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Friday, 22.05.2009.

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Biden visits U.S. military base in Kosovo

U.S. Vice-President Joseph Biden left Priština for Lebanon today, wrapping up his Balkan visit with a trip to the U.S. military base in Kosovo, Bondsteel.

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Rick

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society, which obviously never existed in this part of the world,” Biden said.

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!! That one statement just proves that Biden doesn't know ANYTHING about Serbian history. Kosovo has been the cradle of Serbian civilization since the 12th Century! What an insult by a man who supposedly came to the Balkans last week to promote peace. Instead, Biden chooses to promote intolerance, lies and stupidity!

lowe

pre 14 godina

"They'd have to be fed no matter where they were stationed.
(Amer, 24 May 2009 23:08) "

well, you wouldn't have needed to hire (and then feed) so many of them to station if you didn't go on a foreign base acquisition spree in the first place!

Really the US's financial woes today are largely self-inflicted!

But then, on the other hand, it may make sense to hire more soldiers from amongst the jobless Americans after all! Better to ship them off to foreign countries and maybe die there than have them, God forbid, prostest and cause mayhem in the streets of America!

Amer

pre 14 godina

'And I suppose it costs only $4000 to feed, clothe and arm the military personnel there? '

They'd have to be fed no matter where they were stationed.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"The US pays Cuba only something like $4000 a month to rent the property the base is located on, which is cheaper than what it's going to cost to hold these guys in the US. (Especially since Castro doesn't cash the checks.)

The question of closing Guantanamo is not one of money.
(Amer, 23 May 2009 23:12)"

And I suppose it costs only $4000 to feed, clothe and arm the military personnel there? Not to mention the need to maintain the logistics and early warning and other equipment there too?

dony

pre 14 godina

When the Serbian people decide to get switched on and bring a government into power with some guts they can close down bondsteel and send those yanks back to where they belong and turn it into a theme park.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"First that depends on Russia, not you! Russia yesterday joined the Contact Group again (left it after 2/18/2008) and US /EU do plenty of deals with the Russians. Second, you can expect to remain outside the EU "forever" as well. Do you know the deal Tadic made with Biden?
(AgIm, 23 May 2009 23:19)"

What makes you think that the deal with the West includes Kosovo? I am sorry to remind you that Kosovo really is not as important to the West as you seem to think. Other than your own wishful thinking, I don't think anything has changed substantially at all. And I didn't know that Russia ever officially left the Contact Group at all in the first place.

Actually I have more bad news for you. It is not just the Russians who will veto "Kosova"'s UN entry, the Chinese will do the same too. And if you expect either of them to give in to the West, look at Taiwan and think again! They have barred Taiwan for nearly 40 years now!

If anything, don't be too surprised if it is the West who will ultimately be the ones who climb down. Just like the US abandoned its Saigon lackeys in the Vietnam war in 1973. And a year earlier in 1972 it also abandoned Taiwan at the UN.

Amer

pre 14 godina

The US pays Cuba only something like $4000 a month to rent the property the base is located on, which is cheaper than what it's going to cost to hold these guys in the US. (Especially since Castro doesn't cash the checks.)

The question of closing Guantanamo is not one of money.

AgIm

pre 14 godina

"And until Pristina comes to an accommodation with Belgrade, it can expect to remain outside the UN -- just like Taiwan, but minus its wealth."

First that depends on Russia, not you! Russia yesterday joined the Contact Group again (left it after 2/18/2008) and US /EU do plenty of deals with the Russians. Second, you can expect to remain outside the EU "forever" as well. Do you know the deal Tadic made with Biden?

lowe

pre 14 godina

"Joseph Biden you are a friend of the truth!

By supporting the truth you are a friend of serbs too because they have been told lies about Kosova being theirs!
Thank you once again Joe !
(Filip, 23 May 2009 13:29) "

Well, I think the Serbians know better but are too polite to tell Biden to his face -- after all he was their guest -- that 1244 is still valid. And until Pristina comes to an accommodation with Belgrade, it can expect to remain outside the UN -- just like Taiwan, but minus its wealth.

