Some satisfied, others irked by Biden visit

serbia forget NATO membership albania is a NATO member and will veto any membership of serbia in NATO
dan-ch

Thank's! We'll do you a favour some other time!

dan-ch

Actually, Serbia has not stated that membership in NATO is a goal. Austria, Sweden, Finland and Ireland have also not, so why should Serbia? Also, what you are saying about Albania is nonsense (probably just a cheap provocation), because Albania has a) stated that it supports Serbia in Euro-Atlantic organizations b) no balls to offend other Western powers who would like to see Serbia integrate with the West. That would be like me saying Serbia will veto Albania's EU ambitions when they join the EU (because they will join first, given how weak Albania's economy is).

Albania is just an USA puppet in NATO!

PaulUK

Everybody in NATO is US pupet to certain degree.However Albanians have always been somebody's puppet that is the difference between them and most other NATO members.

Dan-ch - even if Serbia did want to join Nato it is the Security Council and not fellow Nato members which have the right to veto membership.

Nato is not an independent entity. It works under UN instruction. It actually goes against the UN charter for Nato to act without UN permission.

"New era in Serbia-U.S. relations"

The rapist to the raped:

-"new era in our relations!" (don´t bend over for the soap)

Of course the right thing to do for any victim of aggression is to marry the aggressor (€U/US"relations")!

Go East Serbia, and leave the loosers and their local clients behind. Soon enough you will have your revenge, not alone but backed by two superpowers...

GOD HELP US!!!

"if you do what US tells you (Kosova) and you are in no negotiating position."
agim

Kosovo is in no position to dictate to anyone. You are a welfare territory and not in a position to say anything except "thank you" America for the food stamps.
Why don't you tell us to recognize Kosovo and stop resisting in Northern Kosovo if you are so mighty powerfull? Albanians are just frustrated that they live in a doomed territory without a future. The US has begun to realize what horrible mistake they have done. Besides, Serbia is the most powerful and most important country in Western balkans so naturally the Americans wan't good relations with the Serbs. The US has more to gain from Serbia than the Albanians.

Thank you, thank you, thank you Albania, for ever!

I actually promised myself not to comment on this anymore. But when I read that Biden is coming to Belgrade I just had to comment. The same Biden who said “Serbs are illiterate degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists” on CNN. Every friendly word from Tadic to this is wasted. He made his career on whipping up hatred against Serbs. Do not trust a word.

"No country of the former communist bloc has become an EU member before it joined NATO, he noted."

It's not true cause GDR , Poland and Chekhoslovakia did not have such preconditions. Besides when necessary they make any exclusions they need from any rule they have.

serbia forget NATO membership albania is a NATO member and will veto any membership of serbia in NATO

"new era in Serbia-U.S. relations."

I am afraid he means a new position from Kamasutra.

Nato is not an independent entity. It works under UN instruction. It actually goes against the UN charter for Nato to act without UN permission.
(kate, 18 May 2009 12:11)

Since when NATO is taking order from UN. What a joke!!!

Peter Sudyka:

stop dreaming serbia cant enter EU without being a NATO member.all ex-communist states that have joined EU have first become NATO members! and for EU membership af albania: albania is much further than serbia in EU membership! SAA for albania came into force on 1.april.2009 and albania also applied officialy for EU membership on 28.april.2009 and where is serbia? no SAA and no application for EU membership so stop dreaming.

and for all:

albania will also veto any membership in NATO for serbia even serbia recognizes kosovo we cannot allow our enemies (serbia) to join NATO

--"Also, what you are saying about Albania is nonsense (probably just a cheap provocation), because Albania has a) stated that it supports Serbia in Euro-Atlantic organizations b) no balls to offend other Western powers who would like to see Serbia integrate with the West. That would be like me saying Serbia will veto Albania's EU ambitions when they join the EU (because they will join first, given how weak Albania's economy is)."

Petar,
first: serbia isn't going anywhere near NATO without recognizing Kosova. Border and territorial "problems" are a no-no. Secondly, ONLY Albania and Cyprus will have an economic growth this year. http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/roundup/2009/05/15/roundup-bs-03 Serbia is /was under bankruptcy threat and facing 5-10% decline. Albania's main problem is corruption and informal economy. If the trend continues, Serbia's 30% advantage in GDP /PPP will disappear very soon as more people register legally and pay taxes in Albania. Oh, and just last year Albania signed 3 Billion in energy investments from Italy alone. With NATO membership (done!) and property registration (almost done) more and more investments will flow, especially to the beautiful coast.

