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Sunday, 24.05.2009.

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Saudi Kosovo proposal fails at OIC

A draft resolution tabled by Saudi Arabia, calling for recognition of Kosovo, has been rejected at the OIC meeting in Damascus, Syria.

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Ardian

pre 14 godina

FACT:


Organisation of the Islamic Conference (23-25 May 2009)

RESOLUTIONS ON POLITICAL AFFAIRS ADOPTED BY THE 36TH SESSION OF THE COUNCIL OF FOREIGN MINISTERS JEDDAH, KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA (23-25 MAY, 2009)

Source: http://www.oic-oci.org/36cfm/w/en/res/36CFM-POL-RES-FINAL.pdf (page 33)

RESOLUTION NO. 14/36-POL ON THE SITUATION IN KOSOVO
The Thirty-Sixth Session of the Council of Foreign Ministers (Session of Enhancing Islamic Solidarity), held in Damascus, Syrian Arab Republic from 28 Jamadul Awal – 1 Jamadul Thani 1430 .H (23-25 May 2009);

Guided by the principles and purposes of the Charter of the United Nations, the Charter of the OIC, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenants on Human Rights, the Geneva Conventions of August 1949, 1951 as well as other instruments of international law;

Upholding the role of the U.N. in the peaceful settlement of disputes and maintenance of international peace and security;

Referring to the UN Security Council Resolutions No.1160 (of 31st of March 1998), No.1999 (of 23rd September 1998) No. 1203 (of 24th October 1998) No.1239 (of 14 May 1999) and 1244 of 10th of June 1999 and the relevant statements of its President.

Referring to Resolution No. 16/31 adopted at the Thirty-first Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers held in Istanbul on 14-16 June 2004; the Resolution No.36/34 of the 34th Session of the ICFM, Islamabad, 15-17 May 2007; the Final Communiqué of the 11th OIC Summit, Dakar, 13-14 March 2008; the Declaration of the OIC Ministerial Meeting in Kampala in June 2008 and in New York in September 2008 where is noted the Declaration of Independence by the Assembly of Kosovo of 17
February 2008;

Reaffirming the strong interest of OIC regarding the Muslims in the Balkans, and the importance of the stability in the whole Balkan region;

1. Takes note of the progress made towards strengthening the democracy in Kosovo, serving peace and stability in Kosovo and the whole region.

2. Further takes note of the accelerated UN Mission’s reconfiguration, deployment of EULEX throughout Kosovo, in compliance with UN Secretary General’s guidelines and the current Kosovo institutional and legal framework.

3. Welcomes the cooperation of Kosovo with the OIC Economic and Financial institutions, and calls on the international community, to continue contributing to the fostering of the Kosovo’s economy.

4. Requests the Secretary General to follow up the implementation of the present resolution, and to submit a report thereon to the 37th Session of the Council of Foreign Ministers.

Dulo

pre 14 godina

Mr Jeremic,

But what exactly did you win today? Surely you thought that your voice and Russia's voice will be stronger then Saudis, Bahrain's, Turkey's, Albania's etc?

(I think not, you know as well as anyone in the world that OIC will not reject Kosova)

It was a very cheap spin you pulled on readers, your voters, and to the serbian media?


But on the other hand I do understand you, as no matter how hard you try and no matter what you try, you just can not reverse the time that made Kosova what it is today. I am not Serb but if those countries of the OIC start recognising Kosova, I should get the very message you are sending by now.

All it is lost regarding Kosova, hope your voters are realising as your job has proven to be one of the most difficult jobs in the whole of Europe. Brick wall everywhere you go, oh I do understand you mate...

Filip

pre 14 godina

The Resolution proposed by Saudi Arabia is aproved!

Thank you Saudi Arabia, Thank you muslim countries!

So it was untrue that the resolution was rejected!

timotimekvej

pre 14 godina

Some albanian posters here are trying to fool themselves and others saying that PM Jeremic failed. Yes, resolution of Saudia Arabia was adopted, but with certain changes thats PM Jeremics point!

stari_vujadin

pre 14 godina

Keywords: rule effectively, without violence, 2 million Albanians.

(fufi, 25 May 2009 00:20)

fufi -
1) we don't want to rule you, which is why serbia is a democratic nation.
2) there shouldn't be violenece if everything is done ACCORDING TO LAW
3) 2 million albanians wouldn't be against having a job, heat and electricity - just the few thousand extremists that woulnd't be able to push their 'products' as effectively

Hekruan

pre 14 godina

The only OIC members that will stand behind Serbia will be Azerbaijan, Egypt, Syria and The Russian Puppets (Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan and Tajakistan).

Like Joe Biden said: "Independence is irreversible"

Joe

pre 14 godina

Now after the adoption of the OIC resolution Jeremic s/b called the minister of desinformation. And some Serbs want to see such a man as their future PM or president.

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

OIC resolution for Kosovo passed without deleting the sentence "Recognize Kosovo". So what exactly did Saudi Arabia, Albania and Turkey failed with? Let's see if B92 publish this news.

Amir

pre 14 godina

BTW:
With Jeremic's performance lately, I'm have strong believes that he must have met Mr. Pacolli somewhere, cuz he is becoming Mr. Hyseni's right hand man...

gjon cima

pre 14 godina

It seems the resolution was approved today with full votes.

Far from sounding victorious I invite you guys to work for joining the EU together. We'll surely be better off.

fufi

pre 14 godina

"And what Croatia can effectively and without violence go back into Eastern Slavonia after SEVEN YEARS of serbian self-government on this territory (1991-1998??)"






I'm sorry, but your attempt to answer a complex question has led you to giving a simple answer. Your answer makes absolutely no sense in relation to Kosovo, specifically. I could care less about Slovenia and Croatia. They don't apply here.

Nobody else?

Alright then, if nobody can answer it, then what are you fighting for?

albano

pre 14 godina

So , B92 what happend, no update, on the resolution today, or just trying to avoid that, so Mr. Jeremic, dont blush?
OK if you did not get the news yet, resolution, is not chnaged at all, and for the Jeremic sake past.
It looks , you next headline today will be "Jermeic the worst FM of Serbia"

Pz

pre 14 godina

Blerim, Kosovo is not a religious country as you try to present it. No religion is ‘state official religion’.
Article 8 of Kosovo Constitution [Secular State]
“The Republic of Kosovo is a secular state and is neutral in matters of religious beliefs.”
So, what some here are referring "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM." Has more to do with the unity of all Albanians, regardless of their religious background, as the great poet/writer Vaso Pasha has put it in his famous poem. Further, in his poem he doesn’t refer to Albanians In plural but rather singular “Feja e shqiptarit…”, because nations are constituted from individuals, who can be Muslims, Christians, Orthodox, etc. and by this he wanted to rise the awareness of all Albanians not ot fight each other on the religious basis, because that was the intention of the enemies "divide and conquer/rule"

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Marinels: "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM."

This foolishness must stop at once! How do you expect the IOC to support us if people make irresponsible and untrue statements like this. The Qu'ran states that the apostate is more damned than the infidel and you want to tell the world that Kosova is a state of apostasy. Islam, not albanism (a secular concept) is the religion of Kosova.
(Blerim, 25 May 2009 12:06)"

Thank you for clearing this long-time misconception. This is what many of us have known or suspected for a very long time, but it has been denied by many as well. It is not going to change anything, but at least it will be easier to post a link like this one and use it to our "advantage".

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1363436/posts

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Tell me how Serbia can effectively and without violence go back into Kosovo and be able to control 2 million rowdy Albanians who have gotten a taste of independence for over a year. "

And what Croatia can effectively and without violence go back into Eastern Slavonia after SEVEN YEARS of serbian self-government on this territory (1991-1998??

Rod

pre 14 godina

>>It's interesting that we arrived at the same position by different historical routes - different groups of Albanians assumed different religions at different times, while America was built up of different peoples, each of which had its characteristic religion

Blerim

pre 14 godina

Marinels: "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM."

This foolishness must stop at once! How do you expect the IOC to support us if people make irresponsible and untrue statements like this. The Qu'ran states that the apostate is more damned than the infidel and you want to tell the world that Kosova is a state of apostasy. Islam, not albanism (a secular concept) is the religion of Kosova.

Flamur Kosova

pre 14 godina

Every time I read Mr Jeremic's comments and then Serb's camp on this forum, it reminds me of Mr Comic Ali from Iraq. Actually he was Iraqi's Information Minister.

Adnan Dema, Lund (SWE)

pre 14 godina

#Peggy

I am muslim , my brother is christian catholic and my sister is christian orthodox. Our family is Albanian family! BTW, I am Kosovar...

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Which 19 countries are going to recognize Kosovo?

Here is what they think.

http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=4486

Doesn't sound like a tsunami of recognitions is going to come in.

Master ks

pre 14 godina

What Jeremic is doing is to fight up to the least bullet!!!
Recall something interesting that for those countries that were able to recognize Kosova they will definitely do it soon. Since the situation became to recognize or not and for those countries which were expecting some moves on that direction, think that it is enough impulse to recognize the NEWBORN.

According to new history every time when Jeremic tried to destroy any moves for Kosova he received any boomerang!!! Isn't so?

Pro-Serbia

pre 14 godina

Another victory for Serbia and also there are still a majority of muslim countries still believes that the UN is the proper forum to resolve the separatism problem like the serbian province of kosovo.

AgIm

pre 14 godina

"but it will still not provide access to the EU, UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC, and so on. This limbo situation is going to last for a long time."

EU does not depend on you at all. The same with UN etc, they depend on Russia, not you. Loyalty is not in the Russian dictionary. We maybe in limbo but so will you EU application

Nadeem

pre 14 godina

Understandably it's ironic enough that some predominantly Muslim nations refuse to recognize Kosovo's independence but what's worse is if these predominantly Muslim nations support or supported anti-Albanian regimes in Serbia.

Rod

pre 14 godina

Actually Amer, the USA was built by decendents of western europeans on the dead bodies of the native americans, through a policy known as manifest destiny, which is basically a nice word for genocide. In 1776 there were approx 6 million native americans living on the territory of what is now the continental United States.
Total this number is less than 900,000. The remaining native americans today live on what are known as reservations, which are essentially fenced in areas of desert, or other non ariable worthless patches of land, where nothing will grow, and there is no game left to hunt. In other words, the entire native american way of life was destroyed - this of course was a natural balance with nature, via give and take relationship with the land. Now native american reservations are forced to build casinos or sell their women off in brothels just to make ends meat to survive.

Coincidentally, this shameful
and undeniable truth about the USA draws an interesting parallel whith daily living conditions faced b Serbs, Roma, Gorani, and other non-albanians living in kosovo today. Its no wonder why albanians like you idolize the usa so much.

pss

pre 14 godina

Amer, I truly loved your comment.
Peggy for once I think you are 100% right. The negatives from the OIC are more anti-American and not pro Serbian point of views.

peter, sydney

pre 14 godina

Mike:
Read this article & associated comments with some amusement a while back & yes, originally it was only about the proposal as such.

And see lots of budding spin doctors have been busy downplaying the result since.


L*O*G*I*C & others:
19 new recognitions coming soon from the OIC conference? Surely you realise this twaddle is only for the gullible'.

And before you put your belief in someone like Hyseni, suggest you examine his track record - more likely he has been summoned to Washington for a detailed 'how to' list.


Beauty of Finland:
Am sure Finland has spectular scenary, much like Taiwan & just about any other place, but wouldn't bring up the topic of a comparison between Taiwan & self-styled 'Republic of Kosovo' if I were you.

Taiwan has in the past, been recognised by 58 countries. Now it is recognised by 22 (& not 25). 36 countries have withdrawn their recognition.

Including ALL of the G7.

Not that the G7 is really relevant these days as can't get anything done.

Is a lesson for the likes of Pacolli in this. Countries that are bribed to recognise a place cannot be expected to maintain their 'diplomatic stance' without further 'capital infusions'.

Have a nice day :)

Common sense

pre 14 godina

Will they(recognize),will they not,will they,will they not...!What is it to be so excited about,whether they will or will not recognize independence of Kosovo?The Master/King(Mr.J BIDEN,VP of THE USA,God bless them) of the World has spoken just 4-5 days ago,Quote:Kosovo is an Independent,Sovereign Country,the Independence is IRREVERSIBLE...!So,for this matter,don't waste your time anymore,the question is WHEN not "IF" Serbia & Russia will recognize it's Independence.As for OIC,they will recognize Kosovo's Independence very soon,all of them incl.Iran,Syria,Egypt,Algeria,Titos DOG ghadafi's Lybia etc.

johny

pre 14 godina

Somebody here said:
"I don't care if every Islamic nation does so, if every Western nation does so, unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo as independent, it's not independent. It's delusional to believe other..."

According to you, If everyone else in the world recognizes Kosova but Serbia doesn't then it is still not independent. I don't know whether you are being sarcastic or you mean it.

Mark

pre 14 godina

If it weren't for some US officials doing your bidding, you'd have zero recognitions except for Albania. This is a loss for you and you cannot spin it any other way.
(Daniel, 24 May 2009 23:48)

If it wasn't for Russia you wouldn't have been in the game as of now.NIS is the word.You cannot spin it any other way.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'your religion is not Islam but Albanianism (whatever that means)'

To an American this idea of an identity above religious identification seems obvious because we look at things the same way, with our "American civic religion." When an American leader wants to unite the people of this diverse nation he appeals to our common ideals and shared history, not to particular religious values.

It's interesting that we arrived at the same position by different historical routes - different groups of Albanians assumed different religions at different times, while America was built up of different peoples, each of which had its characteristic religion. The end result seems to be similar, though.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 14 godina

While many lament at Jeremic, every Serb should commend him for the hard work he is undertaking to defend, that what is ours. A true leader - who in the future (would not surprise me if within less than five years or more) becomes president or prime minister of Serbia.

Milan

pre 14 godina

The Albanian visitors have a point here that even though the resolution was rejected individual countries may, under Saudi pressure or bribery, decide to recognize anyway. Twenty or so more countries would be a big improvement, but it will still not provide access to the EU, UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC, and so on. This limbo situation is going to last for a long time.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

America is pushing for recognition because of their interests. Not too many islamic countries want to do what is in the interest of America, that's for certain.

Recognizing Kosovo IS in the interest of America so I think that this push for Islamic recognition is dead in the water.

