@Jasmin
MB Ireland was talking about german politics in balkans, and he is 100% right.
You are talking about german people.
Two different things, I think.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
D. Popovic
@ Micheal Breathnach
Though I fully agree with your last sentence, I think that your views of Germans and their relationship to Serbia or the Serbs in general are sort of one-sided!
It is true that there was a lot of anti-serb propaganda in the German conservative newspapers and on tv (in the 1990s) which is why many elders have a rather negative opinion of Serbia without actually knowing anything about it`s people or the country since they only heard of Milosevic, Mladic etc. But it seems to me that you consider every German a latent nazi and the whole German society a Serb-hating fascist mob still celebrating Kaiser Wilhelm and Adolf Hitler!
You have it all wrong. Albanians wanted the radicals to win. That way Serbia would isolate itself much quicker.
(johny, 10 May 2009 19:54)
i actually read once that albanians in the 1990's boycotted serbian elections because they wanted milosevic to win which would keep serbia more isolated. interesting to see that there could be some truth in that.
however serbia is not going to get isolated since present serbian government is pro-western and it is indeed strange that some countries do not support this government more. there is little doubt that they do co-operate with the hague tribunal, but then again the dutch are "victims" of their own propaganda. but other than that serbia is wanted in the eu. given its position serbia is bound to be the leader of the region. the only question (and the reason for its previous isolation) was under whose supervision.
Double standards, sorry Serbia... bigger war criminals are from other countries. Pointing finger to USA and Israel specially. But nothing much is being done in that front.
Tadic and his goverment need to rethink about his foreign policy's and without any excuses arrest and deliver Mladic and company ASAP. Then the EU can start about discussing the future of Serbia. Thats not hard to comprehend now is it .
"We in the EU want no more charity cases in the club."
As soon as other net takers pay back what they got from Germany, France, Italy etc, we'll agree on. Anyway, the "net givers" support Albania, especially since Albania has troops in Chad, Afghanistan and before in Iraq. Serbia is sucking up to the Russians, Chinese, Iranians...
I think AgimY was referring to NATO ... which Albania pretty much is a member.
I agree with you on your other point - Albania has a LONG way to go before it has all the prerequisites to join the EU club. Even though their progress has been slow, it nevertheless shows potential, so I wouldn't call them a completely hopeless case.
Now, Kosova/o and Bosnia on the other hand, that's where the real challenges are. Everything is being started from zero, with less than competent people at the steering wheel, and Serbian government hellbent on making Kosovars' life worse … In Bosnia, we have Serbs getting annoyed with having the central government strengthened so they can actually get work done. And let's not forget this forced marriage of RS with the rest of Bosnia; it's all too ugly.
And, you have the “good” guy Serbia being less than pro-bono with their war criminals that are virtually floating around the country freely – doesn't quite strike a note of sincerity in my book (and that's why those “some” EU countries aren't quite the idiots some of us like to portray them as).
For what it's worth, I want this mess to be resolved yesterday, build a bridge, and move on already.
The EU was created after the WWII with one aim only. To reconsile and unify the continent then facing a Soviet threat! The main mistake made after WWI was understood and corrected. Despite of the horrible loses of lives and destruction of property the nations were not to be divided on winners and losers! The borders fair or unfair were not to be challenged but overcome by peaceful measures. The same principles were applied in the East after 1989. Germany had to recognize the Oder-Nisa line etc.
Yugoslavia was a special case. It collapsed under its own weight and the "subjects of the Federation" were given the right of selfdetermination. All but Vojvodina chosed independence. Nobody sais that the "administrative borders" between them were fair, but few borders in Europe are! Kosovo was in a very formal way part of Serbia although it had all other trappings of a Yugoslavian republic. Most EU countries have extended their fondation principle to Kosovo as well. Ever since Serbia keeps making it clear that it does not consider the measures of overcomint the borders "European way" as an acceptable, how does Tadic expect Serbia to fit in the EU family?
