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Tuesday, 12.05.2009.

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New Macedonian president sworn in

Gjorgje Ivanov has been sworn in as Macedonia’s new president in Skopje today, calling for good neighborly relations and further EU integration.

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Boban

pre 14 godina

Geni, your right History is not black and white.

500 years of Ottoman slavery, this is why we have feelings of hate against Albanians Turks and Islam. Trying to take Kosovo from Christian Serbs it not helping mend the relationship."If you do not want to see truth you will never understand history. "

"Every country in the Balkans had their pro-Nazi and pro-Commie camps"

Not real Serbs. I know many that stood strong.

"communist regime that followed and persisted for 50 years"

Albanians loved Communism, Your were allowed to live and work in Serbia (Yugoslavia)you were laborers for the Tito regime, because living standards in Albania were very poor, but they forgot to tell you to leave.

Geni

pre 14 godina

Dan,
You might have been drunk when you sent that comment.
If Albania was on the Nazi side during the II World War, then what do you have to say about the communist regime that followed and persisted for 50 years. My grandfather, who was from Himara area managed to escape twice from concentration camps in Italy.
Every country in the Balkans had their pro-Nazi and pro-Commie camps.
If you do not want to see truth you will never understand history.
History is not black and white.

kukuth

pre 14 godina

"Please, stop talking about how it's your land, because all that's happening in the world is that you are trying to take all of Western Macedonia, part of southern montenegro, and since you have a one million population in northern greece as of the present, trying to take that too."


During WW2 Albania fought the Greeks, the Italians, and the Nazis. When one enemy left, we moved on to fight the next. Anybody who dared to come inside our borders. Why you say? Because the terms "Albaniaism" and "besa" unite us. The first means that there's nothing above the Albanian nation, and the second means to have respect, extreme loyalty, to be humble, and brave.

That's why, as you've heard before I'm sure, no Jews were ever taken by Nazis while they were in Albania. Albanian fathers sacrificed their own sons to the Nazis in order to keep quiet and protect the Jews. And that's why dozens of Albanian families have been honoured with the term "Rightous Among Nations" by Israel's Holocaust Museum.

But of course, you choose to ignore all of this. It's quite alright. I'll be here every single day to remind you of it. So in conclusion, nice try, but you fail.

Dan

pre 14 godina

wow, it is so funny reading comments about South Albania. The truth is, Albania was on Nazi side during ww2, am I not right? The reason for being next to Hitler? Simple. Hitler was to give Albania Kosovo and part of Northern Greece as compensation for attacking Greece in ww2. Please, stop talking about how it's your land, because all that's happening in the world is that you are trying to take all of Western Macedonia, part of southern montenegro, and since you have a one million population in northern greece as of the present, trying to take that too.

maliq

pre 14 godina

"You must have the wrong information. Kosovo is still a Serbian province. Please check 1244. Thought I just let you know!"



Thanks for letting me know. However, I believe my copy of 1244 is in the trash, and has been for years. It's irrelevant to the situation in the ground.

Geni

pre 14 godina

Pyrros,
Albania as a country did not invade Greece for Chameria (Thesprotia) and never killed any Greek national for being Greek.
Moreover, Albania did not participate in the wars of ex-Yugoslavia to protect its own nationals. I think they kept it pretty cool.
Third, Wow considering Croatia, Bosnia, and Albania as small nations and leaving aside Serbia and Greece. You just proved my point. Religion blinds people.

Pyrros

pre 14 godina

Geni,
The problem is not religion but the high expectations of small nations (Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians) that think that thet deserve something more than they have.

The results are known to everybody.

r10

pre 14 godina

@ Speaking the Truth
It is obvious that you don’t know the truth or simply denying it.
Now let me enlighten you little bit about the Epirus issue. What you need to do is to go back and read more books, and when you find the word Chameria stop there. Here is the link to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria since you prefer it

Geni

pre 14 godina

I think Northern Epirus is already free Pyrros. And who is the founder of the so-called Freedom of Northern Epirus Movement? An Orthodox priest.
Sometimes I think that people live in different worlds. Some believe that religion, science, and truth are one and the same. On the contrary, I believe without shaking religion out of our lives we will not have any peace in the Balkans.

