President embarks on France visit

"Serbia hates the West, yet cannot wait to get into the EU."
pilaf

Compared to Albanians, Serbia will always be the West.

Why so irritated my Albanian friends, did the memorial for Serbian soldiers who died fighting fascism with the French make you feel excluded? Or was it the common sense argument about compromise? Deep down inside you must know that your persecution of minorities in Kosovo will eventually become clear for all the world to see and eventually you will have to look at the ground below your feet and know that you are standing on Serbian soil. Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Peace and Love

To all of my Albanian decendants: You're skills are prognostication have been ever so brilliantly plastered all over the message boards of Eastern Europe. However, I have seen a dramatic shift from mildly acurate, to borderline correct, to all over the place wishful thinking. Please refrain from misrepresenting the art of prognostication when you're certainly lacking the skill.

No matter whether the news are positive or negative for Serbia most of the K-albanians posters here are never failing to show their hatred and low level of decency comments.
If you want to convince us that you can share our values then you better start immediately to change your attitude and work for what you called your country and stop blaiming the others for all what happened!

In Switzerland we have more than half a million ex-Yu and apart from some "black sheeps" we never have or had any problems with their integretation. I can certainly not pretend the same with 70% of the K-Albanians that came as "refugees" and are today involved in all sorts of criminial activities.
This is the reality on "our" ground and needless to say that by reading this kind of forum our opinion will certainly not change for bette and for long!

Serbia hates the West, yet cannot wait to get into the EU.

So, what happenened to looking East towards Russia?

"Working visit" - as opposed to "state visit" - means that the Serbian President is in France without a full-fledged invitation from his counterpart.

"We cannot accept that the Albanians get everything and that the Serbs lose everything; this is contrary to any kind of compromise."

Do you want to get equal Mr.Tadic? Do you want to get some of that everything that we got? Ten thousand people dead one million people forced out of Kosovo,women raped houses burned?It doesn't matter if you act all peaceful,the mentality of war is all there.

"Sooner or later, the negotiations will continue in a more calm atmosphere, because Kosovo will not be able to get a UN seat without our agreement.

The UN seat it doesn't depend on Serbia but on the Russian veto.It is the only thing that keeps Serbia still in the game. The Russians can do whatever they want with their veto but to declare that Serbia is the owner of that veto when it comes to Kosovo it is a little cocky. You might be deeply deluded if the Russians change their mind.

When kosova join we will block serbia. No eu for serbia.

" the period before the First World War."

Oh boy how things change!

"Sooner or later, the negotiations will continue in a more calm atmosphere, because Kosovo will not be able to get a UN seat without our agreement."

Or you an EU seat. By then, the Russians will have sold you out already. I remember Kostunica ruling out EU membership and EULEX unless...

"Compared to Albanians, Serbia will always be the West."

So what % of Serbs support EU and NATO? And let's not get into Eastern and Western :-)

""Working visit" - as opposed to "state visit" - means that the Serbian President is in France without a full-fledged invitation from his counterpart."

This is a trick to force Sarkozy to meet Tadic for at least a few minutes to avoid a diplomatic incident. Google "Sandbagged." Imagine if the President of a country went to France and the French didn't give him proper respect?

Jeremic waited in the WH for an hour but said he met Biden's adviser. (a lie)

With Tadic essentially surrendering (notice how he says "Serbs have to get something too" and mentions UN many years later) visits will be granted. Even Tadic knows it's over, he just hopes for a face saving agreement. Going back 100 years is funny, by Tadic's logic, Germany and France should hate each other. Even then, it was about french interests, not love for Serbia.

The minimum requirement: Serba will get it's EU seat when Kosova gets its UN seat

When kosova join we will block serbia. No eu for serbia.
(Albanism, 27 May 2009 13:35)

You forgot Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Cyrpus and Greece. Oh yes there's Belgrae as well. Remember without Belgrade's permission you cant go anywhere.

this is from AP
"French President Nicolas Sarkozy has told Serbian President Boris Tadic that he needs to work with Kosovo and to help track down Serbian war criminals who are still on the run."
need I say more!

"We cannot accept that the Albanians get everything and that the Serbs lose everything; this is contrary to any kind of compromise."

What is Tadic "solution"? Deviding Kosova in the name of compromise? And then Macedonia? Why not according to Tadic's logic? Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from Serbia? I can get a longer list. With Kosova's independence everyone is a winner. Same rights for Serb minority in Kosova to the rights of Albanians in Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Serbia to recognise Kosova independence. Free movement of goods and people and all Balkans in EU.