So all you Albanians out there. Do make up your mind once and for all. Are you Muslim of Albanian? You keep saying how your religion is not Islam but Albanianism (whatever that means) in one breath and in the other you say that you our Muslim brothers. You change like the wind. Who can possible take your word for anything then. Many Islamic countries obviously think they can't.

fufi

pre 14 godina

What Serbs don't understand is the following.

If you can tell me how Serbia can ever rule Kosovo again, then I'll be on your side.

Tell me how Serbia can effectively and without violence go back into Kosovo and be able to control 2 million rowdy Albanians who have gotten a taste of independence for over a year.

Tell me how that is possible.

Keywords: rule effectively, without violence, 2 million Albanians.

If Serbia cannot do it, then it cannot have Kosovo. Just like it doesn't have Kosovo now.

You can talk about grand theories and recognitions and no UN membership. But at the end of the day, who cares? You want Kosovo as part of your country? Fine. But can you handle it with the above-mentioned conditions?

If you can't do that, then what exactly are you fighting for?

Or do you enjoy having 2 million Albanians fight you again until you resort to ethnic cleansing and NATO countries (Albania itself included this time) bomb you again?

Argo

pre 14 godina

I'm sorry but I don't know how acurate is this story but already 19 country are preparing to announce recognition of Kosova as a independent state so if I'm wrong let see by Tuesday what really it will happen..

Daniel

pre 14 godina

To attain mental health one must accept reality. The reality is that unless Serbia accepts Kosovo as independent it is not independent. Many nations will never recognize Kosovo as an independent nation unless Serbia does. I don't care if every Islamic nation does so, if every Western nation does so, unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo as independent, it's not independent. It's delusional to believe other so. I read that one mental midget believes that Kosovo will attain many recognitions soon, but where does that delusional idea come from? Why do you think Kosovo will attain further recognitions beyond a few more? It's been a year and nearly six months and there are only 60 recognitions? Where is the unanimous support? Does the world believe the putrid lie of Kosovo Albanian suffering? I doubt it. It seems like you are going nowhere with your delusions. So sorry to disappoint you but Mr. Jeremic is doing an excellent job and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Too bad you don't have a diplomat as skilled as Jeremic on your side. You depend on others to do your work for you because your so called leaders are powerless to attain recognitions. If it weren't for some US officials doing your bidding, you'd have zero recognitions except for Albania. This is a loss for you and you cannot spin it any other way.

EA

pre 14 godina

As I said in my previous comment the will of majority should prevail and will prevail. I can see that the Serbian panel is getting carried away. One THING is for CERTAIN. There is NO RETURN to Serbia! What Serbia is trying to do is damage to maximum Kosova's prosperity and stability. I can not get Serbian "fight" to stop the UNSTOPABLE. The forced marrage is finished.

village-bey

pre 14 godina

Lack of sportsmanship from my Albanian brothers and sisters. Let’s grant this round to our Serbian friends. Has been a while since they heard any good news.

timotimekvej

pre 14 godina

Countries like Iran or Syria strongly opposed Saudi Kosovo proposal!
If the Serbs here want to celebrate "victory" i'm happy for Kosovo to not get recognised by these countries.

You are happy because kosovo&metohija wasnt recognised by more countries?What if some countries decide to take back their recognitions of Kosovo&Metohija will you also be happy like now?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Another devastating defeat for the Kosovo Albanians and a diplomatic triumph for Serbia. Vuk Jeremic must be the most skilled and consummate politician in this Serbian government and I applaud him.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 24 May 2009 19:26)

You are right there Tom. This was another thunderous defeat for the Albanian irrientist plan to steal 15% of Serbia's territory. Pristina was hoping for the resoultion to pass, it didnt. Serbia has a sizeable chunk of solid support in the OIC (the Maghreb countries, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran, Kuwait, Indonesia, etc.) and that is down to the sterling work of Vuk Jeremic.

The fact that the Albanians on this site constantly ridicule the man's good character and talk about "moving onto the Carribean countries" where no doubt the usual strong arm tactics of coercion, cajoling only highlights the moral bankruptcy of the Greater Albanian argument.

Well done Vuk. One day your work will pay off when Kosmet is rightfully returned to Serbia, its history and heritage to be shared by all the Serbian poeple, irrespective of their ethnicity.

Beauty of Finland

pre 14 godina

In just over 1 year since Kosovo's independence 1/3 of the world has recognized it, including nations that make up over 70% of the world's GDP. A total of 60 nations.

If you ask me, to have those kinds of results in such short time is amazing.

Even Taiwan, which separated from China since the Second World War, only has 25 countries recognizing it so far.

Within the next couple of weeks to less than a couple of months it is expected that about 10 more recognitions will be announced.

And most of those announcements will come from OIC countries.

Great job Kosovo!

L*O*G*I*C

pre 14 godina

Are we absolutely sure it failed?

I see no failure.

MFA Hyseni was in Washington holding a meeting with representatives of 30 countries.

We are being informed 19 OIC countries are recognizing. Again, what failure?

How the rhetoric is changing in beograd. Now the main message coming is as "to prevent further recognitions". What happened to those "de-recognitions"?


Back to the OIC meeting. It was very important that the resolution was brought up. Just Kosova being discussed is a step closer to receiving recognitions.

Either way, this isn't the only resolution, I am certain another resolution will be brought up, and another, and another. Now do you understand why I say time is on our side?

Vera

pre 14 godina

Well, Serbia, the shining beacon fighting for Christianity against the invading Islam. Thanks Iran, Egypt and Syria for this continuation... Now, Visa-free regime for Serbians in Middle-East.

Alahu akbar...oh sorry, God bless Ahjamdinejad, God bless Iran.

demo

pre 14 godina

So mr jeremic you are loosing money and everyday losing more and more just to do something against kosova, so instead of working against kosovo you are working against your own people. Kosovo is a state they don't care about serbia anymore everything is split up with serbia, but jeri and the others spending and spending until finally not only other countries but serbia itself will be pushed by its own becoming poor people from their politicians will recognize kosovo. Do not even dream that you can push muslim brothers against kosovo.
Hail Arabia-Kosovo-USA.

johny

pre 14 godina

First of all, for any resolution to pass the OIC every member should vote for it, meaning not even one NO votes for any resolution to pass. Albania, Turkey and Saudi Arabia knew this very well when the process started.
Second the resolution has been amended but not put to a vote yet. That will happen tomorrow (Monday). We knew from the begining that Syria and Egypt will vote NO, so the resolution will not pass. However that was not the goal of this resolution, meaning the ultimate goal was not for it to pass. The goal was to test waters. Put recognition in the agenda, and while the meeting is taking place talk individually to every member state of the OIC and with the help of Turkey and Saudi Arabia lobby for the recognition by as many of them as possible. The goal was for the government of the member states to put Kosova's recognition on their agenda. I think that has been achieved. Sources from Saudi Arabia foreign ministry state that there will be 19 recognitions from OIC member states in the coming days after the meeting. Considering that our goal was not to achieve a unanimous recognition from the organisation since that was impossible from the start, I'd say we didn't do that bad, having in mind that there will be other meetings and that Albania, Turkey and Saudi Arabia will push for more recognitions in every meeting. One also cannot help but feel a little more confident when Jeremic says he is successful since if we were to judge by past history, it has always backfired on him. Good news is that there's more recognition. Next time there will be pictures of the Mosques the Serbian state and army destroyed in Kosova. We haven't put all our cards on the table yet.

P.S Forget the observant sit. Albania will veto it every time.

Phyrric Victory

pre 14 godina

"Jeremić pointed out that this is considered "yet another important diplomatic victory for Serbia"."

Poor Jeremic, he keeps gettign victory victory. Kosova gettign in IMF was another great victory him, just as customs strengthening north. Any resolution requires 100% vote, we knew that at least one (Iran for example) would never vote for it, the idea is to start the debate and get recognition by about half of the Arabs. Next we move in the Caribbean islands...We already have 60, we need 38 more to start pressure at UN.

The more Serbia goes against US /EU leaders in the world, worst it is for you. Things have a way of grinding to a halt in EU if France, UK and Germany want, regardless of what they say in public.

Mark

pre 14 godina

Jeremić pointed out that this is considered "yet another important diplomatic victory for Serbia".

Why is it a victory? You serbs say that even if Kosovo gets 191 recognitions it still not going to be considered independent without Serbia's agreement. So why do you bother trying to convince the world that independence is illegal when you already have the almighty power to stop it? There is always something funny happening when Jeremic declares his diplomatic victories.Wait and see.

ToniUK

pre 14 godina

Several Serb media have been misinforming the public about the outcome of the vote at the OIC. Internal confirmation that NKR has received from the Kosovo Government, several Muslim countries' governments and officials at OIC, the resolution is going to be reviewed on Monday. Meanwhile, 19 Muslim nations are preparing to announce recognition of Kosovo as independent and sovereign state.

pilaf

pre 14 godina

Now OIC countries will make their individual decisions on whether to recognize Kosovo or not.

Of course the resolution would fail because Saudi Arabia and Turkey are pro-Kosovo while Egypt and Syria are against Kosovo.

Just like the EU couldn't find a common language on whether or not to recognize Kosovo, it came down to individual EU countries making that decision. And the result was that 22 out of 27 recognized.

Now, we'll see how many OIC countries will recognize Kosovo and how many will not.

Jeremic is so desperate that he calls even an obviously ambiguous decision by the OIC a "diplomatic victory", hanging by the thinnest of threads. I guarantee you that within ten days at least one or two of the OIC countries will recognize Kosovo. History has proven that everytime Jeremic says something, usually a country or two recognize Kosovo soon after.

Thank you Saudi Arabia and Turkey for lobbying for Kosovo.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 14 godina

Another devastating defeat for the Kosovo Albanians and a diplomatic triumph for Serbia. Vuk Jeremic must be the most skilled and consummate politician in this Serbian government and I applaud him.

Jarina

pre 14 godina

Several Serb media has been misinforming the public about the outcome of the vote at the OIC. Internal confirmation that NKR has received from the Kosovo Government, several Muslim countries' governments and officials at OIC, the resolution is going to be reviewed on Monday. Meanwhile, 19 Muslim nations are preparing to announce recognition of Kosovo as inpendent and sovereign state.

Milan

pre 14 godina

UN membership is far and far... Kosovo will be in next years "ghost state" without rights...

Probably albanian leaders not thinking about this scenario before UDI ;)

Rod

pre 14 godina

Great work from Serbias FM Jeremic. This is another international victory for Serbia, and a horrible faiure for Albanians and the other subjects of the new world order aka anglo/american empire. Even the Albanians muslim brothers realize that kosovo is NOT independent, but instead recognize kosovo for what it really is - occupied Serbian territory where the anglo-american empire/fourth reich have established a puppet regime to serve their own misguided, self-serving interests.

Albanians from kosovo keep coming here and bragging about all of the so-called international support they are recieving, yet in reality Serbia consistently defeats their illegitimate goals in every international forum. That is the reality of the situation, and I have every confidence that the ICJ decision will be in Serbias favor.

Again congratulations to Serbia and especially Vuk Jeremic on a job well done.
Kosovo je Srbija!

Amer

pre 14 godina

So what actually happened?

'Saudi Kosovo proposal fails at OIC

The document was put up for a vote during the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) ministerial gathering this Sunday.'

Implying the Serbs succeeded in preventing a resolution to recognize Kosovo, and Mr. Jeremic was successful. Okay, clear enough.

'But..'

But?

'... Serbian FM Vuk Jeremić stated today that Syria, Egypt, Azerbaijan and some other member states submitted amendments to the resolution, so that the text that has been adopted does not call for Kosovo Albanian unilateral declaration of independence to be recognized, nor does it mention Kosovo's "statehood".'

What's this 'text that has been adopted,' then? Sounds like it's not all over, after all: there will be a resolution that will avoid the word 'Kosovo' while everybody knows what is meant?

I can just imagine the day Kosovo joins the UN and the headlines read 'Jeremic wins! Comma removed from third paragraph!'

london

pre 14 godina

Isn't it wonderful how this ''news source'' makes it out as if Serbia had anything to do with the votes outcome! Do the editors seriously think the readers are morons? Hope not. Nevertheless, Kosovo's independence recognitions keep rising...

Mike

pre 14 godina

In reading the article and then deciding against my better judgement to read the comments, I noted a rather large discrepancy between what the article said - Saudi proposal fails at the OIC - and the Albanian comments - yay! we're #1 and Jeremic is a jerk.

I can only surmise two things. First, the failed recognition came recently and the article originally started off as something like "Saudi Arabia proposes recognition bill at OIC", hence the overabundance of excited Albanians at the start. Or second, Albanians are so blissfully ignorant of even the most objective truth that they'll still say recognitions are coming their way even after it won't - similar to Hash's idiotic statements of expecting a Russian recognition soon and imminent EU membership (which, if I might add, are 10 times more stupid than anything Jeremic is accused by his detractors of saying).

Whatever the reason, this is just the latest example of someone else doing what should be the work of Kosovo Albanians. And suddenly, after all these years of being reminded that Albanians really aren't Muslim, or don't regard Islam as that much of a factor, it suddenly becomes such an important issue if the mother of all Islamic countries speaks up on its behalf.

Shakespeare couldn't write a tragic comedy this good.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Serbs are happy a day like this while Albanians were happy a week ago when an island no one ever heard of recognized Kosovo. However, all these recognitions and non-recognitions don't actually count. They don't change the facts on the ground. The fact is that Kosovo today is partitioned and will remain partitioned until there is a negotiated settlement. So much fuzz over nothing.

Ilir

pre 14 godina

Countries like Iran or Syria strongly opposed Saudi Kosovo proposal!
If the Serbs here want to celebrate "victory" i'm happy for Kosovo to not get recognised by these countries.
Please don't start writting nonsence about the Serb diplomatic skills. Do you know that the western diplomats refuse to meet with Jeremic due to his low communication skills and rudeness.
So much so, that now in Brussel Jeremic is the joke of the Balkans.

Joe

pre 14 godina

CG,

Wow! I didn't know that we Americans had some 60 colonies. According to your logic all the countries, who recognized Kosovo so far are American colonies. It also implies that after more future recognitions we will have even more colonies. Not bad for a country that is considered by some antiamericans being in declin.

