:42)
If that is not incitement to violence, I dont know what is.
I'm sure if Serbia started a pogrom against the Belgrade & Presevo Albanians, the irridentist Albanian mob would be up in arms.
Where is our self righteous 'defender' of ethnic tolerance and peace, Mr Roberto Russ from 'frisco'. Oh I forgot its Serbs here so they do not appear on his moral radar.
So many wishful thinking from serbs here!Why don't you make a list of your wishes and give it to Santa Claus,he may delivers your so called wanted "criminals" for Christmas?If you believe that K-Alb.Freedom fighters will be brought to "Justice" in serbia,then you certainly believe in the legend of Santa Claus!
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Should be precisely ME who does remind you? :-P
(Ataman, 24 June 2009 15:41)
Ataman this is the first time I fully agree with you and laugh sweetly ;)
It's incredible how 2 million Kosovars do not understand the simple difference between "ç" and "q". So you have Tahçi not Thaqi.
Anyhow with these kind of things Serbia is looking only for trouble and I hope it will get it. If Serbia has any evidence on çeku send them to Hague.
Why do you think of military threats. I am talking about Ballkans and Albanian-Bullgarina relations. We have been great support for Bullgaria and buy a lot of products from them. If Ceku is not released then I will start by boycoting Bullgarian products and making it harder for their products to reach Italy via our ports
However I have a funny feeling that ceku will be released and maybe an apology given
(UNE, 24 June 2009 16:06)
Do you mean like the effective boycott of all Serbian products by Kosovo Albanians? Oh, wait, they cannot even do that because all the stores here sell every kind of Serbian product imaginable. So much for the "wrath" of the ethnic Albanian boycott. What a joke.
Why are all the Ceku defenders here so certain that he is innocent of these crimes?
(Kalifornia, 24 June 2009 17:59)
Very-very good question. Perhaps because of that religion they call "Albanism"? It seems, according that religion, everything Albanian is blindly to believe, blindly to follow. I think, if they would know that "less is more" they would have much more sympathizers. With that attitude most who is supporting them are certain government circles in certain countries - out of selfish interest.
When you say "wrath", one only thinks of a coersive threat, I think you should have chosen a better word, because that's how it came across in your statement.
Marinels
"Peter, I have always carefully read you comments here and my conclusion is that the pan Slavic camp (and wider) can not swallow up so easy its defeat in Kosovo."
It's not a defeat, until the whole of the international community recognizes Kosovo's independence, like every other independent state out there is. It's not over yet, and won't be until there is some kind of mutual agreement, that is the reality on the ground. There is still international law and territorial integrity, things that has kept Europe away from another world war. Why do I say this? Because as a Pole, I know what problems land can cause between two nations.
"That is especially reflected in some of your comments although you pretend to be unbiased."
I really do try to be unbiased, but I do tend to lean towards Serbia's arguement, because I do think that they are trying to redeem themselves and are still being punished for a regime long-time gone, and tend to find hypocrisy from the Albanian side when they are trying to claim what a model multi-ethnic state Kosovo is, but they cannot seem to see themselves living in a multi-ethnic state under Serbia. That's what I have noticed over time, hence me leaning.
"On one side you often criticize Russians for their past and sometimes the present, on another side when it comes to Kosovo you support Serbs even though the crimes committed by Serbs in the last decades are distinct for all of us in Balkans and Europawide."
I fail to see what those two things have to do with each other. Why, if I lean towards Serbia's argument, do I by default have to side with Russia? The two have nothing to do with each other when it comes to my viewpoints. I do not support Serbian crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo at all, they are wrong, just like any war crimes, but to punish the current state of Serbia for the crimes of another regime a decade back, is not fair.
And one thing, the Russian crimes (OK, to be fair, Soviet crimes, though it's still the same capital city) of the past against the Polish people are considerably harsher than any Serbian crimes during the Yugoslav Wars in terms of sheer numbers of victims, so naturally I am going to criticize Russia for the past (for which they have still not apologized at all, hence me criticizing the present Russian government).
"That was very childish to mention this fact here which is in no way related with the situation we are talking about. I don’t think that there is any event which could trigger a confrontation between armies of Balkan countries even less now since the Bulgaria and Albania are NATO members. It is true that Bulgaria was one of the closest satellites of soviet communists with considerable military force but is didn’t mean that anybody feared it. Such armies had all ex communists countries even Albania. Nowadays the military hardware of both countries are nothing more than obsolete which doesn’t give Bulgaria any advantage as being military leader in Balkans. For you information the Russian army in 1960 couldn’t “annihilate” Albanian army as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia earlier and later or even Yugoslavia until 90’ (with about 1000000 soldiers). So my point is that we didn’t fear at that time so we are less afraid nowadays."
I think it was childish that "Albanian wrath" towards Bulgaria was mentioned over detaining some politician. Naturally Albania and Bulgaria will not go to war with each other, I think it is more the Albanian community threatening to dismember Macedonia and such that seem to be implying it. I am a realist. The army of Bulgaria, however, is far better equipped than Albania's in terms of air force and armored forces, but whatever, it's not key to this article anyway.
"You should be very naive to think that the wrath can be expressed only by military means. There are many issues we could show it toward Bulgarians especially in Albania. I am sure that will not be the case since we all know the end of this adventure taken by any irresponsible Bulgarian politician. Both countries have had very good relations in the past and the presence so I don’t see any reason to worsen them by Bulgarian side. We have contributed to peace and stability in Balkans for years. We didn’t have many military capabilities in 1999 but we triggered NATO for the first time to bomb your brothers. The same took place in Macedonia with the implementation of Ohrid agreement. Moreover when the Interpol warrant is not valid in France it can not be in Bulgaria otherwise. Let me remind you that only 2 years ago the French presidents made possible the release of six Bulgarians in Libya sentenced with death by Gaddafi."