What is Tadic "solution"? Deviding Kosova in the name of compromise? And then Macedonia? Why not according to Tadic's logic? Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from Serbia? I can get a longer list. With Kosova's independence everyone is a winner. Same rights for Serb minority in Kosova to the rights of Albanians in Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Serbia to recognise Kosova independence. Free movement of goods and people and all Balkans in EU.
(EA, 28 May 2009 00:13)

I see, so you simply want Serbia to roll over and surrender 15% of of their national territory, a place that contains the bulk of their monasteries, the ecclesiastical seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church, their cultural and spiritual homeland.

I'm afraid EA it isnt as simple as that. Serbia is the only obstacle in the way of US and British Imperial hegemony in SE Europe. If the Turks, Austro-Hungarians and Nazis couldnt beat them, than it is safe to assume that the US ad the native imperialist lackeys wont either. You cannot toss over a 1,000 years of culture and tradition in the bin.

The Serbs are a determined people and their track record shows that in the end they will prevail.

What is it with you EA? Do you want to see peace based on justice and international law or will you not stop until you see the dismemberment and subjugation of Serbia.

"Serbia shall never recognize the unilateral declaration of Kosovo independence," Tadić told the daily.

But -

Nicolas Sarkozy demande à la Serbie de travailler avec le Kosovo:
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches/societe/20090527.FAP4503/nicolas_sarkozy_demande_a_la_serbie_de_travailler_avec_.html


Sarkozy tells Serb leader to work with Kosovo
Associated Press
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=960994〈=eng_news

I hope he got some air-miles, anyway.

EA

The reason Kosovo haS to be partitioned is because no minorities can live there. In Presevo that is not the case. Your threat of starting a war in Macedonia if Kosovo is partitioned will backfire on you more than you can imagine.

Frenh Wire: "Nicolas Sarkozy has also said that France was not expected that Serbia will recognize "immediately" the former Serbian province of Kosovo, but he hoped that the Serbs "find a way to work with Kosovo, with international organizations which 'find and with the Kosovo authorities. "

When kosova join we will block serbia. No eu for serbia.

Serbia hates the West, yet cannot wait to get into the EU.

So, what happenened to looking East towards Russia?

" the period before the First World War."

Oh boy how things change!

"Sooner or later, the negotiations will continue in a more calm atmosphere, because Kosovo will not be able to get a UN seat without our agreement."

Or you an EU seat. By then, the Russians will have sold you out already. I remember Kostunica ruling out EU membership and EULEX unless...

"Compared to Albanians, Serbia will always be the West."

So what % of Serbs support EU and NATO? And let's not get into Eastern and Western :-)

""Working visit" - as opposed to "state visit" - means that the Serbian President is in France without a full-fledged invitation from his counterpart."

This is a trick to force Sarkozy to meet Tadic for at least a few minutes to avoid a diplomatic incident. Google "Sandbagged." Imagine if the President of a country went to France and the French didn't give him proper respect?

Jeremic waited in the WH for an hour but said he met Biden's adviser. (a lie)

With Tadic essentially surrendering (notice how he says "Serbs have to get something too" and mentions UN many years later) visits will be granted. Even Tadic knows it's over, he just hopes for a face saving agreement. Going back 100 years is funny, by Tadic's logic, Germany and France should hate each other. Even then, it was about french interests, not love for Serbia.

The minimum requirement: Serba will get it's EU seat when Kosova gets its UN seat

"Serbia hates the West, yet cannot wait to get into the EU."
pilaf

Compared to Albanians, Serbia will always be the West.

No matter whether the news are positive or negative for Serbia most of the K-albanians posters here are never failing to show their hatred and low level of decency comments.
If you want to convince us that you can share our values then you better start immediately to change your attitude and work for what you called your country and stop blaiming the others for all what happened!

In Switzerland we have more than half a million ex-Yu and apart from some "black sheeps" we never have or had any problems with their integretation. I can certainly not pretend the same with 70% of the K-Albanians that came as "refugees" and are today involved in all sorts of criminial activities.
This is the reality on "our" ground and needless to say that by reading this kind of forum our opinion will certainly not change for bette and for long!

"Working visit" - as opposed to "state visit" - means that the Serbian President is in France without a full-fledged invitation from his counterpart.