Geni

pre 14 godina

@ Speaking the Truth
Before speaking the truth you are supposed to know the truth.
Either you have to live in South Albania or at least to have read some sources with an academic background, in order to give some opinion to the matter. The information in Wikipedia can be very far from the truth sometimes.

maliq

pre 14 godina

"It's intresting to read Albanian comments when something doesn't go their way."



What could possibly not go our way after we got independence?

Should we put our heads under the pillow because Kosovo's president was not invited (even though he said he was busy with other things)? Of course not. All that matters is that we thank Macedonia for recognizing Kosovo's independence :)

Speaking the truth

pre 14 godina

King Kent

"Only a few villages". I wouldn't call a substantial ethnic Greek population in south Albania "only a few villages".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus_(region)

Besides it once belonged to Greece. Just like you Albanians claim to be of some fictitious illirian descent and thereby claim the right to Kosovo why shouldn't the Greeks be able to declare independens in South Albania? I hope you realize how hypocritical you guys are.

Aleks

pre 14 godina

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)

Albanians in Macedonia don't need to make any trouble. In 30-40 years they will be the majority and slavic macedonians the minority. It's only a matter of time. That's why Macedonians should never ignore the Albanian element. Further more, Albanians are their best allies against Greece and any other country that denies them the right to their own statehood.

Without internal unity with albanians Macedonia has no future. Every sane mind understands that.

Funny your comment about the south Albania with Greek majority. I am from that area. I am an albanian orthodox, and I am considered greek by the greek government. My 70 years old uncle gets a $400 pension a month from Greece just because he is an orthodox, even though he speaks no greek. But if he is greek, I should be the Queen of England.

King Gent

pre 14 godina

"There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians"

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)

Dude there are only a few villages in south Albania which are of greek ethnicity.
They don't make the majority, to be fair they don't even make 10% of all the south. Albanians in FYROM make 30-40% and they have a saying on everything.
Do you think they care about the name dispute with Greece?

EA

pre 14 godina

"A number of Macedonian Albanian parties announced a boycott of the inauguration because of the failure to invite Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu to the ceremony."

I do not think it was a clever move from Macedonian President not to invite Kosova's President Sejdiu.

Slavo Macedonians like it or do not like have to live with Albanians if they want Macedonia to egsist as a country. The time has gone when the Albanians were belittled.

Maks

pre 14 godina

If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)
My friend “who speak the truth”, just for your information, in south of Albania, greek population make nowhere majority except few villages in Dropulli, Gjirokastra, few in Livadhja, Saranda. It is like Serbs in few villages in Gjilan to ask for independence. Regarding RS, they never had a border before the war to separate with Bosnia so it is closed case like Albanians in Macedonia although for them exist ethnic Albania border which includes Shkup (Skopje) but this is very hard to follow anymore. So there is no choice for Macedonian-Albanian and Western Bulgarians (aka Macedonian) to coo-live in FYROM peacefully.

Speaking the truth

pre 14 godina

"There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians"

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.

hmmmm

pre 14 godina

those Albanian parties in Macedonia are more important for the new Macedonian president that Tadic, Mesic and bamir topi ALLTOGETHER.

Ivanov will have to realise (WILL HAVE TO) that Macedonia is a country of both Slavs and Albanians.

Albanians in Macedonia have signed the peace deal and are sticking to it. Ivanov and Co better start doing it too. There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians (Macedonian citizens), and Ivanov better start behaving accordingly.

The time when the Albanians were simply ignored has gone, FOREVER.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Actually I heard that the Kosovo president got an invitation by Mr Tadic and Medvedev but due to a private meeting with his best buddie Obama at his ranch in Chicago he had to cancel that trip to Moscow. Also I heard that the entire world is planing a full scale military intervention on Serbia because of its refusal to recognize Kosovo.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

A number of Macedonian Albanian parties have announced a boycott of the inauguration because of the failure to invite Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu to the ceremony.

These Albanians from Macedonia are wrong, cause President Sejdiu did receive an official invitation last Friday at noon. Read the official text of invitation published in Koha Ditore today. But, President sejdiu due to bussy schedule he will be unable to attend. He will be in Macedonia on May 20-21 next week, on official business.

hmmmm

pre 14 godina

those Albanian parties in Macedonia are more important for the new Macedonian president that Tadic, Mesic and bamir topi ALLTOGETHER.