Well, other than force, I fail to see what wrath Albania can possibly show Bulgaria (not even that), given that Albania has no economic clout, no major political presence in the Balkans, what are you talking about then?
Albanians didn't trigger anyone in NATO, the US simply ignored a UNSC decision and went into Kosovo with their army on the grounds of civilian massacres being committed by Yugoslav forces and paramilitaries, so this is also not an example of wrath.
And how is Ohrid wrath?
And yes, Poles do consider Serbs as a brethren, not only because they are fellow Slavs and Christians, but also because we've have had a very hard past with foreign occupiers and we've both lost many people, so it should not be strange to you.
"Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku."
They are not my generals (there were no Polish generals in Kosovo, except under KFOR), I don't know why you think I support them, as long as every war criminal, regardless of nationality is tried (given a fair trial, of course), it makes no difference to me.
I do think, however, that one nation's criminal is another man's hero, so how do you objectively prove that Ceku is not responsible for any war crimes? Storm?
The One
It was not only Albania, I think it was every Warsaw Pact country. My parents also were taught to fire a gun in school, but this has nothing to do with the article anyway, I am going to stop writing now.
Serbs and Bulgarians may be very close in language and religion, but that closeness made them bitter rivals since the Middle Ages. If the Bulgarians deport Ceku to Serbia that would change nothing. Serbs will yell huray.. for few days, but it is unlikely the two countries would ever become close allies. Ataka is hardly a patriotic ogranization. Sure it is anti-Western, but Bulgaria managed ot jump the hurdle and join NATO and EU where it hardly belongs, being the poores in the EU family. But within a generation it will bland in prefectly, because Bulgarians are generaly conformists, not rebels. So why should Bulgaria risk the wrath of its allies for the unlikely gratitude of an unlikely friend?
He'll be released tomorrow, or else.
(Clinton W., 25 June 2009 00:33)
Or else what? What is thath you are going to do? Replace him in jail and serve sentence instead of him. Threats like this shouldn't scare anyone, Agim Ceku is a war criminal. He is responsible for massacres in Medak (800 civilians killed) and for massacres in Kosovo&Metohija. People like him should hope only worst because thats exactly what they deserve.
I see that many Serbs in here want Ceku, Thaci, Haradinaj ... arrested or something else.
Lets say that they are arrested and sentenced in Serbia.
What after that? For sure, Serbia will never return to Kosova nor the people that sold their properties. I guess justice will be done for some that acuse them.
Based on this we are going to have thousands of Serbs arrested and tried in Kosova.
Denis wrote,
I don't think anything will happen at least not in a short term. This will be a technical win for Serbia, let it have it, but without a doubt it will push K-Alb even further from Serbia, and re-enforce their belief that Independence is the only way out.
K-Albanians could not be any further from Serbia now. You keep saying this for anything Serbia does. Stop making excuses for trying to break away. You have been dreaming of this for a century now.
Then you say,
If Serbia has any valid claims against Ceku, they can go to Hague. Why don't they do that? Go to Hague and avoid regional conflict. Is Serbian justice superior by any standard, especially towards albanians?
Why send hi to Hague? So that he can be set free like Haradinaj by that corrupt court.
And yes, Serbian justice is superior, to yours anyway. Serbia has already tried and convicted their own for crimes. Has "Kosova"?
Mr. Çeku will be released today, he will never face Serbian jurisdiction.
(visar, 24 June 2009 10:27)
Never say never...let me tell you, it's best to free your mind so you can sleep at night as opposed to acting & portraying the "untouchable" diplomat that your thachi set you up to be....AGIM.
Even if Bulgaria extradites him, serbia will not dare to arrest him, think of the consequenses that serbs will have in Kosovo, don´t think serbia whats to change 50 000 to 1, they are smarter than that, don´t forget, he has Croatians citizinship as well, one of the key commander on Operation Storm
Nelli_Canada!!! I'm a Canadian too...i don't know if you're a true one ,but here even the primeminister face justice. So if you beloved criminal is a hero it doesn't mean he has immunity(US-EU).Justice for all- all the criminals in jail!
Of course under some pressure this thug will be realesed.No problem.People are not stupid.This kind of pressure will only make patriotic Ataka party more popular in Bulgaria
(szemi, 24 June 2009 23:51)
Are you sure that "Ataka" is... PATRIOTIC? It looks like mirror image of "Jobbik"... And what is the difference between Balli Kombëtar and Jobbik and Ataka? For me just the language, they paint the same picture on the wall...
...Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku.
(Marinels, 24 June 2009 18:09)
This is what commentators should read and learn.
You are very clear with your comment.
"Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia"-this is the reality!
Indeed some points seem populist and unrealistic mainly those related to economy.AS to some other points they are rather self-defensive and given how much bulgarians suffered under islamoimperialism for centuries I can understand them .
The answer is given by the Bulgarian Foreign Minister, not leaving besides the involvement of France, USA and Great Britain to release him.
This is what Bulgarian FM says:“I expect him to be released. Obviously legal frameworks have to be fulfilled, and our country obviously cannot prejudge the decision, but it’s possible... it’s possible that he could be released on the basis that Bulgaria has recognized Kosovo,“ said Klyuchkov.
I think you again make the same mistake as when you put Iran and Saudi Arabia in one camp(it is such a nonsense as putting serbs and albans in one camp).ATAKA is by no means a mirror version of Jobbik.Radical does not automaticly mean Nazi as some pseudoliberal media organs would like to suggest.In fact as opposed to jobbik ATAKA is anti-nazi and very chritical of those who made bulgaria side with germans during world wars.See their main opponents on bulgarian political scene:http://www.ataka.bg/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=31 And while for the followers of Balli Kombëtar and Jobbik Hitler is an icon for Ataka supporters he is just the opposite.And I would like to remind you that during WW2 the most radical elements of Serb and Polish society were the members of antihitlerist resistance.
