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Monday, 27.04.2009.

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3,500 without electricity in Kosovo

For a week now four Serb villages in Kosovsko Pomoravlje have been without electricity.

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nai

pre 14 godina

Ian UK,
maybe the greatest irony of all is that your very own UK has not paid up it's bills. For that matter neither has your small brother gone big, USA. Maybe both of your countries should be cut off from oil. Stones, glass houses and point rage make a bad combination.
You whole country is bust. You fellow citizens are loosing jobs left, right center and soon, very soon your mate at the pub will be begging you for a shilling or two to pay his bills, otherwise he'll get cut off. Then you'll recognize that UK is modern, democratic and tries the minimum to care for its citizens and you'll all be grant a free pass until your own country recovers.

John

pre 14 godina

No news to me. If I don't pay my bills, I would never be surprised not to get the service. I am nevertheless surprised that Kosovars of the Serbian ethnicity did get electricity for free for 10 years. An unbelievable positive discrimination.

PZ

pre 14 godina

“In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina.”

Ataman, can you please, for the sake of b92 readers and the truth itself, tell us where it has been reported that KEK asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Prishtina?
As far as I know, KEK enters into some contracts with all its debtors, being those Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, etc. by which KEK wants to soften the debt slowly, ex. if someone owns KEK let’s say 300€, by this contract the debtor will be paying each month’s new bill plus an agreed sum of the total debt.

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

@ Peggy

Regardless of the political dispute; if your using electricity it is only fair that you pay your provider for electricity bills. If they don't to pay their bills they don't get electricity. Simple.

blero

pre 14 godina

(Ataman, 28 April 2009 00:19)

The core purpose of the contract is to avoid situations like this occurring.
KEK provides service (albeit much below the desired standards however all Kosovars are in the same boat here).
A contract is binding document by which the user accepts liability for paying for the service.
I can assure that no Kosovo Albanian would question signing a document of liability with Serbia’s Electricity provider if they are the ones providing the electricity.
So this is very simple, take responsibility for the services you accept. No “small print”, nothing political.
Back to different countries/different habits theory.
Paying for electricity/services is not a question of a habit. It is a requirement.
Now comparing Paying for electricity with adultery is very illogical (and impossible to have parallels between the two).
Why politicise everything when Kosovo Serbs are concerned.
Nothing political here, simple service/payment case.
KEK provided the service and they want to be paid.
Kosovo Albanians pay for the service not because it is Kosovo but because it is the only way.
Ataman:
What happened to the old story of medical supplies being blocked in the border on daily based (6-7 months ago)?
Did the medical suppliers just suddenly start registering them correctly or was it something more cynical?
I emphasized that the whole thing had political background (that served at the time).
I do believe that the same thing is happening now (make noise for the political gain).
You have the ability of reading between the lines Ataman, I have a feeling that you are missing something in this picture.
The future will prove one of us wrong (I hope you).

Robert Burns

pre 14 godina

"In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)"

It is very unusual to get your electricity cut off. I have never known of it.

Also in Britain, you do not get cut off on the basis that other people don't pay their bills - that is an affront to our sense of justice.

In Britain you aren't asked to sign a political contract.

In Britain they have a modern infrastructure.

In Britain there is a great choice of which provider you choose to get your electricity from.

What is it you don't understand Ian? It's a pathetic set up and they can't properly run it - so they bully people with collective responsibility (Both Serb and Albanian)

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Different countries, different habits. In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina. No one utility service in the world does ask for such thing. Serbs are afraid to sign - they probably do not know, such signature is legally invalid because it was extorted.

Sorry Ataman, but you have been misinformed about signing a contract where it said you have to recognize Prishtina Authorities.
The letter head reads as follows: " Kosovo Energy Co." in three languages. As a local Kosovar I had to sign similar contract and nowhere did I see something like what you are alluding.

Hruz

pre 14 godina

Ataman

Why is there a reference to Hungary in amost all your comments.

I see you are aware mostly what's what there with a slight of leftist bias though.

If one doesn't pay the bills, especially in Hungary, they first cut and then ask if 1. they cut the right wire, or it is just an administrative mistake, and then you even pay 40 euro as "reconnection fee" apart from the outstanding bill.