Ivanov will have to realise (WILL HAVE TO) that Macedonia is a country of both Slavs and Albanians.

Albanians in Macedonia have signed the peace deal and are sticking to it. Ivanov and Co better start doing it too. There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians (Macedonian citizens), and Ivanov better start behaving accordingly.

The time when the Albanians were simply ignored has gone, FOREVER.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Actually I heard that the Kosovo president got an invitation by Mr Tadic and Medvedev but due to a private meeting with his best buddie Obama at his ranch in Chicago he had to cancel that trip to Moscow. Also I heard that the entire world is planing a full scale military intervention on Serbia because of its refusal to recognize Kosovo.

Aleks

pre 14 godina

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)

Albanians in Macedonia don't need to make any trouble. In 30-40 years they will be the majority and slavic macedonians the minority. It's only a matter of time. That's why Macedonians should never ignore the Albanian element. Further more, Albanians are their best allies against Greece and any other country that denies them the right to their own statehood.

Without internal unity with albanians Macedonia has no future. Every sane mind understands that.

Funny your comment about the south Albania with Greek majority. I am from that area. I am an albanian orthodox, and I am considered greek by the greek government. My 70 years old uncle gets a $400 pension a month from Greece just because he is an orthodox, even though he speaks no greek. But if he is greek, I should be the Queen of England.

Speaking the truth

pre 14 godina

"There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians"

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

A number of Macedonian Albanian parties have announced a boycott of the inauguration because of the failure to invite Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu to the ceremony.

These Albanians from Macedonia are wrong, cause President Sejdiu did receive an official invitation last Friday at noon. Read the official text of invitation published in Koha Ditore today. But, President sejdiu due to bussy schedule he will be unable to attend. He will be in Macedonia on May 20-21 next week, on official business.

King Gent

pre 14 godina

"There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians"

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)

Dude there are only a few villages in south Albania which are of greek ethnicity.
They don't make the majority, to be fair they don't even make 10% of all the south. Albanians in FYROM make 30-40% and they have a saying on everything.
Do you think they care about the name dispute with Greece?

EA

pre 14 godina

"A number of Macedonian Albanian parties announced a boycott of the inauguration because of the failure to invite Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu to the ceremony."

I do not think it was a clever move from Macedonian President not to invite Kosova's President Sejdiu.

Slavo Macedonians like it or do not like have to live with Albanians if they want Macedonia to egsist as a country. The time has gone when the Albanians were belittled.

Speaking the truth

pre 14 godina

King Kent

"Only a few villages". I wouldn't call a substantial ethnic Greek population in south Albania "only a few villages".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus_(region)

Besides it once belonged to Greece. Just like you Albanians claim to be of some fictitious illirian descent and thereby claim the right to Kosovo why shouldn't the Greeks be able to declare independens in South Albania? I hope you realize how hypocritical you guys are.

Maks

pre 14 godina

If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)
My friend “who speak the truth”, just for your information, in south of Albania, greek population make nowhere majority except few villages in Dropulli, Gjirokastra, few in Livadhja, Saranda. It is like Serbs in few villages in Gjilan to ask for independence. Regarding RS, they never had a border before the war to separate with Bosnia so it is closed case like Albanians in Macedonia although for them exist ethnic Albania border which includes Shkup (Skopje) but this is very hard to follow anymore. So there is no choice for Macedonian-Albanian and Western Bulgarians (aka Macedonian) to coo-live in FYROM peacefully.

Pyrros

pre 14 godina

Geni,
The problem is not religion but the high expectations of small nations (Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians) that think that thet deserve something more than they have.

The results are known to everybody.

Dan

pre 14 godina

wow, it is so funny reading comments about South Albania. The truth is, Albania was on Nazi side during ww2, am I not right? The reason for being next to Hitler? Simple. Hitler was to give Albania Kosovo and part of Northern Greece as compensation for attacking Greece in ww2. Please, stop talking about how it's your land, because all that's happening in the world is that you are trying to take all of Western Macedonia, part of southern montenegro, and since you have a one million population in northern greece as of the present, trying to take that too.

maliq

pre 14 godina

"It's intresting to read Albanian comments when something doesn't go their way."