No one was interested in the purpose of Ceku's visit - to discuss Kosova's future entry into NATO? I thought they would have to wait much longer before even starting to think about this. It's probably the best way of ensuring stability in the region, though.
It must be frustrated for serbia to not have a chance to get their hands on Mr.Ceku. This childnes only grows tensions between albanians and serbs and have no impact on Mr.Ceku at all. We all know he will be relesed so why bother to catch him. For the time being you can play this game but just wait until Kosovo becomes member of Interpol. Then the game will be fair and we can play.
And it it is very good that Serbia cannot get their hands on Mr.Ceku because if they did there would be trouble for regional stability. Ceku is and Kosovar hero and not a criminal. Serbia ios just frustrated over Kosovo independence and this is the reaction.
He said that he believed that the Justice Ministry should immediately send an extradition application, since political pressure would soon begin to be exerted from various sides to secure the former Kosovo leader’s release.
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Serbia is trying very hard to provoke the Albanians into doing something bad. The irony of Serbia calling others "war criminals" is not lost on the west.
Since he is also a Croat, Croatia might return the favor....
Ceku, a former Kosovo Liberation Army commander, is accused of command responsibility for the deaths of 669 Serbs and 18 other non-Albanians.
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The likely outcome here is the US will gets its way to protect just another terrorist and war criminal. It wasn't that long ago when the US supported Saddam Hussien and Osama Bin Laden. We all know what good that did!
He said that he believed that the Justice Ministry should immediately send an extradition application, since political pressure would soon begin to be exerted from various sides to secure the former Kosovo leader’s release.
Don't you worry about it, becasue he will be released today without any delay.
I wonder why Russia did not arrest him when he visited Mascow while back, since the same warrant was even then active???
Agim Çeku is a Hero!
He served as officer in the Croatian National Guard and after in Croatian army.He was closely involved in the subsequent Croatian War against the breakaway Republic of Serbian Krajina. He participated in several military operations, he first was in Operation Maslenica when he was the head of Velebit's artillery section, from January to February 1993, Operation Medak pocket near Gospic, in which he was wounded, and Operation Storm in August 1995 that captured most of the Krajina territory. Subsequently he continued the advance as head of Croatian forces into the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina fighting in western Bosnia against the forces of the Serb Republic in Operation Maestral.After the war the Croatian Army was reformed and President Franjo Tudjman named Çeku commanding officer of the Fifth District Region in Rijeka.In May 1999, Çeku was appointed the KLA's chief of staff.Çeku was the principal liaison between NATO and the KLA.Çeku was elected Prime Minister of Kosovo by the Kosovo Assembly.He is married to Dragica Ponoš.[10] (of Serbian and Croatian parentage and sister of former Chief of General Staff in the Serbian military, Zdravko Ponoš).
Some of Ceku Pictures:
http://images.google.com/images?q=agim+ceku&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&um=1&newwindow=1&imgsz=small|medium|large|xlarge
This criminal should face justice. There has been to much leniency towards albanian warcriminals and the only way they will face justice is if we take care of it ourselves. Just hope Bulgaria won't succumb to outside pressure.
(MikeC, 24 June 2009 12:57)
Somebody in Bulgarian govermant made a big blunder and they will pay the price.
You are right MikeC, they will succumb to pressure, casue they have no choice in the matter. The person that gave the order for his arrest will be sacked before this saga is over, since he was invited officially to attend a meeting.
dear peggy, Serbia is a much greater joke when you think that they have the capacity for Interpol but everyone is hummiliating them by not following the procedure. Ceku is loughin his head off at the Serbian factless frusturation.
Ps Serbia, you only get what you put in. Your Interpol credibility is close to shameful, the ammount of criminals and thugs from Bosnia to new York. From war criminals to bar thugs aided by state sponsored forgeries.
Zoran, It is trouble for Mr.Ceku also but in the end he will be laughing at your politicans who are so frustrated to catch him but have no chance. Mr.Ceku is greater and more respectful than the serbian goverment.
This is just some childish games by Serbia so they can say they did somthing hehe.-
As an albanian from Kosovo, I do not actually blame Serbia for this incident, because I wouldn't expect anything less from Serbia, whose state policy and mentality towards albanias is well know by know and has been confirmed by various actions over and over again in the last 100 years.
I blame for this the Kosovan institutions for not taking enough actions directly through our powerful backers to make all warrant issued by Serbia against citizens of Kosovo, invalid.
At the same time, I also blame Kosovan authorities for not issuing arrests warrants for all the serbs that are known to have commited crimes in Kosovo, regarless of what position they hold, starting from the foot soldiers on the ground all the way to the very top - they will be in tens of thousands. They should also issue arrest warrants for all serbian politicians who make official speeches against the constitution in the territory of Kosovo, in addition to stopping them at the border. Some of these arrest warrant my not be very effective with Interpol, but they should issue them anyway.
At the same time I would like to add that from all the KLA commanders, Ceku is probably the most honest and one of the most respected in Kosovo. The sole reason why Serbia is so keen to arrest him, is because he defeated the serbs badly in every battle in Croatia.
He is a democratic man and the fact that he is married to a woman with some serbian heritage, also proves this.
While he was PM, he continualy tried to reach to the K. serbs by also directing to them in serbian language, despite his father getting massacred with other men in his village in '99 war.
Nothing will come out of his arrest and he will be released soon.