This hysteria in Kosovo over bills is deplorable. Bunch of crooked people use the disguise to be immune from obligations.

Cygnus

pre 14 godina

In Britain you aren't restricted from even moving from your villiage in fear of abuse or worse because of your ethnicity, let alone being allowed to make viable living. And in Britain you haven't had land annexed and illegitimate authorities trying to rule over you.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)

Ian, don't compare Kosovo to England or anywhere else.
Many factors to consider in this political saga.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)

And in Saudi Arabia it is normal, that if you have fun outside of marriage you can be beheaded on a Friday, together with your g/f. For you it will be a black Friday, but for many on-lookers pure fun because beheadings are public.

Different countries, different habits. In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina. No one utility service in the world does ask for such thing. Serbs are afraid to sign - they probably do not know, such signature is legally invalid because it was extorted.

It would be good if anyone who is local could verify in all honesty, that this kind of extortion indeed happens.

If that's the case, all documents should be provided to the organization of, say, Serbian minority in Hungary. They would in turn question the Hungarian government about Kosovo recognition. As we know, an other political scandal is the least, what the barely-alive Hungarian government wants.

deceiver

pre 14 godina

Just follow what your fellow Serbs did in those other villages and do a contract with KEK to pay the 26 euros and enjoy your electricity. I'm sure you can muster up 26 euros...

Ataman

pre 14 godina

In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)

And in Saudi Arabia it is normal, that if you have fun outside of marriage you can be beheaded on a Friday, together with your g/f. For you it will be a black Friday, but for many on-lookers pure fun because beheadings are public.

Different countries, different habits. In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina. No one utility service in the world does ask for such thing. Serbs are afraid to sign - they probably do not know, such signature is legally invalid because it was extorted.

It would be good if anyone who is local could verify in all honesty, that this kind of extortion indeed happens.

If that's the case, all documents should be provided to the organization of, say, Serbian minority in Hungary. They would in turn question the Hungarian government about Kosovo recognition. As we know, an other political scandal is the least, what the barely-alive Hungarian government wants.

deceiver

pre 14 godina

Just follow what your fellow Serbs did in those other villages and do a contract with KEK to pay the 26 euros and enjoy your electricity. I'm sure you can muster up 26 euros...

Peggy

pre 14 godina

In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)

Ian, don't compare Kosovo to England or anywhere else.
Many factors to consider in this political saga.

Cygnus

pre 14 godina

In Britain you aren't restricted from even moving from your villiage in fear of abuse or worse because of your ethnicity, let alone being allowed to make viable living. And in Britain you haven't had land annexed and illegitimate authorities trying to rule over you.

blero

pre 14 godina

(Ataman, 28 April 2009 00:19)

The core purpose of the contract is to avoid situations like this occurring.
KEK provides service (albeit much below the desired standards however all Kosovars are in the same boat here).
A contract is binding document by which the user accepts liability for paying for the service.
I can assure that no Kosovo Albanian would question signing a document of liability with Serbia’s Electricity provider if they are the ones providing the electricity.
So this is very simple, take responsibility for the services you accept. No “small print”, nothing political.
Back to different countries/different habits theory.
Paying for electricity/services is not a question of a habit. It is a requirement.
Now comparing Paying for electricity with adultery is very illogical (and impossible to have parallels between the two).
Why politicise everything when Kosovo Serbs are concerned.
Nothing political here, simple service/payment case.
KEK provided the service and they want to be paid.
Kosovo Albanians pay for the service not because it is Kosovo but because it is the only way.
Ataman:
What happened to the old story of medical supplies being blocked in the border on daily based (6-7 months ago)?
Did the medical suppliers just suddenly start registering them correctly or was it something more cynical?
I emphasized that the whole thing had political background (that served at the time).
I do believe that the same thing is happening now (make noise for the political gain).
You have the ability of reading between the lines Ataman, I have a feeling that you are missing something in this picture.
The future will prove one of us wrong (I hope you).

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

@ Peggy

Regardless of the political dispute; if your using electricity it is only fair that you pay your provider for electricity bills. If they don't to pay their bills they don't get electricity. Simple.