Without solving Kosova (until now recognized by 22/27 EU members) Serbia isn't going anywhere, regardless of the public statements. Then there is Vojvodina, Mladic, Croatian border delineation, coming to terms with the 1990's, etc. Albania has no such problems.

Srbija was bombed and battered and future generations not born yet were DU poisoned yet we have enough grace and Christian compassion to as a nation welcome those who slaughtered us for the benefit of Albanians and Eastern Wahhabis.

Dont missunderstand, Biden is not going to beg Serbia for better relations. Serbia needs US more than Us Serbia.

These "gastarbajteri" from CH (Switzerland) have easy job to drink schnaps but preach water and pretend to know everything about EU and NATO.

Why not drink some water and move to PS or BG instead of talking from the safe distance of world's most selfish state?

I thought all politicians practiced some sort of diplomacy until I read what Biden said about Serbs.

He should not be welcomed in Serbia. Tadic should refuse to accept him. Anyone else but Biden or Clinton.

Biden is so arrogant that he can make such derogatory statements about the whole race of people and without apologizing is still made welcome.

I can only hope that enough Serbs go to the streets in protest of this man. Write his words on banners and display them so that he is confronted with what he said the whole time he is there. Tadic needs this also to be reminded of who he is welcoming.

Like many already stated, I too, do not agree with Biden's visit.
Serbs who disagree with him should stage a pieceful protest or a silent one - perhaps posters or something which would indicate that such man is not welcomed in Serbia.
He is a war mongorer, and a hate speaker, and should be treated as such.

When have we all stopped questioning Western morality?

This man leads an aggressive campaign to destroy other cultures in name of ''American way of life''.
His country seeks to destroy Eastern cultures, Chinese culture, Japanese culture, Middle Eastern culture, and overwhelmingly and most importantly European culture.
Begining from France and Germany (yes, Germany) all the way to Serbia and eastern.

I do not agree with this collective American culture - we all have wonderful long traditions and cultures that should be celebrated, not discarded because Americans believe it should.
Europe should exist as a collection of wonderful traditions and peoples, not some superficial 'one European' culture.

dan-ch and Agim

There is no such law that states that a country must be in NATO to join the EU. Also, Albania may be applying for candidate status, but that doesn't mean they will join before Serbia, because Albania was already a NATO candidate by 1999 (when Poland, Czech and Hungary joined), and it took them considerably long, so who says they will beat Serbia into the club? Also, the fact that there is growth in Albania only shows how behind and how much catching up Albania has with the rest of Europe.

Poor Serbia, it has been a rogue state for so long that even a visit by a US V president is a major event. Don't get your hopes up though, you will get in EU if you do what US tells you (Kosova) and you are in no negotiating position.

Again, Biden's propaganda campaign visit is a waste of U.S. taxpayer money (if they have any left after the finacial havoc) and an insult to every Serb everywhere in the world...

I would love it if Biden takes a photo in front of the still-burned-out and destroyed television buildings in Belgrade with his thumbs up.

'Dan-ch - even if Serbia did want to join Nato it is the Security Council and not fellow Nato members which have the right to veto membership.'

Someone should notify Macedonia immediately to stop worrying about Greece - how could everyone have overlooked this?

And Russia sure looks silly about worrying about Ukraine and Georgia possibly joining, when it can simply veto their admission.

The main purpose of Biden's visit is to "TWIST" the mind of Tadic so that Serbia should finally give up kosovo. as they said kosovo is a done deal...Serbian people should carefully watch your president

Biden should not be welcome and send him back to washington

it´s quite intersting, ...most of the writers here seem to believe that NATO will exist forever...

kids,... they merely survived the fall of the iron curtain by creating the legend of "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide" in southern Serbia, in order to show some muscle, and to present some more or less believable justification for their own existence.

let´s not be naive, NATO has no promising future. actually it´s a US-american foreign-policy-instrument, with virtually no legitimacy.

our dear albanian friends are over-emphasizing NATO´s importance for obvious reasons, that´s quite understandable, given that they have nothing else to cling to.

but, the emerging new powers of the future will teach them otherwise.

last but not least, it is called NORTH ATLANTIC treaty organisation...

what have they lost in SOUTH EASTERN europe, not to mention Afghanistan...???

