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Saturday, 13.06.2009.

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Ahmadinejad wins landslide victory in Iran

Hardline incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been declared the winner of Iran's presidential election, prompting street protests by the opposition.

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Ataman

pre 14 godina

Congratulations to Mr.Ahmadinejad!
I hope the Free Trade agreement between Iran and Serbia will kick in soon and Iran will get the bomb.
(CG, 13 June 2009 18:44)

Sad reality: Iran probably ALREADY HAS it. No, I hope differently. I hope, SERBIA will get that BIG BOMB. There is no bomb for Serbia and for Israel which is not BIG ENOUGH.

You know, a big enough bomb is the best "reality on the ground". These days the reality looks better if you have some megatonns.

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Iran is a crucial Russian and Serbian ally
(CG, 13 June 2009 18:44)

Iran is in the fact very-very anti-Russian at heart. As one Russian politician did say - literally - and I did watch it on TV:

"Боже упаси нас от таких друзей"

Matthew

pre 14 godina

“Nothing new, few years ago Americans, too, voted for a criminal into the highest office - twice. (Ataman, 14 June 2009 23:26)”

Actually Bush LOST the first election, ha ha.

If you look at Bush’s seizure of the media and comments like those who don’t support the war are aiding and abetting the terrorists, it becomes very clear that freedom of speech and democracy took a big hit in the Bush years.

I agree with Ataman, I don’t think Iran has a high level of democracy, however, I’m not too impressed with American democracy and I live here. Personally I think a two party system is not very democratic, generally we’re voting against the guy we hate more, and I just don’t see a very big difference in the actions of the two parties, they are mostly the same really.

I love Obama and I think his heart is in the right place, but so far he’s been completely powerless to make any meaningful changes. Hopefully he’ll follow in Carter’s footsteps and do great good for the world after his presidency.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Reality check to all (how many times I have to post it again and again?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Griboyedov

Please look at the death circumstances.

Iran is a quasi-democracy and since in this case the vote was for an incumbent PM, that would mean, indeed, they voted democratically.

I am using "quasi" because who can be voted for has to be approved by mullahs.
I am using "democracy" because the vote for AVAILABLE candidates can be regarded as popular vote.

Huge areas of Iran are underdeveloped, the population is backwards-thinking and can become fanatics very easy. See the case with Griboyedov.

Nothing new, few years ago Americans, too, voted for a criminal into the highest office - twice.

Now Iranians turn to vote a maniac second time into the highest office. If there is afterlife, he will meet with Bush in the hot place... despite both being elected democratically. Very sad, we can't do anything about it, Iran needs a lot of time to become a better place.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

Reality Check Roberto:

Optor came out in large numbers to protest the NATO bombing, so don’t act like your views are in any way similar to theirs. As a supporter of Optor with many friends in that movement, I take offense at you, of all people, invoking their name constantly and the fact you claimed to have represented their interests in the American media. I actually lived in Belgrade around that time.

It seems to me you only support democracy when people who support your view of the world win.

I don’t like Milosevic either, but good or bad, a majority of the Serbian people have similar views to his. In the last election the only reason Tadic and the Pro-West side held onto power was because he made a “deal with the devil” in the form of a coalition with Milosevic’s party. The Russian people, in Russia and everywhere else they live, uniformly love Putin, yet I’m certain you’d say that’s undemocratic too.

I’m sick and tired of countries being accused of being anti-Democratic if they don’t vote in Pro-West parties.

What’s your stance on the Hamas victory in Palestine? I don’t here you complaining how un-Democratic it was to cut off ties with the Palestinian government when the people there democratically elected Hamas.

I may not agree with Hamas, Milosevic or Ahmadinejad but the people in those countries have a right to vote for whomever they choose, it should not be conditioned on whether they are on the “approved” list by Western countries.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Roberto
Of course it was not a problem when the best student of your beloved George Soros got 90 and so percent after that manipulated revolution of faded roses.Both Ahmadinejad
and Milosevic got much lower percentage .So before making fuss do think twice(this is of course not to characteristic to extreme liberals so I do not expect you to accept my advise.) As to word "freedom" you extreme liberals succesfully managed to devalue the meaning of this anyway beautiful word.