No one should be handed over to Serbia. Send him to the Hague. Maybe you would like to do the same to him as the Bytyqi brothers. hand over to Croatia and Bosnia Mlladic and lets see what kind of trial he gets. So please. he will be released or Bullgaria will face the wrath of albanians everywhere
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you really believe that Serbia wants Çeku's extradition to Serbia? Did you ever thought what the consequences will be for Serbia if they ever have Çeku on their hands? The arm twisting, as someone mentioned, if it can happened to Bulgaria, an EU state, do you think it would not happened to Serbia, who is eager to join EU? Come on use common sense here. Serbia will never apply for extradition and Çeku will never be extradited because if it does then Serbia will be embarrassed when it will required to release soon after that.
This guy obviously has serious questions to answer so let him face justice and we'll see how the evidence stacks up. Yes, he should be extradited to Serbia. Meanwhile I wish the Albanian posters would acknowledge that there were many thugs and murderers in the ranks of the KLA.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 24 June 2009 15:42)
I can see that you have no clue at what he did . When he came from Crotaia and became Chief of staff for KLA, it was during NATO bombing. He simply re-orginized KLA units and coordinated the war with NATO.
NATO from air and KLA on the ground. He did not committ any crimes as Serbia claims, cause he is a professional soldier.
I see that many Serbs in here want Ceku, Thaci, Haradinaj ... arrested or something else.
Lets say that they are arrested and sentenced in Serbia.
What after that? For sure, Serbia will never return to Kosova nor the people that sold their properties. I guess justice will be done for some that acuse them.
Based on this we are going to have thousands of Serbs arrested and tried in Kosova.
I wonder how many hours it will take for Bernard Coucher, Hillary Clinton or Carl bildt to haw him released this time, 12 hours maybe?
Shore Milosevic was pointing the long finger to everyone, but he is dead now. but isn't it time for some real justice? Not every albanian can be innocent, not all Serbs can be guilty
Rebel sits back, grabs his popcorn, and waits for Serbia to be slapped in the face again while premier Ceku flies home in the company of Western friends.
Serbia is playing games and unfortunately the corrupted officials in Prishtina are doing nothing to stop these dirty games. Mr. Ceku is a well known public figure in Kosovo and to have have him arrested in some bogus claim defies the logic. Its time for the lazy politicians in Prishtina to wake up to reality and do some actual work that benefits the people of Kosovo and not just their deep pockets that never seem to be full. If I was working for the goverment of Kosovo I would be ashame today and I probably wear a sign that says my corrupt brain does not function so please kick me.
Why do you think of military threats. I am talking about Ballkans and Albanian-Bullgarina relations. We have been great support for Bullgaria and buy a lot of products from them. If Ceku is not released then I will start by boycoting Bullgarian products and making it harder for their products to reach Italy via our ports
However I have a funny feeling that ceku will be released and maybe an apology given
Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even.
I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.
Interpol warrant is usually not 100% baseless and one needs to do "more" to "achieve" it, than parking in wrong place.
Of course the heavy arm-twisting will begin again and of course Bulgaria will ultimately just deport him back to Pristina instead of Belgrade.
But ultimately he already pays the price: he is not welcome to many places and he can't just go at will like us everywhere and he has his honor violated already four times in the row.
It will stay till he has some "open" issues. It's up to him to "close" that chapter and here only direct talk with Serbia can help; the more grave are his crimes, the more difficult it will be.
This criminal should face justice. There has been to much leniency towards albanian warcriminals and the only way they will face justice is if we take care of it ourselves. Just hope Bulgaria won't succumb to outside pressure.
...Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku.
(Marinels, 24 June 2009 18:09)
This is what commentators should read and learn.
You are very clear with your comment.
"Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia"-this is the reality!
Even if Bulgaria extradites him, serbia will not dare to arrest him, think of the consequenses that serbs will have in Kosovo, don´t think serbia whats to change 50 000 to 1, they are smarter than that, don´t forget, he has Croatians citizinship as well, one of the key commander on Operation Storm
"The person that gave the order for his arrest will be sacked..."
Kosova-USA
You seem to believe that Ceku and albanians in general are some kind of untouchable Godfather(s). Anyone who stands in his(your) way will be sacked or will dissapear. Who do you think you are? If he commited crimes why shouldn't he face "real" justice? Is it just because he is Albanian?
The Serbian Justice Ministry wants Ceku to stand trial for command responsibility for genocide and the murders of 669 Serbs and 18 other non-Albanians in Kosovo in 1999, Malović said.
It would've been more appropriate if you said the truth and gave the exact number of serb paramilitaries killed by Mr. Ceku's Units in Prizren and Rahovec region. That number is much higher than said from this guy.
Mr. Ceku is a true Hero of Kosova and Croatia. I don't think that serbia has a chance to get Ceku moved to serbia because no one believes in serb so-called democracy. serbia is asking for troubles and usually you get what you ask for.
By the way.
Why is he wanted?
Are all Croatian officers wanted by Serbian courts?
What will happen to Serbian officers ionvolved in wars?
What are Serbia courts going to do?
Do they have capacities, credibility,impartiality for such a trial?
So many wishful thinking from serbs here!Why don't you make a list of your wishes and give it to Santa Claus,he may delivers your so called wanted "criminals" for Christmas?If you believe that K-Alb.Freedom fighters will be brought to "Justice" in serbia,then you certainly believe in the legend of Santa Claus!
Une, I think you have it backwards, time for Albanians to face the wrath of all Balkan nations. You have been making trouble for 100's of years, all in the name independence. Well, independence means responsibility, and that includes arresting and putting on trial suspected war criminals. Just because Let's put Ceku on trial, and if he is innocent, he will walk, if not, he can rot. BTW, your Albanian threats of violence are getting old, no one is afraid of you.