:)


good luck with NATO, my dear albanian friends... you will need it.

No Peggy, in now way I imply that all crimes were committed by Serbs, and I understand that some Albanians have done some bad and terrible things and I really hope justice will reach them sooner or latter.
What I in a way wanted to say in regards to your comment on Biden, is that he only made those statements after Serb regime was continuously committing those crimes. And now it is really irrelevant, to my understanding, for him to apologize for having said something that truly happened. Instead, it would have been much “healthier” for the whole region if those who truly committed crimes come out and publicly apologize, and in this case not to the world, but to the victims and their families.

Ireland, became member of EU without being a member of NATO!

# 26: “Biden is so arrogant that he can make such derogatory statements about the whole race of people and without apologizing is still made welcome.”

I agree to some extant! In no regime the whole “race” (proper saying: nation) can be responsible for the regime’s deeds. But, in the case of Kosovo, the regime had overwhelming support of the people to crush, as the regime said, the Albanian irredentists, or the terrorists. Instead, this regime, (army, police units, paramilitary groups, etc) killed thousands civilians (babies, elderly, women), raped many young women, burned thousands households (including my house), etc etc.
Has anyone ever come out publicly and apologize for what has happened in Kosovo?? Committing crimes and never apologizing (now by the democratic government), in my opinion, means upholding to those policies exercised by the previous regime.
“Laying the blame for what occurred in Bosnia on the shoulders of one man, even a cynical opportunist like Milosevic, is patently absurd. By encouraging the arming of Bosnian Serb militants and providing them with logistical support he should certainly be brought to justice but other factors, including the inaction of Europe and an absurd UN arms embargo that only penalised the mostly Muslim government of the fledgling state, thus allowing the heavily armed Croats and Serbs to move ahead with their ethnic cleansing, were also factors. It should also be mentioned that both Milosevic and Tudjman seemed to have the enthusiastic support of most of their countrymen.
When faced with real opposition Milosevic has always folded, as he did in October of 2000 when he was finally driven from power after yet another poorly orchestrated electoral fraud. One of the most horrible things that Serbians faced in the wake of his retreat was how little he had been opposed in Serbia over the years.6 In 1996 large numbers of protesters took to the streets to protest an earlier foray into electoral fraud, this time in non-presidential elections, and he was forced into a compromise, turning over, among others, the position of Mayor of Belgrade to the Opposition. Many members of the “United Opposition” who turned against him after the country was bombed by Nato and economic sanctions left the country in a shambles, were some of his most important allies on the Right and their rhetoric was even more extreme than his own.7
The ineptness of Milosevic’s handling of the Kosovo situation in the late 1990’s showed that he was anything but the “mad genius” he was portrayed as in the West. It was in many ways the lack of will shown by Europe and the United States during the Bosnia crisis that allowed this man of rather average intelligence to manipulate the peace process. When faced with daily bombings and dwindling popularity over Kosovo, Milosevic once again tried to wrap himself in the role of peace-maker but this time not even the once credulous Clinton Administration was buying it.
The tragedies that followed in Milosevic’s wake are not his sole responsibility. The simple truth is that Slobodan Milosevic probably never committed a murder with his own hands: there were plenty of people around who were willing to do his killing for him. Let’s hope that his successors honor all the victims of his Presidency and not just those who share their national identity or there will be more Bosnias, more crises and more hatred in the very heart of Europe in the years to come.”
1 Simic Charles. “Anatomy of a Murderer.” New York Review of Books. January 20th, 2000.
2 Op. Cit. Simic, Charles.
3 Sullivan, Stacy. “Milosevic’s Willing Executioners.” The New Republic. May 10th, 1999
4 1)Op. Cit. Simic, Charles; 2)Cable News Network. CNN Newsmaker Profiles: Slobodan Milosevic.” CNN.com, 1998.
5 Richard Kaplan. “Europe’s Third World.” The Atlantic Monthly. July, 1989.
6 Op. Cit. Sullivan, Stacy.
7 Laura Rozen. “Milosevic’s Fizzling Opposition.” Salon.com. June 3rd, 2000.