roberto

pre 14 godina

>> Just like Milosevic.
Every time a landslide victory.
(Kosova-USA, 13 June 2009 12:16)


yes, it is always the same -- they win and win and win, usually by something like 105% of the vote. and it is always so "democratic", so "the voice of the people."

meanwhile the people are out on the streets, demonstrating, rioting, trying to build a real voice for themselves. being beaten, etc. we've seen it all before: here, during the (vietnam) war, all thru the former yugoslavia. beaten by those nice, "democratic" police.

anyway we have to support freedom, democracy and human rights, also in iran, it has been an exciting and very dynamic time there, and people, esp young people, are just not eager to allow all the ugly little repressive measures back into their lives. the return of those nice morality squads...

i said it about that evil milosevic, many times, and now i say it to that wretched ahmadinejad: the day of reckoning for you too will come, and we can only pray sooner than later.

Otpor! resist! that is its true meaning.

roberto
frisco

CG

pre 14 godina

Congratulations to Mr.Ahmadinejad!
I hope the Free Trade agreement between Iran and Serbia will kick in soon and Iran will get the bomb.
Iran is a crucial Russian and Serbian ally,we should make a strategic alliance with Iran,no matter who forms the government or who is in the opposition.
Entry in the SCO pact would also be very diserable...

good afternoon

pre 14 godina

Like him or not, Serbia was a parliamentary democracy during the Milosevic era.
As for Ahmadinejad, the Iranian people voted overwhelmingly in his favour so they must think that he is doing a good job. Given the vehement anti-Iranian rhetoric coming from US-UK-Israeli media their tacit support for "reformer" Mousavi was, rightly or wrongly, treated with suspicion.

good afternoon

pre 14 godina

Like him or not, Serbia was a parliamentary democracy during the Milosevic era.
As for Ahmadinejad, the Iranian people voted overwhelmingly in his favour so they must think that he is doing a good job. Given the vehement anti-Iranian rhetoric coming from US-UK-Israeli media their tacit support for "reformer" Mousavi was, rightly or wrongly, treated with suspicion.

CG

pre 14 godina

Congratulations to Mr.Ahmadinejad!
I hope the Free Trade agreement between Iran and Serbia will kick in soon and Iran will get the bomb.
Iran is a crucial Russian and Serbian ally,we should make a strategic alliance with Iran,no matter who forms the government or who is in the opposition.
Entry in the SCO pact would also be very diserable...

szemi

pre 14 godina

Roberto
Of course it was not a problem when the best student of your beloved George Soros got 90 and so percent after that manipulated revolution of faded roses.Both Ahmadinejad
and Milosevic got much lower percentage .So before making fuss do think twice(this is of course not to characteristic to extreme liberals so I do not expect you to accept my advise.) As to word "freedom" you extreme liberals succesfully managed to devalue the meaning of this anyway beautiful word.

roberto

pre 14 godina

>> Just like Milosevic.
Every time a landslide victory.
(Kosova-USA, 13 June 2009 12:16)


yes, it is always the same -- they win and win and win, usually by something like 105% of the vote. and it is always so "democratic", so "the voice of the people."

meanwhile the people are out on the streets, demonstrating, rioting, trying to build a real voice for themselves. being beaten, etc. we've seen it all before: here, during the (vietnam) war, all thru the former yugoslavia. beaten by those nice, "democratic" police.

anyway we have to support freedom, democracy and human rights, also in iran, it has been an exciting and very dynamic time there, and people, esp young people, are just not eager to allow all the ugly little repressive measures back into their lives. the return of those nice morality squads...

i said it about that evil milosevic, many times, and now i say it to that wretched ahmadinejad: the day of reckoning for you too will come, and we can only pray sooner than later.

Otpor! resist! that is its true meaning.

roberto
frisco

Matthew

pre 14 godina

Reality Check Roberto:

Optor came out in large numbers to protest the NATO bombing, so don’t act like your views are in any way similar to theirs. As a supporter of Optor with many friends in that movement, I take offense at you, of all people, invoking their name constantly and the fact you claimed to have represented their interests in the American media. I actually lived in Belgrade around that time.

It seems to me you only support democracy when people who support your view of the world win.

I don’t like Milosevic either, but good or bad, a majority of the Serbian people have similar views to his. In the last election the only reason Tadic and the Pro-West side held onto power was because he made a “deal with the devil” in the form of a coalition with Milosevic’s party. The Russian people, in Russia and everywhere else they live, uniformly love Putin, yet I’m certain you’d say that’s undemocratic too.