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Should be precisely ME who does remind you? :-P
(Ataman, 24 June 2009 15:41)
Ataman this is the first time I fully agree with you and laugh sweetly ;)
It's incredible how 2 million Kosovars do not understand the simple difference between "ç" and "q". So you have Tahçi not Thaqi.
Anyhow with these kind of things Serbia is looking only for trouble and I hope it will get it. If Serbia has any evidence on çeku send them to Hague.
Peter, I have always carefully read you comments here and my conclusion is that the pan Slavic camp (and wider) can not swallow up so easy its defeat in Kosovo. That is especially reflected in some of your comments although you pretend to be unbiased. On one side you often criticize Russians for their past and sometimes the present, on another side when it comes to Kosovo you support Serbs even though the crimes committed by Serbs in the last decades are distinct for all of us in Balkans and Europawide. Let take a look at some paragraphs:
“Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even”.
That was very childish to mention this fact here which is in no way related with the situation we are talking about. I don’t think that there is any event which could trigger a confrontation between armies of Balkan countries even less now since the Bulgaria and Albania are NATO members. It is true that Bulgaria was one of the closest satellites of soviet communists with considerable military force but is didn’t mean that anybody feared it. Such armies had all ex communists countries even Albania. Nowadays the military hardware of both countries are nothing more than obsolete which doesn’t give Bulgaria any advantage as being military leader in Balkans. For you information the Russian army in 1960 couldn’t “annihilate” Albanian army as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia earlier and later or even Yugoslavia until 90’ (with about 1000000 soldiers). So my point is that we didn’t fear at that time so we are less afraid nowadays.
“I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.”
You should be very naive to think that the wrath can be expressed only by military means. There are many issues we could show it toward Bulgarians especially in Albania. I am sure that will not be the case since we all know the end of this adventure taken by any irresponsible Bulgarian politician. Both countries have had very good relations in the past and the presence so I don’t see any reason to worsen them by Bulgarian side. We have contributed to peace and stability in Balkans for years. We didn’t have many military capabilities in 1999 but we triggered NATO for the first time to bomb your brothers. The same took place in Macedonia with the implementation of Ohrid agreement. Moreover when the Interpol warrant is not valid in France it can not be in Bulgaria otherwise. Let me remind you that only 2 years ago the French presidents made possible the release of six Bulgarians in Libya sentenced with death by Gaddafi.
Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku.
If the Bulgarians give in to US and British pressure it will set back the Bulgarian relations with Serbia a long long way and the Bulgarians could forget about future trade with Serbia not least the Summer holiday tourism by Serbia's citizens. Bulgaria of course is going to try to extort some sort of favor or money for Ceku's release. I just hope Obama will do the right thing and not get involved this time otherwise Obama will be seen as a joke much like Bush was, not to mention how much damage this will do to the creditability of Interpol. Furthermore if this monster is released then I think there will be ZERO chance that Mladic will ever be arrested, at least by the Serbians. Who knows maybe we will all be surprised in the extradition to Serbia will happen.
Bulgaria had one of the strongest armies for its size in the Warsaw Pact, they would annihilate Albania's "army" in a matter of weeks, if not days, even.
I don't think anyone in the Balkans should be scared of "wrath of Albanians", except for maybe Montenegro.
Peter Sudyka, 24 June
If you talk about the past Albania during the Hoxha regime didn't have an Army but was an Army everyone was trained to fight even the youngest people. So to annihilate an entire country is not that easy, especially when everyone was ready to die and was prepared for that. If you see the current situation in this part of the balkan except Greece, no one have an army that can be taken in consideration. The last thing; Albania and albanians have excellent relations with Montemegro and Bulgaria.
It must be frustrated for serbia to not have a chance to get their hands on Mr.Ceku.
(Demi, 24 June 2009 10:24)
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Frustrating for Serbia? Now I would say much more frustrating for Ceku who gets arrested everywhere he goes and for this backers, who have to come out of rest with fractured bones to save this terrorist.
I hate to see any Albanian in front of a Serbian court, and if there was any other way at all to solve the problem I'd prefer it, but of all the criminals who poison Kosova's society Ceku is one of the very worst. I hope he rots in jail, even if it is a Serbian jail.
Hypothetically, if Ceku does get extradited to Serbia, what are the Albanians going to do about it?
(Zoran, 24 June 2009 16:20)
I don't think anything will happen at least not in a short term. This will be a technical win for Serbia, let it have it, but without a doubt it will push K-Alb even further from Serbia, and re-enforce their belief that Independence is the only way out.
If Serbia has any valid claims against Ceku, they can go to Hague. Why don't they do that? Go to Hague and avoid regional conflict. Is Serbian justice superior by any standard, especially towards albanians?
Kosovo might retaliate by issuing arrest warrants for Serb officials, and it will arrest them as they try to go over the border. What is Serbia going to do about it?
So as you can see, no one wins and this is a very unwise move from Serbia, trying to control K-Alb by force and intimidation. Serbia has tried to do this for decades and it has only worked against them and the peace in the Balkans. Have you not learned anything from history?
In the end this only fuels the resolve of the K-Alb to never ever live under a Serbian state again. Not sure what is Serbia's gain out of this? Ceku will become a greater hero in Kosovo, situation will be more tense in the region, retaliation, hate and conflict will gain more ground. If you are happy with this, God help you.
I'm always wondering why Albanians here condemn acts like that, instead of seeing it as a chance for cleaning their society from alleged criminal elements. Own state or not, I think they deserve a better government, without socalled "heroes" like those...
I wouldn't be surprised that this was all orchestrated by Pristina. Ceku has been stepping on some toes there, and this is the perfect way to be rid of him. Just like with organ harvesting, the Albanains are very creative with their solutions.
its about time to put this snake behind bars ,do the right thing bulgaria .