6 Points Victory

pre 14 godina

This is even better, here's why:
A resolution means nothing (EU MPs passed one too), those that want to recognize will recognize, but now the Saudis will use their wallets to get back at Serbia by strong arming the leaning countries. This is Russia vs US.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

I think you should be fired immediately.
Kosova-USA

Well of course you do! Thank's to Jeriemic it only 60 "recognitions".
Keep up the good work Jeremic! Serbs support you 100%.

Mark

pre 14 godina

If the resolution had passed didn't mean automatic recognition by the OIC members it is still a decision to be taken by each country separately. Apart from the the countries that we already know that contest Kosovo independence.How many of the undecided ones Jeremic thinks will not recognize Kosovo in the near future?

Marinels

pre 14 godina

“It failed and most likely not because of Jeremic's efforts (but you cannot exclude that completely), but because most sensible Islamic countries do not want to be associated with this American project and because Albanians have proven to have terrible diplomatic skills.”

Look at how funny the Serbs try to shift the things from an issue to another. I would doubt very much that your “hero” Jeremic contributed for this project to fail. More than “our Muslim brothers” I think that your Russian orthodox brother made the things more complex by considering that within OIC there are some Russian lapdogs which can not escape the past. In such organization with 57 members even with one vote against any project can fail. As for Albanian diplomatic skills, the one who travels continually around the world doesn’t mean that has more diplomatic skills. But hey this time u used the telephone to achieve you goals. To conclude, there are much more Christian countries pro Kosovo than Muslim countries against it. We thank them all for the support.

“Of course they cannot curse them for failing, because earlier today they were glorifying them and all other Islamic countries and emphasizing that they are all Muslim brothers and so on”

The opinions of the individuals don’t make the things the way you wish to be. You have the answer in some comments above. The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM.

“Maybe if the Albanians had shown some open support for an independent Palestine (and hereby openly going against their American masters and their Israeli allies (remember that on the American list of favorite countries Israel will ALWAYS be above Albania and Kosovo)) you guys might have had more chance and hereby prove that you are true Muslims in the eyes of your fellow Islamic worshipers”.

That is very laughable. Now you turn in the position of the one who gives the perfect solutions for the problem. Our loyalty to US has roots many years ago and we fully respect it. As close we are with US so far you Serbs will be in coming years at least. For you interest you have proved to support and be supported by totalitarians regimes not only in the Middle East but around the world. We keep always our eyes open. By the way why should Albanian be necessary on the top list of favorites!! We are not on the top but for sure much closer than Serbia and your lapdogs. There are some million Jews in USA associated with important positions in many areas. They of course deserve the first place.

Yesterday I read an article about how the drug addicted patients were treated in Serbia especially by the church. Similar methods use you friends Russia and Iran so you have to walk on the same line. God bless USA who helped us to be never ever under Serbian anymore.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Bravo Saudi Arabia.Long life Saudi Arabia.Muslim brothers 4 evee
(NoolaV, 24 May 2009 11:28)"

Saudi Arabia failed.
Muslim brothers don't like "independent" Kosovo?? ;)

Milan

pre 14 godina

It failed and most likely not because of Jeremic's efforts (but you cannot exclude that completely), but because most sensible Islamic countries do not want to be associated with this American project and because Albanians have proven to have terrible diplomatic skills. I am sure that the Albanians will thank Saudi Arabia and others for their efforts. Of course they cannot curse them for failing, because earlier today they were glorifying them and all other Islamic countries and emphasizing that they are all Muslim brothers and so on. I am mature enough not to rob this in your faces as being some kind of victory for Serbia or a defeat for Kosovo. The EU and especially the UN are far far away. Maybe if the Albanians had shown some open support for an independent Palestine (and hereby openly going against their American masters and their Israeli allies (remember that on the American list of favorite countries Israel will ALWAYS be above Albania and Kosovo)) you guys might have had more chance and hereby prove that you are true Muslims in the eyes of your fellow Islamic worshipers. It is all politics and interests.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

I congratulate to Mr. Jeremic another diplomatic victory.
This is our troublemaker boy (as Biden put it) that we are very proud of.
Some like to call him little Wolf, but little Wolf seems to be very poisonous.
He deserves deepest respect from every Serb.

Thank you Vuk!

BalkanUpdate

pre 14 godina

Vuk doesn't sound very optimistic. I don't know how OIC adopts its resolutions, but if they do by simple majority this resolution will win out. Notice how Vuk says his goal is to amend the resolution, not block it.How do you amend something the sole purpose of which is to call on others to recognize Kosovo? This either passes or doesn't. The good news is that Kosovo has friends ( S.Arabia,Turkey,Albania) in there who are willing to go to bat for her whereas Serbia doesn't.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

Its about time the west stood behind its christian brothers.
(dave(UK), 24 May 2009 11:42)

Christianity is on the decline in the West and especially in Britain mate. Atheism will soon be more popular in the West.

48 hours for nothing! from the 57 countrys of the OIC at least 52 will sure recognize kosovo 13 countrys of the OIC have always recognized kosovos independence including the most powerful islamic country in the world with is Saudi-Arabia and where mekka and medina are located
(dan-ch, 24 May 2009 12:14)

I highly doubt 52 of the 57 members will recognise Kosovo. The former Soviet Muslim countries will not recognise Kosovo, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Palestine will all defiantly not recognise Kosovo.

CG

pre 14 godina

It really amuzes me how the Albanians celebrate every recognition by a American colony or island you never heard of.
It shows their desperation combined with the constant attacks on our brilliant FM Jeremic.
Their leaders 1 1/2 years in every opportunity like to stress how our province is "independent",total desperation.
They perfectly know that Serbian integrity is still valid according to 1244(all Albanians hate this number),that all international organizations are forever blocked by our powerful allies and that this has been only cemented by the recognition of Abkhazia by Russia and other countries.
We managed to turn it into a black hole with no future,de facto occupied(let the KFOR deal with them)de jure Serbian and we will keep it that way.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Bravo Saudi Arabia.Long life Saudi Arabia.Muslim brothers 4 evee
(NoolaV, 24 May 2009 11:28)"

I thought that the secular Albanian Muslims did not want to be associated with the orthodox Muslims in places like Saudi Arabia. This was of course to assure the naive Europeans that the are moderate and so on. Comments like the one above show the opposite with is closest to the truth. Most Albanians that post their comments here are typical Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde characters: just wear the mask that is the most beneficial at the moment. I have to admit that Getting support from these Islamic countries will be a big boost for the Albanian moral, but it will not affect the Serbian moral. We know it is a long and hard struggle that requires patience and a long breath. But you know what, when your pride, culture, and history are at stake you will find the energy, will, and strength to accomplish the seemingly impossible.

Tunxh

pre 14 godina

Vuk Jeremic stated:
"It's hard to predict the outcome of the vote, but we hope for the best," stressed Jeremić, and explained that as Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering. "

The above passage is composed of diplomatic language, which never means what it states. Essentially, Jeremic is leaving himself a backdoor from which he can jump ship should the Conference decide to go ahead with the recognitions. He is saying that "we tried, but you never know, and Serbia can't influence the conference much since we are not members." Well Mr. Jeremic, let me remind you that Albania is a member, so unlike you, they have a full vote in the conference, as well as lobbying power, being that they are the only European nation in the conference. Most Muslims will identify more with fellow Muslims than with Orthodox Christians...it's only natural. So as far as the islamic countries go, you are fighting a losing battle. Do you think Egypt will still stand by Serbia once Washington reminds in a late night phone call that they get more military aid from us than any other country besides Israel? You will be sold out faster than a Nintendo gamebox at a garage sale.

NoolaV

pre 14 godina

So sory Jeremic!! So sory.but this resolution will pass,and 40 Islamic countries will recognise Muslim country Kosovo.Thank you Saudi Arabia and Albania.

dan-ch

pre 14 godina

"The minister said on Saturday evening that he had spent the previous 48 hours "constantly on the phone with those OIC countries that support Serbia's position".

48 hours for nothing! from the 57 countrys of the OIC at least 52 will sure recognize kosovo 13 countrys of the OIC have always recognized kosovos independence including the most powerful islamic country in the world with is Saudi-Arabia and where mekka and medina are located

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"The minister said on Saturday evening that he had spent the previous 48 hours "constantly on the phone with those OIC countries that support Serbia's position".

I wonder if Mr. Jeremic speak arabian, or maybe only Farsi since Iran is a close friend of Serbia.

EA

pre 14 godina

"It calls upon Islamic countries to "immediately recognize Kosovo".

Nice move but at least the will of majority of countries should PREVAIL. That is THE BASIC in a democratic society.

"Saudi Arabia's "aggressive address which asked the 57 OIC members to immediately recognize Kosovo...".

What is the Serbia's address wen it comes to Kosova? Gentle, kind....? Agressiviness came come accross even on the phone....24 hours a day.

".. but we hope for the best,""...Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering."

We all hope for the BEST but what would be the best?

Will Serbia still apply to become and observer in the Organisation even if this Organisation vote doesn't go Serbia's best hope?

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

Jeremić specified that the conference started with Saudi Arabia's "aggressive address which asked the 57 OIC members to immediately recognize Kosovo in the name of support to their Muslim brothers".


It's true that everytime Jeremic opens his mouth there is or are new recognitions.

Thank you Saudi Arabia for your efforts but I must remind you that Albanian religion is Albanianism.

Imagine 50 countires out of 57 went ahed with their Kosova recognitions?.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"It's hard to predict the outcome of the vote, but we hope for the best," stressed Jeremić, and explained that as Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering.

Keep hoping Mr. Jeremic, but don't forget that I think you are the big JINX and bad OMEN for Serbia. Every time you opened your mouth about recogntions, it always came the opposite of what you said. I think you should be fired immediately.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"It's hard to predict the outcome of the vote, but we hope for the best," stressed Jeremić, and explained that as Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering.

Keep hoping Mr. Jeremic, but don't forget that I think you are the big JINX and bad OMEN for Serbia. Every time you opened your mouth about recogntions, it always came the opposite of what you said. I think you should be fired immediately.

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

Jeremić specified that the conference started with Saudi Arabia's "aggressive address which asked the 57 OIC members to immediately recognize Kosovo in the name of support to their Muslim brothers".


It's true that everytime Jeremic opens his mouth there is or are new recognitions.

Thank you Saudi Arabia for your efforts but I must remind you that Albanian religion is Albanianism.

Imagine 50 countires out of 57 went ahed with their Kosova recognitions?.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

I congratulate to Mr. Jeremic another diplomatic victory.
This is our troublemaker boy (as Biden put it) that we are very proud of.
Some like to call him little Wolf, but little Wolf seems to be very poisonous.
He deserves deepest respect from every Serb.

Thank you Vuk!

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"The minister said on Saturday evening that he had spent the previous 48 hours "constantly on the phone with those OIC countries that support Serbia's position".

I wonder if Mr. Jeremic speak arabian, or maybe only Farsi since Iran is a close friend of Serbia.

EA

pre 14 godina

"It calls upon Islamic countries to "immediately recognize Kosovo".

Nice move but at least the will of majority of countries should PREVAIL. That is THE BASIC in a democratic society.

"Saudi Arabia's "aggressive address which asked the 57 OIC members to immediately recognize Kosovo...".

What is the Serbia's address wen it comes to Kosova? Gentle, kind....? Agressiviness came come accross even on the phone....24 hours a day.

".. but we hope for the best,""...Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering."

We all hope for the BEST but what would be the best?

Will Serbia still apply to become and observer in the Organisation even if this Organisation vote doesn't go Serbia's best hope?

NoolaV

pre 14 godina

So sory Jeremic!! So sory.but this resolution will pass,and 40 Islamic countries will recognise Muslim country Kosovo.Thank you Saudi Arabia and Albania.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Bravo Saudi Arabia.Long life Saudi Arabia.Muslim brothers 4 evee
(NoolaV, 24 May 2009 11:28)"

Saudi Arabia failed.
Muslim brothers don't like "independent" Kosovo?? ;)

dan-ch

pre 14 godina

"The minister said on Saturday evening that he had spent the previous 48 hours "constantly on the phone with those OIC countries that support Serbia's position".

48 hours for nothing! from the 57 countrys of the OIC at least 52 will sure recognize kosovo 13 countrys of the OIC have always recognized kosovos independence including the most powerful islamic country in the world with is Saudi-Arabia and where mekka and medina are located

CG

pre 14 godina

It really amuzes me how the Albanians celebrate every recognition by a American colony or island you never heard of.
It shows their desperation combined with the constant attacks on our brilliant FM Jeremic.
Their leaders 1 1/2 years in every opportunity like to stress how our province is "independent",total desperation.
They perfectly know that Serbian integrity is still valid according to 1244(all Albanians hate this number),that all international organizations are forever blocked by our powerful allies and that this has been only cemented by the recognition of Abkhazia by Russia and other countries.
We managed to turn it into a black hole with no future,de facto occupied(let the KFOR deal with them)de jure Serbian and we will keep it that way.

Mike

pre 14 godina

In reading the article and then deciding against my better judgement to read the comments, I noted a rather large discrepancy between what the article said - Saudi proposal fails at the OIC - and the Albanian comments - yay! we're #1 and Jeremic is a jerk.

I can only surmise two things. First, the failed recognition came recently and the article originally started off as something like "Saudi Arabia proposes recognition bill at OIC", hence the overabundance of excited Albanians at the start. Or second, Albanians are so blissfully ignorant of even the most objective truth that they'll still say recognitions are coming their way even after it won't - similar to Hash's idiotic statements of expecting a Russian recognition soon and imminent EU membership (which, if I might add, are 10 times more stupid than anything Jeremic is accused by his detractors of saying).

Whatever the reason, this is just the latest example of someone else doing what should be the work of Kosovo Albanians. And suddenly, after all these years of being reminded that Albanians really aren't Muslim, or don't regard Islam as that much of a factor, it suddenly becomes such an important issue if the mother of all Islamic countries speaks up on its behalf.

Shakespeare couldn't write a tragic comedy this good.