Albanians why are you making fun of Tadic? before the elections you were all begging for Tadic to win because you thought he would give up Serbia's southern province of Kosovo in a matter of minutes. why the change of heart?
(hmm, 10 May 2009 16:06)
You have it all wrong. Albanians wanted the radicals to win. That way Serbia would isolate itself much quicker.
So I am getting from the comments and article that Serbia wants and needs to join the European Union. But inorder to do so Serbia needs to make changes to fit in with the 27 other countries.
However, the better option is for the 27 other countries to change to accomodate Serbia.
Is there a true difference in Serbian from 1995 and 2009?
Albania has a LONG way to enter the EU. It is far too poor and far too corrupt. If countries like Croatia, who are FAR richer than Albania are not in the EU, why should Albania join? It would be a net taker and absolutely not a giver. We in the EU want no more charity cases in the club.
"I do not understand this kind of approach. We are suffering on the road to Euro-integrations for this reason."
You are suffering because of your pigheaded policies. See the anniversary of NATO bombing: Not a mention of what was going on in Kosova. Who is in NATO? Almost all of EU, yet you call them criminals in one hand and beg for favors in the other.
--" We have signed the [Stabilization and] Association Agreement with the Union, but it has been frozen because Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić have not been extradited. But this is not the position of the entire European Union, only of some countries,"
If UK, France and Germany want you are in. Do the math. Meeting Estonia and Bulgaria does nothing for you. Align with Russia even more and than wonder why.
Serbia will NEVER get in EU without recognizing Kosova and without publicly and honestly admitting their role in 1990's. If you delay, Albania gets in first NATO member, (no problems with neighbors, borders or with any state and has Italy's, Greece's, France's and Germany's support)
I think MB's comment pretty much nails it.
There are those in the EU who are Serb haters because Serbia screwed up their plans in WWI and WWII. These grudges are still there, and though these people are now wearing sheep's clothing, they are still wolves. A leopard never changes its spots.
Instead of being tough with these people, Tadic is doing the exact opposite by trying to be nice, which is really sickening to watch for anyone who is a true Serbian patriot. Somebody please tell Boris he does not need to be nice to people who raped his country, and are still trying to do so.
Albanians why are you making fun of Tadic? before the elections you were all begging for Tadic to win because you thought he would give up Serbia's southern province of Kosovo in a matter of minutes. why the change of heart?
it is a shame that our (Est) president Ilves and other stooges de jure have recognized fake Albanian mafia safe haven in the territory of Serbian province KiM. But there`s no wonder since he is an American born and still works for them. Serbs, do not give up. Follow the example of UCK, there are plenty of mountains and gorges to get away - this what NATO has been afraid of since they launched the illegal attack on Serbia.
ANd Albanians, seriously do not think that all people, living in Europe like you, actually not, and mostly because of your egoistic, clan-centered conduct, what is far of being tolerant.
But do not worry, all internationals in KiM behave if they were on your side as they are paid to play along with Europe`s leftist governments, who, in fact, are destroying our European civilization.
So Serbs, fight stealthy and decisively at least for the North and if necessary engage in KLA style resistance - they were the righteous ones, weren`t they Kosovo Albanians...
Don't worry Mr Tadic - just keep on the path. There are a number of bigoted euro-politicians who still want to punish Serbia - but they will be marginalised in time.
The EU is not for the benefit of a few euro-politicians; it is there for the benefit of all the people of Europe.
Many EU politicians need to be reminded that they are there to serve and not just to stand in the way of people who are going the right way and doing the right thing.
As for Mladic - if he was a hero for Serbia he would give himself up. There is no future in his line of politics.
Mr. Tadic I understand you why you can't understand some EU countries because we from Republic of Kosova don't understand some EU countries neither. For example Romania, Greec, Slovakia, Cipre and Spain. Scratch my back I'll scratch your's Mr. Tadic that how the world works these days, this is what you need to understand first.
There is nothing to not understand. Deliver Mladic et company, and Serbia will be on its way. It is that simple.