(zoki, 24 June 2009 13:10)
I would say, this is the "feathered" part of Quetzalcoatl, the Aztec "feathered serpent" deity devouring human organs. The "serpent" part is not him.
I.e. the nickname of Ceku is "pigeon", not "snake".
I have little hope he will be behind the bars soon tough - if still, maybe we can thank God (not Quetzal!) that HRC undergoes a little surgery at this moment... Anyway, it's amusing to see, what happens and I am crossing my fingers.
This guy obviously has serious questions to answer so let him face justice and we'll see how the evidence stacks up. Yes, he should be extradited to Serbia. Meanwhile I wish the Albanian posters would acknowledge that there were many thugs and murderers in the ranks of the KLA.
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
Should be precisely ME who does remind you? :-P
(Ataman, 24 June 2009 15:41)
I am very suprised at you Ataman, as much as I respect your coments despite the differences of opinion.
I must tell you that in Albanian language is written THAQI, with Q but Internationals can write it anyway they like. In Albaninan vocabulary there is a Q and in English after Q must be a U, but not in Albanian language. English alphabet is made of 26 and Albanian 36.
By the way my origin is from KosovA, but I grew up in USA and hold duel citizenship.
Have a good one body.
Why is he only being charged for his crimes in 1999? He also needs to be charged for his role in the ethnic cleansing of Croatia of all non-Croats.
Why is Solomon Pasi hanging out with this gangster? Oh that's right, because he was an enthusiastic supporter of the KLA-NATO aggression against Serbs and Roma in 1999.
If only Thaci, Haradinaj and the rest of the Serb killing gangsters in Prishtina could be arrested too.
Extradite him Bulgaria! Stop catering to NATO's every whim and be the Balkan brother you used to be.
This is just some childish games by Serbia so they can say they did somthing hehe.-
(Demi, 24 June 2009 14:43)
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Hypothetically, if Ceku does get extradited to Serbia, what are the Albanians going to do about it?
Why are all the Ceku defenders here so certain that he is innocent of these crimes? Just because that's what you believe, or do any of you have proof of his innocence to these charges? Serbia obviously has proof that he is guilty - wouldn't they look bad it they didn't? I just hope the US/EU will keep their dirty hands out of this.
A lot of interesting things are happening since Biden came to town, BG. Could this be a swap, Mladic for Ceku? The US could keep their hands clean, and the short-lived Albanian ire would be directed towards the Bulgaria, for some perks from the West, of course. Interesting events, indeed.
One mans hero is anothers criminal. The law of murder however, is clearly defined and whether your a Serb or Albanian or Martian, if you kill, you must face the consequences and responsibilities of these actions, period. Agim Ceku's complicity in hundreds of killings is undeniable. Therefore, no Albanian should be surprised if he is ultimately jailed for his past. Jesus never killed anyone, quite the opposite, Mohammed never killed anyone either and they would never defend anyone like Ceku!
You got you wires mixed, casue Snake is the actuall Kosovo PM and that is Mr. Thaqi THE famous Snake.
(Kosova-USA, 24 June 2009 13:49)
Hihihi, now you revealed, you are from "Kosova" (otherwise I wouldn't guess!) because it's "Thaci" official language, not "Thaqi" as Kosovars like to write in their dialect.
exclusive pics from bulgaria guys http://www.xenini.com/Agim-Ceku-lidhur.jpg
so cmon albanians show sportsmanship. the guy has warcrimes tails dragging after him not only in kosovo but croatia. our warrant is doing things to him i'm sure they wouldnt let me say in my comment so lets just leave it at that. but you know what it is. and you know sooner or later he will face fine serbian justice and finer still jails.
I would love more than anything to see this thug go to jail in Serbia. However, I'm sure that Wesley Clark, Vice President Joe Biden, Richard Holbrooke, and other Kosovo supporters are hot on this issue already making phone calls with false promises to the Bulgarians if Bulgaria releases Ceku. Franky, I don't think the Bulgarians have the stuff to send Ceku to Serbia. I believe I'll first see a green alien creature walk down 16th street toward the White House hand in hand with Santa Clause before Ceku is in Serbia. However, one can dream...
Of course under some pressure this thug will be realesed.No problem.People are not stupid.This kind of pressure will only make patriotic Ataka party more popular in Bulgaria as the inhabitants will be more and more fed up with the poodles of Washington and Brussels .Once they are in power recognition of UDI will be withdrawn.
I will never forget that beutiful text about freedom painted on the wall of Vasil Levski National Stadium in Sofia.
I respectfully ask any Albanian posters to tell me is there any albanian newspaper or TV web-site with english translation and open forum,like B-92,so I can post comments on current state of world and local affairs.Thank you!
If Ceku is sent to Serbia to stand trial in a Serbian court, I will feel very sorry for any Serb living in Kosova.
Remember what happened in March 2004.
(Michael John, 25 June 2009 06:42)
If that is not incitement to violence, I dont know what is.
I'm sure if Serbia started a pogrom against the Belgrade & Presevo Albanians, the irridentist Albanian mob would be up in arms.
Where is our self righteous 'defender' of ethnic tolerance and peace, Mr Roberto Russ from 'frisco'. Oh I forgot its Serbs here so they do not appear on his moral radar.
He'll be released tomorrow, or else.
(Clinton W., 25 June 2009 00:33)
Or else what? What is thath you are going to do? Replace him in jail and serve sentence instead of him. Threats like this shouldn't scare anyone, Agim Ceku is a war criminal. He is responsible for massacres in Medak (800 civilians killed) and for massacres in Kosovo&Metohija. People like him should hope only worst because thats exactly what they deserve.
Nothing will come out of his arrest and he will be released soon.
(nikshala, 24 June 2009 14:38)
Here you are probably right. But even if not, he obviously has some VIP connections in Serbia.