Filip

pre 14 godina

Joseph Biden you are a friend of the truth!

By supporting the truth you are a friend of serbs too because they have been told lies about Kosova being theirs!
Thank you once again Joe !

lowe

pre 14 godina

"lowe you have your facts wrong. Obama tried to close the prison at Guantanamo not the military base---BIG DIFFERENCE!!! HUGE
(pss, 23 May 2009 04:34)"

well he failed in any case didn't he? And worse still, his Senate failed to see the financial writing on the wall for the US.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society" Biden

What he failed to mention was that the Americans were also building one of the largest American military bases in Europe. I wonder if they will go to Rwanda next and build a "society" there as well?
(MikeC, 22 May 2009 16:17)

I wish I had owned land there, because I will have given the US for free of charge.
Yes , MikeC you are right this is the bigest US Military based after the one in Germany, but that is soon to reduce drasticly and the one in Kosova to expand further. I am very happy that my compatriots in Kosova is a dear friend of USA, since I hold duel citizenship(Kosova and US).

Mike

pre 14 godina

Oh good, I was wondering if he was going to visit Colonial Headquarters. I mean Bondsteel is the one and only reason why we're there. Would be sort of stupid to speak to his subjects and not dine with the officers.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society" Biden

What he failed to mention was that the Americans were also building one of the largest American military bases in Europe. I wonder if they will go to Rwanda next and build a "society" there as well?

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

Well, he's gone and nothing changed. In fact, I think he may have insulted the Bosnian muslims with his speech. The security imposed in Beograd during his visit and his behavior just gave the opposition political ammunition against the ds. He made promises that america can't keep - how can america force the eu to accept Serbia? That and the economic crisis spells doom for the liberals in Beograd. And he did not win any friends among the Kosovo Serbs by crashing his way into Visoki Decani - he will regret that move in the future. All he did was commit america's foreign policy to the big denunciation by the ICJ next year. That, coupled with the economic crisis will severely damage america's relationship with the eu.

kufr

pre 14 godina

“You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society."

No, you removed one and installed a far worse tyranny, the North Atlantic Tyrrany Organization.

Then you installed former terrorists and (not so former) mafiosos as leaders in this protectorate. Remember what happened in those other places where you did the same thing? Yeah, Afghanistan, Iraq, shall I continue?
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

lowe

pre 14 godina

What irony! The US spent the last decade acquiring military bases abroad ..... and now finds that it can't afford their upkeep anymore! Obama tried today to close down Guantanamo but apparently there those in the Senate are still in la la land totally oblivious to their country's economic straits!

Dragan

pre 14 godina

“You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society. That is not an exaggeration, that is reality. You are rebuilding a society, which obviously never existed in this part of the world,” Biden said.'

More offensive insults from this Serb hater. A society never existed in that part of the world??
Wrong Joe, Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian civilization and a flourishing society existed there hundreds of years before the US was formed. That Visoki Decani Serbian monastery you visited yesterday, you know the UNESCO heritage site? Well it was established in 1327, and society DID exist there, Serbian society.
Yet another US 'diplomat' who knows nothing about history and has the attention span of a bug. No matter how much you lie and spread anti-Serb propoganda Joe, you can not change history, and you can not change the truth. Beauty is truth, and truth beauty.

ben

pre 14 godina

"You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society..." Biden.

I simply admire him.

Tunxh

pre 14 godina

Thank You Mr. Biden
Thank you USA troops.Thanks to your steady support and efforts more than 1 million ethnic Albanians were able to return to their homes. Now, Kosova is free and independent, and Albanians are free from the Serb yoke.