The problem: if he does that he will end up like Djindjic. Those that think Tadic's life is easy think again, the media is now going after him (since Kosovo joined IMF).
I think I understand why President Tadic 'doesn't understand' some EU countries.
I believe 'some EU countries' refers to what I term 'Greater Germany' i.e. Germany, Austria and other smaller countries containing elements which really never buried their WW2 demons.
I am always shocked to meet so many German speaking people who hold a distinct hatred towards Serbs.
In my research into this phenomeon I encounter WW1 slogans like 'wir muessen die Serben vernichten' and WW2 ones like 'die Serben muessen sterben'.
'Greater Germany' can't get 'Lebensraum' to the East or West anymore so it's moving South to the Adriatic with the support of its old cronies from WW2 i.e. the Hungarians, Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians.
The Serbs are the only stumbling block. (History repeating itself).
In Holland, the intransigence of the Dutch Government towards Serbian EU membership can be traced to pressure from 'Greater Germany' and false propaganda over the Srebrenica debacle.
Serbia should have been the first country in the Balkans to join the EU but with all the nonsense and childishness of the 'EU Elite', I feel we all really have to go back to the drawing board and create a new European Union based on fairness and true democratic principles and of course, respect for the sovereignty and integrity of all prospective member nations.
I think I understand why President Tadic 'doesn't understand' some EU countries.
I believe 'some EU countries' refers to what I term 'Greater Germany' i.e. Germany, Austria and other smaller countries containing elements which really never buried their WW2 demons.
I am always shocked to meet so many German speaking people who hold a distinct hatred towards Serbs.
In my research into this phenomeon I encounter WW1 slogans like 'wir muessen die Serben vernichten' and WW2 ones like 'die Serben muessen sterben'.
'Greater Germany' can't get 'Lebensraum' to the East or West anymore so it's moving South to the Adriatic with the support of its old cronies from WW2 i.e. the Hungarians, Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians.
The Serbs are the only stumbling block. (History repeating itself).
In Holland, the intransigence of the Dutch Government towards Serbian EU membership can be traced to pressure from 'Greater Germany' and false propaganda over the Srebrenica debacle.
Serbia should have been the first country in the Balkans to join the EU but with all the nonsense and childishness of the 'EU Elite', I feel we all really have to go back to the drawing board and create a new European Union based on fairness and true democratic principles and of course, respect for the sovereignty and integrity of all prospective member nations.
Don't worry Mr Tadic - just keep on the path. There are a number of bigoted euro-politicians who still want to punish Serbia - but they will be marginalised in time.
The EU is not for the benefit of a few euro-politicians; it is there for the benefit of all the people of Europe.
Many EU politicians need to be reminded that they are there to serve and not just to stand in the way of people who are going the right way and doing the right thing.
As for Mladic - if he was a hero for Serbia he would give himself up. There is no future in his line of politics.
Albanians why are you making fun of Tadic? before the elections you were all begging for Tadic to win because you thought he would give up Serbia's southern province of Kosovo in a matter of minutes. why the change of heart?
There is nothing to not understand. Deliver Mladic et company, and Serbia will be on its way. It is that simple.
The problem: if he does that he will end up like Djindjic. Those that think Tadic's life is easy think again, the media is now going after him (since Kosovo joined IMF).
Mr. Tadic I understand you why you can't understand some EU countries because we from Republic of Kosova don't understand some EU countries neither. For example Romania, Greec, Slovakia, Cipre and Spain. Scratch my back I'll scratch your's Mr. Tadic that how the world works these days, this is what you need to understand first.
"I do not understand this kind of approach. We are suffering on the road to Euro-integrations for this reason."
You are suffering because of your pigheaded policies. See the anniversary of NATO bombing: Not a mention of what was going on in Kosova. Who is in NATO? Almost all of EU, yet you call them criminals in one hand and beg for favors in the other.