Not sure how it is in your area (actually, I am pretty sure!) - but if you are married into "right" place, you will get only a little slap on your hand anyway.
I knew that his wife is Serb, but I did not know till now his wife ha such high connections. If that's the case, he is essentially untouchable even in Serbia Proper...
Thanks to an other poster regarding the information about Ponos link. I am surprised... but at the same time maybe not that much.
Mr. Çeku will be released today, he will never face Serbian jurisdiction.
(visar, 24 June 2009 10:27)
Never say never...let me tell you, it's best to free your mind so you can sleep at night as opposed to acting & portraying the "untouchable" diplomat that your thachi set you up to be....AGIM.
Denis wrote,
I don't think anything will happen at least not in a short term. This will be a technical win for Serbia, let it have it, but without a doubt it will push K-Alb even further from Serbia, and re-enforce their belief that Independence is the only way out.
K-Albanians could not be any further from Serbia now. You keep saying this for anything Serbia does. Stop making excuses for trying to break away. You have been dreaming of this for a century now.
Then you say,
If Serbia has any valid claims against Ceku, they can go to Hague. Why don't they do that? Go to Hague and avoid regional conflict. Is Serbian justice superior by any standard, especially towards albanians?
Why send hi to Hague? So that he can be set free like Haradinaj by that corrupt court.
And yes, Serbian justice is superior, to yours anyway. Serbia has already tried and convicted their own for crimes. Has "Kosova"?
No Judas, there isn't. K_Albanians in Pristina practice media censorship, so there is no chance of anything anti-government said. This is the newest democracy in the Balkans.
If Ceku is sent to Serbia to stand trial in a Serbian court, I will feel very sorry for any Serb living in Kosova.
Remember what happened in March 2004.
(Michael John, 25 June 2009 06:42)
Wow, you cannot be any more plain than this.
So, if Serbia dares to put an Albanian criminal on trial you are going to take your revenge on every innocent Serb in Kosovo. Do you honstly belive that you would get away with it again?
Nobody in the world would blame Serbia for rolling their tanks in again.
What would you say if I said that if Ceku is released from Bulgaria every Albanian in Serbia will feel the wrath of Serbian people? How would you react to something like this?
Why are all the Ceku defenders here so certain that he is innocent of these crimes?
(Kalifornia, 24 June 2009 17:59)
Very-very good question. Perhaps because of that religion they call "Albanism"? It seems, according that religion, everything Albanian is blindly to believe, blindly to follow. I think, if they would know that "less is more" they would have much more sympathizers. With that attitude most who is supporting them are certain government circles in certain countries - out of selfish interest.
The answer is given by the Bulgarian Foreign Minister, not leaving besides the involvement of France, USA and Great Britain to release him.
This is what Bulgarian FM says:“I expect him to be released. Obviously legal frameworks have to be fulfilled, and our country obviously cannot prejudge the decision, but it’s possible... it’s possible that he could be released on the basis that Bulgaria has recognized Kosovo,“ said Klyuchkov.
When you say "wrath", one only thinks of a coersive threat, I think you should have chosen a better word, because that's how it came across in your statement.
Marinels
"Peter, I have always carefully read you comments here and my conclusion is that the pan Slavic camp (and wider) can not swallow up so easy its defeat in Kosovo."
It's not a defeat, until the whole of the international community recognizes Kosovo's independence, like every other independent state out there is. It's not over yet, and won't be until there is some kind of mutual agreement, that is the reality on the ground. There is still international law and territorial integrity, things that has kept Europe away from another world war. Why do I say this? Because as a Pole, I know what problems land can cause between two nations.
"That is especially reflected in some of your comments although you pretend to be unbiased."
I really do try to be unbiased, but I do tend to lean towards Serbia's arguement, because I do think that they are trying to redeem themselves and are still being punished for a regime long-time gone, and tend to find hypocrisy from the Albanian side when they are trying to claim what a model multi-ethnic state Kosovo is, but they cannot seem to see themselves living in a multi-ethnic state under Serbia. That's what I have noticed over time, hence me leaning.
"On one side you often criticize Russians for their past and sometimes the present, on another side when it comes to Kosovo you support Serbs even though the crimes committed by Serbs in the last decades are distinct for all of us in Balkans and Europawide."
I fail to see what those two things have to do with each other. Why, if I lean towards Serbia's argument, do I by default have to side with Russia? The two have nothing to do with each other when it comes to my viewpoints. I do not support Serbian crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo at all, they are wrong, just like any war crimes, but to punish the current state of Serbia for the crimes of another regime a decade back, is not fair.
And one thing, the Russian crimes (OK, to be fair, Soviet crimes, though it's still the same capital city) of the past against the Polish people are considerably harsher than any Serbian crimes during the Yugoslav Wars in terms of sheer numbers of victims, so naturally I am going to criticize Russia for the past (for which they have still not apologized at all, hence me criticizing the present Russian government).
"That was very childish to mention this fact here which is in no way related with the situation we are talking about. I don’t think that there is any event which could trigger a confrontation between armies of Balkan countries even less now since the Bulgaria and Albania are NATO members. It is true that Bulgaria was one of the closest satellites of soviet communists with considerable military force but is didn’t mean that anybody feared it. Such armies had all ex communists countries even Albania. Nowadays the military hardware of both countries are nothing more than obsolete which doesn’t give Bulgaria any advantage as being military leader in Balkans. For you information the Russian army in 1960 couldn’t “annihilate” Albanian army as they did in Hungary and Czechoslovakia earlier and later or even Yugoslavia until 90’ (with about 1000000 soldiers). So my point is that we didn’t fear at that time so we are less afraid nowadays."