Only when the SRS says something like this is it meaningful.

I do not understand why there is any discussion of Serbia in NATO. Russia will never allow it and I do not think that NATO nations have a trust level to actually let Serbia in.

No Olf, U.S. needs Serbia on her side more. The Americans need a strong regional player with stability to help them consolidate there conquests and vassals.

Peter. Albania has a bright future and has a beautiful coast with a ritch land. It is sad that we are where we are but we are not as bad as you think or want to make it. It is a fact that Poland besides Romania and Bulgaria that just joined is the poorest country in European Union even after reciving a substantial amount of money from eu. Polaks are consider second class citizens in majority of European Union, likewise as Albanias. Dont preach to the priest please.

PZ wrote:

# 26: “Biden is so arrogant that he can make such derogatory statements about the whole race of people and without apologizing is still made welcome.”

I agree to some extant! In no regime the whole “race” (proper saying: nation) can be responsible for the regime’s deeds.

PZ, I meant race not nation because Serbs live outside Serbia as well. He smeared the whole race.

You talk of apologies to Albanians. What about apologies to the Serbs from Albanians? Are you implying that only Serbs committed crimes and only Serbs need to apologize to the world?

How about everyone apologize to everyone and we'll leave it at that. I agree, crimes were committed by the Serbs and those Serbs are now arrested and tried, but, crimes were also committed by the Albanians and those Albanians are rewarded with high positions in Pristina now.

Again, Biden's propaganda campaign visit is a waste of U.S. taxpayer money (if they have any left after the finacial havoc) and an insult to every Serb everywhere in the world...
(Dragan, Toronto, 19 May 2009 02:45)
Dragan:
You better write this artical about your FM Jeremic, who is using taxpayers money in Serbia. Traveling to countries which there is no success at all. BTW, US is richer than Serbia, but ask to those people who live in Serbia. How they feel, when Jeremic travels to countries and he tells the same lies as always.

serbia forget NATO membership albania is a NATO member and will veto any membership of serbia in NATO

Peter Sudyka:

stop dreaming serbia cant enter EU without being a NATO member.all ex-communist states that have joined EU have first become NATO members! and for EU membership af albania: albania is much further than serbia in EU membership! SAA for albania came into force on 1.april.2009 and albania also applied officialy for EU membership on 28.april.2009 and where is serbia? no SAA and no application for EU membership so stop dreaming.

and for all:

albania will also veto any membership in NATO for serbia even serbia recognizes kosovo we cannot allow our enemies (serbia) to join NATO

Poor Serbia, it has been a rogue state for so long that even a visit by a US V president is a major event. Don't get your hopes up though, you will get in EU if you do what US tells you (Kosova) and you are in no negotiating position.

Dont missunderstand, Biden is not going to beg Serbia for better relations. Serbia needs US more than Us Serbia.

Albania is just an USA puppet in NATO!

"if you do what US tells you (Kosova) and you are in no negotiating position."
agim

Kosovo is in no position to dictate to anyone. You are a welfare territory and not in a position to say anything except "thank you" America for the food stamps.
Why don't you tell us to recognize Kosovo and stop resisting in Northern Kosovo if you are so mighty powerfull? Albanians are just frustrated that they live in a doomed territory without a future. The US has begun to realize what horrible mistake they have done. Besides, Serbia is the most powerful and most important country in Western balkans so naturally the Americans wan't good relations with the Serbs. The US has more to gain from Serbia than the Albanians.

dan-ch

Actually, Serbia has not stated that membership in NATO is a goal. Austria, Sweden, Finland and Ireland have also not, so why should Serbia? Also, what you are saying about Albania is nonsense (probably just a cheap provocation), because Albania has a) stated that it supports Serbia in Euro-Atlantic organizations b) no balls to offend other Western powers who would like to see Serbia integrate with the West. That would be like me saying Serbia will veto Albania's EU ambitions when they join the EU (because they will join first, given how weak Albania's economy is).