Milan

pre 14 godina

“You are protecting the innocent in Kosovo. You’ve been protecting the innocent for a decade and been offering the Kosovans the security they need and the space they need to build their independence, democracy and, most importantly, a multiethnic state,”

Where were they in 2004????

Dragan

pre 14 godina

“You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society. That is not an exaggeration, that is reality. You are rebuilding a society, which obviously never existed in this part of the world,” Biden said.'

More offensive insults from this Serb hater. A society never existed in that part of the world??
Wrong Joe, Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian civilization and a flourishing society existed there hundreds of years before the US was formed. That Visoki Decani Serbian monastery you visited yesterday, you know the UNESCO heritage site? Well it was established in 1327, and society DID exist there, Serbian society.
Yet another US 'diplomat' who knows nothing about history and has the attention span of a bug. No matter how much you lie and spread anti-Serb propoganda Joe, you can not change history, and you can not change the truth. Beauty is truth, and truth beauty.

Milan

pre 14 godina

“You are protecting the innocent in Kosovo. You’ve been protecting the innocent for a decade and been offering the Kosovans the security they need and the space they need to build their independence, democracy and, most importantly, a multiethnic state,”

Where were they in 2004????

Tunxh

pre 14 godina

Thank You Mr. Biden
Thank you USA troops.Thanks to your steady support and efforts more than 1 million ethnic Albanians were able to return to their homes. Now, Kosova is free and independent, and Albanians are free from the Serb yoke.

Mike

pre 14 godina

Oh good, I was wondering if he was going to visit Colonial Headquarters. I mean Bondsteel is the one and only reason why we're there. Would be sort of stupid to speak to his subjects and not dine with the officers.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society" Biden

What he failed to mention was that the Americans were also building one of the largest American military bases in Europe. I wonder if they will go to Rwanda next and build a "society" there as well?

kufr

pre 14 godina

“You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society."

No, you removed one and installed a far worse tyranny, the North Atlantic Tyrrany Organization.

Then you installed former terrorists and (not so former) mafiosos as leaders in this protectorate. Remember what happened in those other places where you did the same thing? Yeah, Afghanistan, Iraq, shall I continue?
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

ben

pre 14 godina

"You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society..." Biden.

I simply admire him.

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

Well, he's gone and nothing changed. In fact, I think he may have insulted the Bosnian muslims with his speech. The security imposed in Beograd during his visit and his behavior just gave the opposition political ammunition against the ds. He made promises that america can't keep - how can america force the eu to accept Serbia? That and the economic crisis spells doom for the liberals in Beograd. And he did not win any friends among the Kosovo Serbs by crashing his way into Visoki Decani - he will regret that move in the future. All he did was commit america's foreign policy to the big denunciation by the ICJ next year. That, coupled with the economic crisis will severely damage america's relationship with the eu.

lowe

pre 14 godina

What irony! The US spent the last decade acquiring military bases abroad ..... and now finds that it can't afford their upkeep anymore! Obama tried today to close down Guantanamo but apparently there those in the Senate are still in la la land totally oblivious to their country's economic straits!

lowe

pre 14 godina

"The US pays Cuba only something like $4000 a month to rent the property the base is located on, which is cheaper than what it's going to cost to hold these guys in the US. (Especially since Castro doesn't cash the checks.)

The question of closing Guantanamo is not one of money.
(Amer, 23 May 2009 23:12)"

And I suppose it costs only $4000 to feed, clothe and arm the military personnel there? Not to mention the need to maintain the logistics and early warning and other equipment there too?

lowe

pre 14 godina

"Joseph Biden you are a friend of the truth!