I think it was childish that "Albanian wrath" towards Bulgaria was mentioned over detaining some politician. Naturally Albania and Bulgaria will not go to war with each other, I think it is more the Albanian community threatening to dismember Macedonia and such that seem to be implying it. I am a realist. The army of Bulgaria, however, is far better equipped than Albania's in terms of air force and armored forces, but whatever, it's not key to this article anyway.
"You should be very naive to think that the wrath can be expressed only by military means. There are many issues we could show it toward Bulgarians especially in Albania. I am sure that will not be the case since we all know the end of this adventure taken by any irresponsible Bulgarian politician. Both countries have had very good relations in the past and the presence so I don’t see any reason to worsen them by Bulgarian side. We have contributed to peace and stability in Balkans for years. We didn’t have many military capabilities in 1999 but we triggered NATO for the first time to bomb your brothers. The same took place in Macedonia with the implementation of Ohrid agreement. Moreover when the Interpol warrant is not valid in France it can not be in Bulgaria otherwise. Let me remind you that only 2 years ago the French presidents made possible the release of six Bulgarians in Libya sentenced with death by Gaddafi."
Well, other than force, I fail to see what wrath Albania can possibly show Bulgaria (not even that), given that Albania has no economic clout, no major political presence in the Balkans, what are you talking about then?
Albanians didn't trigger anyone in NATO, the US simply ignored a UNSC decision and went into Kosovo with their army on the grounds of civilian massacres being committed by Yugoslav forces and paramilitaries, so this is also not an example of wrath.
And how is Ohrid wrath?
And yes, Poles do consider Serbs as a brethren, not only because they are fellow Slavs and Christians, but also because we've have had a very hard past with foreign occupiers and we've both lost many people, so it should not be strange to you.
"Definitely A Ceku is a hero more than Serbian generals sentenced in Hague or probably some of them hiding in Russia. The only final destination for your brave generals is Hague and the return ticket after 20 years. As we have seen until now that is not the case with A Ceku."
They are not my generals (there were no Polish generals in Kosovo, except under KFOR), I don't know why you think I support them, as long as every war criminal, regardless of nationality is tried (given a fair trial, of course), it makes no difference to me.
I do think, however, that one nation's criminal is another man's hero, so how do you objectively prove that Ceku is not responsible for any war crimes? Storm?
The One
It was not only Albania, I think it was every Warsaw Pact country. My parents also were taught to fire a gun in school, but this has nothing to do with the article anyway, I am going to stop writing now.
Nelli_Canada!!! I'm a Canadian too...i don't know if you're a true one ,but here even the primeminister face justice. So if you beloved criminal is a hero it doesn't mean he has immunity(US-EU).Justice for all- all the criminals in jail!
Of course under some pressure this thug will be realesed.No problem.People are not stupid.This kind of pressure will only make patriotic Ataka party more popular in Bulgaria
(szemi, 24 June 2009 23:51)
Are you sure that "Ataka" is... PATRIOTIC? It looks like mirror image of "Jobbik"... And what is the difference between Balli Kombëtar and Jobbik and Ataka? For me just the language, they paint the same picture on the wall...
And it it is very good that Serbia cannot get their hands on Mr.Ceku because if they did there would be trouble for regional stability. Ceku is and Kosovar hero and not a criminal. Serbia ios just frustrated over Kosovo independence and this is the reaction.
(Demi, 24 June 2009 10:24)
Sure, in Kosovo all criminals are heroes and all criminals are heroes. Just look at all the wonderful heroes in the local kosovo government.
Why do you think of military threats. I am talking about Ballkans and Albanian-Bullgarina relations. We have been great support for Bullgaria and buy a lot of products from them. If Ceku is not released then I will start by boycoting Bullgarian products and making it harder for their products to reach Italy via our ports
However I have a funny feeling that ceku will be released and maybe an apology given
(UNE, 24 June 2009 16:06)
Do you mean like the effective boycott of all Serbian products by Kosovo Albanians? Oh, wait, they cannot even do that because all the stores here sell every kind of Serbian product imaginable. So much for the "wrath" of the ethnic Albanian boycott. What a joke.
Serbs and Bulgarians may be very close in language and religion, but that closeness made them bitter rivals since the Middle Ages. If the Bulgarians deport Ceku to Serbia that would change nothing. Serbs will yell huray.. for few days, but it is unlikely the two countries would ever become close allies. Ataka is hardly a patriotic ogranization. Sure it is anti-Western, but Bulgaria managed ot jump the hurdle and join NATO and EU where it hardly belongs, being the poores in the EU family. But within a generation it will bland in prefectly, because Bulgarians are generaly conformists, not rebels. So why should Bulgaria risk the wrath of its allies for the unlikely gratitude of an unlikely friend?
I think you again make the same mistake as when you put Iran and Saudi Arabia in one camp(it is such a nonsense as putting serbs and albans in one camp).ATAKA is by no means a mirror version of Jobbik.Radical does not automaticly mean Nazi as some pseudoliberal media organs would like to suggest.In fact as opposed to jobbik ATAKA is anti-nazi and very chritical of those who made bulgaria side with germans during world wars.See their main opponents on bulgarian political scene:http://www.ataka.bg/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=31 And while for the followers of Balli Kombëtar and Jobbik Hitler is an icon for Ataka supporters he is just the opposite.And I would like to remind you that during WW2 the most radical elements of Serb and Polish society were the members of antihitlerist resistance.
Indeed some points seem populist and unrealistic mainly those related to economy.AS to some other points they are rather self-defensive and given how much bulgarians suffered under islamoimperialism for centuries I can understand them .
No one was interested in the purpose of Ceku's visit - to discuss Kosova's future entry into NATO? I thought they would have to wait much longer before even starting to think about this. It's probably the best way of ensuring stability in the region, though.
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