EULEX: New probe into 2001 bus bombing

alban:

Nice try alban, but the massacres started with albanians when they began murdering and kidnapping people. It was the uck terror campaign fully backed by america. We don't need sympathy from people who are trying to steal our Holy Land.

More shame over the serbian puppet regime.

This is an internal serbian matter and should be investigated by serbia and not agents of foreighn aggressors and occupants.

Why not impose a "Russlex" there as well for the sake of balance since it´s illigal anyway?

Only monsters are capable of committing such a despicable crime.May the souls of the departed rest in eternal peace.

albanian posters NEVER take responsibility for their communities crimes. albanians blew up a freeking bus with civilians on it, not soldiers, police or paramilitary units. You blew up a bus, carrying women and children.

Regarding our soldiers, we'll prosecute our troops for misconduct during the wars which we've proven capable of doing. Can you? Let me answer that for all to see. Only nations have rules of law and judicial systems capable of prosecuting crime. You are not a country, you offer nothing, you have nothing, your control nothing but drugs and human trafficing.

I hope the find the perpetrators and shoot them.

Of course the same goes for every Serbian soldier, police or paramilitary that massacred Albanian civilians.

Since EULEX is “status neutral” there’s no reason they can’t investigate Ejupi for trial under the Serbian court system. 2001 was long before “Kosova” declared “independence” anyway.

Think of it like the Rodney King beating, those guys went free under California law, but were later tried and convicted under Federal Law.

Or charge him with conspiracy and go after his helpers. I’m very sure conspiracy was not part of the original charges. I can think of a million other types of charges they could go after him with.

EULEX’s excuses are pitiful.

And why would an acquittal due to “lack of proof” bar further investigation? Typically in the US, it’d be bumped back to the prosecution for a retrial.

Alban wrote.

Double jeopardy prevents this. There is no federal law in Kosova nor Serbia for that matter. It's quite possible that HE didn't do or have anything to do with it.

Firs, double jeopardy only applies when you have served your time for the crime you were convicted on. If you were not guilty but later on commit that exact crime (like murder) then you cannot be tried for it twice, but if you were acquitted and later on some new evidence comes to light, then they can have another trial.

Second, he was found guilty on DNA evidence. So, you see they did have the evidence and enough of it to find him guilty. Just because EULEX decided that they didn't want him in jail doesn't mean there was no evidence.

"And why would an acquittal due to “lack of proof” bar further investigation? Typically in the US, it’d be bumped back to the prosecution for a retrial."

Double jeopardy prevents this. There is no federal law in Kosova nor Serbia for that matter. It's quite possible that HE didn't do or have anything to do with it.

--Regarding our soldiers, we'll prosecute our troops for misconduct during the wars which we've proven capable of doing. Can you?

Ummmm....he was charged and jailed by Kosova but EULEX freed him. How many Serbian soldiers and government sponsored paramilitary thugs have been jailed for massacring some 10,000 Albanian civilians?

Amer @9.

UK for starters. Take a look at this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4406129.stm

Belgium, Germany, The Netherlends, Spain and UK have still to ratify the agreement with other countries in the EU on Double Jeopardy.

In December 2006, Premier of NSW Morris Iemma scrapped substantial parts of the double jeopardy law. Retrials of serious cases with a minumum of 20 years of more are now possible.

Since Serbia is not in the EU they obviously don't have any agreement on double jeopardy and don't need to ratify anything. I don't know how this stands there but as you can see retrials are possible and number of countries willing to retry serious crimes will only increase thanks to new technology enabling us to solve old crimes.

A I the only person who finds it distasteful that this event is politicised by so many posters here? Also, isnt it a shame that so much attention isnt applied to prosecuting the NATO representatives responsible for bombing innocent civilians in Belgrade such as those in hospitals, on buses and trains and in the Chinese Embassy. In all instances, unseen perpatrators detonated huge bombs that killed innocent civilians, I wonder when there will be some balance of approach to all crimes of murder?

'Firs, double jeopardy only applies when you have served your time for the crime you were convicted on. If you were not guilty but later on commit that exact crime (like murder) then you cannot be tried for it twice, but if you were acquitted and later on some new evidence comes to light, then they can have another trial.'

In what country? Not in the U.S., anyway: "[T]he Double Jeopardy Clause protects against three distinct abuses: [1] a second prosecution for the same offense after acquittal; [2] a second prosecution for the same offense after conviction; and [3] multiple punishments for the same offense.' U.S. v. Halper, 490 U.S. 435, 440 (1989)."

As for the DNA evidence - it has to be linked to a specific act, it's not enough just to show that somebody was somewhere or handled something at some point in time. It has to be connected directly to the commission of the crime. Inference isn't good enough.