I’m sick and tired of countries being accused of being anti-Democratic if they don’t vote in Pro-West parties.

What’s your stance on the Hamas victory in Palestine? I don’t here you complaining how un-Democratic it was to cut off ties with the Palestinian government when the people there democratically elected Hamas.

I may not agree with Hamas, Milosevic or Ahmadinejad but the people in those countries have a right to vote for whomever they choose, it should not be conditioned on whether they are on the “approved” list by Western countries.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Reality check to all (how many times I have to post it again and again?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Griboyedov

Please look at the death circumstances.

Iran is a quasi-democracy and since in this case the vote was for an incumbent PM, that would mean, indeed, they voted democratically.

I am using "quasi" because who can be voted for has to be approved by mullahs.
I am using "democracy" because the vote for AVAILABLE candidates can be regarded as popular vote.

Huge areas of Iran are underdeveloped, the population is backwards-thinking and can become fanatics very easy. See the case with Griboyedov.

Nothing new, few years ago Americans, too, voted for a criminal into the highest office - twice.

Now Iranians turn to vote a maniac second time into the highest office. If there is afterlife, he will meet with Bush in the hot place... despite both being elected democratically. Very sad, we can't do anything about it, Iran needs a lot of time to become a better place.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

“Nothing new, few years ago Americans, too, voted for a criminal into the highest office - twice. (Ataman, 14 June 2009 23:26)”

Actually Bush LOST the first election, ha ha.

If you look at Bush’s seizure of the media and comments like those who don’t support the war are aiding and abetting the terrorists, it becomes very clear that freedom of speech and democracy took a big hit in the Bush years.

I agree with Ataman, I don’t think Iran has a high level of democracy, however, I’m not too impressed with American democracy and I live here. Personally I think a two party system is not very democratic, generally we’re voting against the guy we hate more, and I just don’t see a very big difference in the actions of the two parties, they are mostly the same really.

I love Obama and I think his heart is in the right place, but so far he’s been completely powerless to make any meaningful changes. Hopefully he’ll follow in Carter’s footsteps and do great good for the world after his presidency.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Congratulations to Mr.Ahmadinejad!
I hope the Free Trade agreement between Iran and Serbia will kick in soon and Iran will get the bomb.
(CG, 13 June 2009 18:44)

Sad reality: Iran probably ALREADY HAS it. No, I hope differently. I hope, SERBIA will get that BIG BOMB. There is no bomb for Serbia and for Israel which is not BIG ENOUGH.

You know, a big enough bomb is the best "reality on the ground". These days the reality looks better if you have some megatonns.

-------------

Iran is a crucial Russian and Serbian ally
(CG, 13 June 2009 18:44)

Iran is in the fact very-very anti-Russian at heart. As one Russian politician did say - literally - and I did watch it on TV:

"Боже упаси нас от таких друзей"

roberto

pre 14 godina

>> Just like Milosevic.
Every time a landslide victory.
(Kosova-USA, 13 June 2009 12:16)


yes, it is always the same -- they win and win and win, usually by something like 105% of the vote. and it is always so "democratic", so "the voice of the people."

meanwhile the people are out on the streets, demonstrating, rioting, trying to build a real voice for themselves. being beaten, etc. we've seen it all before: here, during the (vietnam) war, all thru the former yugoslavia. beaten by those nice, "democratic" police.

anyway we have to support freedom, democracy and human rights, also in iran, it has been an exciting and very dynamic time there, and people, esp young people, are just not eager to allow all the ugly little repressive measures back into their lives. the return of those nice morality squads...

i said it about that evil milosevic, many times, and now i say it to that wretched ahmadinejad: the day of reckoning for you too will come, and we can only pray sooner than later.