By supporting the truth you are a friend of serbs too because they have been told lies about Kosova being theirs!
Thank you once again Joe !
(Filip, 23 May 2009 13:29) "

Well, I think the Serbians know better but are too polite to tell Biden to his face -- after all he was their guest -- that 1244 is still valid. And until Pristina comes to an accommodation with Belgrade, it can expect to remain outside the UN -- just like Taiwan, but minus its wealth.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"lowe you have your facts wrong. Obama tried to close the prison at Guantanamo not the military base---BIG DIFFERENCE!!! HUGE
(pss, 23 May 2009 04:34)"

well he failed in any case didn't he? And worse still, his Senate failed to see the financial writing on the wall for the US.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"First that depends on Russia, not you! Russia yesterday joined the Contact Group again (left it after 2/18/2008) and US /EU do plenty of deals with the Russians. Second, you can expect to remain outside the EU "forever" as well. Do you know the deal Tadic made with Biden?
(AgIm, 23 May 2009 23:19)"

What makes you think that the deal with the West includes Kosovo? I am sorry to remind you that Kosovo really is not as important to the West as you seem to think. Other than your own wishful thinking, I don't think anything has changed substantially at all. And I didn't know that Russia ever officially left the Contact Group at all in the first place.

Actually I have more bad news for you. It is not just the Russians who will veto "Kosova"'s UN entry, the Chinese will do the same too. And if you expect either of them to give in to the West, look at Taiwan and think again! They have barred Taiwan for nearly 40 years now!

If anything, don't be too surprised if it is the West who will ultimately be the ones who climb down. Just like the US abandoned its Saigon lackeys in the Vietnam war in 1973. And a year earlier in 1972 it also abandoned Taiwan at the UN.

Filip

pre 14 godina

Joseph Biden you are a friend of the truth!

By supporting the truth you are a friend of serbs too because they have been told lies about Kosova being theirs!
Thank you once again Joe !

dony

pre 14 godina

When the Serbian people decide to get switched on and bring a government into power with some guts they can close down bondsteel and send those yanks back to where they belong and turn it into a theme park.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"They'd have to be fed no matter where they were stationed.
(Amer, 24 May 2009 23:08) "

well, you wouldn't have needed to hire (and then feed) so many of them to station if you didn't go on a foreign base acquisition spree in the first place!

Really the US's financial woes today are largely self-inflicted!

But then, on the other hand, it may make sense to hire more soldiers from amongst the jobless Americans after all! Better to ship them off to foreign countries and maybe die there than have them, God forbid, prostest and cause mayhem in the streets of America!

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society" Biden

What he failed to mention was that the Americans were also building one of the largest American military bases in Europe. I wonder if they will go to Rwanda next and build a "society" there as well?
(MikeC, 22 May 2009 16:17)

I wish I had owned land there, because I will have given the US for free of charge.
Yes , MikeC you are right this is the bigest US Military based after the one in Germany, but that is soon to reduce drasticly and the one in Kosova to expand further. I am very happy that my compatriots in Kosova is a dear friend of USA, since I hold duel citizenship(Kosova and US).

AgIm

pre 14 godina

"And until Pristina comes to an accommodation with Belgrade, it can expect to remain outside the UN -- just like Taiwan, but minus its wealth."

First that depends on Russia, not you! Russia yesterday joined the Contact Group again (left it after 2/18/2008) and US /EU do plenty of deals with the Russians. Second, you can expect to remain outside the EU "forever" as well. Do you know the deal Tadic made with Biden?

Rick

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society, which obviously never existed in this part of the world,” Biden said.

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!! That one statement just proves that Biden doesn't know ANYTHING about Serbian history. Kosovo has been the cradle of Serbian civilization since the 12th Century! What an insult by a man who supposedly came to the Balkans last week to promote peace. Instead, Biden chooses to promote intolerance, lies and stupidity!

Amer

pre 14 godina

The US pays Cuba only something like $4000 a month to rent the property the base is located on, which is cheaper than what it's going to cost to hold these guys in the US. (Especially since Castro doesn't cash the checks.)

The question of closing Guantanamo is not one of money.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'And I suppose it costs only $4000 to feed, clothe and arm the military personnel there? '

They'd have to be fed no matter where they were stationed.

ben

pre 14 godina

"You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society..." Biden.

