"Kosovo's Hyseni lobbying for new recognitions"

Good luck!

Ron you "think" Kosovo independence is illegal.
The countries that control more than 70% of the wealth believe it is legal and know it is morally right!!

I bet that before 01-09-2009 there will be more than 80 countries witch recognized Kosovo. Before the end of the year more than 100. This is a proces nobody can stop anymore.

"Kosovo mistake must be undone!"


Impossible. Or as the Americans put it "irreversible".

Weak lobbying efforts eh mikeC? FMA of Kosova is holding meetings, Saudia Arabia / Turkey / Albania passing a resolution for 57 OIC members.

Did I mention that FM Hyseni has 30 meetings lined up?

This is a bad thing. We all know Kosovo independence is illegal.

If we say YES to Kosovo how can we say NO to others...

Kosovo mistake must be undone!

Expect El Salvador to recognize Kosovo very soon. That's the word as of right now.

he is useless.... this rubbish government need to give him the sack!

'If we say YES to Kosovo how can we say NO to others...'

The case of Kosovo is sui generis.

The case of Kosovo is sui generis.
(Amer, 25 May 2009 21:06)

Really, what about Nagorno Karabakh, Tibet, Palestine, Basque Country, Catalunya, Corsica, Republika Srpska, Transdniestr, eastern Ukraine & Crimea, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transylvanian Hungarians, South Tyrol, West Papua, Diego Garcia, Kurdistan, Tamils in Sri Lanka, Shia in Iraq, southern Phillipines, Banda Aceh, Mollucas Islands, French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Western Sahara.

Dont they have the right to independence too? Oh i forgot, you suit the Imperial agenda just nicely. Double standards and hypocrisy at its worst.

Thanks for the update zhulsi!

You are a very reliable source.

Anythinig else you can enlighten me with?

Ron you "think" Kosovo independence is illegal.
The countries that control more than 70% of the wealth believe it is legal and know it is morally right!!
(pss, 25 May 2009 20:33)

Oh Yes... Mayby for Albanians money is on first place - but for us - on first place is international law. If You think that rich countries can broke international law only becouse their economy power - You are wrong.

@Amer - perhaps you could enlighten us as to why Kosovo is unique?

I can claim to be pretty knowledgeable about international politics and international law and I cannot for one moment see why Kosovo is unique. Interestingly, even British and French officials have admitted that the legal grounds for independence are weak, to say the least.

The only reason they accepted the UDI was to get out before the people they 'liberated' turned on them. As Russia stated, independence represented giving in to blackmail and threats of violence. It was a purely political decision, made with regret but on the understanding that there was no alternative. They put themselves in a situation they did not understand.

It would be good if, one day, these countries would do the honest and decent thing and admit their mistake to Serbia, and explain that independence was needed to get themselves out of a mess of their own creation. It was not taken for reasons of justice or out of a great love for Albanians; quite the opposite, in fact.

pss:
"Ron you "think" Kosovo independence is illegal.
The countries that control more than 70% of the wealth believe it is legal and know it is morally right!!"

well, sure these countries hold 70% of the world's wealth as well as 80% of the world's debt. They're broke millionaires, thats all.
Furthermore, as you said they believe it to be legal, as they believe it to be just. They don't KNOW what justice is. The They I refer to is the US-Conglormation-Of-Greed.

Money and numbers are not sufficient when the issues are in the legal arena. However, that being said, no body would be surprised whatsoever if the legal arena is bought out.

But alas I must thank you for the uninspired repetition of the same basic fact of tangential consequence.

If we say YES to Kosovo how can we say NO to others...'

The case of Kosovo is sui generis.
(Amer, 25 May 2009 21:06)

Do you even know what they mean by that or are you just mimicking your masters?

Now that is suits you. Where was Int law when you had the advantage militarily?
(AgIm, 26 May 2009 00:43)

Oh... Is for Albanians military intervention against terrorists on the territory of our country against international law??
Was Georgian military intervention in Ossetia in 2008 must be too against int. law?? Or maybe was Sri Lankan military action against Tamil "illegal"??
No - there was legal actions. Like Serbian military action in Kosovo in 1998-99.

"Oh Yes... Mayby for Albanians money is on first place - but for us - on first place is international law."