Tunxh

pre 14 godina

Vuk Jeremic stated:
"It's hard to predict the outcome of the vote, but we hope for the best," stressed Jeremić, and explained that as Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering. "

The above passage is composed of diplomatic language, which never means what it states. Essentially, Jeremic is leaving himself a backdoor from which he can jump ship should the Conference decide to go ahead with the recognitions. He is saying that "we tried, but you never know, and Serbia can't influence the conference much since we are not members." Well Mr. Jeremic, let me remind you that Albania is a member, so unlike you, they have a full vote in the conference, as well as lobbying power, being that they are the only European nation in the conference. Most Muslims will identify more with fellow Muslims than with Orthodox Christians...it's only natural. So as far as the islamic countries go, you are fighting a losing battle. Do you think Egypt will still stand by Serbia once Washington reminds in a late night phone call that they get more military aid from us than any other country besides Israel? You will be sold out faster than a Nintendo gamebox at a garage sale.

Milan

pre 14 godina

It failed and most likely not because of Jeremic's efforts (but you cannot exclude that completely), but because most sensible Islamic countries do not want to be associated with this American project and because Albanians have proven to have terrible diplomatic skills. I am sure that the Albanians will thank Saudi Arabia and others for their efforts. Of course they cannot curse them for failing, because earlier today they were glorifying them and all other Islamic countries and emphasizing that they are all Muslim brothers and so on. I am mature enough not to rob this in your faces as being some kind of victory for Serbia or a defeat for Kosovo. The EU and especially the UN are far far away. Maybe if the Albanians had shown some open support for an independent Palestine (and hereby openly going against their American masters and their Israeli allies (remember that on the American list of favorite countries Israel will ALWAYS be above Albania and Kosovo)) you guys might have had more chance and hereby prove that you are true Muslims in the eyes of your fellow Islamic worshipers. It is all politics and interests.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

Its about time the west stood behind its christian brothers.
(dave(UK), 24 May 2009 11:42)

Christianity is on the decline in the West and especially in Britain mate. Atheism will soon be more popular in the West.

48 hours for nothing! from the 57 countrys of the OIC at least 52 will sure recognize kosovo 13 countrys of the OIC have always recognized kosovos independence including the most powerful islamic country in the world with is Saudi-Arabia and where mekka and medina are located
(dan-ch, 24 May 2009 12:14)

I highly doubt 52 of the 57 members will recognise Kosovo. The former Soviet Muslim countries will not recognise Kosovo, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Palestine will all defiantly not recognise Kosovo.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

I think you should be fired immediately.
Kosova-USA

Well of course you do! Thank's to Jeriemic it only 60 "recognitions".
Keep up the good work Jeremic! Serbs support you 100%.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Serbs are happy a day like this while Albanians were happy a week ago when an island no one ever heard of recognized Kosovo. However, all these recognitions and non-recognitions don't actually count. They don't change the facts on the ground. The fact is that Kosovo today is partitioned and will remain partitioned until there is a negotiated settlement. So much fuzz over nothing.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Another devastating defeat for the Kosovo Albanians and a diplomatic triumph for Serbia. Vuk Jeremic must be the most skilled and consummate politician in this Serbian government and I applaud him.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 24 May 2009 19:26)

You are right there Tom. This was another thunderous defeat for the Albanian irrientist plan to steal 15% of Serbia's territory. Pristina was hoping for the resoultion to pass, it didnt. Serbia has a sizeable chunk of solid support in the OIC (the Maghreb countries, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran, Kuwait, Indonesia, etc.) and that is down to the sterling work of Vuk Jeremic.

The fact that the Albanians on this site constantly ridicule the man's good character and talk about "moving onto the Carribean countries" where no doubt the usual strong arm tactics of coercion, cajoling only highlights the moral bankruptcy of the Greater Albanian argument.

Well done Vuk. One day your work will pay off when Kosmet is rightfully returned to Serbia, its history and heritage to be shared by all the Serbian poeple, irrespective of their ethnicity.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Bravo Saudi Arabia.Long life Saudi Arabia.Muslim brothers 4 evee
(NoolaV, 24 May 2009 11:28)"

I thought that the secular Albanian Muslims did not want to be associated with the orthodox Muslims in places like Saudi Arabia. This was of course to assure the naive Europeans that the are moderate and so on. Comments like the one above show the opposite with is closest to the truth. Most Albanians that post their comments here are typical Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde characters: just wear the mask that is the most beneficial at the moment. I have to admit that Getting support from these Islamic countries will be a big boost for the Albanian moral, but it will not affect the Serbian moral. We know it is a long and hard struggle that requires patience and a long breath. But you know what, when your pride, culture, and history are at stake you will find the energy, will, and strength to accomplish the seemingly impossible.

Vera

pre 14 godina

Well, Serbia, the shining beacon fighting for Christianity against the invading Islam. Thanks Iran, Egypt and Syria for this continuation... Now, Visa-free regime for Serbians in Middle-East.

Alahu akbar...oh sorry, God bless Ahjamdinejad, God bless Iran.

london

pre 14 godina

Isn't it wonderful how this ''news source'' makes it out as if Serbia had anything to do with the votes outcome! Do the editors seriously think the readers are morons? Hope not. Nevertheless, Kosovo's independence recognitions keep rising...

Marinels

pre 14 godina

“It failed and most likely not because of Jeremic's efforts (but you cannot exclude that completely), but because most sensible Islamic countries do not want to be associated with this American project and because Albanians have proven to have terrible diplomatic skills.”

Look at how funny the Serbs try to shift the things from an issue to another. I would doubt very much that your “hero” Jeremic contributed for this project to fail. More than “our Muslim brothers” I think that your Russian orthodox brother made the things more complex by considering that within OIC there are some Russian lapdogs which can not escape the past. In such organization with 57 members even with one vote against any project can fail. As for Albanian diplomatic skills, the one who travels continually around the world doesn’t mean that has more diplomatic skills. But hey this time u used the telephone to achieve you goals. To conclude, there are much more Christian countries pro Kosovo than Muslim countries against it. We thank them all for the support.

“Of course they cannot curse them for failing, because earlier today they were glorifying them and all other Islamic countries and emphasizing that they are all Muslim brothers and so on”

The opinions of the individuals don’t make the things the way you wish to be. You have the answer in some comments above. The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM.

“Maybe if the Albanians had shown some open support for an independent Palestine (and hereby openly going against their American masters and their Israeli allies (remember that on the American list of favorite countries Israel will ALWAYS be above Albania and Kosovo)) you guys might have had more chance and hereby prove that you are true Muslims in the eyes of your fellow Islamic worshipers”.

That is very laughable. Now you turn in the position of the one who gives the perfect solutions for the problem. Our loyalty to US has roots many years ago and we fully respect it. As close we are with US so far you Serbs will be in coming years at least. For you interest you have proved to support and be supported by totalitarians regimes not only in the Middle East but around the world. We keep always our eyes open. By the way why should Albanian be necessary on the top list of favorites!! We are not on the top but for sure much closer than Serbia and your lapdogs. There are some million Jews in USA associated with important positions in many areas. They of course deserve the first place.

Yesterday I read an article about how the drug addicted patients were treated in Serbia especially by the church. Similar methods use you friends Russia and Iran so you have to walk on the same line. God bless USA who helped us to be never ever under Serbian anymore.

Ilir

pre 14 godina

Countries like Iran or Syria strongly opposed Saudi Kosovo proposal!
If the Serbs here want to celebrate "victory" i'm happy for Kosovo to not get recognised by these countries.
Please don't start writting nonsence about the Serb diplomatic skills. Do you know that the western diplomats refuse to meet with Jeremic due to his low communication skills and rudeness.
So much so, that now in Brussel Jeremic is the joke of the Balkans.

Rod

pre 14 godina

Great work from Serbias FM Jeremic. This is another international victory for Serbia, and a horrible faiure for Albanians and the other subjects of the new world order aka anglo/american empire. Even the Albanians muslim brothers realize that kosovo is NOT independent, but instead recognize kosovo for what it really is - occupied Serbian territory where the anglo-american empire/fourth reich have established a puppet regime to serve their own misguided, self-serving interests.

Albanians from kosovo keep coming here and bragging about all of the so-called international support they are recieving, yet in reality Serbia consistently defeats their illegitimate goals in every international forum. That is the reality of the situation, and I have every confidence that the ICJ decision will be in Serbias favor.

Again congratulations to Serbia and especially Vuk Jeremic on a job well done.
Kosovo je Srbija!

Mark

pre 14 godina

Jeremić pointed out that this is considered "yet another important diplomatic victory for Serbia".

Why is it a victory? You serbs say that even if Kosovo gets 191 recognitions it still not going to be considered independent without Serbia's agreement. So why do you bother trying to convince the world that independence is illegal when you already have the almighty power to stop it? There is always something funny happening when Jeremic declares his diplomatic victories.Wait and see.

Beauty of Finland

pre 14 godina

In just over 1 year since Kosovo's independence 1/3 of the world has recognized it, including nations that make up over 70% of the world's GDP. A total of 60 nations.

If you ask me, to have those kinds of results in such short time is amazing.

Even Taiwan, which separated from China since the Second World War, only has 25 countries recognizing it so far.

Within the next couple of weeks to less than a couple of months it is expected that about 10 more recognitions will be announced.

And most of those announcements will come from OIC countries.

Great job Kosovo!

Milan

pre 14 godina

UN membership is far and far... Kosovo will be in next years "ghost state" without rights...

Probably albanian leaders not thinking about this scenario before UDI ;)

BalkanUpdate

pre 14 godina

Vuk doesn't sound very optimistic. I don't know how OIC adopts its resolutions, but if they do by simple majority this resolution will win out. Notice how Vuk says his goal is to amend the resolution, not block it.How do you amend something the sole purpose of which is to call on others to recognize Kosovo? This either passes or doesn't. The good news is that Kosovo has friends ( S.Arabia,Turkey,Albania) in there who are willing to go to bat for her whereas Serbia doesn't.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 14 godina

Are we absolutely sure it failed?

I see no failure.

MFA Hyseni was in Washington holding a meeting with representatives of 30 countries.

We are being informed 19 OIC countries are recognizing. Again, what failure?

How the rhetoric is changing in beograd. Now the main message coming is as "to prevent further recognitions". What happened to those "de-recognitions"?


Back to the OIC meeting. It was very important that the resolution was brought up. Just Kosova being discussed is a step closer to receiving recognitions.

Either way, this isn't the only resolution, I am certain another resolution will be brought up, and another, and another. Now do you understand why I say time is on our side?

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

OIC resolution for Kosovo passed without deleting the sentence "Recognize Kosovo". So what exactly did Saudi Arabia, Albania and Turkey failed with? Let's see if B92 publish this news.

Mark

pre 14 godina

If the resolution had passed didn't mean automatic recognition by the OIC members it is still a decision to be taken by each country separately. Apart from the the countries that we already know that contest Kosovo independence.How many of the undecided ones Jeremic thinks will not recognize Kosovo in the near future?

fufi

pre 14 godina

What Serbs don't understand is the following.

If you can tell me how Serbia can ever rule Kosovo again, then I'll be on your side.

Tell me how Serbia can effectively and without violence go back into Kosovo and be able to control 2 million rowdy Albanians who have gotten a taste of independence for over a year.

Tell me how that is possible.

Keywords: rule effectively, without violence, 2 million Albanians.

If Serbia cannot do it, then it cannot have Kosovo. Just like it doesn't have Kosovo now.

You can talk about grand theories and recognitions and no UN membership. But at the end of the day, who cares? You want Kosovo as part of your country? Fine. But can you handle it with the above-mentioned conditions?

If you can't do that, then what exactly are you fighting for?

Or do you enjoy having 2 million Albanians fight you again until you resort to ethnic cleansing and NATO countries (Albania itself included this time) bomb you again?

Amer

pre 14 godina

'your religion is not Islam but Albanianism (whatever that means)'

To an American this idea of an identity above religious identification seems obvious because we look at things the same way, with our "American civic religion." When an American leader wants to unite the people of this diverse nation he appeals to our common ideals and shared history, not to particular religious values.

It's interesting that we arrived at the same position by different historical routes - different groups of Albanians assumed different religions at different times, while America was built up of different peoples, each of which had its characteristic religion. The end result seems to be similar, though.

demo

pre 14 godina

So mr jeremic you are loosing money and everyday losing more and more just to do something against kosova, so instead of working against kosovo you are working against your own people. Kosovo is a state they don't care about serbia anymore everything is split up with serbia, but jeri and the others spending and spending until finally not only other countries but serbia itself will be pushed by its own becoming poor people from their politicians will recognize kosovo. Do not even dream that you can push muslim brothers against kosovo.
Hail Arabia-Kosovo-USA.

6 Points Victory

pre 14 godina

This is even better, here's why:
A resolution means nothing (EU MPs passed one too), those that want to recognize will recognize, but now the Saudis will use their wallets to get back at Serbia by strong arming the leaning countries. This is Russia vs US.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 14 godina

Another devastating defeat for the Kosovo Albanians and a diplomatic triumph for Serbia. Vuk Jeremic must be the most skilled and consummate politician in this Serbian government and I applaud him.

Amer

pre 14 godina

So what actually happened?

'Saudi Kosovo proposal fails at OIC

The document was put up for a vote during the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) ministerial gathering this Sunday.'

Implying the Serbs succeeded in preventing a resolution to recognize Kosovo, and Mr. Jeremic was successful. Okay, clear enough.

'But..'

But?

'... Serbian FM Vuk Jeremić stated today that Syria, Egypt, Azerbaijan and some other member states submitted amendments to the resolution, so that the text that has been adopted does not call for Kosovo Albanian unilateral declaration of independence to be recognized, nor does it mention Kosovo's "statehood".'

What's this 'text that has been adopted,' then? Sounds like it's not all over, after all: there will be a resolution that will avoid the word 'Kosovo' while everybody knows what is meant?

I can just imagine the day Kosovo joins the UN and the headlines read 'Jeremic wins! Comma removed from third paragraph!'

johny

pre 14 godina

First of all, for any resolution to pass the OIC every member should vote for it, meaning not even one NO votes for any resolution to pass. Albania, Turkey and Saudi Arabia knew this very well when the process started.
Second the resolution has been amended but not put to a vote yet. That will happen tomorrow (Monday). We knew from the begining that Syria and Egypt will vote NO, so the resolution will not pass. However that was not the goal of this resolution, meaning the ultimate goal was not for it to pass. The goal was to test waters. Put recognition in the agenda, and while the meeting is taking place talk individually to every member state of the OIC and with the help of Turkey and Saudi Arabia lobby for the recognition by as many of them as possible. The goal was for the government of the member states to put Kosova's recognition on their agenda. I think that has been achieved. Sources from Saudi Arabia foreign ministry state that there will be 19 recognitions from OIC member states in the coming days after the meeting. Considering that our goal was not to achieve a unanimous recognition from the organisation since that was impossible from the start, I'd say we didn't do that bad, having in mind that there will be other meetings and that Albania, Turkey and Saudi Arabia will push for more recognitions in every meeting. One also cannot help but feel a little more confident when Jeremic says he is successful since if we were to judge by past history, it has always backfired on him. Good news is that there's more recognition. Next time there will be pictures of the Mosques the Serbian state and army destroyed in Kosova. We haven't put all our cards on the table yet.