--" We have signed the [Stabilization and] Association Agreement with the Union, but it has been frozen because Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić have not been extradited. But this is not the position of the entire European Union, only of some countries,"
If UK, France and Germany want you are in. Do the math. Meeting Estonia and Bulgaria does nothing for you. Align with Russia even more and than wonder why.
Serbia will NEVER get in EU without recognizing Kosova and without publicly and honestly admitting their role in 1990's. If you delay, Albania gets in first NATO member, (no problems with neighbors, borders or with any state and has Italy's, Greece's, France's and Germany's support)
I think MB's comment pretty much nails it.
There are those in the EU who are Serb haters because Serbia screwed up their plans in WWI and WWII. These grudges are still there, and though these people are now wearing sheep's clothing, they are still wolves. A leopard never changes its spots.
Instead of being tough with these people, Tadic is doing the exact opposite by trying to be nice, which is really sickening to watch for anyone who is a true Serbian patriot. Somebody please tell Boris he does not need to be nice to people who raped his country, and are still trying to do so.
Albania has a LONG way to enter the EU. It is far too poor and far too corrupt. If countries like Croatia, who are FAR richer than Albania are not in the EU, why should Albania join? It would be a net taker and absolutely not a giver. We in the EU want no more charity cases in the club.
it is a shame that our (Est) president Ilves and other stooges de jure have recognized fake Albanian mafia safe haven in the territory of Serbian province KiM. But there`s no wonder since he is an American born and still works for them. Serbs, do not give up. Follow the example of UCK, there are plenty of mountains and gorges to get away - this what NATO has been afraid of since they launched the illegal attack on Serbia.
ANd Albanians, seriously do not think that all people, living in Europe like you, actually not, and mostly because of your egoistic, clan-centered conduct, what is far of being tolerant.
But do not worry, all internationals in KiM behave if they were on your side as they are paid to play along with Europe`s leftist governments, who, in fact, are destroying our European civilization.
So Serbs, fight stealthy and decisively at least for the North and if necessary engage in KLA style resistance - they were the righteous ones, weren`t they Kosovo Albanians...
Albanians why are you making fun of Tadic? before the elections you were all begging for Tadic to win because you thought he would give up Serbia's southern province of Kosovo in a matter of minutes. why the change of heart?
(hmm, 10 May 2009 16:06)
You have it all wrong. Albanians wanted the radicals to win. That way Serbia would isolate itself much quicker.
I think AgimY was referring to NATO ... which Albania pretty much is a member.
I agree with you on your other point - Albania has a LONG way to go before it has all the prerequisites to join the EU club. Even though their progress has been slow, it nevertheless shows potential, so I wouldn't call them a completely hopeless case.
Now, Kosova/o and Bosnia on the other hand, that's where the real challenges are. Everything is being started from zero, with less than competent people at the steering wheel, and Serbian government hellbent on making Kosovars' life worse … In Bosnia, we have Serbs getting annoyed with having the central government strengthened so they can actually get work done. And let's not forget this forced marriage of RS with the rest of Bosnia; it's all too ugly.
And, you have the “good” guy Serbia being less than pro-bono with their war criminals that are virtually floating around the country freely – doesn't quite strike a note of sincerity in my book (and that's why those “some” EU countries aren't quite the idiots some of us like to portray them as).
For what it's worth, I want this mess to be resolved yesterday, build a bridge, and move on already.
"We in the EU want no more charity cases in the club."
As soon as other net takers pay back what they got from Germany, France, Italy etc, we'll agree on. Anyway, the "net givers" support Albania, especially since Albania has troops in Chad, Afghanistan and before in Iraq. Serbia is sucking up to the Russians, Chinese, Iranians...
So I am getting from the comments and article that Serbia wants and needs to join the European Union. But inorder to do so Serbia needs to make changes to fit in with the 27 other countries.
However, the better option is for the 27 other countries to change to accomodate Serbia.
Is there a true difference in Serbian from 1995 and 2009?