--"Also, what you are saying about Albania is nonsense (probably just a cheap provocation), because Albania has a) stated that it supports Serbia in Euro-Atlantic organizations b) no balls to offend other Western powers who would like to see Serbia integrate with the West. That would be like me saying Serbia will veto Albania's EU ambitions when they join the EU (because they will join first, given how weak Albania's economy is)."

Petar,
first: serbia isn't going anywhere near NATO without recognizing Kosova. Border and territorial "problems" are a no-no. Secondly, ONLY Albania and Cyprus will have an economic growth this year. http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/roundup/2009/05/15/roundup-bs-03 Serbia is /was under bankruptcy threat and facing 5-10% decline. Albania's main problem is corruption and informal economy. If the trend continues, Serbia's 30% advantage in GDP /PPP will disappear very soon as more people register legally and pay taxes in Albania. Oh, and just last year Albania signed 3 Billion in energy investments from Italy alone. With NATO membership (done!) and property registration (almost done) more and more investments will flow, especially to the beautiful coast.

Without solving Kosova (until now recognized by 22/27 EU members) Serbia isn't going anywhere, regardless of the public statements. Then there is Vojvodina, Mladic, Croatian border delineation, coming to terms with the 1990's, etc. Albania has no such problems.

serbia forget NATO membership albania is a NATO member and will veto any membership of serbia in NATO
dan-ch

Thank's! We'll do you a favour some other time!

PaulUK

Everybody in NATO is US pupet to certain degree.However Albanians have always been somebody's puppet that is the difference between them and most other NATO members.

"New era in Serbia-U.S. relations"

The rapist to the raped:

-"new era in our relations!" (don´t bend over for the soap)

Of course the right thing to do for any victim of aggression is to marry the aggressor (€U/US"relations")!

Go East Serbia, and leave the loosers and their local clients behind. Soon enough you will have your revenge, not alone but backed by two superpowers...

Thank you, thank you, thank you Albania, for ever!

Dan-ch - even if Serbia did want to join Nato it is the Security Council and not fellow Nato members which have the right to veto membership.

Nato is not an independent entity. It works under UN instruction. It actually goes against the UN charter for Nato to act without UN permission.

Nato is not an independent entity. It works under UN instruction. It actually goes against the UN charter for Nato to act without UN permission.
(kate, 18 May 2009 12:11)

Since when NATO is taking order from UN. What a joke!!!

dan-ch and Agim

There is no such law that states that a country must be in NATO to join the EU. Also, Albania may be applying for candidate status, but that doesn't mean they will join before Serbia, because Albania was already a NATO candidate by 1999 (when Poland, Czech and Hungary joined), and it took them considerably long, so who says they will beat Serbia into the club? Also, the fact that there is growth in Albania only shows how behind and how much catching up Albania has with the rest of Europe.

These "gastarbajteri" from CH (Switzerland) have easy job to drink schnaps but preach water and pretend to know everything about EU and NATO.

Why not drink some water and move to PS or BG instead of talking from the safe distance of world's most selfish state?

Srbija was bombed and battered and future generations not born yet were DU poisoned yet we have enough grace and Christian compassion to as a nation welcome those who slaughtered us for the benefit of Albanians and Eastern Wahhabis.

'Dan-ch - even if Serbia did want to join Nato it is the Security Council and not fellow Nato members which have the right to veto membership.'

Someone should notify Macedonia immediately to stop worrying about Greece - how could everyone have overlooked this?

And Russia sure looks silly about worrying about Ukraine and Georgia possibly joining, when it can simply veto their admission.

Like many already stated, I too, do not agree with Biden's visit.
Serbs who disagree with him should stage a pieceful protest or a silent one - perhaps posters or something which would indicate that such man is not welcomed in Serbia.
He is a war mongorer, and a hate speaker, and should be treated as such.

When have we all stopped questioning Western morality?

This man leads an aggressive campaign to destroy other cultures in name of ''American way of life''.
His country seeks to destroy Eastern cultures, Chinese culture, Japanese culture, Middle Eastern culture, and overwhelmingly and most importantly European culture.
Begining from France and Germany (yes, Germany) all the way to Serbia and eastern.

I do not agree with this collective American culture - we all have wonderful long traditions and cultures that should be celebrated, not discarded because Americans believe it should.
Europe should exist as a collection of wonderful traditions and peoples, not some superficial 'one European' culture.