Otpor! resist! that is its true meaning.

roberto
frisco

CG

pre 14 godina

Congratulations to Mr.Ahmadinejad!
I hope the Free Trade agreement between Iran and Serbia will kick in soon and Iran will get the bomb.
Iran is a crucial Russian and Serbian ally,we should make a strategic alliance with Iran,no matter who forms the government or who is in the opposition.
Entry in the SCO pact would also be very diserable...

good afternoon

pre 14 godina

Like him or not, Serbia was a parliamentary democracy during the Milosevic era.
As for Ahmadinejad, the Iranian people voted overwhelmingly in his favour so they must think that he is doing a good job. Given the vehement anti-Iranian rhetoric coming from US-UK-Israeli media their tacit support for "reformer" Mousavi was, rightly or wrongly, treated with suspicion.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Roberto
Of course it was not a problem when the best student of your beloved George Soros got 90 and so percent after that manipulated revolution of faded roses.Both Ahmadinejad
and Milosevic got much lower percentage .So before making fuss do think twice(this is of course not to characteristic to extreme liberals so I do not expect you to accept my advise.) As to word "freedom" you extreme liberals succesfully managed to devalue the meaning of this anyway beautiful word.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

Reality Check Roberto:

Optor came out in large numbers to protest the NATO bombing, so don’t act like your views are in any way similar to theirs. As a supporter of Optor with many friends in that movement, I take offense at you, of all people, invoking their name constantly and the fact you claimed to have represented their interests in the American media. I actually lived in Belgrade around that time.

It seems to me you only support democracy when people who support your view of the world win.

I don’t like Milosevic either, but good or bad, a majority of the Serbian people have similar views to his. In the last election the only reason Tadic and the Pro-West side held onto power was because he made a “deal with the devil” in the form of a coalition with Milosevic’s party. The Russian people, in Russia and everywhere else they live, uniformly love Putin, yet I’m certain you’d say that’s undemocratic too.

I’m sick and tired of countries being accused of being anti-Democratic if they don’t vote in Pro-West parties.

What’s your stance on the Hamas victory in Palestine? I don’t here you complaining how un-Democratic it was to cut off ties with the Palestinian government when the people there democratically elected Hamas.

I may not agree with Hamas, Milosevic or Ahmadinejad but the people in those countries have a right to vote for whomever they choose, it should not be conditioned on whether they are on the “approved” list by Western countries.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Reality check to all (how many times I have to post it again and again?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Griboyedov

Please look at the death circumstances.

Iran is a quasi-democracy and since in this case the vote was for an incumbent PM, that would mean, indeed, they voted democratically.

I am using "quasi" because who can be voted for has to be approved by mullahs.
I am using "democracy" because the vote for AVAILABLE candidates can be regarded as popular vote.

Huge areas of Iran are underdeveloped, the population is backwards-thinking and can become fanatics very easy. See the case with Griboyedov.

Nothing new, few years ago Americans, too, voted for a criminal into the highest office - twice.

Now Iranians turn to vote a maniac second time into the highest office. If there is afterlife, he will meet with Bush in the hot place... despite both being elected democratically. Very sad, we can't do anything about it, Iran needs a lot of time to become a better place.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

“Nothing new, few years ago Americans, too, voted for a criminal into the highest office - twice. (Ataman, 14 June 2009 23:26)”

Actually Bush LOST the first election, ha ha.

If you look at Bush’s seizure of the media and comments like those who don’t support the war are aiding and abetting the terrorists, it becomes very clear that freedom of speech and democracy took a big hit in the Bush years.

I agree with Ataman, I don’t think Iran has a high level of democracy, however, I’m not too impressed with American democracy and I live here. Personally I think a two party system is not very democratic, generally we’re voting against the guy we hate more, and I just don’t see a very big difference in the actions of the two parties, they are mostly the same really.

I love Obama and I think his heart is in the right place, but so far he’s been completely powerless to make any meaningful changes. Hopefully he’ll follow in Carter’s footsteps and do great good for the world after his presidency.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

Congratulations to Mr.Ahmadinejad!
I hope the Free Trade agreement between Iran and Serbia will kick in soon and Iran will get the bomb.
(CG, 13 June 2009 18:44)

Sad reality: Iran probably ALREADY HAS it. No, I hope differently. I hope, SERBIA will get that BIG BOMB. There is no bomb for Serbia and for Israel which is not BIG ENOUGH.

You know, a big enough bomb is the best "reality on the ground". These days the reality looks better if you have some megatonns.

-------------

Iran is a crucial Russian and Serbian ally
(CG, 13 June 2009 18:44)

Iran is in the fact very-very anti-Russian at heart. As one Russian politician did say - literally - and I did watch it on TV:

"Боже упаси нас от таких друзей"