Belgrade, EULEX "in customs dispute"

Ron from Holland,

Thanks for "enlighting" the Albanians what is to accept and what is not to accept.

The thing is that the Albanians don't want to listen to you anymore if I can put it politely.

We will see that the six points plan will be implemented.

As long as 1244 is valid UNMIK is in full control of Kosovo!

It is time the Albanians accept that!

There is no dispute, just Tadic can't admit it openly. Serbia must do what EULEX wants, and that's one customs zone, one police etc. Very soon the blockade of serbian products will follow unless Serbia allows Made in Kosovo stamp. Serbia can't have it both ways, let them complain to UNMIK later

Six point plan has been long dead and never got up the ground.

EA,

Sorry my friend, but in 1999 Albanians agreed on "Kosovo is part of YU/Serbia".

And even if they did not: Kosovo does simply not have the right to split from Serbia?

I mean, Flanders may not split from Belgium. Why should we make an exception for Kosovo?

At the end of the day this awful mess will impede the regeions entry to the EU.

In Western Europe anti EU sentiments are growing. Most people do not want new members the coming years.

Let alone third world like countries like Albania.

My friend, I hate to say this. I wish the whole of YU (as one coutnry) had entered the EU years ago.

All these new states were so unnecessary. Learn to live together!

Ron,

Kosova is sui generes, and its independence is irreversable.

"since the government of Serbia agreed with the UN secretary-general's Kosovo report dated November 24 of last year, about the establishment of checkpoints controlled by international customs staff"
--
Nice one Tadic!

lili,

Was I at Sebrenica?

To all: as long as people try to change borders unilaterally there will be no peace at the Balkans!

So what you want? Peace or war?

So what you want? Peace or war?
(Ron, 6 June 2009 20:17)

Both sides want peace - but each wants the best possible deal out of it. As the result, they get lousy deal and war.

Best deal would be obviously the entire YU part of the (good or bad) EU long ago, but no, they did not listen to reason and all sides got their wanna-be "Titos" who wanted to be the only heir. Same in Soviet Union. The result is mildly speaking lousy.

DannyBoy,

Kosovo independent? Is there a deal then? Then I missed this breaking news. You got a link for me?

Thanks in advance!

Serbia, Spain, and other states opposed to the independence of Kosovo argue that its unilateral declaration of statehood is illegal under international law.
Those supporting Kosovo’s independence, including the United States, don’t seem to disagree. Rather than arguing that Kosovo’s declaration can be reconciled with principles of territorial integrity, they contend that Kosovo is “sui generis” and therefore “does not set a precedent.” In other words, no, it isn’t legal, but not to worry, it won’t happen again.

this was taken from another website http://intlawgrrls.blogspot.com/2008/02/kosovos-independence-does-legality.html

So basically the involved parties couldnt make an agreement, those on team America said Kosovo independence is a one off, not strictly legal but hey never mind. Team Russia say no its not a special case this could be applied to any other ethnic group in the world.

Kosovo peoples you are the product of a political game, The US cares very little for your independence and Russia really cares very little about Kosovo being part of Serbia.

The UK dislikes the Russians, its been that way for many many years since the Tsar days. The UK supported NATO bombings and Kosovo independence to rub the Russians up the wrong way. The UK asked the US to back independence of Kosovo, the US said yes because of the support we Brits have give them on the war on terror.

The UK and US want Serbia in the EU ,they are key to the Balkans and to some extent possible a key to better Russian relations or another way of boxing Russia in. Kosovo will be a protectorate for many years to come, giving them enough to think they are independent.

To be frank the west needs to build bridges with Muslim contries hence Albania joining NATO. Its showing the world we are not anti Islamic, but at the same time we gain some control over these Europeon muslim states (Turkey,Albania,Bosnia).

The issue of of the 6 point plan is not dead, EULEX is netural and it will work with Serbia and K-Albanians regarding customs etc, after all its in all our interests.

The danger is Kosovo will fall behind even more as no one really wants to invest in the province, the only time the status is really solved is IF Serbia recognises Kosovo independence. Which will not happen any time soon.

"To all: as long as people try to change borders unilaterally there will be no peace at the Balkans!

So what you want? Peace or war?"

Who is threatening war?

DaveUK,

What you're talking about is bs. Kosova is independed - done deal!

What did Biden say when he was in the Balkans "the process of Kosovas independence is irreversable"

"All these new states were so unnecessary"...
It was too,i suppose, what your dutch military chiefs thought at Sebrenica? i understand now why you let happen this massacre...

as for unmik control on kosovo,we have seen in march 2004 how much you could count on it!

What did Biden say when he was in the Balkans "the process of Kosovas independence is irreversable"
(DannyBoy, 7 June 2009 12:22)

And we have to take this as God's word? Biden might be a God to you but he is nothing to the Serbs and even the Americans.

Biden's time is limited on the world stage just like Bush's, Condi's and Clinton's.
Yes we have Clinton 2 now but she has an expiration date too. Meanwhile Kosovo will remain sacred Serbian land a lot longer than any of these politicians will remain in power.

This all started with Clinton 1 and is still going. Clinton 2 will be gone and Kosovo will not be Albanian.

Ron,

Kosova is sui generes, and its independence is irreversable.
(KOSOVARi, 6 June 2009 19:20)

For us out there who don't know, please tell us how so.

What's the difference between Kosovo and let's say Rwanda? Rwanda had a lot more blood shed and the tribes have not been split up into separate countries.

Maybe Rwanda is not in a good position to host camp Bondsteel. Now that's the difference. This is what makes Kosovo unique?