To all of my Albanian decendants: You're skills are prognostication have been ever so brilliantly plastered all over the message boards of Eastern Europe. However, I have seen a dramatic shift from mildly acurate, to borderline correct, to all over the place wishful thinking. Please refrain from misrepresenting the art of prognostication when you're certainly lacking the skill.

"We cannot accept that the Albanians get everything and that the Serbs lose everything; this is contrary to any kind of compromise."

Do you want to get equal Mr.Tadic? Do you want to get some of that everything that we got? Ten thousand people dead one million people forced out of Kosovo,women raped houses burned?It doesn't matter if you act all peaceful,the mentality of war is all there.

"Sooner or later, the negotiations will continue in a more calm atmosphere, because Kosovo will not be able to get a UN seat without our agreement.

The UN seat it doesn't depend on Serbia but on the Russian veto.It is the only thing that keeps Serbia still in the game. The Russians can do whatever they want with their veto but to declare that Serbia is the owner of that veto when it comes to Kosovo it is a little cocky. You might be deeply deluded if the Russians change their mind.

Why so irritated my Albanian friends, did the memorial for Serbian soldiers who died fighting fascism with the French make you feel excluded? Or was it the common sense argument about compromise? Deep down inside you must know that your persecution of minorities in Kosovo will eventually become clear for all the world to see and eventually you will have to look at the ground below your feet and know that you are standing on Serbian soil. Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Peace and Love

"We cannot accept that the Albanians get everything and that the Serbs lose everything; this is contrary to any kind of compromise."

What is Tadic "solution"? Deviding Kosova in the name of compromise? And then Macedonia? Why not according to Tadic's logic? Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from Serbia? I can get a longer list. With Kosova's independence everyone is a winner. Same rights for Serb minority in Kosova to the rights of Albanians in Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Serbia to recognise Kosova independence. Free movement of goods and people and all Balkans in EU.

this is from AP
"French President Nicolas Sarkozy has told Serbian President Boris Tadic that he needs to work with Kosovo and to help track down Serbian war criminals who are still on the run."
need I say more!

"Serbia shall never recognize the unilateral declaration of Kosovo independence," Tadić told the daily.

But -

Nicolas Sarkozy demande à la Serbie de travailler avec le Kosovo:
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches/societe/20090527.FAP4503/nicolas_sarkozy_demande_a_la_serbie_de_travailler_avec_.html


Sarkozy tells Serb leader to work with Kosovo
Associated Press
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=960994〈=eng_news

I hope he got some air-miles, anyway.

Frenh Wire: "Nicolas Sarkozy has also said that France was not expected that Serbia will recognize "immediately" the former Serbian province of Kosovo, but he hoped that the Serbs "find a way to work with Kosovo, with international organizations which 'find and with the Kosovo authorities. "

When kosova join we will block serbia. No eu for serbia.
(Albanism, 27 May 2009 13:35)

You forgot Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Cyrpus and Greece. Oh yes there's Belgrae as well. Remember without Belgrade's permission you cant go anywhere.

EA

The reason Kosovo haS to be partitioned is because no minorities can live there. In Presevo that is not the case. Your threat of starting a war in Macedonia if Kosovo is partitioned will backfire on you more than you can imagine.

What is Tadic "solution"? Deviding Kosova in the name of compromise? And then Macedonia? Why not according to Tadic's logic? Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from Serbia? I can get a longer list. With Kosova's independence everyone is a winner. Same rights for Serb minority in Kosova to the rights of Albanians in Preseva, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Serbia to recognise Kosova independence. Free movement of goods and people and all Balkans in EU.
(EA, 28 May 2009 00:13)

I see, so you simply want Serbia to roll over and surrender 15% of of their national territory, a place that contains the bulk of their monasteries, the ecclesiastical seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church, their cultural and spiritual homeland.

I'm afraid EA it isnt as simple as that. Serbia is the only obstacle in the way of US and British Imperial hegemony in SE Europe. If the Turks, Austro-Hungarians and Nazis couldnt beat them, than it is safe to assume that the US ad the native imperialist lackeys wont either. You cannot toss over a 1,000 years of culture and tradition in the bin.

The Serbs are a determined people and their track record shows that in the end they will prevail.

What is it with you EA? Do you want to see peace based on justice and international law or will you not stop until you see the dismemberment and subjugation of Serbia.