I simply admire him.

Tunxh

pre 14 godina

Thank You Mr. Biden
Thank you USA troops.Thanks to your steady support and efforts more than 1 million ethnic Albanians were able to return to their homes. Now, Kosova is free and independent, and Albanians are free from the Serb yoke.

Milan

pre 14 godina

“You are protecting the innocent in Kosovo. You’ve been protecting the innocent for a decade and been offering the Kosovans the security they need and the space they need to build their independence, democracy and, most importantly, a multiethnic state,”

Where were they in 2004????

Dragan

pre 14 godina

“You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society. That is not an exaggeration, that is reality. You are rebuilding a society, which obviously never existed in this part of the world,” Biden said.'

More offensive insults from this Serb hater. A society never existed in that part of the world??
Wrong Joe, Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian civilization and a flourishing society existed there hundreds of years before the US was formed. That Visoki Decani Serbian monastery you visited yesterday, you know the UNESCO heritage site? Well it was established in 1327, and society DID exist there, Serbian society.
Yet another US 'diplomat' who knows nothing about history and has the attention span of a bug. No matter how much you lie and spread anti-Serb propoganda Joe, you can not change history, and you can not change the truth. Beauty is truth, and truth beauty.

Filip

pre 14 godina

Joseph Biden you are a friend of the truth!

By supporting the truth you are a friend of serbs too because they have been told lies about Kosova being theirs!
Thank you once again Joe !

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society" Biden

What he failed to mention was that the Americans were also building one of the largest American military bases in Europe. I wonder if they will go to Rwanda next and build a "society" there as well?
(MikeC, 22 May 2009 16:17)

I wish I had owned land there, because I will have given the US for free of charge.
Yes , MikeC you are right this is the bigest US Military based after the one in Germany, but that is soon to reduce drasticly and the one in Kosova to expand further. I am very happy that my compatriots in Kosova is a dear friend of USA, since I hold duel citizenship(Kosova and US).

kufr

pre 14 godina

“You know that you’ve showed the world and continue to show what happens when a nation decides to fight together against tyranny and build a free society."

No, you removed one and installed a far worse tyranny, the North Atlantic Tyrrany Organization.

Then you installed former terrorists and (not so former) mafiosos as leaders in this protectorate. Remember what happened in those other places where you did the same thing? Yeah, Afghanistan, Iraq, shall I continue?
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

AgIm

pre 14 godina

"And until Pristina comes to an accommodation with Belgrade, it can expect to remain outside the UN -- just like Taiwan, but minus its wealth."

First that depends on Russia, not you! Russia yesterday joined the Contact Group again (left it after 2/18/2008) and US /EU do plenty of deals with the Russians. Second, you can expect to remain outside the EU "forever" as well. Do you know the deal Tadic made with Biden?

MikeC

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society" Biden

What he failed to mention was that the Americans were also building one of the largest American military bases in Europe. I wonder if they will go to Rwanda next and build a "society" there as well?

lowe

pre 14 godina

What irony! The US spent the last decade acquiring military bases abroad ..... and now finds that it can't afford their upkeep anymore! Obama tried today to close down Guantanamo but apparently there those in the Senate are still in la la land totally oblivious to their country's economic straits!

Mike

pre 14 godina

Oh good, I was wondering if he was going to visit Colonial Headquarters. I mean Bondsteel is the one and only reason why we're there. Would be sort of stupid to speak to his subjects and not dine with the officers.

Amer

pre 14 godina

The US pays Cuba only something like $4000 a month to rent the property the base is located on, which is cheaper than what it's going to cost to hold these guys in the US. (Especially since Castro doesn't cash the checks.)

The question of closing Guantanamo is not one of money.