I hope the find the perpetrators and shoot them.

Of course the same goes for every Serbian soldier, police or paramilitary that massacred Albanian civilians.

alban:

Nice try alban, but the massacres started with albanians when they began murdering and kidnapping people. It was the uck terror campaign fully backed by america. We don't need sympathy from people who are trying to steal our Holy Land.

More shame over the serbian puppet regime.

This is an internal serbian matter and should be investigated by serbia and not agents of foreighn aggressors and occupants.

Why not impose a "Russlex" there as well for the sake of balance since it´s illigal anyway?

albanian posters NEVER take responsibility for their communities crimes. albanians blew up a freeking bus with civilians on it, not soldiers, police or paramilitary units. You blew up a bus, carrying women and children.

Regarding our soldiers, we'll prosecute our troops for misconduct during the wars which we've proven capable of doing. Can you? Let me answer that for all to see. Only nations have rules of law and judicial systems capable of prosecuting crime. You are not a country, you offer nothing, you have nothing, your control nothing but drugs and human trafficing.

Only monsters are capable of committing such a despicable crime.May the souls of the departed rest in eternal peace.

Since EULEX is “status neutral” there’s no reason they can’t investigate Ejupi for trial under the Serbian court system. 2001 was long before “Kosova” declared “independence” anyway.

Think of it like the Rodney King beating, those guys went free under California law, but were later tried and convicted under Federal Law.

Or charge him with conspiracy and go after his helpers. I’m very sure conspiracy was not part of the original charges. I can think of a million other types of charges they could go after him with.

EULEX’s excuses are pitiful.

And why would an acquittal due to “lack of proof” bar further investigation? Typically in the US, it’d be bumped back to the prosecution for a retrial.

"And why would an acquittal due to “lack of proof” bar further investigation? Typically in the US, it’d be bumped back to the prosecution for a retrial."

Double jeopardy prevents this. There is no federal law in Kosova nor Serbia for that matter. It's quite possible that HE didn't do or have anything to do with it.

--Regarding our soldiers, we'll prosecute our troops for misconduct during the wars which we've proven capable of doing. Can you?

Ummmm....he was charged and jailed by Kosova but EULEX freed him. How many Serbian soldiers and government sponsored paramilitary thugs have been jailed for massacring some 10,000 Albanian civilians?

'Firs, double jeopardy only applies when you have served your time for the crime you were convicted on. If you were not guilty but later on commit that exact crime (like murder) then you cannot be tried for it twice, but if you were acquitted and later on some new evidence comes to light, then they can have another trial.'

In what country? Not in the U.S., anyway: "[T]he Double Jeopardy Clause protects against three distinct abuses: [1] a second prosecution for the same offense after acquittal; [2] a second prosecution for the same offense after conviction; and [3] multiple punishments for the same offense.' U.S. v. Halper, 490 U.S. 435, 440 (1989)."

As for the DNA evidence - it has to be linked to a specific act, it's not enough just to show that somebody was somewhere or handled something at some point in time. It has to be connected directly to the commission of the crime. Inference isn't good enough.

Alban wrote.

Double jeopardy prevents this. There is no federal law in Kosova nor Serbia for that matter. It's quite possible that HE didn't do or have anything to do with it.

Firs, double jeopardy only applies when you have served your time for the crime you were convicted on. If you were not guilty but later on commit that exact crime (like murder) then you cannot be tried for it twice, but if you were acquitted and later on some new evidence comes to light, then they can have another trial.

Second, he was found guilty on DNA evidence. So, you see they did have the evidence and enough of it to find him guilty. Just because EULEX decided that they didn't want him in jail doesn't mean there was no evidence.

A I the only person who finds it distasteful that this event is politicised by so many posters here? Also, isnt it a shame that so much attention isnt applied to prosecuting the NATO representatives responsible for bombing innocent civilians in Belgrade such as those in hospitals, on buses and trains and in the Chinese Embassy. In all instances, unseen perpatrators detonated huge bombs that killed innocent civilians, I wonder when there will be some balance of approach to all crimes of murder?

Amer @9.

UK for starters. Take a look at this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4406129.stm

Belgium, Germany, The Netherlends, Spain and UK have still to ratify the agreement with other countries in the EU on Double Jeopardy.

In December 2006, Premier of NSW Morris Iemma scrapped substantial parts of the double jeopardy law. Retrials of serious cases with a minumum of 20 years of more are now possible.

Since Serbia is not in the EU they obviously don't have any agreement on double jeopardy and don't need to ratify anything. I don't know how this stands there but as you can see retrials are possible and number of countries willing to retry serious crimes will only increase thanks to new technology enabling us to solve old crimes.