P.S Forget the observant sit. Albania will veto it every time.

Argo

pre 14 godina

I'm sorry but I don't know how acurate is this story but already 19 country are preparing to announce recognition of Kosova as a independent state so if I'm wrong let see by Tuesday what really it will happen..

Milan

pre 14 godina

The Albanian visitors have a point here that even though the resolution was rejected individual countries may, under Saudi pressure or bribery, decide to recognize anyway. Twenty or so more countries would be a big improvement, but it will still not provide access to the EU, UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC, and so on. This limbo situation is going to last for a long time.

Adnan Dema, Lund (SWE)

pre 14 godina

#Peggy

I am muslim , my brother is christian catholic and my sister is christian orthodox. Our family is Albanian family! BTW, I am Kosovar...

albano

pre 14 godina

So , B92 what happend, no update, on the resolution today, or just trying to avoid that, so Mr. Jeremic, dont blush?
OK if you did not get the news yet, resolution, is not chnaged at all, and for the Jeremic sake past.
It looks , you next headline today will be "Jermeic the worst FM of Serbia"

ToniUK

pre 14 godina

Several Serb media have been misinforming the public about the outcome of the vote at the OIC. Internal confirmation that NKR has received from the Kosovo Government, several Muslim countries' governments and officials at OIC, the resolution is going to be reviewed on Monday. Meanwhile, 19 Muslim nations are preparing to announce recognition of Kosovo as independent and sovereign state.

Joe

pre 14 godina

CG,

Wow! I didn't know that we Americans had some 60 colonies. According to your logic all the countries, who recognized Kosovo so far are American colonies. It also implies that after more future recognitions we will have even more colonies. Not bad for a country that is considered by some antiamericans being in declin.

Jarina

pre 14 godina

Several Serb media has been misinforming the public about the outcome of the vote at the OIC. Internal confirmation that NKR has received from the Kosovo Government, several Muslim countries' governments and officials at OIC, the resolution is going to be reviewed on Monday. Meanwhile, 19 Muslim nations are preparing to announce recognition of Kosovo as inpendent and sovereign state.

Pz

pre 14 godina

Blerim, Kosovo is not a religious country as you try to present it. No religion is ‘state official religion’.
Article 8 of Kosovo Constitution [Secular State]
“The Republic of Kosovo is a secular state and is neutral in matters of religious beliefs.”
So, what some here are referring "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM." Has more to do with the unity of all Albanians, regardless of their religious background, as the great poet/writer Vaso Pasha has put it in his famous poem. Further, in his poem he doesn’t refer to Albanians In plural but rather singular “Feja e shqiptarit…”, because nations are constituted from individuals, who can be Muslims, Christians, Orthodox, etc. and by this he wanted to rise the awareness of all Albanians not ot fight each other on the religious basis, because that was the intention of the enemies "divide and conquer/rule"

Amir

pre 14 godina

BTW:
With Jeremic's performance lately, I'm have strong believes that he must have met Mr. Pacolli somewhere, cuz he is becoming Mr. Hyseni's right hand man...

Peggy

pre 14 godina

America is pushing for recognition because of their interests. Not too many islamic countries want to do what is in the interest of America, that's for certain.

Recognizing Kosovo IS in the interest of America so I think that this push for Islamic recognition is dead in the water.

So all you Albanians out there. Do make up your mind once and for all. Are you Muslim of Albanian? You keep saying how your religion is not Islam but Albanianism (whatever that means) in one breath and in the other you say that you our Muslim brothers. You change like the wind. Who can possible take your word for anything then. Many Islamic countries obviously think they can't.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 14 godina

While many lament at Jeremic, every Serb should commend him for the hard work he is undertaking to defend, that what is ours. A true leader - who in the future (would not surprise me if within less than five years or more) becomes president or prime minister of Serbia.

pilaf

pre 14 godina

Now OIC countries will make their individual decisions on whether to recognize Kosovo or not.

Of course the resolution would fail because Saudi Arabia and Turkey are pro-Kosovo while Egypt and Syria are against Kosovo.

Just like the EU couldn't find a common language on whether or not to recognize Kosovo, it came down to individual EU countries making that decision. And the result was that 22 out of 27 recognized.

Now, we'll see how many OIC countries will recognize Kosovo and how many will not.

Jeremic is so desperate that he calls even an obviously ambiguous decision by the OIC a "diplomatic victory", hanging by the thinnest of threads. I guarantee you that within ten days at least one or two of the OIC countries will recognize Kosovo. History has proven that everytime Jeremic says something, usually a country or two recognize Kosovo soon after.

Thank you Saudi Arabia and Turkey for lobbying for Kosovo.

Phyrric Victory

pre 14 godina

"Jeremić pointed out that this is considered "yet another important diplomatic victory for Serbia"."

Poor Jeremic, he keeps gettign victory victory. Kosova gettign in IMF was another great victory him, just as customs strengthening north. Any resolution requires 100% vote, we knew that at least one (Iran for example) would never vote for it, the idea is to start the debate and get recognition by about half of the Arabs. Next we move in the Caribbean islands...We already have 60, we need 38 more to start pressure at UN.

The more Serbia goes against US /EU leaders in the world, worst it is for you. Things have a way of grinding to a halt in EU if France, UK and Germany want, regardless of what they say in public.

Mark

pre 14 godina

If it weren't for some US officials doing your bidding, you'd have zero recognitions except for Albania. This is a loss for you and you cannot spin it any other way.
(Daniel, 24 May 2009 23:48)

If it wasn't for Russia you wouldn't have been in the game as of now.NIS is the word.You cannot spin it any other way.

Hekruan

pre 14 godina

The only OIC members that will stand behind Serbia will be Azerbaijan, Egypt, Syria and The Russian Puppets (Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan and Tajakistan).

Like Joe Biden said: "Independence is irreversible"

Pro-Serbia

pre 14 godina

Another victory for Serbia and also there are still a majority of muslim countries still believes that the UN is the proper forum to resolve the separatism problem like the serbian province of kosovo.

EA

pre 14 godina

As I said in my previous comment the will of majority should prevail and will prevail. I can see that the Serbian panel is getting carried away. One THING is for CERTAIN. There is NO RETURN to Serbia! What Serbia is trying to do is damage to maximum Kosova's prosperity and stability. I can not get Serbian "fight" to stop the UNSTOPABLE. The forced marrage is finished.

Rod

pre 14 godina

Actually Amer, the USA was built by decendents of western europeans on the dead bodies of the native americans, through a policy known as manifest destiny, which is basically a nice word for genocide. In 1776 there were approx 6 million native americans living on the territory of what is now the continental United States.
Total this number is less than 900,000. The remaining native americans today live on what are known as reservations, which are essentially fenced in areas of desert, or other non ariable worthless patches of land, where nothing will grow, and there is no game left to hunt. In other words, the entire native american way of life was destroyed - this of course was a natural balance with nature, via give and take relationship with the land. Now native american reservations are forced to build casinos or sell their women off in brothels just to make ends meat to survive.

Coincidentally, this shameful
and undeniable truth about the USA draws an interesting parallel whith daily living conditions faced b Serbs, Roma, Gorani, and other non-albanians living in kosovo today. Its no wonder why albanians like you idolize the usa so much.

gjon cima

pre 14 godina

It seems the resolution was approved today with full votes.

Far from sounding victorious I invite you guys to work for joining the EU together. We'll surely be better off.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

To attain mental health one must accept reality. The reality is that unless Serbia accepts Kosovo as independent it is not independent. Many nations will never recognize Kosovo as an independent nation unless Serbia does. I don't care if every Islamic nation does so, if every Western nation does so, unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo as independent, it's not independent. It's delusional to believe other so. I read that one mental midget believes that Kosovo will attain many recognitions soon, but where does that delusional idea come from? Why do you think Kosovo will attain further recognitions beyond a few more? It's been a year and nearly six months and there are only 60 recognitions? Where is the unanimous support? Does the world believe the putrid lie of Kosovo Albanian suffering? I doubt it. It seems like you are going nowhere with your delusions. So sorry to disappoint you but Mr. Jeremic is doing an excellent job and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Too bad you don't have a diplomat as skilled as Jeremic on your side. You depend on others to do your work for you because your so called leaders are powerless to attain recognitions. If it weren't for some US officials doing your bidding, you'd have zero recognitions except for Albania. This is a loss for you and you cannot spin it any other way.

Flamur Kosova

pre 14 godina

Every time I read Mr Jeremic's comments and then Serb's camp on this forum, it reminds me of Mr Comic Ali from Iraq. Actually he was Iraqi's Information Minister.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Tell me how Serbia can effectively and without violence go back into Kosovo and be able to control 2 million rowdy Albanians who have gotten a taste of independence for over a year. "

And what Croatia can effectively and without violence go back into Eastern Slavonia after SEVEN YEARS of serbian self-government on this territory (1991-1998??

timotimekvej

pre 14 godina

Countries like Iran or Syria strongly opposed Saudi Kosovo proposal!
If the Serbs here want to celebrate "victory" i'm happy for Kosovo to not get recognised by these countries.

You are happy because kosovo&metohija wasnt recognised by more countries?What if some countries decide to take back their recognitions of Kosovo&Metohija will you also be happy like now?

village-bey

pre 14 godina

Lack of sportsmanship from my Albanian brothers and sisters. Let’s grant this round to our Serbian friends. Has been a while since they heard any good news.

Nadeem

pre 14 godina

Understandably it's ironic enough that some predominantly Muslim nations refuse to recognize Kosovo's independence but what's worse is if these predominantly Muslim nations support or supported anti-Albanian regimes in Serbia.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Now after the adoption of the OIC resolution Jeremic s/b called the minister of desinformation. And some Serbs want to see such a man as their future PM or president.

Master ks

pre 14 godina

What Jeremic is doing is to fight up to the least bullet!!!
Recall something interesting that for those countries that were able to recognize Kosova they will definitely do it soon. Since the situation became to recognize or not and for those countries which were expecting some moves on that direction, think that it is enough impulse to recognize the NEWBORN.

According to new history every time when Jeremic tried to destroy any moves for Kosova he received any boomerang!!! Isn't so?

Blerim

pre 14 godina

Marinels: "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM."

This foolishness must stop at once! How do you expect the IOC to support us if people make irresponsible and untrue statements like this. The Qu'ran states that the apostate is more damned than the infidel and you want to tell the world that Kosova is a state of apostasy. Islam, not albanism (a secular concept) is the religion of Kosova.

Filip

pre 14 godina

The Resolution proposed by Saudi Arabia is aproved!

Thank you Saudi Arabia, Thank you muslim countries!

So it was untrue that the resolution was rejected!

Rod

pre 14 godina

>>It's interesting that we arrived at the same position by different historical routes - different groups of Albanians assumed different religions at different times, while America was built up of different peoples, each of which had its characteristic religion

johny

pre 14 godina

Somebody here said:
"I don't care if every Islamic nation does so, if every Western nation does so, unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo as independent, it's not independent. It's delusional to believe other..."

According to you, If everyone else in the world recognizes Kosova but Serbia doesn't then it is still not independent. I don't know whether you are being sarcastic or you mean it.

peter, sydney

pre 14 godina

Mike:
Read this article & associated comments with some amusement a while back & yes, originally it was only about the proposal as such.

And see lots of budding spin doctors have been busy downplaying the result since.


L*O*G*I*C & others:
19 new recognitions coming soon from the OIC conference? Surely you realise this twaddle is only for the gullible'.

And before you put your belief in someone like Hyseni, suggest you examine his track record - more likely he has been summoned to Washington for a detailed 'how to' list.


Beauty of Finland:
Am sure Finland has spectular scenary, much like Taiwan & just about any other place, but wouldn't bring up the topic of a comparison between Taiwan & self-styled 'Republic of Kosovo' if I were you.

Taiwan has in the past, been recognised by 58 countries. Now it is recognised by 22 (& not 25). 36 countries have withdrawn their recognition.

Including ALL of the G7.

Not that the G7 is really relevant these days as can't get anything done.

Is a lesson for the likes of Pacolli in this. Countries that are bribed to recognise a place cannot be expected to maintain their 'diplomatic stance' without further 'capital infusions'.

Have a nice day :)

pss

pre 14 godina

Amer, I truly loved your comment.
Peggy for once I think you are 100% right. The negatives from the OIC are more anti-American and not pro Serbian point of views.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Marinels: "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM."

This foolishness must stop at once! How do you expect the IOC to support us if people make irresponsible and untrue statements like this. The Qu'ran states that the apostate is more damned than the infidel and you want to tell the world that Kosova is a state of apostasy. Islam, not albanism (a secular concept) is the religion of Kosova.
(Blerim, 25 May 2009 12:06)"

Thank you for clearing this long-time misconception. This is what many of us have known or suspected for a very long time, but it has been denied by many as well. It is not going to change anything, but at least it will be easier to post a link like this one and use it to our "advantage".

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1363436/posts

Common sense

pre 14 godina

Will they(recognize),will they not,will they,will they not...!What is it to be so excited about,whether they will or will not recognize independence of Kosovo?The Master/King(Mr.J BIDEN,VP of THE USA,God bless them) of the World has spoken just 4-5 days ago,Quote:Kosovo is an Independent,Sovereign Country,the Independence is IRREVERSIBLE...!So,for this matter,don't waste your time anymore,the question is WHEN not "IF" Serbia & Russia will recognize it's Independence.As for OIC,they will recognize Kosovo's Independence very soon,all of them incl.Iran,Syria,Egypt,Algeria,Titos DOG ghadafi's Lybia etc.

AgIm

pre 14 godina

"but it will still not provide access to the EU, UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC, and so on. This limbo situation is going to last for a long time."