JohnBoy

pre 14 godina

Well, he's gone and nothing changed. In fact, I think he may have insulted the Bosnian muslims with his speech. The security imposed in Beograd during his visit and his behavior just gave the opposition political ammunition against the ds. He made promises that america can't keep - how can america force the eu to accept Serbia? That and the economic crisis spells doom for the liberals in Beograd. And he did not win any friends among the Kosovo Serbs by crashing his way into Visoki Decani - he will regret that move in the future. All he did was commit america's foreign policy to the big denunciation by the ICJ next year. That, coupled with the economic crisis will severely damage america's relationship with the eu.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"The US pays Cuba only something like $4000 a month to rent the property the base is located on, which is cheaper than what it's going to cost to hold these guys in the US. (Especially since Castro doesn't cash the checks.)

The question of closing Guantanamo is not one of money.
(Amer, 23 May 2009 23:12)"

And I suppose it costs only $4000 to feed, clothe and arm the military personnel there? Not to mention the need to maintain the logistics and early warning and other equipment there too?

lowe

pre 14 godina

"Joseph Biden you are a friend of the truth!

By supporting the truth you are a friend of serbs too because they have been told lies about Kosova being theirs!
Thank you once again Joe !
(Filip, 23 May 2009 13:29) "

Well, I think the Serbians know better but are too polite to tell Biden to his face -- after all he was their guest -- that 1244 is still valid. And until Pristina comes to an accommodation with Belgrade, it can expect to remain outside the UN -- just like Taiwan, but minus its wealth.

dony

pre 14 godina

When the Serbian people decide to get switched on and bring a government into power with some guts they can close down bondsteel and send those yanks back to where they belong and turn it into a theme park.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"First that depends on Russia, not you! Russia yesterday joined the Contact Group again (left it after 2/18/2008) and US /EU do plenty of deals with the Russians. Second, you can expect to remain outside the EU "forever" as well. Do you know the deal Tadic made with Biden?
(AgIm, 23 May 2009 23:19)"

What makes you think that the deal with the West includes Kosovo? I am sorry to remind you that Kosovo really is not as important to the West as you seem to think. Other than your own wishful thinking, I don't think anything has changed substantially at all. And I didn't know that Russia ever officially left the Contact Group at all in the first place.

Actually I have more bad news for you. It is not just the Russians who will veto "Kosova"'s UN entry, the Chinese will do the same too. And if you expect either of them to give in to the West, look at Taiwan and think again! They have barred Taiwan for nearly 40 years now!

If anything, don't be too surprised if it is the West who will ultimately be the ones who climb down. Just like the US abandoned its Saigon lackeys in the Vietnam war in 1973. And a year earlier in 1972 it also abandoned Taiwan at the UN.

Amer

pre 14 godina

'And I suppose it costs only $4000 to feed, clothe and arm the military personnel there? '

They'd have to be fed no matter where they were stationed.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"lowe you have your facts wrong. Obama tried to close the prison at Guantanamo not the military base---BIG DIFFERENCE!!! HUGE
(pss, 23 May 2009 04:34)"

well he failed in any case didn't he? And worse still, his Senate failed to see the financial writing on the wall for the US.

lowe

pre 14 godina

"They'd have to be fed no matter where they were stationed.
(Amer, 24 May 2009 23:08) "

well, you wouldn't have needed to hire (and then feed) so many of them to station if you didn't go on a foreign base acquisition spree in the first place!

Really the US's financial woes today are largely self-inflicted!

But then, on the other hand, it may make sense to hire more soldiers from amongst the jobless Americans after all! Better to ship them off to foreign countries and maybe die there than have them, God forbid, prostest and cause mayhem in the streets of America!

Rick

pre 14 godina

"You are rebuilding a society, which obviously never existed in this part of the world,” Biden said.

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!! That one statement just proves that Biden doesn't know ANYTHING about Serbian history. Kosovo has been the cradle of Serbian civilization since the 12th Century! What an insult by a man who supposedly came to the Balkans last week to promote peace. Instead, Biden chooses to promote intolerance, lies and stupidity!