Tadic and his goverment need to rethink about his foreign policy's and without any excuses arrest and deliver Mladic and company ASAP. Then the EU can start about discussing the future of Serbia. Thats not hard to comprehend now is it .
The EU was created after the WWII with one aim only. To reconsile and unify the continent then facing a Soviet threat! The main mistake made after WWI was understood and corrected. Despite of the horrible loses of lives and destruction of property the nations were not to be divided on winners and losers! The borders fair or unfair were not to be challenged but overcome by peaceful measures. The same principles were applied in the East after 1989. Germany had to recognize the Oder-Nisa line etc.
Yugoslavia was a special case. It collapsed under its own weight and the "subjects of the Federation" were given the right of selfdetermination. All but Vojvodina chosed independence. Nobody sais that the "administrative borders" between them were fair, but few borders in Europe are! Kosovo was in a very formal way part of Serbia although it had all other trappings of a Yugoslavian republic. Most EU countries have extended their fondation principle to Kosovo as well. Ever since Serbia keeps making it clear that it does not consider the measures of overcomint the borders "European way" as an acceptable, how does Tadic expect Serbia to fit in the EU family?
@ Micheal Breathnach
Though I fully agree with your last sentence, I think that your views of Germans and their relationship to Serbia or the Serbs in general are sort of one-sided!
It is true that there was a lot of anti-serb propaganda in the German conservative newspapers and on tv (in the 1990s) which is why many elders have a rather negative opinion of Serbia without actually knowing anything about it`s people or the country since they only heard of Milosevic, Mladic etc. But it seems to me that you consider every German a latent nazi and the whole German society a Serb-hating fascist mob still celebrating Kaiser Wilhelm and Adolf Hitler!
Double standards, sorry Serbia... bigger war criminals are from other countries. Pointing finger to USA and Israel specially. But nothing much is being done in that front.
You have it all wrong. Albanians wanted the radicals to win. That way Serbia would isolate itself much quicker.
(johny, 10 May 2009 19:54)
i actually read once that albanians in the 1990's boycotted serbian elections because they wanted milosevic to win which would keep serbia more isolated. interesting to see that there could be some truth in that.
however serbia is not going to get isolated since present serbian government is pro-western and it is indeed strange that some countries do not support this government more. there is little doubt that they do co-operate with the hague tribunal, but then again the dutch are "victims" of their own propaganda. but other than that serbia is wanted in the eu. given its position serbia is bound to be the leader of the region. the only question (and the reason for its previous isolation) was under whose supervision.
@Jasmin
MB Ireland was talking about german politics in balkans, and he is 100% right.
You are talking about german people.
Two different things, I think.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
D. Popovic
I think I understand why President Tadic 'doesn't understand' some EU countries.
I believe 'some EU countries' refers to what I term 'Greater Germany' i.e. Germany, Austria and other smaller countries containing elements which really never buried their WW2 demons.
I am always shocked to meet so many German speaking people who hold a distinct hatred towards Serbs.
In my research into this phenomeon I encounter WW1 slogans like 'wir muessen die Serben vernichten' and WW2 ones like 'die Serben muessen sterben'.
'Greater Germany' can't get 'Lebensraum' to the East or West anymore so it's moving South to the Adriatic with the support of its old cronies from WW2 i.e. the Hungarians, Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians.
The Serbs are the only stumbling block. (History repeating itself).
In Holland, the intransigence of the Dutch Government towards Serbian EU membership can be traced to pressure from 'Greater Germany' and false propaganda over the Srebrenica debacle.
Serbia should have been the first country in the Balkans to join the EU but with all the nonsense and childishness of the 'EU Elite', I feel we all really have to go back to the drawing board and create a new European Union based on fairness and true democratic principles and of course, respect for the sovereignty and integrity of all prospective member nations.
I think MB's comment pretty much nails it.
There are those in the EU who are Serb haters because Serbia screwed up their plans in WWI and WWII. These grudges are still there, and though these people are now wearing sheep's clothing, they are still wolves. A leopard never changes its spots.