What could possibly not go our way after we got independence?

Should we put our heads under the pillow because Kosovo's president was not invited (even though he said he was busy with other things)? Of course not. All that matters is that we thank Macedonia for recognizing Kosovo's independence :)

Geni

pre 14 godina

I think Northern Epirus is already free Pyrros. And who is the founder of the so-called Freedom of Northern Epirus Movement? An Orthodox priest.
Sometimes I think that people live in different worlds. Some believe that religion, science, and truth are one and the same. On the contrary, I believe without shaking religion out of our lives we will not have any peace in the Balkans.

Geni

pre 14 godina

@ Speaking the Truth
Before speaking the truth you are supposed to know the truth.
Either you have to live in South Albania or at least to have read some sources with an academic background, in order to give some opinion to the matter. The information in Wikipedia can be very far from the truth sometimes.

r10

pre 14 godina

@ Speaking the Truth
It is obvious that you don’t know the truth or simply denying it.
Now let me enlighten you little bit about the Epirus issue. What you need to do is to go back and read more books, and when you find the word Chameria stop there. Here is the link to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria since you prefer it

Boban

pre 14 godina

Geni, your right History is not black and white.

500 years of Ottoman slavery, this is why we have feelings of hate against Albanians Turks and Islam. Trying to take Kosovo from Christian Serbs it not helping mend the relationship."If you do not want to see truth you will never understand history. "

"Every country in the Balkans had their pro-Nazi and pro-Commie camps"

Not real Serbs. I know many that stood strong.

"communist regime that followed and persisted for 50 years"

Albanians loved Communism, Your were allowed to live and work in Serbia (Yugoslavia)you were laborers for the Tito regime, because living standards in Albania were very poor, but they forgot to tell you to leave.

Geni

pre 14 godina

Pyrros,
Albania as a country did not invade Greece for Chameria (Thesprotia) and never killed any Greek national for being Greek.
Moreover, Albania did not participate in the wars of ex-Yugoslavia to protect its own nationals. I think they kept it pretty cool.
Third, Wow considering Croatia, Bosnia, and Albania as small nations and leaving aside Serbia and Greece. You just proved my point. Religion blinds people.

maliq

pre 14 godina

"You must have the wrong information. Kosovo is still a Serbian province. Please check 1244. Thought I just let you know!"



Thanks for letting me know. However, I believe my copy of 1244 is in the trash, and has been for years. It's irrelevant to the situation in the ground.

kukuth

pre 14 godina

"Please, stop talking about how it's your land, because all that's happening in the world is that you are trying to take all of Western Macedonia, part of southern montenegro, and since you have a one million population in northern greece as of the present, trying to take that too."


During WW2 Albania fought the Greeks, the Italians, and the Nazis. When one enemy left, we moved on to fight the next. Anybody who dared to come inside our borders. Why you say? Because the terms "Albaniaism" and "besa" unite us. The first means that there's nothing above the Albanian nation, and the second means to have respect, extreme loyalty, to be humble, and brave.

That's why, as you've heard before I'm sure, no Jews were ever taken by Nazis while they were in Albania. Albanian fathers sacrificed their own sons to the Nazis in order to keep quiet and protect the Jews. And that's why dozens of Albanian families have been honoured with the term "Rightous Among Nations" by Israel's Holocaust Museum.

But of course, you choose to ignore all of this. It's quite alright. I'll be here every single day to remind you of it. So in conclusion, nice try, but you fail.

Geni

pre 14 godina

Dan,
You might have been drunk when you sent that comment.
If Albania was on the Nazi side during the II World War, then what do you have to say about the communist regime that followed and persisted for 50 years. My grandfather, who was from Himara area managed to escape twice from concentration camps in Italy.
Every country in the Balkans had their pro-Nazi and pro-Commie camps.
If you do not want to see truth you will never understand history.
History is not black and white.

Speaking the truth

pre 14 godina

"There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians"

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.

MikeC

pre 14 godina

Actually I heard that the Kosovo president got an invitation by Mr Tadic and Medvedev but due to a private meeting with his best buddie Obama at his ranch in Chicago he had to cancel that trip to Moscow. Also I heard that the entire world is planing a full scale military intervention on Serbia because of its refusal to recognize Kosovo.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

A number of Macedonian Albanian parties have announced a boycott of the inauguration because of the failure to invite Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu to the ceremony.