I would love it if Biden takes a photo in front of the still-burned-out and destroyed television buildings in Belgrade with his thumbs up.

I thought all politicians practiced some sort of diplomacy until I read what Biden said about Serbs.

He should not be welcomed in Serbia. Tadic should refuse to accept him. Anyone else but Biden or Clinton.

Biden is so arrogant that he can make such derogatory statements about the whole race of people and without apologizing is still made welcome.

I can only hope that enough Serbs go to the streets in protest of this man. Write his words on banners and display them so that he is confronted with what he said the whole time he is there. Tadic needs this also to be reminded of who he is welcoming.

Again, Biden's propaganda campaign visit is a waste of U.S. taxpayer money (if they have any left after the finacial havoc) and an insult to every Serb everywhere in the world...
(Dragan, Toronto, 19 May 2009 02:45)
Dragan:
You better write this artical about your FM Jeremic, who is using taxpayers money in Serbia. Traveling to countries which there is no success at all. BTW, US is richer than Serbia, but ask to those people who live in Serbia. How they feel, when Jeremic travels to countries and he tells the same lies as always.

GOD HELP US!!!

"new era in Serbia-U.S. relations."

I am afraid he means a new position from Kamasutra.

I actually promised myself not to comment on this anymore. But when I read that Biden is coming to Belgrade I just had to comment. The same Biden who said “Serbs are illiterate degenerates, baby killers, butchers and rapists” on CNN. Every friendly word from Tadic to this is wasted. He made his career on whipping up hatred against Serbs. Do not trust a word.

# 26: “Biden is so arrogant that he can make such derogatory statements about the whole race of people and without apologizing is still made welcome.”

I agree to some extant! In no regime the whole “race” (proper saying: nation) can be responsible for the regime’s deeds. But, in the case of Kosovo, the regime had overwhelming support of the people to crush, as the regime said, the Albanian irredentists, or the terrorists. Instead, this regime, (army, police units, paramilitary groups, etc) killed thousands civilians (babies, elderly, women), raped many young women, burned thousands households (including my house), etc etc.
Has anyone ever come out publicly and apologize for what has happened in Kosovo?? Committing crimes and never apologizing (now by the democratic government), in my opinion, means upholding to those policies exercised by the previous regime.
“Laying the blame for what occurred in Bosnia on the shoulders of one man, even a cynical opportunist like Milosevic, is patently absurd. By encouraging the arming of Bosnian Serb militants and providing them with logistical support he should certainly be brought to justice but other factors, including the inaction of Europe and an absurd UN arms embargo that only penalised the mostly Muslim government of the fledgling state, thus allowing the heavily armed Croats and Serbs to move ahead with their ethnic cleansing, were also factors. It should also be mentioned that both Milosevic and Tudjman seemed to have the enthusiastic support of most of their countrymen.
When faced with real opposition Milosevic has always folded, as he did in October of 2000 when he was finally driven from power after yet another poorly orchestrated electoral fraud. One of the most horrible things that Serbians faced in the wake of his retreat was how little he had been opposed in Serbia over the years.6 In 1996 large numbers of protesters took to the streets to protest an earlier foray into electoral fraud, this time in non-presidential elections, and he was forced into a compromise, turning over, among others, the position of Mayor of Belgrade to the Opposition. Many members of the “United Opposition” who turned against him after the country was bombed by Nato and economic sanctions left the country in a shambles, were some of his most important allies on the Right and their rhetoric was even more extreme than his own.7
The ineptness of Milosevic’s handling of the Kosovo situation in the late 1990’s showed that he was anything but the “mad genius” he was portrayed as in the West. It was in many ways the lack of will shown by Europe and the United States during the Bosnia crisis that allowed this man of rather average intelligence to manipulate the peace process. When faced with daily bombings and dwindling popularity over Kosovo, Milosevic once again tried to wrap himself in the role of peace-maker but this time not even the once credulous Clinton Administration was buying it.
The tragedies that followed in Milosevic’s wake are not his sole responsibility. The simple truth is that Slobodan Milosevic probably never committed a murder with his own hands: there were plenty of people around who were willing to do his killing for him. Let’s hope that his successors honor all the victims of his Presidency and not just those who share their national identity or there will be more Bosnias, more crises and more hatred in the very heart of Europe in the years to come.”
1 Simic Charles. “Anatomy of a Murderer.” New York Review of Books. January 20th, 2000.
2 Op. Cit. Simic, Charles.
3 Sullivan, Stacy. “Milosevic’s Willing Executioners.” The New Republic. May 10th, 1999
4 1)Op. Cit. Simic, Charles; 2)Cable News Network. CNN Newsmaker Profiles: Slobodan Milosevic.” CNN.com, 1998.
5 Richard Kaplan. “Europe’s Third World.” The Atlantic Monthly. July, 1989.
6 Op. Cit. Sullivan, Stacy.
7 Laura Rozen. “Milosevic’s Fizzling Opposition.” Salon.com. June 3rd, 2000.