Instead of being tough with these people, Tadic is doing the exact opposite by trying to be nice, which is really sickening to watch for anyone who is a true Serbian patriot. Somebody please tell Boris he does not need to be nice to people who raped his country, and are still trying to do so.
it is a shame that our (Est) president Ilves and other stooges de jure have recognized fake Albanian mafia safe haven in the territory of Serbian province KiM. But there`s no wonder since he is an American born and still works for them. Serbs, do not give up. Follow the example of UCK, there are plenty of mountains and gorges to get away - this what NATO has been afraid of since they launched the illegal attack on Serbia.
ANd Albanians, seriously do not think that all people, living in Europe like you, actually not, and mostly because of your egoistic, clan-centered conduct, what is far of being tolerant.
But do not worry, all internationals in KiM behave if they were on your side as they are paid to play along with Europe`s leftist governments, who, in fact, are destroying our European civilization.
So Serbs, fight stealthy and decisively at least for the North and if necessary engage in KLA style resistance - they were the righteous ones, weren`t they Kosovo Albanians...
There is nothing to not understand. Deliver Mladic et company, and Serbia will be on its way. It is that simple.
The problem: if he does that he will end up like Djindjic. Those that think Tadic's life is easy think again, the media is now going after him (since Kosovo joined IMF).
"I do not understand this kind of approach. We are suffering on the road to Euro-integrations for this reason."
You are suffering because of your pigheaded policies. See the anniversary of NATO bombing: Not a mention of what was going on in Kosova. Who is in NATO? Almost all of EU, yet you call them criminals in one hand and beg for favors in the other.
--" We have signed the [Stabilization and] Association Agreement with the Union, but it has been frozen because Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić have not been extradited. But this is not the position of the entire European Union, only of some countries,"
If UK, France and Germany want you are in. Do the math. Meeting Estonia and Bulgaria does nothing for you. Align with Russia even more and than wonder why.
Serbia will NEVER get in EU without recognizing Kosova and without publicly and honestly admitting their role in 1990's. If you delay, Albania gets in first NATO member, (no problems with neighbors, borders or with any state and has Italy's, Greece's, France's and Germany's support)
Mr. Tadic I understand you why you can't understand some EU countries because we from Republic of Kosova don't understand some EU countries neither. For example Romania, Greec, Slovakia, Cipre and Spain. Scratch my back I'll scratch your's Mr. Tadic that how the world works these days, this is what you need to understand first.
Albanians why are you making fun of Tadic? before the elections you were all begging for Tadic to win because you thought he would give up Serbia's southern province of Kosovo in a matter of minutes. why the change of heart?
I think AgimY was referring to NATO ... which Albania pretty much is a member.
I agree with you on your other point - Albania has a LONG way to go before it has all the prerequisites to join the EU club. Even though their progress has been slow, it nevertheless shows potential, so I wouldn't call them a completely hopeless case.
Now, Kosova/o and Bosnia on the other hand, that's where the real challenges are. Everything is being started from zero, with less than competent people at the steering wheel, and Serbian government hellbent on making Kosovars' life worse … In Bosnia, we have Serbs getting annoyed with having the central government strengthened so they can actually get work done. And let's not forget this forced marriage of RS with the rest of Bosnia; it's all too ugly.
And, you have the “good” guy Serbia being less than pro-bono with their war criminals that are virtually floating around the country freely – doesn't quite strike a note of sincerity in my book (and that's why those “some” EU countries aren't quite the idiots some of us like to portray them as).
For what it's worth, I want this mess to be resolved yesterday, build a bridge, and move on already.
"We in the EU want no more charity cases in the club."
As soon as other net takers pay back what they got from Germany, France, Italy etc, we'll agree on. Anyway, the "net givers" support Albania, especially since Albania has troops in Chad, Afghanistan and before in Iraq. Serbia is sucking up to the Russians, Chinese, Iranians...