These Albanians from Macedonia are wrong, cause President Sejdiu did receive an official invitation last Friday at noon. Read the official text of invitation published in Koha Ditore today. But, President sejdiu due to bussy schedule he will be unable to attend. He will be in Macedonia on May 20-21 next week, on official business.

hmmmm

pre 14 godina

those Albanian parties in Macedonia are more important for the new Macedonian president that Tadic, Mesic and bamir topi ALLTOGETHER.

Ivanov will have to realise (WILL HAVE TO) that Macedonia is a country of both Slavs and Albanians.

Albanians in Macedonia have signed the peace deal and are sticking to it. Ivanov and Co better start doing it too. There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians (Macedonian citizens), and Ivanov better start behaving accordingly.

The time when the Albanians were simply ignored has gone, FOREVER.

EA

pre 14 godina

"A number of Macedonian Albanian parties announced a boycott of the inauguration because of the failure to invite Kosovo President Fatmir Sejdiu to the ceremony."

I do not think it was a clever move from Macedonian President not to invite Kosova's President Sejdiu.

Slavo Macedonians like it or do not like have to live with Albanians if they want Macedonia to egsist as a country. The time has gone when the Albanians were belittled.

King Gent

pre 14 godina

"There will be no Macedonia without the will of Albanians"

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)

Dude there are only a few villages in south Albania which are of greek ethnicity.
They don't make the majority, to be fair they don't even make 10% of all the south. Albanians in FYROM make 30-40% and they have a saying on everything.
Do you think they care about the name dispute with Greece?

Aleks

pre 14 godina

The albanians in macedonia can't do anything. They will always belong to macedonia because of the deal they struck with the US. "You get Kosovo if you don't cause problems in Macedonia".
Being part of a slavic nation is not what albanians want so sooner rather than later albanians will cause new problems in macedonia. If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)

Albanians in Macedonia don't need to make any trouble. In 30-40 years they will be the majority and slavic macedonians the minority. It's only a matter of time. That's why Macedonians should never ignore the Albanian element. Further more, Albanians are their best allies against Greece and any other country that denies them the right to their own statehood.

Without internal unity with albanians Macedonia has no future. Every sane mind understands that.

Funny your comment about the south Albania with Greek majority. I am from that area. I am an albanian orthodox, and I am considered greek by the greek government. My 70 years old uncle gets a $400 pension a month from Greece just because he is an orthodox, even though he speaks no greek. But if he is greek, I should be the Queen of England.

Speaking the truth

pre 14 godina

King Kent

"Only a few villages". I wouldn't call a substantial ethnic Greek population in south Albania "only a few villages".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epirus_(region)

Besides it once belonged to Greece. Just like you Albanians claim to be of some fictitious illirian descent and thereby claim the right to Kosovo why shouldn't the Greeks be able to declare independens in South Albania? I hope you realize how hypocritical you guys are.

Maks

pre 14 godina

If they want independence then give independence to RS, North Kosovo and South Albanian with a majority greek population. After all, it only fair. You can't only take and not give anything in return.
(Speaking the truth, 12 May 2009 18:41)
My friend “who speak the truth”, just for your information, in south of Albania, greek population make nowhere majority except few villages in Dropulli, Gjirokastra, few in Livadhja, Saranda. It is like Serbs in few villages in Gjilan to ask for independence. Regarding RS, they never had a border before the war to separate with Bosnia so it is closed case like Albanians in Macedonia although for them exist ethnic Albania border which includes Shkup (Skopje) but this is very hard to follow anymore. So there is no choice for Macedonian-Albanian and Western Bulgarians (aka Macedonian) to coo-live in FYROM peacefully.

Geni

pre 14 godina

I think Northern Epirus is already free Pyrros. And who is the founder of the so-called Freedom of Northern Epirus Movement? An Orthodox priest.
Sometimes I think that people live in different worlds. Some believe that religion, science, and truth are one and the same. On the contrary, I believe without shaking religion out of our lives we will not have any peace in the Balkans.