EU does not depend on you at all. The same with UN etc, they depend on Russia, not you. Loyalty is not in the Russian dictionary. We maybe in limbo but so will you EU application

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Which 19 countries are going to recognize Kosovo?

Here is what they think.

http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=4486

Doesn't sound like a tsunami of recognitions is going to come in.

fufi

pre 14 godina

"And what Croatia can effectively and without violence go back into Eastern Slavonia after SEVEN YEARS of serbian self-government on this territory (1991-1998??)"






I'm sorry, but your attempt to answer a complex question has led you to giving a simple answer. Your answer makes absolutely no sense in relation to Kosovo, specifically. I could care less about Slovenia and Croatia. They don't apply here.

Nobody else?

Alright then, if nobody can answer it, then what are you fighting for?

stari_vujadin

pre 14 godina

Keywords: rule effectively, without violence, 2 million Albanians.

(fufi, 25 May 2009 00:20)

fufi -
1) we don't want to rule you, which is why serbia is a democratic nation.
2) there shouldn't be violenece if everything is done ACCORDING TO LAW
3) 2 million albanians wouldn't be against having a job, heat and electricity - just the few thousand extremists that woulnd't be able to push their 'products' as effectively

timotimekvej

pre 14 godina

Some albanian posters here are trying to fool themselves and others saying that PM Jeremic failed. Yes, resolution of Saudia Arabia was adopted, but with certain changes thats PM Jeremics point!

Dulo

pre 14 godina

Mr Jeremic,

But what exactly did you win today? Surely you thought that your voice and Russia's voice will be stronger then Saudis, Bahrain's, Turkey's, Albania's etc?

(I think not, you know as well as anyone in the world that OIC will not reject Kosova)

It was a very cheap spin you pulled on readers, your voters, and to the serbian media?


But on the other hand I do understand you, as no matter how hard you try and no matter what you try, you just can not reverse the time that made Kosova what it is today. I am not Serb but if those countries of the OIC start recognising Kosova, I should get the very message you are sending by now.

All it is lost regarding Kosova, hope your voters are realising as your job has proven to be one of the most difficult jobs in the whole of Europe. Brick wall everywhere you go, oh I do understand you mate...

Ardian

pre 14 godina

FACT:


Organisation of the Islamic Conference (23-25 May 2009)

RESOLUTIONS ON POLITICAL AFFAIRS ADOPTED BY THE 36TH SESSION OF THE COUNCIL OF FOREIGN MINISTERS JEDDAH, KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA (23-25 MAY, 2009)

Source: http://www.oic-oci.org/36cfm/w/en/res/36CFM-POL-RES-FINAL.pdf (page 33)

RESOLUTION NO. 14/36-POL ON THE SITUATION IN KOSOVO
The Thirty-Sixth Session of the Council of Foreign Ministers (Session of Enhancing Islamic Solidarity), held in Damascus, Syrian Arab Republic from 28 Jamadul Awal – 1 Jamadul Thani 1430 .H (23-25 May 2009);

Guided by the principles and purposes of the Charter of the United Nations, the Charter of the OIC, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenants on Human Rights, the Geneva Conventions of August 1949, 1951 as well as other instruments of international law;

Upholding the role of the U.N. in the peaceful settlement of disputes and maintenance of international peace and security;

Referring to the UN Security Council Resolutions No.1160 (of 31st of March 1998), No.1999 (of 23rd September 1998) No. 1203 (of 24th October 1998) No.1239 (of 14 May 1999) and 1244 of 10th of June 1999 and the relevant statements of its President.

Referring to Resolution No. 16/31 adopted at the Thirty-first Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers held in Istanbul on 14-16 June 2004; the Resolution No.36/34 of the 34th Session of the ICFM, Islamabad, 15-17 May 2007; the Final Communiqué of the 11th OIC Summit, Dakar, 13-14 March 2008; the Declaration of the OIC Ministerial Meeting in Kampala in June 2008 and in New York in September 2008 where is noted the Declaration of Independence by the Assembly of Kosovo of 17
February 2008;

Reaffirming the strong interest of OIC regarding the Muslims in the Balkans, and the importance of the stability in the whole Balkan region;

1. Takes note of the progress made towards strengthening the democracy in Kosovo, serving peace and stability in Kosovo and the whole region.

2. Further takes note of the accelerated UN Mission’s reconfiguration, deployment of EULEX throughout Kosovo, in compliance with UN Secretary General’s guidelines and the current Kosovo institutional and legal framework.

3. Welcomes the cooperation of Kosovo with the OIC Economic and Financial institutions, and calls on the international community, to continue contributing to the fostering of the Kosovo’s economy.

4. Requests the Secretary General to follow up the implementation of the present resolution, and to submit a report thereon to the 37th Session of the Council of Foreign Ministers.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"It's hard to predict the outcome of the vote, but we hope for the best," stressed Jeremić, and explained that as Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering.

Keep hoping Mr. Jeremic, but don't forget that I think you are the big JINX and bad OMEN for Serbia. Every time you opened your mouth about recogntions, it always came the opposite of what you said. I think you should be fired immediately.

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

Jeremić specified that the conference started with Saudi Arabia's "aggressive address which asked the 57 OIC members to immediately recognize Kosovo in the name of support to their Muslim brothers".


It's true that everytime Jeremic opens his mouth there is or are new recognitions.

Thank you Saudi Arabia for your efforts but I must remind you that Albanian religion is Albanianism.

Imagine 50 countires out of 57 went ahed with their Kosova recognitions?.

EA

pre 14 godina

"It calls upon Islamic countries to "immediately recognize Kosovo".

Nice move but at least the will of majority of countries should PREVAIL. That is THE BASIC in a democratic society.

"Saudi Arabia's "aggressive address which asked the 57 OIC members to immediately recognize Kosovo...".

What is the Serbia's address wen it comes to Kosova? Gentle, kind....? Agressiviness came come accross even on the phone....24 hours a day.

".. but we hope for the best,""...Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering."

We all hope for the BEST but what would be the best?

Will Serbia still apply to become and observer in the Organisation even if this Organisation vote doesn't go Serbia's best hope?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"The minister said on Saturday evening that he had spent the previous 48 hours "constantly on the phone with those OIC countries that support Serbia's position".

I wonder if Mr. Jeremic speak arabian, or maybe only Farsi since Iran is a close friend of Serbia.

Biljana

pre 14 godina

I congratulate to Mr. Jeremic another diplomatic victory.
This is our troublemaker boy (as Biden put it) that we are very proud of.
Some like to call him little Wolf, but little Wolf seems to be very poisonous.
He deserves deepest respect from every Serb.

Thank you Vuk!

dan-ch

pre 14 godina

"The minister said on Saturday evening that he had spent the previous 48 hours "constantly on the phone with those OIC countries that support Serbia's position".

48 hours for nothing! from the 57 countrys of the OIC at least 52 will sure recognize kosovo 13 countrys of the OIC have always recognized kosovos independence including the most powerful islamic country in the world with is Saudi-Arabia and where mekka and medina are located

CG

pre 14 godina

It really amuzes me how the Albanians celebrate every recognition by a American colony or island you never heard of.
It shows their desperation combined with the constant attacks on our brilliant FM Jeremic.
Their leaders 1 1/2 years in every opportunity like to stress how our province is "independent",total desperation.
They perfectly know that Serbian integrity is still valid according to 1244(all Albanians hate this number),that all international organizations are forever blocked by our powerful allies and that this has been only cemented by the recognition of Abkhazia by Russia and other countries.
We managed to turn it into a black hole with no future,de facto occupied(let the KFOR deal with them)de jure Serbian and we will keep it that way.

NoolaV

pre 14 godina

So sory Jeremic!! So sory.but this resolution will pass,and 40 Islamic countries will recognise Muslim country Kosovo.Thank you Saudi Arabia and Albania.

Joe

pre 14 godina

CG,

Wow! I didn't know that we Americans had some 60 colonies. According to your logic all the countries, who recognized Kosovo so far are American colonies. It also implies that after more future recognitions we will have even more colonies. Not bad for a country that is considered by some antiamericans being in declin.

Ilir

pre 14 godina

Countries like Iran or Syria strongly opposed Saudi Kosovo proposal!
If the Serbs here want to celebrate "victory" i'm happy for Kosovo to not get recognised by these countries.
Please don't start writting nonsence about the Serb diplomatic skills. Do you know that the western diplomats refuse to meet with Jeremic due to his low communication skills and rudeness.
So much so, that now in Brussel Jeremic is the joke of the Balkans.

Amer

pre 14 godina

So what actually happened?

'Saudi Kosovo proposal fails at OIC

The document was put up for a vote during the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) ministerial gathering this Sunday.'

Implying the Serbs succeeded in preventing a resolution to recognize Kosovo, and Mr. Jeremic was successful. Okay, clear enough.

'But..'

But?

'... Serbian FM Vuk Jeremić stated today that Syria, Egypt, Azerbaijan and some other member states submitted amendments to the resolution, so that the text that has been adopted does not call for Kosovo Albanian unilateral declaration of independence to be recognized, nor does it mention Kosovo's "statehood".'

What's this 'text that has been adopted,' then? Sounds like it's not all over, after all: there will be a resolution that will avoid the word 'Kosovo' while everybody knows what is meant?

I can just imagine the day Kosovo joins the UN and the headlines read 'Jeremic wins! Comma removed from third paragraph!'

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Bravo Saudi Arabia.Long life Saudi Arabia.Muslim brothers 4 evee
(NoolaV, 24 May 2009 11:28)"

I thought that the secular Albanian Muslims did not want to be associated with the orthodox Muslims in places like Saudi Arabia. This was of course to assure the naive Europeans that the are moderate and so on. Comments like the one above show the opposite with is closest to the truth. Most Albanians that post their comments here are typical Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde characters: just wear the mask that is the most beneficial at the moment. I have to admit that Getting support from these Islamic countries will be a big boost for the Albanian moral, but it will not affect the Serbian moral. We know it is a long and hard struggle that requires patience and a long breath. But you know what, when your pride, culture, and history are at stake you will find the energy, will, and strength to accomplish the seemingly impossible.

BalkanUpdate

pre 14 godina

Vuk doesn't sound very optimistic. I don't know how OIC adopts its resolutions, but if they do by simple majority this resolution will win out. Notice how Vuk says his goal is to amend the resolution, not block it.How do you amend something the sole purpose of which is to call on others to recognize Kosovo? This either passes or doesn't. The good news is that Kosovo has friends ( S.Arabia,Turkey,Albania) in there who are willing to go to bat for her whereas Serbia doesn't.

Tunxh

pre 14 godina

Vuk Jeremic stated:
"It's hard to predict the outcome of the vote, but we hope for the best," stressed Jeremić, and explained that as Serbia is not a member, the country's delegation did not travel to Damascus for the OIC gathering. "

The above passage is composed of diplomatic language, which never means what it states. Essentially, Jeremic is leaving himself a backdoor from which he can jump ship should the Conference decide to go ahead with the recognitions. He is saying that "we tried, but you never know, and Serbia can't influence the conference much since we are not members." Well Mr. Jeremic, let me remind you that Albania is a member, so unlike you, they have a full vote in the conference, as well as lobbying power, being that they are the only European nation in the conference. Most Muslims will identify more with fellow Muslims than with Orthodox Christians...it's only natural. So as far as the islamic countries go, you are fighting a losing battle. Do you think Egypt will still stand by Serbia once Washington reminds in a late night phone call that they get more military aid from us than any other country besides Israel? You will be sold out faster than a Nintendo gamebox at a garage sale.

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Bravo Saudi Arabia.Long life Saudi Arabia.Muslim brothers 4 evee
(NoolaV, 24 May 2009 11:28)"

Saudi Arabia failed.
Muslim brothers don't like "independent" Kosovo?? ;)

Marinels

pre 14 godina

“It failed and most likely not because of Jeremic's efforts (but you cannot exclude that completely), but because most sensible Islamic countries do not want to be associated with this American project and because Albanians have proven to have terrible diplomatic skills.”

Look at how funny the Serbs try to shift the things from an issue to another. I would doubt very much that your “hero” Jeremic contributed for this project to fail. More than “our Muslim brothers” I think that your Russian orthodox brother made the things more complex by considering that within OIC there are some Russian lapdogs which can not escape the past. In such organization with 57 members even with one vote against any project can fail. As for Albanian diplomatic skills, the one who travels continually around the world doesn’t mean that has more diplomatic skills. But hey this time u used the telephone to achieve you goals. To conclude, there are much more Christian countries pro Kosovo than Muslim countries against it. We thank them all for the support.

“Of course they cannot curse them for failing, because earlier today they were glorifying them and all other Islamic countries and emphasizing that they are all Muslim brothers and so on”

The opinions of the individuals don’t make the things the way you wish to be. You have the answer in some comments above. The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM.

“Maybe if the Albanians had shown some open support for an independent Palestine (and hereby openly going against their American masters and their Israeli allies (remember that on the American list of favorite countries Israel will ALWAYS be above Albania and Kosovo)) you guys might have had more chance and hereby prove that you are true Muslims in the eyes of your fellow Islamic worshipers”.

That is very laughable. Now you turn in the position of the one who gives the perfect solutions for the problem. Our loyalty to US has roots many years ago and we fully respect it. As close we are with US so far you Serbs will be in coming years at least. For you interest you have proved to support and be supported by totalitarians regimes not only in the Middle East but around the world. We keep always our eyes open. By the way why should Albanian be necessary on the top list of favorites!! We are not on the top but for sure much closer than Serbia and your lapdogs. There are some million Jews in USA associated with important positions in many areas. They of course deserve the first place.

Yesterday I read an article about how the drug addicted patients were treated in Serbia especially by the church. Similar methods use you friends Russia and Iran so you have to walk on the same line. God bless USA who helped us to be never ever under Serbian anymore.

Milan

pre 14 godina

It failed and most likely not because of Jeremic's efforts (but you cannot exclude that completely), but because most sensible Islamic countries do not want to be associated with this American project and because Albanians have proven to have terrible diplomatic skills. I am sure that the Albanians will thank Saudi Arabia and others for their efforts. Of course they cannot curse them for failing, because earlier today they were glorifying them and all other Islamic countries and emphasizing that they are all Muslim brothers and so on. I am mature enough not to rob this in your faces as being some kind of victory for Serbia or a defeat for Kosovo. The EU and especially the UN are far far away. Maybe if the Albanians had shown some open support for an independent Palestine (and hereby openly going against their American masters and their Israeli allies (remember that on the American list of favorite countries Israel will ALWAYS be above Albania and Kosovo)) you guys might have had more chance and hereby prove that you are true Muslims in the eyes of your fellow Islamic worshipers. It is all politics and interests.