Tadic and his goverment need to rethink about his foreign policy's and without any excuses arrest and deliver Mladic and company ASAP. Then the EU can start about discussing the future of Serbia. Thats not hard to comprehend now is it .
Albania has a LONG way to enter the EU. It is far too poor and far too corrupt. If countries like Croatia, who are FAR richer than Albania are not in the EU, why should Albania join? It would be a net taker and absolutely not a giver. We in the EU want no more charity cases in the club.
The EU was created after the WWII with one aim only. To reconsile and unify the continent then facing a Soviet threat! The main mistake made after WWI was understood and corrected. Despite of the horrible loses of lives and destruction of property the nations were not to be divided on winners and losers! The borders fair or unfair were not to be challenged but overcome by peaceful measures. The same principles were applied in the East after 1989. Germany had to recognize the Oder-Nisa line etc.
Yugoslavia was a special case. It collapsed under its own weight and the "subjects of the Federation" were given the right of selfdetermination. All but Vojvodina chosed independence. Nobody sais that the "administrative borders" between them were fair, but few borders in Europe are! Kosovo was in a very formal way part of Serbia although it had all other trappings of a Yugoslavian republic. Most EU countries have extended their fondation principle to Kosovo as well. Ever since Serbia keeps making it clear that it does not consider the measures of overcomint the borders "European way" as an acceptable, how does Tadic expect Serbia to fit in the EU family?
Don't worry Mr Tadic - just keep on the path. There are a number of bigoted euro-politicians who still want to punish Serbia - but they will be marginalised in time.
The EU is not for the benefit of a few euro-politicians; it is there for the benefit of all the people of Europe.
Many EU politicians need to be reminded that they are there to serve and not just to stand in the way of people who are going the right way and doing the right thing.
As for Mladic - if he was a hero for Serbia he would give himself up. There is no future in his line of politics.
So I am getting from the comments and article that Serbia wants and needs to join the European Union. But inorder to do so Serbia needs to make changes to fit in with the 27 other countries.
However, the better option is for the 27 other countries to change to accomodate Serbia.
Is there a true difference in Serbian from 1995 and 2009?
Albanians why are you making fun of Tadic? before the elections you were all begging for Tadic to win because you thought he would give up Serbia's southern province of Kosovo in a matter of minutes. why the change of heart?
(hmm, 10 May 2009 16:06)
You have it all wrong. Albanians wanted the radicals to win. That way Serbia would isolate itself much quicker.
Double standards, sorry Serbia... bigger war criminals are from other countries. Pointing finger to USA and Israel specially. But nothing much is being done in that front.
@ Micheal Breathnach
Though I fully agree with your last sentence, I think that your views of Germans and their relationship to Serbia or the Serbs in general are sort of one-sided!
It is true that there was a lot of anti-serb propaganda in the German conservative newspapers and on tv (in the 1990s) which is why many elders have a rather negative opinion of Serbia without actually knowing anything about it`s people or the country since they only heard of Milosevic, Mladic etc. But it seems to me that you consider every German a latent nazi and the whole German society a Serb-hating fascist mob still celebrating Kaiser Wilhelm and Adolf Hitler!
You have it all wrong. Albanians wanted the radicals to win. That way Serbia would isolate itself much quicker.
(johny, 10 May 2009 19:54)
i actually read once that albanians in the 1990's boycotted serbian elections because they wanted milosevic to win which would keep serbia more isolated. interesting to see that there could be some truth in that.
however serbia is not going to get isolated since present serbian government is pro-western and it is indeed strange that some countries do not support this government more. there is little doubt that they do co-operate with the hague tribunal, but then again the dutch are "victims" of their own propaganda. but other than that serbia is wanted in the eu. given its position serbia is bound to be the leader of the region. the only question (and the reason for its previous isolation) was under whose supervision.
@Jasmin
MB Ireland was talking about german politics in balkans, and he is 100% right.
You are talking about german people.
Two different things, I think.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
D. Popovic
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