Geni

pre 14 godina

@ Speaking the Truth
Before speaking the truth you are supposed to know the truth.
Either you have to live in South Albania or at least to have read some sources with an academic background, in order to give some opinion to the matter. The information in Wikipedia can be very far from the truth sometimes.

maliq

pre 14 godina

"It's intresting to read Albanian comments when something doesn't go their way."



What could possibly not go our way after we got independence?

Should we put our heads under the pillow because Kosovo's president was not invited (even though he said he was busy with other things)? Of course not. All that matters is that we thank Macedonia for recognizing Kosovo's independence :)

Geni

pre 14 godina

Pyrros,
Albania as a country did not invade Greece for Chameria (Thesprotia) and never killed any Greek national for being Greek.
Moreover, Albania did not participate in the wars of ex-Yugoslavia to protect its own nationals. I think they kept it pretty cool.
Third, Wow considering Croatia, Bosnia, and Albania as small nations and leaving aside Serbia and Greece. You just proved my point. Religion blinds people.

kukuth

pre 14 godina

"Please, stop talking about how it's your land, because all that's happening in the world is that you are trying to take all of Western Macedonia, part of southern montenegro, and since you have a one million population in northern greece as of the present, trying to take that too."


During WW2 Albania fought the Greeks, the Italians, and the Nazis. When one enemy left, we moved on to fight the next. Anybody who dared to come inside our borders. Why you say? Because the terms "Albaniaism" and "besa" unite us. The first means that there's nothing above the Albanian nation, and the second means to have respect, extreme loyalty, to be humble, and brave.

That's why, as you've heard before I'm sure, no Jews were ever taken by Nazis while they were in Albania. Albanian fathers sacrificed their own sons to the Nazis in order to keep quiet and protect the Jews. And that's why dozens of Albanian families have been honoured with the term "Rightous Among Nations" by Israel's Holocaust Museum.

But of course, you choose to ignore all of this. It's quite alright. I'll be here every single day to remind you of it. So in conclusion, nice try, but you fail.

r10

pre 14 godina

@ Speaking the Truth
It is obvious that you don’t know the truth or simply denying it.
Now let me enlighten you little bit about the Epirus issue. What you need to do is to go back and read more books, and when you find the word Chameria stop there. Here is the link to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria since you prefer it

maliq

pre 14 godina

"You must have the wrong information. Kosovo is still a Serbian province. Please check 1244. Thought I just let you know!"



Thanks for letting me know. However, I believe my copy of 1244 is in the trash, and has been for years. It's irrelevant to the situation in the ground.

Pyrros

pre 14 godina

Geni,
The problem is not religion but the high expectations of small nations (Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians) that think that thet deserve something more than they have.

The results are known to everybody.

Geni

pre 14 godina

Dan,
You might have been drunk when you sent that comment.
If Albania was on the Nazi side during the II World War, then what do you have to say about the communist regime that followed and persisted for 50 years. My grandfather, who was from Himara area managed to escape twice from concentration camps in Italy.
Every country in the Balkans had their pro-Nazi and pro-Commie camps.
If you do not want to see truth you will never understand history.
History is not black and white.

Dan

pre 14 godina

wow, it is so funny reading comments about South Albania. The truth is, Albania was on Nazi side during ww2, am I not right? The reason for being next to Hitler? Simple. Hitler was to give Albania Kosovo and part of Northern Greece as compensation for attacking Greece in ww2. Please, stop talking about how it's your land, because all that's happening in the world is that you are trying to take all of Western Macedonia, part of southern montenegro, and since you have a one million population in northern greece as of the present, trying to take that too.

Boban

pre 14 godina

Geni, your right History is not black and white.

500 years of Ottoman slavery, this is why we have feelings of hate against Albanians Turks and Islam. Trying to take Kosovo from Christian Serbs it not helping mend the relationship."If you do not want to see truth you will never understand history. "

"Every country in the Balkans had their pro-Nazi and pro-Commie camps"

Not real Serbs. I know many that stood strong.

"communist regime that followed and persisted for 50 years"

Albanians loved Communism, Your were allowed to live and work in Serbia (Yugoslavia)you were laborers for the Tito regime, because living standards in Albania were very poor, but they forgot to tell you to leave.