Mike

pre 14 godina

In reading the article and then deciding against my better judgement to read the comments, I noted a rather large discrepancy between what the article said - Saudi proposal fails at the OIC - and the Albanian comments - yay! we're #1 and Jeremic is a jerk.

I can only surmise two things. First, the failed recognition came recently and the article originally started off as something like "Saudi Arabia proposes recognition bill at OIC", hence the overabundance of excited Albanians at the start. Or second, Albanians are so blissfully ignorant of even the most objective truth that they'll still say recognitions are coming their way even after it won't - similar to Hash's idiotic statements of expecting a Russian recognition soon and imminent EU membership (which, if I might add, are 10 times more stupid than anything Jeremic is accused by his detractors of saying).

Whatever the reason, this is just the latest example of someone else doing what should be the work of Kosovo Albanians. And suddenly, after all these years of being reminded that Albanians really aren't Muslim, or don't regard Islam as that much of a factor, it suddenly becomes such an important issue if the mother of all Islamic countries speaks up on its behalf.

Shakespeare couldn't write a tragic comedy this good.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

America is pushing for recognition because of their interests. Not too many islamic countries want to do what is in the interest of America, that's for certain.

Recognizing Kosovo IS in the interest of America so I think that this push for Islamic recognition is dead in the water.

So all you Albanians out there. Do make up your mind once and for all. Are you Muslim of Albanian? You keep saying how your religion is not Islam but Albanianism (whatever that means) in one breath and in the other you say that you our Muslim brothers. You change like the wind. Who can possible take your word for anything then. Many Islamic countries obviously think they can't.

london

pre 14 godina

Isn't it wonderful how this ''news source'' makes it out as if Serbia had anything to do with the votes outcome! Do the editors seriously think the readers are morons? Hope not. Nevertheless, Kosovo's independence recognitions keep rising...

demo

pre 14 godina

So mr jeremic you are loosing money and everyday losing more and more just to do something against kosova, so instead of working against kosovo you are working against your own people. Kosovo is a state they don't care about serbia anymore everything is split up with serbia, but jeri and the others spending and spending until finally not only other countries but serbia itself will be pushed by its own becoming poor people from their politicians will recognize kosovo. Do not even dream that you can push muslim brothers against kosovo.
Hail Arabia-Kosovo-USA.

village-bey

pre 14 godina

Lack of sportsmanship from my Albanian brothers and sisters. Let’s grant this round to our Serbian friends. Has been a while since they heard any good news.

pilaf

pre 14 godina

Now OIC countries will make their individual decisions on whether to recognize Kosovo or not.

Of course the resolution would fail because Saudi Arabia and Turkey are pro-Kosovo while Egypt and Syria are against Kosovo.

Just like the EU couldn't find a common language on whether or not to recognize Kosovo, it came down to individual EU countries making that decision. And the result was that 22 out of 27 recognized.

Now, we'll see how many OIC countries will recognize Kosovo and how many will not.

Jeremic is so desperate that he calls even an obviously ambiguous decision by the OIC a "diplomatic victory", hanging by the thinnest of threads. I guarantee you that within ten days at least one or two of the OIC countries will recognize Kosovo. History has proven that everytime Jeremic says something, usually a country or two recognize Kosovo soon after.

Thank you Saudi Arabia and Turkey for lobbying for Kosovo.

Beauty of Finland

pre 14 godina

In just over 1 year since Kosovo's independence 1/3 of the world has recognized it, including nations that make up over 70% of the world's GDP. A total of 60 nations.

If you ask me, to have those kinds of results in such short time is amazing.

Even Taiwan, which separated from China since the Second World War, only has 25 countries recognizing it so far.

Within the next couple of weeks to less than a couple of months it is expected that about 10 more recognitions will be announced.

And most of those announcements will come from OIC countries.

Great job Kosovo!

Mark

pre 14 godina

Jeremić pointed out that this is considered "yet another important diplomatic victory for Serbia".

Why is it a victory? You serbs say that even if Kosovo gets 191 recognitions it still not going to be considered independent without Serbia's agreement. So why do you bother trying to convince the world that independence is illegal when you already have the almighty power to stop it? There is always something funny happening when Jeremic declares his diplomatic victories.Wait and see.

timotimekvej

pre 14 godina

Countries like Iran or Syria strongly opposed Saudi Kosovo proposal!
If the Serbs here want to celebrate "victory" i'm happy for Kosovo to not get recognised by these countries.

You are happy because kosovo&metohija wasnt recognised by more countries?What if some countries decide to take back their recognitions of Kosovo&Metohija will you also be happy like now?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Another devastating defeat for the Kosovo Albanians and a diplomatic triumph for Serbia. Vuk Jeremic must be the most skilled and consummate politician in this Serbian government and I applaud him.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 24 May 2009 19:26)

You are right there Tom. This was another thunderous defeat for the Albanian irrientist plan to steal 15% of Serbia's territory. Pristina was hoping for the resoultion to pass, it didnt. Serbia has a sizeable chunk of solid support in the OIC (the Maghreb countries, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran, Kuwait, Indonesia, etc.) and that is down to the sterling work of Vuk Jeremic.

The fact that the Albanians on this site constantly ridicule the man's good character and talk about "moving onto the Carribean countries" where no doubt the usual strong arm tactics of coercion, cajoling only highlights the moral bankruptcy of the Greater Albanian argument.

Well done Vuk. One day your work will pay off when Kosmet is rightfully returned to Serbia, its history and heritage to be shared by all the Serbian poeple, irrespective of their ethnicity.

johny

pre 14 godina

First of all, for any resolution to pass the OIC every member should vote for it, meaning not even one NO votes for any resolution to pass. Albania, Turkey and Saudi Arabia knew this very well when the process started.
Second the resolution has been amended but not put to a vote yet. That will happen tomorrow (Monday). We knew from the begining that Syria and Egypt will vote NO, so the resolution will not pass. However that was not the goal of this resolution, meaning the ultimate goal was not for it to pass. The goal was to test waters. Put recognition in the agenda, and while the meeting is taking place talk individually to every member state of the OIC and with the help of Turkey and Saudi Arabia lobby for the recognition by as many of them as possible. The goal was for the government of the member states to put Kosova's recognition on their agenda. I think that has been achieved. Sources from Saudi Arabia foreign ministry state that there will be 19 recognitions from OIC member states in the coming days after the meeting. Considering that our goal was not to achieve a unanimous recognition from the organisation since that was impossible from the start, I'd say we didn't do that bad, having in mind that there will be other meetings and that Albania, Turkey and Saudi Arabia will push for more recognitions in every meeting. One also cannot help but feel a little more confident when Jeremic says he is successful since if we were to judge by past history, it has always backfired on him. Good news is that there's more recognition. Next time there will be pictures of the Mosques the Serbian state and army destroyed in Kosova. We haven't put all our cards on the table yet.

P.S Forget the observant sit. Albania will veto it every time.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

I think you should be fired immediately.
Kosova-USA

Well of course you do! Thank's to Jeriemic it only 60 "recognitions".
Keep up the good work Jeremic! Serbs support you 100%.

Jarina

pre 14 godina

Several Serb media has been misinforming the public about the outcome of the vote at the OIC. Internal confirmation that NKR has received from the Kosovo Government, several Muslim countries' governments and officials at OIC, the resolution is going to be reviewed on Monday. Meanwhile, 19 Muslim nations are preparing to announce recognition of Kosovo as inpendent and sovereign state.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 14 godina

Are we absolutely sure it failed?

I see no failure.

MFA Hyseni was in Washington holding a meeting with representatives of 30 countries.

We are being informed 19 OIC countries are recognizing. Again, what failure?

How the rhetoric is changing in beograd. Now the main message coming is as "to prevent further recognitions". What happened to those "de-recognitions"?


Back to the OIC meeting. It was very important that the resolution was brought up. Just Kosova being discussed is a step closer to receiving recognitions.

Either way, this isn't the only resolution, I am certain another resolution will be brought up, and another, and another. Now do you understand why I say time is on our side?

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 14 godina

Another devastating defeat for the Kosovo Albanians and a diplomatic triumph for Serbia. Vuk Jeremic must be the most skilled and consummate politician in this Serbian government and I applaud him.

EA

pre 14 godina

As I said in my previous comment the will of majority should prevail and will prevail. I can see that the Serbian panel is getting carried away. One THING is for CERTAIN. There is NO RETURN to Serbia! What Serbia is trying to do is damage to maximum Kosova's prosperity and stability. I can not get Serbian "fight" to stop the UNSTOPABLE. The forced marrage is finished.

Daniel

pre 14 godina

To attain mental health one must accept reality. The reality is that unless Serbia accepts Kosovo as independent it is not independent. Many nations will never recognize Kosovo as an independent nation unless Serbia does. I don't care if every Islamic nation does so, if every Western nation does so, unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo as independent, it's not independent. It's delusional to believe other so. I read that one mental midget believes that Kosovo will attain many recognitions soon, but where does that delusional idea come from? Why do you think Kosovo will attain further recognitions beyond a few more? It's been a year and nearly six months and there are only 60 recognitions? Where is the unanimous support? Does the world believe the putrid lie of Kosovo Albanian suffering? I doubt it. It seems like you are going nowhere with your delusions. So sorry to disappoint you but Mr. Jeremic is doing an excellent job and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Too bad you don't have a diplomat as skilled as Jeremic on your side. You depend on others to do your work for you because your so called leaders are powerless to attain recognitions. If it weren't for some US officials doing your bidding, you'd have zero recognitions except for Albania. This is a loss for you and you cannot spin it any other way.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Serbs are happy a day like this while Albanians were happy a week ago when an island no one ever heard of recognized Kosovo. However, all these recognitions and non-recognitions don't actually count. They don't change the facts on the ground. The fact is that Kosovo today is partitioned and will remain partitioned until there is a negotiated settlement. So much fuzz over nothing.

ToniUK

pre 14 godina

Several Serb media have been misinforming the public about the outcome of the vote at the OIC. Internal confirmation that NKR has received from the Kosovo Government, several Muslim countries' governments and officials at OIC, the resolution is going to be reviewed on Monday. Meanwhile, 19 Muslim nations are preparing to announce recognition of Kosovo as independent and sovereign state.

6 Points Victory

pre 14 godina

This is even better, here's why:
A resolution means nothing (EU MPs passed one too), those that want to recognize will recognize, but now the Saudis will use their wallets to get back at Serbia by strong arming the leaning countries. This is Russia vs US.

Rod

pre 14 godina

Great work from Serbias FM Jeremic. This is another international victory for Serbia, and a horrible faiure for Albanians and the other subjects of the new world order aka anglo/american empire. Even the Albanians muslim brothers realize that kosovo is NOT independent, but instead recognize kosovo for what it really is - occupied Serbian territory where the anglo-american empire/fourth reich have established a puppet regime to serve their own misguided, self-serving interests.

Albanians from kosovo keep coming here and bragging about all of the so-called international support they are recieving, yet in reality Serbia consistently defeats their illegitimate goals in every international forum. That is the reality of the situation, and I have every confidence that the ICJ decision will be in Serbias favor.

Again congratulations to Serbia and especially Vuk Jeremic on a job well done.
Kosovo je Srbija!

Vera

pre 14 godina

Well, Serbia, the shining beacon fighting for Christianity against the invading Islam. Thanks Iran, Egypt and Syria for this continuation... Now, Visa-free regime for Serbians in Middle-East.

Alahu akbar...oh sorry, God bless Ahjamdinejad, God bless Iran.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

Its about time the west stood behind its christian brothers.
(dave(UK), 24 May 2009 11:42)

Christianity is on the decline in the West and especially in Britain mate. Atheism will soon be more popular in the West.

48 hours for nothing! from the 57 countrys of the OIC at least 52 will sure recognize kosovo 13 countrys of the OIC have always recognized kosovos independence including the most powerful islamic country in the world with is Saudi-Arabia and where mekka and medina are located
(dan-ch, 24 May 2009 12:14)

I highly doubt 52 of the 57 members will recognise Kosovo. The former Soviet Muslim countries will not recognise Kosovo, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Palestine will all defiantly not recognise Kosovo.

Mark

pre 14 godina

If it weren't for some US officials doing your bidding, you'd have zero recognitions except for Albania. This is a loss for you and you cannot spin it any other way.
(Daniel, 24 May 2009 23:48)

If it wasn't for Russia you wouldn't have been in the game as of now.NIS is the word.You cannot spin it any other way.

Phyrric Victory

pre 14 godina

"Jeremić pointed out that this is considered "yet another important diplomatic victory for Serbia"."

Poor Jeremic, he keeps gettign victory victory. Kosova gettign in IMF was another great victory him, just as customs strengthening north. Any resolution requires 100% vote, we knew that at least one (Iran for example) would never vote for it, the idea is to start the debate and get recognition by about half of the Arabs. Next we move in the Caribbean islands...We already have 60, we need 38 more to start pressure at UN.

The more Serbia goes against US /EU leaders in the world, worst it is for you. Things have a way of grinding to a halt in EU if France, UK and Germany want, regardless of what they say in public.

Blerim

pre 14 godina

Marinels: "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM."

This foolishness must stop at once! How do you expect the IOC to support us if people make irresponsible and untrue statements like this. The Qu'ran states that the apostate is more damned than the infidel and you want to tell the world that Kosova is a state of apostasy. Islam, not albanism (a secular concept) is the religion of Kosova.

Milan

pre 14 godina

The Albanian visitors have a point here that even though the resolution was rejected individual countries may, under Saudi pressure or bribery, decide to recognize anyway. Twenty or so more countries would be a big improvement, but it will still not provide access to the EU, UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC, and so on. This limbo situation is going to last for a long time.

Argo

pre 14 godina

I'm sorry but I don't know how acurate is this story but already 19 country are preparing to announce recognition of Kosova as a independent state so if I'm wrong let see by Tuesday what really it will happen..

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Which 19 countries are going to recognize Kosovo?

