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Wednesday, 17.06.2009.

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First witness takes stand in Hartmann trial

The first defense witness in the trial of Florence Hartmann at the Hague Tribunal took the stand yesterday.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Aleks

pre 14 godina

Let's get this right. The ICTY is hiding documents that prove Belgrade was behind the massacre at srebrenica of prisoners of war (soldiers of the ArBiH)?

So the ICTY is corrupt?

Isn't this what the Serbs have been saying for years?

Or, do those who support legal and historical expert 'Hartmann' believe that out of the whole ICTY, Hartmann is the only one who is not corrupt and there is a conspiracy by the ICTY, its founders and funders to protect Belgrade from Bosnia's ridiculous genocide suit, which they thought they could used as a milch cow and live of reparations rather than sort out their own economy and corruption?

Then again, Hartmann IS the ICTY. A law unto herself. If she doesn't like something, she just changes it as she sees fit and for her own purpose. What a crusader!

And some wonder why journalists are held in such low esteem at the bottom of the list along with politicians and...

InvisibleTheMan

pre 14 godina

Florence Hartmann is the only trusable person from the ICTY Prosecutors office so far. She had the BRAVERY to speak openly about qustionable business conducted by the ICTY.
It is in the interest of the entire free world - that Florence Hartmann continue disclosing her knowledge from her attendance at meetings where THE DEFINITION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND JUSTICE was dominated by people representing very few governments in the west.
I finally wish a sponsor will join the support of Florence Hartmann and pay the translation into English of ALL her written documents and books.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Sebastian

Being brave and being pushy,arrogant and greedy are two completely different categories.Hartman and Kandic fall in the latter similarly to Misha Sakashvilli another Soros backed "ultrademocrat".

roberto

pre 14 godina

Natasa Kandic is a brave woman who has faced intimidation and the threat of violence against her person on a regular basis.

Florence Hartmann will be cleared of these allegations.

Sad, bitter comments which attempt to belittle the work of these brave women say more about the poster than anything else.
(Sebastian, 17 June 2009 18:49)

thank you, sebastian, i couldn't agree more. esp.ly about natasa kandic, who has more courage in her little finger than all of the current so-called leaders over there, in their entire beings.

as for this case, no one is talking about the "confidential" files themselves. this is the ongoing problem, that we deal in superficials, and not in the (disturbing)substance.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

kate

pre 14 godina

Sebastian - You are clearly stuck in the populist rut or have a vested interest.

I am the first to say that the truth of crimes such as Srebrenica and others against Serbians, Muslims, Croatians or whoever should be exposed and answered for.

But Natasha Kandic took the unsuspecting grief strick mothers of Srebrenica to Belgrade and showed them a film of their sons being murdered.

She then invited the press to ambush them outside the viewing to see their 'raw' reaction.

She also slapped an elderly refugee around the face which was witnessed by many people.

I know people in legal circles who personally know her and even those who quite like her admit that she is an arrogant self-seeking publicist.

As for Hartman, she worked for the court and then tried to make money and gain notoriety by publishing secret documents. Again this was a totally self-seeking act.

If it had not been, then why is her 'disclosure' so one-sided?

You clearly know nothing about the behind the scenes events, and you certainly are in no position to draw conclusions about me.

Sebastian

pre 14 godina

Natasa Kandic is a brave woman who has faced intimidation and the threat of violence against her person on a regular basis.

Florence Hartmann will be cleared of these allegations.

Sad, bitter comments which attempt to belittle the work of these brave women say more about the poster than anything else.

kate

pre 14 godina

Of course she didn't have the right to disclose the information. They were court documents and subject to a court agreement.

Strange how she and her ilk never felt compelled to uncover information about the organ trading documents or the documents about the agreement made with Karadjic.

Both she and Kandic are just self-seeking publicists.

kate

pre 14 godina

Of course she didn't have the right to disclose the information. They were court documents and subject to a court agreement.

Strange how she and her ilk never felt compelled to uncover information about the organ trading documents or the documents about the agreement made with Karadjic.

Both she and Kandic are just self-seeking publicists.

kate

pre 14 godina

Sebastian - You are clearly stuck in the populist rut or have a vested interest.

I am the first to say that the truth of crimes such as Srebrenica and others against Serbians, Muslims, Croatians or whoever should be exposed and answered for.

But Natasha Kandic took the unsuspecting grief strick mothers of Srebrenica to Belgrade and showed them a film of their sons being murdered.

She then invited the press to ambush them outside the viewing to see their 'raw' reaction.

She also slapped an elderly refugee around the face which was witnessed by many people.

I know people in legal circles who personally know her and even those who quite like her admit that she is an arrogant self-seeking publicist.

As for Hartman, she worked for the court and then tried to make money and gain notoriety by publishing secret documents. Again this was a totally self-seeking act.

If it had not been, then why is her 'disclosure' so one-sided?

You clearly know nothing about the behind the scenes events, and you certainly are in no position to draw conclusions about me.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Sebastian

Being brave and being pushy,arrogant and greedy are two completely different categories.Hartman and Kandic fall in the latter similarly to Misha Sakashvilli another Soros backed "ultrademocrat".

Sebastian

pre 14 godina

Natasa Kandic is a brave woman who has faced intimidation and the threat of violence against her person on a regular basis.

Florence Hartmann will be cleared of these allegations.

Sad, bitter comments which attempt to belittle the work of these brave women say more about the poster than anything else.

roberto

pre 14 godina

Natasa Kandic is a brave woman who has faced intimidation and the threat of violence against her person on a regular basis.