We will see that the six points plan will be implemented.

As long as 1244 is valid UNMIK is in full control of Kosovo!

It is time the Albanians accept that!

Six point plan has been long dead and never got up the ground.

There is no dispute, just Tadic can't admit it openly. Serbia must do what EULEX wants, and that's one customs zone, one police etc. Very soon the blockade of serbian products will follow unless Serbia allows Made in Kosovo stamp. Serbia can't have it both ways, let them complain to UNMIK later

EA,

Sorry my friend, but in 1999 Albanians agreed on "Kosovo is part of YU/Serbia".

And even if they did not: Kosovo does simply not have the right to split from Serbia?

I mean, Flanders may not split from Belgium. Why should we make an exception for Kosovo?

At the end of the day this awful mess will impede the regeions entry to the EU.

In Western Europe anti EU sentiments are growing. Most people do not want new members the coming years.

Let alone third world like countries like Albania.

My friend, I hate to say this. I wish the whole of YU (as one coutnry) had entered the EU years ago.

All these new states were so unnecessary. Learn to live together!

Ron from Holland,

Thanks for "enlighting" the Albanians what is to accept and what is not to accept.

The thing is that the Albanians don't want to listen to you anymore if I can put it politely.

Ron,

Kosova is sui generes, and its independence is irreversable.

lili,

Was I at Sebrenica?

To all: as long as people try to change borders unilaterally there will be no peace at the Balkans!

So what you want? Peace or war?

"since the government of Serbia agreed with the UN secretary-general's Kosovo report dated November 24 of last year, about the establishment of checkpoints controlled by international customs staff"
--
Nice one Tadic!

DaveUK,

What you're talking about is bs. Kosova is independed - done deal!

What did Biden say when he was in the Balkans "the process of Kosovas independence is irreversable"

Serbia, Spain, and other states opposed to the independence of Kosovo argue that its unilateral declaration of statehood is illegal under international law.
Those supporting Kosovo’s independence, including the United States, don’t seem to disagree. Rather than arguing that Kosovo’s declaration can be reconciled with principles of territorial integrity, they contend that Kosovo is “sui generis” and therefore “does not set a precedent.” In other words, no, it isn’t legal, but not to worry, it won’t happen again.

this was taken from another website http://intlawgrrls.blogspot.com/2008/02/kosovos-independence-does-legality.html

So basically the involved parties couldnt make an agreement, those on team America said Kosovo independence is a one off, not strictly legal but hey never mind. Team Russia say no its not a special case this could be applied to any other ethnic group in the world.

Kosovo peoples you are the product of a political game, The US cares very little for your independence and Russia really cares very little about Kosovo being part of Serbia.

The UK dislikes the Russians, its been that way for many many years since the Tsar days. The UK supported NATO bombings and Kosovo independence to rub the Russians up the wrong way. The UK asked the US to back independence of Kosovo, the US said yes because of the support we Brits have give them on the war on terror.

The UK and US want Serbia in the EU ,they are key to the Balkans and to some extent possible a key to better Russian relations or another way of boxing Russia in. Kosovo will be a protectorate for many years to come, giving them enough to think they are independent.

To be frank the west needs to build bridges with Muslim contries hence Albania joining NATO. Its showing the world we are not anti Islamic, but at the same time we gain some control over these Europeon muslim states (Turkey,Albania,Bosnia).

The issue of of the 6 point plan is not dead, EULEX is netural and it will work with Serbia and K-Albanians regarding customs etc, after all its in all our interests.

The danger is Kosovo will fall behind even more as no one really wants to invest in the province, the only time the status is really solved is IF Serbia recognises Kosovo independence. Which will not happen any time soon.

"All these new states were so unnecessary"...
It was too,i suppose, what your dutch military chiefs thought at Sebrenica? i understand now why you let happen this massacre...

as for unmik control on kosovo,we have seen in march 2004 how much you could count on it!

"To all: as long as people try to change borders unilaterally there will be no peace at the Balkans!

So what you want? Peace or war?"

Who is threatening war?

So what you want? Peace or war?
(Ron, 6 June 2009 20:17)

Both sides want peace - but each wants the best possible deal out of it. As the result, they get lousy deal and war.

Best deal would be obviously the entire YU part of the (good or bad) EU long ago, but no, they did not listen to reason and all sides got their wanna-be "Titos" who wanted to be the only heir. Same in Soviet Union. The result is mildly speaking lousy.

DannyBoy,

Kosovo independent? Is there a deal then? Then I missed this breaking news. You got a link for me?

Thanks in advance!

What did Biden say when he was in the Balkans "the process of Kosovas independence is irreversable"
(DannyBoy, 7 June 2009 12:22)

And we have to take this as God's word? Biden might be a God to you but he is nothing to the Serbs and even the Americans.

Biden's time is limited on the world stage just like Bush's, Condi's and Clinton's.
Yes we have Clinton 2 now but she has an expiration date too. Meanwhile Kosovo will remain sacred Serbian land a lot longer than any of these politicians will remain in power.

This all started with Clinton 1 and is still going. Clinton 2 will be gone and Kosovo will not be Albanian.

Ron,

Kosova is sui generes, and its independence is irreversable.
(KOSOVARi, 6 June 2009 19:20)

For us out there who don't know, please tell us how so.

What's the difference between Kosovo and let's say Rwanda? Rwanda had a lot more blood shed and the tribes have not been split up into separate countries.

Maybe Rwanda is not in a good position to host camp Bondsteel. Now that's the difference. This is what makes Kosovo unique?