Here is what they think.

http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=4486

Doesn't sound like a tsunami of recognitions is going to come in.

Milan

pre 14 godina

UN membership is far and far... Kosovo will be in next years "ghost state" without rights...

Probably albanian leaders not thinking about this scenario before UDI ;)

fufi

pre 14 godina

What Serbs don't understand is the following.

If you can tell me how Serbia can ever rule Kosovo again, then I'll be on your side.

Tell me how Serbia can effectively and without violence go back into Kosovo and be able to control 2 million rowdy Albanians who have gotten a taste of independence for over a year.

Tell me how that is possible.

Keywords: rule effectively, without violence, 2 million Albanians.

If Serbia cannot do it, then it cannot have Kosovo. Just like it doesn't have Kosovo now.

You can talk about grand theories and recognitions and no UN membership. But at the end of the day, who cares? You want Kosovo as part of your country? Fine. But can you handle it with the above-mentioned conditions?

If you can't do that, then what exactly are you fighting for?

Or do you enjoy having 2 million Albanians fight you again until you resort to ethnic cleansing and NATO countries (Albania itself included this time) bomb you again?

Flamur Kosova

pre 14 godina

Every time I read Mr Jeremic's comments and then Serb's camp on this forum, it reminds me of Mr Comic Ali from Iraq. Actually he was Iraqi's Information Minister.

Master ks

pre 14 godina

What Jeremic is doing is to fight up to the least bullet!!!
Recall something interesting that for those countries that were able to recognize Kosova they will definitely do it soon. Since the situation became to recognize or not and for those countries which were expecting some moves on that direction, think that it is enough impulse to recognize the NEWBORN.

According to new history every time when Jeremic tried to destroy any moves for Kosova he received any boomerang!!! Isn't so?

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Marinels: "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM."

This foolishness must stop at once! How do you expect the IOC to support us if people make irresponsible and untrue statements like this. The Qu'ran states that the apostate is more damned than the infidel and you want to tell the world that Kosova is a state of apostasy. Islam, not albanism (a secular concept) is the religion of Kosova.
(Blerim, 25 May 2009 12:06)"

Thank you for clearing this long-time misconception. This is what many of us have known or suspected for a very long time, but it has been denied by many as well. It is not going to change anything, but at least it will be easier to post a link like this one and use it to our "advantage".

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1363436/posts

stari_vujadin

pre 14 godina

Keywords: rule effectively, without violence, 2 million Albanians.

(fufi, 25 May 2009 00:20)

fufi -
1) we don't want to rule you, which is why serbia is a democratic nation.
2) there shouldn't be violenece if everything is done ACCORDING TO LAW
3) 2 million albanians wouldn't be against having a job, heat and electricity - just the few thousand extremists that woulnd't be able to push their 'products' as effectively

Dragan, Toronto

pre 14 godina

While many lament at Jeremic, every Serb should commend him for the hard work he is undertaking to defend, that what is ours. A true leader - who in the future (would not surprise me if within less than five years or more) becomes president or prime minister of Serbia.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'your religion is not Islam but Albanianism (whatever that means)'

To an American this idea of an identity above religious identification seems obvious because we look at things the same way, with our "American civic religion." When an American leader wants to unite the people of this diverse nation he appeals to our common ideals and shared history, not to particular religious values.

It's interesting that we arrived at the same position by different historical routes - different groups of Albanians assumed different religions at different times, while America was built up of different peoples, each of which had its characteristic religion. The end result seems to be similar, though.

Common sense

pre 14 godina

Will they(recognize),will they not,will they,will they not...!What is it to be so excited about,whether they will or will not recognize independence of Kosovo?The Master/King(Mr.J BIDEN,VP of THE USA,God bless them) of the World has spoken just 4-5 days ago,Quote:Kosovo is an Independent,Sovereign Country,the Independence is IRREVERSIBLE...!So,for this matter,don't waste your time anymore,the question is WHEN not "IF" Serbia & Russia will recognize it's Independence.As for OIC,they will recognize Kosovo's Independence very soon,all of them incl.Iran,Syria,Egypt,Algeria,Titos DOG ghadafi's Lybia etc.

Adnan Dema, Lund (SWE)

pre 14 godina

#Peggy

I am muslim , my brother is christian catholic and my sister is christian orthodox. Our family is Albanian family! BTW, I am Kosovar...

Pejoni

pre 14 godina

OIC resolution for Kosovo passed without deleting the sentence "Recognize Kosovo". So what exactly did Saudi Arabia, Albania and Turkey failed with? Let's see if B92 publish this news.

Hekruan

pre 14 godina

The only OIC members that will stand behind Serbia will be Azerbaijan, Egypt, Syria and The Russian Puppets (Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan and Tajakistan).

Like Joe Biden said: "Independence is irreversible"

Mark

pre 14 godina

If the resolution had passed didn't mean automatic recognition by the OIC members it is still a decision to be taken by each country separately. Apart from the the countries that we already know that contest Kosovo independence.How many of the undecided ones Jeremic thinks will not recognize Kosovo in the near future?

johny

pre 14 godina

Somebody here said:
"I don't care if every Islamic nation does so, if every Western nation does so, unless Serbia recognizes Kosovo as independent, it's not independent. It's delusional to believe other..."

According to you, If everyone else in the world recognizes Kosova but Serbia doesn't then it is still not independent. I don't know whether you are being sarcastic or you mean it.

AgIm

pre 14 godina

"but it will still not provide access to the EU, UN, UEFA, FIFA, IOC, and so on. This limbo situation is going to last for a long time."

EU does not depend on you at all. The same with UN etc, they depend on Russia, not you. Loyalty is not in the Russian dictionary. We maybe in limbo but so will you EU application

fufi

pre 14 godina

"And what Croatia can effectively and without violence go back into Eastern Slavonia after SEVEN YEARS of serbian self-government on this territory (1991-1998??)"






I'm sorry, but your attempt to answer a complex question has led you to giving a simple answer. Your answer makes absolutely no sense in relation to Kosovo, specifically. I could care less about Slovenia and Croatia. They don't apply here.

Nobody else?

Alright then, if nobody can answer it, then what are you fighting for?

albano

pre 14 godina

So , B92 what happend, no update, on the resolution today, or just trying to avoid that, so Mr. Jeremic, dont blush?
OK if you did not get the news yet, resolution, is not chnaged at all, and for the Jeremic sake past.
It looks , you next headline today will be "Jermeic the worst FM of Serbia"

Amir

pre 14 godina

BTW:
With Jeremic's performance lately, I'm have strong believes that he must have met Mr. Pacolli somewhere, cuz he is becoming Mr. Hyseni's right hand man...

Milan

pre 14 godina

"Tell me how Serbia can effectively and without violence go back into Kosovo and be able to control 2 million rowdy Albanians who have gotten a taste of independence for over a year. "

And what Croatia can effectively and without violence go back into Eastern Slavonia after SEVEN YEARS of serbian self-government on this territory (1991-1998??

timotimekvej

pre 14 godina

Some albanian posters here are trying to fool themselves and others saying that PM Jeremic failed. Yes, resolution of Saudia Arabia was adopted, but with certain changes thats PM Jeremics point!

peter, sydney

pre 14 godina

Mike:
Read this article & associated comments with some amusement a while back & yes, originally it was only about the proposal as such.

And see lots of budding spin doctors have been busy downplaying the result since.


L*O*G*I*C & others:
19 new recognitions coming soon from the OIC conference? Surely you realise this twaddle is only for the gullible'.

And before you put your belief in someone like Hyseni, suggest you examine his track record - more likely he has been summoned to Washington for a detailed 'how to' list.


Beauty of Finland:
Am sure Finland has spectular scenary, much like Taiwan & just about any other place, but wouldn't bring up the topic of a comparison between Taiwan & self-styled 'Republic of Kosovo' if I were you.

Taiwan has in the past, been recognised by 58 countries. Now it is recognised by 22 (& not 25). 36 countries have withdrawn their recognition.

Including ALL of the G7.

Not that the G7 is really relevant these days as can't get anything done.

Is a lesson for the likes of Pacolli in this. Countries that are bribed to recognise a place cannot be expected to maintain their 'diplomatic stance' without further 'capital infusions'.

Have a nice day :)

Pro-Serbia

pre 14 godina

Another victory for Serbia and also there are still a majority of muslim countries still believes that the UN is the proper forum to resolve the separatism problem like the serbian province of kosovo.

Rod

pre 14 godina

>>It's interesting that we arrived at the same position by different historical routes - different groups of Albanians assumed different religions at different times, while America was built up of different peoples, each of which had its characteristic religion

gjon cima

pre 14 godina

It seems the resolution was approved today with full votes.

Far from sounding victorious I invite you guys to work for joining the EU together. We'll surely be better off.

Filip

pre 14 godina

The Resolution proposed by Saudi Arabia is aproved!

Thank you Saudi Arabia, Thank you muslim countries!

So it was untrue that the resolution was rejected!

Rod

pre 14 godina

Actually Amer, the USA was built by decendents of western europeans on the dead bodies of the native americans, through a policy known as manifest destiny, which is basically a nice word for genocide. In 1776 there were approx 6 million native americans living on the territory of what is now the continental United States.
Total this number is less than 900,000. The remaining native americans today live on what are known as reservations, which are essentially fenced in areas of desert, or other non ariable worthless patches of land, where nothing will grow, and there is no game left to hunt. In other words, the entire native american way of life was destroyed - this of course was a natural balance with nature, via give and take relationship with the land. Now native american reservations are forced to build casinos or sell their women off in brothels just to make ends meat to survive.

Coincidentally, this shameful
and undeniable truth about the USA draws an interesting parallel whith daily living conditions faced b Serbs, Roma, Gorani, and other non-albanians living in kosovo today. Its no wonder why albanians like you idolize the usa so much.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Now after the adoption of the OIC resolution Jeremic s/b called the minister of desinformation. And some Serbs want to see such a man as their future PM or president.

Pz

pre 14 godina

Blerim, Kosovo is not a religious country as you try to present it. No religion is ‘state official religion’.
Article 8 of Kosovo Constitution [Secular State]
“The Republic of Kosovo is a secular state and is neutral in matters of religious beliefs.”
So, what some here are referring "The religion of Albanians is ONLY ALBANISM." Has more to do with the unity of all Albanians, regardless of their religious background, as the great poet/writer Vaso Pasha has put it in his famous poem. Further, in his poem he doesn’t refer to Albanians In plural but rather singular “Feja e shqiptarit…”, because nations are constituted from individuals, who can be Muslims, Christians, Orthodox, etc. and by this he wanted to rise the awareness of all Albanians not ot fight each other on the religious basis, because that was the intention of the enemies "divide and conquer/rule"

Dulo

pre 14 godina

Mr Jeremic,

But what exactly did you win today? Surely you thought that your voice and Russia's voice will be stronger then Saudis, Bahrain's, Turkey's, Albania's etc?

(I think not, you know as well as anyone in the world that OIC will not reject Kosova)

It was a very cheap spin you pulled on readers, your voters, and to the serbian media?


But on the other hand I do understand you, as no matter how hard you try and no matter what you try, you just can not reverse the time that made Kosova what it is today. I am not Serb but if those countries of the OIC start recognising Kosova, I should get the very message you are sending by now.

All it is lost regarding Kosova, hope your voters are realising as your job has proven to be one of the most difficult jobs in the whole of Europe. Brick wall everywhere you go, oh I do understand you mate...

Nadeem

pre 14 godina

Understandably it's ironic enough that some predominantly Muslim nations refuse to recognize Kosovo's independence but what's worse is if these predominantly Muslim nations support or supported anti-Albanian regimes in Serbia.

pss

pre 14 godina

Amer, I truly loved your comment.
Peggy for once I think you are 100% right. The negatives from the OIC are more anti-American and not pro Serbian point of views.

Ardian

pre 14 godina

FACT:


Organisation of the Islamic Conference (23-25 May 2009)

RESOLUTIONS ON POLITICAL AFFAIRS ADOPTED BY THE 36TH SESSION OF THE COUNCIL OF FOREIGN MINISTERS JEDDAH, KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA (23-25 MAY, 2009)

Source: http://www.oic-oci.org/36cfm/w/en/res/36CFM-POL-RES-FINAL.pdf (page 33)

RESOLUTION NO. 14/36-POL ON THE SITUATION IN KOSOVO
The Thirty-Sixth Session of the Council of Foreign Ministers (Session of Enhancing Islamic Solidarity), held in Damascus, Syrian Arab Republic from 28 Jamadul Awal – 1 Jamadul Thani 1430 .H (23-25 May 2009);

Guided by the principles and purposes of the Charter of the United Nations, the Charter of the OIC, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenants on Human Rights, the Geneva Conventions of August 1949, 1951 as well as other instruments of international law;

Upholding the role of the U.N. in the peaceful settlement of disputes and maintenance of international peace and security;

Referring to the UN Security Council Resolutions No.1160 (of 31st of March 1998), No.1999 (of 23rd September 1998) No. 1203 (of 24th October 1998) No.1239 (of 14 May 1999) and 1244 of 10th of June 1999 and the relevant statements of its President.

Referring to Resolution No. 16/31 adopted at the Thirty-first Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers held in Istanbul on 14-16 June 2004; the Resolution No.36/34 of the 34th Session of the ICFM, Islamabad, 15-17 May 2007; the Final Communiqué of the 11th OIC Summit, Dakar, 13-14 March 2008; the Declaration of the OIC Ministerial Meeting in Kampala in June 2008 and in New York in September 2008 where is noted the Declaration of Independence by the Assembly of Kosovo of 17
February 2008;

Reaffirming the strong interest of OIC regarding the Muslims in the Balkans, and the importance of the stability in the whole Balkan region;

1. Takes note of the progress made towards strengthening the democracy in Kosovo, serving peace and stability in Kosovo and the whole region.

2. Further takes note of the accelerated UN Mission’s reconfiguration, deployment of EULEX throughout Kosovo, in compliance with UN Secretary General’s guidelines and the current Kosovo institutional and legal framework.

3. Welcomes the cooperation of Kosovo with the OIC Economic and Financial institutions, and calls on the international community, to continue contributing to the fostering of the Kosovo’s economy.

4. Requests the Secretary General to follow up the implementation of the present resolution, and to submit a report thereon to the 37th Session of the Council of Foreign Ministers.