PZ

pre 14 godina

“In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina.”

Ataman, can you please, for the sake of b92 readers and the truth itself, tell us where it has been reported that KEK asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Prishtina?
As far as I know, KEK enters into some contracts with all its debtors, being those Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, etc. by which KEK wants to soften the debt slowly, ex. if someone owns KEK let’s say 300€, by this contract the debtor will be paying each month’s new bill plus an agreed sum of the total debt.

Hruz

pre 14 godina

Ataman

Why is there a reference to Hungary in amost all your comments.

I see you are aware mostly what's what there with a slight of leftist bias though.

If one doesn't pay the bills, especially in Hungary, they first cut and then ask if 1. they cut the right wire, or it is just an administrative mistake, and then you even pay 40 euro as "reconnection fee" apart from the outstanding bill.

This hysteria in Kosovo over bills is deplorable. Bunch of crooked people use the disguise to be immune from obligations.

John

pre 14 godina

No news to me. If I don't pay my bills, I would never be surprised not to get the service. I am nevertheless surprised that Kosovars of the Serbian ethnicity did get electricity for free for 10 years. An unbelievable positive discrimination.

Robert Burns

pre 14 godina

"In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)"

It is very unusual to get your electricity cut off. I have never known of it.

Also in Britain, you do not get cut off on the basis that other people don't pay their bills - that is an affront to our sense of justice.

In Britain you aren't asked to sign a political contract.

In Britain they have a modern infrastructure.

In Britain there is a great choice of which provider you choose to get your electricity from.

What is it you don't understand Ian? It's a pathetic set up and they can't properly run it - so they bully people with collective responsibility (Both Serb and Albanian)

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Different countries, different habits. In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina. No one utility service in the world does ask for such thing. Serbs are afraid to sign - they probably do not know, such signature is legally invalid because it was extorted.

Sorry Ataman, but you have been misinformed about signing a contract where it said you have to recognize Prishtina Authorities.
The letter head reads as follows: " Kosovo Energy Co." in three languages. As a local Kosovar I had to sign similar contract and nowhere did I see something like what you are alluding.

nai

pre 14 godina

Ian UK,
maybe the greatest irony of all is that your very own UK has not paid up it's bills. For that matter neither has your small brother gone big, USA. Maybe both of your countries should be cut off from oil. Stones, glass houses and point rage make a bad combination.
You whole country is bust. You fellow citizens are loosing jobs left, right center and soon, very soon your mate at the pub will be begging you for a shilling or two to pay his bills, otherwise he'll get cut off. Then you'll recognize that UK is modern, democratic and tries the minimum to care for its citizens and you'll all be grant a free pass until your own country recovers.

Ataman

pre 14 godina

In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)

And in Saudi Arabia it is normal, that if you have fun outside of marriage you can be beheaded on a Friday, together with your g/f. For you it will be a black Friday, but for many on-lookers pure fun because beheadings are public.

Different countries, different habits. In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina. No one utility service in the world does ask for such thing. Serbs are afraid to sign - they probably do not know, such signature is legally invalid because it was extorted.

It would be good if anyone who is local could verify in all honesty, that this kind of extortion indeed happens.

If that's the case, all documents should be provided to the organization of, say, Serbian minority in Hungary. They would in turn question the Hungarian government about Kosovo recognition. As we know, an other political scandal is the least, what the barely-alive Hungarian government wants.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)

Ian, don't compare Kosovo to England or anywhere else.
Many factors to consider in this political saga.

nai

pre 14 godina

Ian UK,
maybe the greatest irony of all is that your very own UK has not paid up it's bills. For that matter neither has your small brother gone big, USA. Maybe both of your countries should be cut off from oil. Stones, glass houses and point rage make a bad combination.
You whole country is bust. You fellow citizens are loosing jobs left, right center and soon, very soon your mate at the pub will be begging you for a shilling or two to pay his bills, otherwise he'll get cut off. Then you'll recognize that UK is modern, democratic and tries the minimum to care for its citizens and you'll all be grant a free pass until your own country recovers.

deceiver

pre 14 godina

Just follow what your fellow Serbs did in those other villages and do a contract with KEK to pay the 26 euros and enjoy your electricity. I'm sure you can muster up 26 euros...