Now that is suits you. Where was Int law when you had the advantage militarily?

Do you even know what they mean by that or are you just mimicking your masters?
(Peggy, 26 May 2009 03:07)

Puppets on a string spring to mind. We can always rely on the 'Axis of Evil' nonsense from the Albanians.

Serbia has never owed Kosovo without any disputes, not only form the Albanians but also from the international community as well. Many great powers at the time voted for Kosovo to go to Albania not Serbia, but Serbian was able to gather stronger support.

In any case, many of the countries that are nowadays sovereign 'appeared' on the world's political map long before there was any 'international law' or even the UN. So to suggest that Kosovo's independence cannot be legitimate given UN objections (which are only partly so) is to take a naive interpretation of how international relations function. Int'l law is an array of interests (simplistically said, of course) which, when there's no convergence, it is 'violated' repeatedly.

Kosovo's claim to statehood, amongst many valid claims, should be primarily anchored on the 'moral argument' of widespread state-sponsored killings which made Serbia's continued claim to sovereignty over Kosovo an untenable position. Note that the US's declaration of independence, long before there was any modern-day int'l law or an int'l org like the UN was based primarily on the idea of UK's colonial, repressive policy.

But, speaking of int'l law: how come Serbia consistently claims coverage by int'l law over its Kosovo sovereignty claim, when this same law was repeatedly violated through the commission of unprecedented state-sponsored war crimes? What part of int'l law sanctions this kind of behavior?

Kosovo is a done deal, and there will be no more going back, and no negotiation on status. Kosovo independence is moving forward.

This is reflected very clearly by the fact that the number of countries recognizing is only growing and never shrinking.

Kosovo is a done deal, and there will be no more going back, and no negotiation on status. Kosovo independence is moving forward.

This is reflected very clearly by the fact that the number of countries recognizing is only growing and never shrinking.
(Denis, 26 May 2009 20:08)

It will never grow enough.
Shrinking will come later.

"It will never grow enough.
Shrinking will come later."
(Peggy, 27 May 2009 04:08)

If by "shrinking" you mean Kosova will join Albania you are right on that. What you are hoping might have a domino effect like Kosova's independence.

This is a bad thing. We all know Kosovo independence is illegal.

If we say YES to Kosovo how can we say NO to others...

Kosovo mistake must be undone!

Good luck!

Thanks for the update zhulsi!

You are a very reliable source.

Anythinig else you can enlighten me with?

Expect El Salvador to recognize Kosovo very soon. That's the word as of right now.

Weak lobbying efforts eh mikeC? FMA of Kosova is holding meetings, Saudia Arabia / Turkey / Albania passing a resolution for 57 OIC members.

Did I mention that FM Hyseni has 30 meetings lined up?

'If we say YES to Kosovo how can we say NO to others...'

The case of Kosovo is sui generis.

Ron you "think" Kosovo independence is illegal.
The countries that control more than 70% of the wealth believe it is legal and know it is morally right!!

The case of Kosovo is sui generis.
(Amer, 25 May 2009 21:06)

Really, what about Nagorno Karabakh, Tibet, Palestine, Basque Country, Catalunya, Corsica, Republika Srpska, Transdniestr, eastern Ukraine & Crimea, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transylvanian Hungarians, South Tyrol, West Papua, Diego Garcia, Kurdistan, Tamils in Sri Lanka, Shia in Iraq, southern Phillipines, Banda Aceh, Mollucas Islands, French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Western Sahara.

Dont they have the right to independence too? Oh i forgot, you suit the Imperial agenda just nicely. Double standards and hypocrisy at its worst.

"Kosovo mistake must be undone!"


Impossible. Or as the Americans put it "irreversible".

I bet that before 01-09-2009 there will be more than 80 countries witch recognized Kosovo. Before the end of the year more than 100. This is a proces nobody can stop anymore.

pss:
"Ron you "think" Kosovo independence is illegal.
The countries that control more than 70% of the wealth believe it is legal and know it is morally right!!"

well, sure these countries hold 70% of the world's wealth as well as 80% of the world's debt. They're broke millionaires, thats all.
Furthermore, as you said they believe it to be legal, as they believe it to be just. They don't KNOW what justice is. The They I refer to is the US-Conglormation-Of-Greed.