Only when the SRS says something like this is it meaningful.

Again, Biden's propaganda campaign visit is a waste of U.S. taxpayer money (if they have any left after the finacial havoc) and an insult to every Serb everywhere in the world...

"No country of the former communist bloc has become an EU member before it joined NATO, he noted."

It's not true cause GDR , Poland and Chekhoslovakia did not have such preconditions. Besides when necessary they make any exclusions they need from any rule they have.

I do not understand why there is any discussion of Serbia in NATO. Russia will never allow it and I do not think that NATO nations have a trust level to actually let Serbia in.

it´s quite intersting, ...most of the writers here seem to believe that NATO will exist forever...

kids,... they merely survived the fall of the iron curtain by creating the legend of "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide" in southern Serbia, in order to show some muscle, and to present some more or less believable justification for their own existence.

let´s not be naive, NATO has no promising future. actually it´s a US-american foreign-policy-instrument, with virtually no legitimacy.

our dear albanian friends are over-emphasizing NATO´s importance for obvious reasons, that´s quite understandable, given that they have nothing else to cling to.

but, the emerging new powers of the future will teach them otherwise.

last but not least, it is called NORTH ATLANTIC treaty organisation...

what have they lost in SOUTH EASTERN europe, not to mention Afghanistan...???

:)


good luck with NATO, my dear albanian friends... you will need it.

Peter. Albania has a bright future and has a beautiful coast with a ritch land. It is sad that we are where we are but we are not as bad as you think or want to make it. It is a fact that Poland besides Romania and Bulgaria that just joined is the poorest country in European Union even after reciving a substantial amount of money from eu. Polaks are consider second class citizens in majority of European Union, likewise as Albanias. Dont preach to the priest please.

No Olf, U.S. needs Serbia on her side more. The Americans need a strong regional player with stability to help them consolidate there conquests and vassals.

The main purpose of Biden's visit is to "TWIST" the mind of Tadic so that Serbia should finally give up kosovo. as they said kosovo is a done deal...Serbian people should carefully watch your president

Biden should not be welcome and send him back to washington

Ireland, became member of EU without being a member of NATO!

PZ wrote:

# 26: “Biden is so arrogant that he can make such derogatory statements about the whole race of people and without apologizing is still made welcome.”

I agree to some extant! In no regime the whole “race” (proper saying: nation) can be responsible for the regime’s deeds.

PZ, I meant race not nation because Serbs live outside Serbia as well. He smeared the whole race.

You talk of apologies to Albanians. What about apologies to the Serbs from Albanians? Are you implying that only Serbs committed crimes and only Serbs need to apologize to the world?

How about everyone apologize to everyone and we'll leave it at that. I agree, crimes were committed by the Serbs and those Serbs are now arrested and tried, but, crimes were also committed by the Albanians and those Albanians are rewarded with high positions in Pristina now.

No Peggy, in now way I imply that all crimes were committed by Serbs, and I understand that some Albanians have done some bad and terrible things and I really hope justice will reach them sooner or latter.
What I in a way wanted to say in regards to your comment on Biden, is that he only made those statements after Serb regime was continuously committing those crimes. And now it is really irrelevant, to my understanding, for him to apologize for having said something that truly happened. Instead, it would have been much “healthier” for the whole region if those who truly committed crimes come out and publicly apologize, and in this case not to the world, but to the victims and their families.