Cygnus

pre 14 godina

In Britain you aren't restricted from even moving from your villiage in fear of abuse or worse because of your ethnicity, let alone being allowed to make viable living. And in Britain you haven't had land annexed and illegitimate authorities trying to rule over you.

Robert Burns

pre 14 godina

"In Britain it is only normal to have your electricity turned off if you refuse to pay your pills.
(Ian, UK, 27 April 2009 20:06)"

It is very unusual to get your electricity cut off. I have never known of it.

Also in Britain, you do not get cut off on the basis that other people don't pay their bills - that is an affront to our sense of justice.

In Britain you aren't asked to sign a political contract.

In Britain they have a modern infrastructure.

In Britain there is a great choice of which provider you choose to get your electricity from.

What is it you don't understand Ian? It's a pathetic set up and they can't properly run it - so they bully people with collective responsibility (Both Serb and Albanian)

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Different countries, different habits. In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina. No one utility service in the world does ask for such thing. Serbs are afraid to sign - they probably do not know, such signature is legally invalid because it was extorted.

Sorry Ataman, but you have been misinformed about signing a contract where it said you have to recognize Prishtina Authorities.
The letter head reads as follows: " Kosovo Energy Co." in three languages. As a local Kosovar I had to sign similar contract and nowhere did I see something like what you are alluding.

Hruz

pre 14 godina

Ataman

Why is there a reference to Hungary in amost all your comments.

I see you are aware mostly what's what there with a slight of leftist bias though.

If one doesn't pay the bills, especially in Hungary, they first cut and then ask if 1. they cut the right wire, or it is just an administrative mistake, and then you even pay 40 euro as "reconnection fee" apart from the outstanding bill.

This hysteria in Kosovo over bills is deplorable. Bunch of crooked people use the disguise to be immune from obligations.

blero

pre 14 godina

(Ataman, 28 April 2009 00:19)

The core purpose of the contract is to avoid situations like this occurring.
KEK provides service (albeit much below the desired standards however all Kosovars are in the same boat here).
A contract is binding document by which the user accepts liability for paying for the service.
I can assure that no Kosovo Albanian would question signing a document of liability with Serbia’s Electricity provider if they are the ones providing the electricity.
So this is very simple, take responsibility for the services you accept. No “small print”, nothing political.
Back to different countries/different habits theory.
Paying for electricity/services is not a question of a habit. It is a requirement.
Now comparing Paying for electricity with adultery is very illogical (and impossible to have parallels between the two).
Why politicise everything when Kosovo Serbs are concerned.
Nothing political here, simple service/payment case.
KEK provided the service and they want to be paid.
Kosovo Albanians pay for the service not because it is Kosovo but because it is the only way.
Ataman:
What happened to the old story of medical supplies being blocked in the border on daily based (6-7 months ago)?
Did the medical suppliers just suddenly start registering them correctly or was it something more cynical?
I emphasized that the whole thing had political background (that served at the time).
I do believe that the same thing is happening now (make noise for the political gain).
You have the ability of reading between the lines Ataman, I have a feeling that you are missing something in this picture.
The future will prove one of us wrong (I hope you).

Ian, UK

pre 14 godina

@ Peggy

Regardless of the political dispute; if your using electricity it is only fair that you pay your provider for electricity bills. If they don't to pay their bills they don't get electricity. Simple.

PZ

pre 14 godina

“In this case the electricity bill is reported to be an excuse - because KEK (as reported) asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Pristina.”

Ataman, can you please, for the sake of b92 readers and the truth itself, tell us where it has been reported that KEK asks Serbs to sign a paper that they recognize authorities in Prishtina?
As far as I know, KEK enters into some contracts with all its debtors, being those Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians, etc. by which KEK wants to soften the debt slowly, ex. if someone owns KEK let’s say 300€, by this contract the debtor will be paying each month’s new bill plus an agreed sum of the total debt.

John

pre 14 godina

No news to me. If I don't pay my bills, I would never be surprised not to get the service. I am nevertheless surprised that Kosovars of the Serbian ethnicity did get electricity for free for 10 years. An unbelievable positive discrimination.