Money and numbers are not sufficient when the issues are in the legal arena. However, that being said, no body would be surprised whatsoever if the legal arena is bought out.

But alas I must thank you for the uninspired repetition of the same basic fact of tangential consequence.

Ron you "think" Kosovo independence is illegal.
The countries that control more than 70% of the wealth believe it is legal and know it is morally right!!
(pss, 25 May 2009 20:33)

Oh Yes... Mayby for Albanians money is on first place - but for us - on first place is international law. If You think that rich countries can broke international law only becouse their economy power - You are wrong.

"Oh Yes... Mayby for Albanians money is on first place - but for us - on first place is international law."

Now that is suits you. Where was Int law when you had the advantage militarily?

he is useless.... this rubbish government need to give him the sack!

If we say YES to Kosovo how can we say NO to others...'

The case of Kosovo is sui generis.
(Amer, 25 May 2009 21:06)

Do you even know what they mean by that or are you just mimicking your masters?

Now that is suits you. Where was Int law when you had the advantage militarily?
(AgIm, 26 May 2009 00:43)

Oh... Is for Albanians military intervention against terrorists on the territory of our country against international law??
Was Georgian military intervention in Ossetia in 2008 must be too against int. law?? Or maybe was Sri Lankan military action against Tamil "illegal"??
No - there was legal actions. Like Serbian military action in Kosovo in 1998-99.

Do you even know what they mean by that or are you just mimicking your masters?
(Peggy, 26 May 2009 03:07)

Puppets on a string spring to mind. We can always rely on the 'Axis of Evil' nonsense from the Albanians.

@Amer - perhaps you could enlighten us as to why Kosovo is unique?

I can claim to be pretty knowledgeable about international politics and international law and I cannot for one moment see why Kosovo is unique. Interestingly, even British and French officials have admitted that the legal grounds for independence are weak, to say the least.

The only reason they accepted the UDI was to get out before the people they 'liberated' turned on them. As Russia stated, independence represented giving in to blackmail and threats of violence. It was a purely political decision, made with regret but on the understanding that there was no alternative. They put themselves in a situation they did not understand.

It would be good if, one day, these countries would do the honest and decent thing and admit their mistake to Serbia, and explain that independence was needed to get themselves out of a mess of their own creation. It was not taken for reasons of justice or out of a great love for Albanians; quite the opposite, in fact.

Serbia has never owed Kosovo without any disputes, not only form the Albanians but also from the international community as well. Many great powers at the time voted for Kosovo to go to Albania not Serbia, but Serbian was able to gather stronger support.

In any case, many of the countries that are nowadays sovereign 'appeared' on the world's political map long before there was any 'international law' or even the UN. So to suggest that Kosovo's independence cannot be legitimate given UN objections (which are only partly so) is to take a naive interpretation of how international relations function. Int'l law is an array of interests (simplistically said, of course) which, when there's no convergence, it is 'violated' repeatedly.

Kosovo's claim to statehood, amongst many valid claims, should be primarily anchored on the 'moral argument' of widespread state-sponsored killings which made Serbia's continued claim to sovereignty over Kosovo an untenable position. Note that the US's declaration of independence, long before there was any modern-day int'l law or an int'l org like the UN was based primarily on the idea of UK's colonial, repressive policy.

But, speaking of int'l law: how come Serbia consistently claims coverage by int'l law over its Kosovo sovereignty claim, when this same law was repeatedly violated through the commission of unprecedented state-sponsored war crimes? What part of int'l law sanctions this kind of behavior?

Kosovo is a done deal, and there will be no more going back, and no negotiation on status. Kosovo independence is moving forward.

This is reflected very clearly by the fact that the number of countries recognizing is only growing and never shrinking.

Kosovo is a done deal, and there will be no more going back, and no negotiation on status. Kosovo independence is moving forward.

This is reflected very clearly by the fact that the number of countries recognizing is only growing and never shrinking.
(Denis, 26 May 2009 20:08)

It will never grow enough.
Shrinking will come later.

"It will never grow enough.
Shrinking will come later."
(Peggy, 27 May 2009 04:08)

If by "shrinking" you mean Kosova will join Albania you are right on that. What you are hoping might have a domino effect like Kosova's independence.