Florence Hartmann will be cleared of these allegations.

Sad, bitter comments which attempt to belittle the work of these brave women say more about the poster than anything else.
(Sebastian, 17 June 2009 18:49)

thank you, sebastian, i couldn't agree more. esp.ly about natasa kandic, who has more courage in her little finger than all of the current so-called leaders over there, in their entire beings.

as for this case, no one is talking about the "confidential" files themselves. this is the ongoing problem, that we deal in superficials, and not in the (disturbing)substance.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

Aleks

pre 14 godina

Let's get this right. The ICTY is hiding documents that prove Belgrade was behind the massacre at srebrenica of prisoners of war (soldiers of the ArBiH)?

So the ICTY is corrupt?

Isn't this what the Serbs have been saying for years?

Or, do those who support legal and historical expert 'Hartmann' believe that out of the whole ICTY, Hartmann is the only one who is not corrupt and there is a conspiracy by the ICTY, its founders and funders to protect Belgrade from Bosnia's ridiculous genocide suit, which they thought they could used as a milch cow and live of reparations rather than sort out their own economy and corruption?

Then again, Hartmann IS the ICTY. A law unto herself. If she doesn't like something, she just changes it as she sees fit and for her own purpose. What a crusader!

And some wonder why journalists are held in such low esteem at the bottom of the list along with politicians and...

InvisibleTheMan

pre 14 godina

Florence Hartmann is the only trusable person from the ICTY Prosecutors office so far. She had the BRAVERY to speak openly about qustionable business conducted by the ICTY.
It is in the interest of the entire free world - that Florence Hartmann continue disclosing her knowledge from her attendance at meetings where THE DEFINITION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND JUSTICE was dominated by people representing very few governments in the west.
I finally wish a sponsor will join the support of Florence Hartmann and pay the translation into English of ALL her written documents and books.

Sebastian

pre 14 godina

Natasa Kandic is a brave woman who has faced intimidation and the threat of violence against her person on a regular basis.

Florence Hartmann will be cleared of these allegations.

Sad, bitter comments which attempt to belittle the work of these brave women say more about the poster than anything else.

roberto

pre 14 godina

Natasa Kandic is a brave woman who has faced intimidation and the threat of violence against her person on a regular basis.

Florence Hartmann will be cleared of these allegations.

Sad, bitter comments which attempt to belittle the work of these brave women say more about the poster than anything else.
(Sebastian, 17 June 2009 18:49)

thank you, sebastian, i couldn't agree more. esp.ly about natasa kandic, who has more courage in her little finger than all of the current so-called leaders over there, in their entire beings.

as for this case, no one is talking about the "confidential" files themselves. this is the ongoing problem, that we deal in superficials, and not in the (disturbing)substance.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

szemi

pre 14 godina

Sebastian

Being brave and being pushy,arrogant and greedy are two completely different categories.Hartman and Kandic fall in the latter similarly to Misha Sakashvilli another Soros backed "ultrademocrat".

InvisibleTheMan

pre 14 godina

Florence Hartmann is the only trusable person from the ICTY Prosecutors office so far. She had the BRAVERY to speak openly about qustionable business conducted by the ICTY.
It is in the interest of the entire free world - that Florence Hartmann continue disclosing her knowledge from her attendance at meetings where THE DEFINITION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND JUSTICE was dominated by people representing very few governments in the west.
I finally wish a sponsor will join the support of Florence Hartmann and pay the translation into English of ALL her written documents and books.

kate

pre 14 godina

Of course she didn't have the right to disclose the information. They were court documents and subject to a court agreement.

Strange how she and her ilk never felt compelled to uncover information about the organ trading documents or the documents about the agreement made with Karadjic.

Both she and Kandic are just self-seeking publicists.

kate

pre 14 godina

Sebastian - You are clearly stuck in the populist rut or have a vested interest.

I am the first to say that the truth of crimes such as Srebrenica and others against Serbians, Muslims, Croatians or whoever should be exposed and answered for.

But Natasha Kandic took the unsuspecting grief strick mothers of Srebrenica to Belgrade and showed them a film of their sons being murdered.

She then invited the press to ambush them outside the viewing to see their 'raw' reaction.

She also slapped an elderly refugee around the face which was witnessed by many people.

I know people in legal circles who personally know her and even those who quite like her admit that she is an arrogant self-seeking publicist.

As for Hartman, she worked for the court and then tried to make money and gain notoriety by publishing secret documents. Again this was a totally self-seeking act.

If it had not been, then why is her 'disclosure' so one-sided?

You clearly know nothing about the behind the scenes events, and you certainly are in no position to draw conclusions about me.

Aleks

pre 14 godina

Let's get this right. The ICTY is hiding documents that prove Belgrade was behind the massacre at srebrenica of prisoners of war (soldiers of the ArBiH)?

So the ICTY is corrupt?

Isn't this what the Serbs have been saying for years?

Or, do those who support legal and historical expert 'Hartmann' believe that out of the whole ICTY, Hartmann is the only one who is not corrupt and there is a conspiracy by the ICTY, its founders and funders to protect Belgrade from Bosnia's ridiculous genocide suit, which they thought they could used as a milch cow and live of reparations rather than sort out their own economy and corruption?

Then again, Hartmann IS the ICTY. A law unto herself. If she doesn't like something, she just changes it as she sees fit and for her own purpose. What a crusader!

And some wonder why journalists are held in such low esteem at the bottom of the list along with politicians and...