"American VP in Serbia in May"

newborn: "I will tell you: in KOSOVA 1998-2009 we had many visits from Bill Clinton and his high representatives of the White House, which it means Serbian Governament is admitting that the Kosova is different country, despite the visits."

Sinking to pedantry is a bit of a stretch. But no, he was visiting Kosovo as a UN protectorate not a state.

newborn

What a joker you are! So, Serbia is accepting an independent Kosovo!!!
That's why they accepted the 6 point plan. Thant's why they took it to ICJ! That's why Russia, China and more then 2/3 of the world continue to block Kosovo! That's why few serbs
want anything to do with the fake albanian institutions in Kosovo!

So how often do we hear from our fellow Serbian citizen (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) that Serbia will need to recognise Kosovo for seemingly everything is has to do with developing EU and US relations?

For instance, Serbia will need to recognise Kosovo to join the EU. Serbia needs to recognise Kosovo if it needs a loan from the IMF. Serbia needs to recognise Kosovo to gain visa liberalisation with the EU and so on and so forth.

What is obvious here is the importance placed on Serbian recognition of Kosovo. It highlights the fact that Kosovo will never become independent without Serbia approval. These citizens seemingly know that and now lay their misguided hopes on Serbia agreeing to amputate 15% of its heart and soul to a group of citizens who continue to wave the flag of another nation.

So they need to understand that recognition can never and will never happen. This fantasy needs to be forgotten and proper negotiations started. Lets hope these meetings with the US start producing some positive results and that Obama will be more compromising than the previous administrations. He has already hinted that Bondsteel may be coming to an end.

No need coz Biden is a big supporter of the Kosovo separatists.

"...no progress had been made regarding the most serious problem in relations between the two countries – Kosovo."

Only minor progress should be made as long as Kosovo is under foreign occupation. Americans should realize that there are rules and international laws to abide by. They can't just occupie someone elses territory. However, sooner or later all occupations end.

Kosovo-USA, if 10% are strongly against Kosovo independence then you must realise that only 5% are strongly in favour of independence (the occupiers). The other 20% that have recognised Kosovo have either caved into pressure or have been brided. But it doesn't mean anything without recognition from Serbia so we can spend the next 20 years arguing about the status of Kosovo, which has obviously not been resolved. Start negotiations and we may move forward regardless of whether Biden visits our Southern provice and talks about state building, you can be sure they are just empty words.

Also, a Serbian politician going to the White house has little significance as we all know we are much closer to Russia than the US. Remind me when an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo last visited the Kremlin or Beijing?

..you wont like what he will state in Belgrade, just warning you.
Pejoni

Thanks for the warning! It's great to have "friends" like you who look and take care of us Serbs and make sure we are protected from all the evils of the world.

By the way when was Serbian President and PM invited at White House?
Kosovo-USA

What does this have to do with the number of countries recognizing Kosovo? Stick to the subject or don't bother.

Alban
Try to get through your head that a majority of serbs DON'T want to join NATO! Why is this so hard for you to understand? Yes, Serbia hopes to join the EU one day but not join America. If the EU forces Serbia to recognize Kosovo they would have to force Slovakia, Spain, Cyprus and all other countries that haven't and never will recognize the illegal occupation of Serbian territory.
Serbia and America has agreed to dissagre regarding Kosovo. You think America is going to treaten Serbia with NATO bombings and sanctions if they don't recognize Kosovo. KEEP DREAMING!

Kate & others,

I have absolutely no problem with Kosovo as country. See Cherokee Nation. Some Nations in the States have their own very privileged citizenship and passports. I never can get such documents because I am not a Cherokee.

They can run casinos, have their system of grants and many other things I cannot even guess. I would never object Cherokee being represented in UN or any other place.

So yes, it is a separate country.... like the country of Cherokee - part of USA.

Just read this:

http://tinyurl.com/cgdxgz

"To be eligible for CDIB/Tribal Citizenship with the Cherokee Nation, you must be able to provide documents that connect you to an enrolled lineal ancestor, who is listed on the (DAWES ROLL) FINAL ROLLS OF CITIZENS AND FREEDMEN OF THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES, Cherokee Nation with a blood degree. This roll was taken between 1899-1906 of Citizens and Freedmen residing in Indian Territory (now NE Oklahoma)."

All of us know the terrible fate of Native Americans in 19th century, now the Cherokee are Cherokee citizens and US citizens.

I guess, would Bill Clinton live in 19th century, he would probably organize a humanitarian bombing of Boston or New York....

He will be visiting Kosovo and other Balkan states aswell, Serbia dont have nor will ever have the honour being the only state to be visisted by a high American official. He is a good friend of Thaçi and the Kosovar ppl, you wont like what he will state in Belgrade, just warning you.

"
The newspaper says it will be the most important American diplomatic visit "since June 1980", when then U.S. President Jimmy Carter was in Belgrade".

.

I am glad that B92 tells the truth that since 1980, USA diplomatic delegations did not visit Serbia. what I understand now, that Serbia is accepting the Republic of Kosovo, but in silently still, if you ask me why? I will tell you: in KOSOVA 1998-2009 we had many visits from Bill Clinton and his high representatives of the White House, which it means Serbian Governament is admitting that the Kosova is different country, despite the visits.
I would like to advise the Serbian nation, to read this article and to understand the truth.

Change we can believe in, Obama even met with Chavez.

>> "What a joker you are! So, Serbia is accepting an independent Kosovo!!!
That's why they accepted the 6 point plan. Thant's why they took it to ICJ! That's why Russia, China and more then 2/3 of the world continue to block Kosovo! That's why few serbs
want anything to do with the fake albanian institutions in Kosovo!"

Who cares what Russia and Iran do? Serbia hopes to join EU one day, not Iran. Albania tomorrow submits its application that has broad support from EU powers since it is also a NATO member. Albania and Croatia are also in NATO so Biden will make Serbia an offer they can't refuse: accept Kosova publicly and MAY get in at the same time as Albania. Continue the pigheaded policies and kiss EU (and Kosova of course) good bye

US Vice President, Joseph Bidden to visit Kosovo during May

According to RTK (Radio Television Kosovo) sources in Washington, US vice President Joseph Bidden will pay an official visit to Kosovo during the month of May. It is expected that vice President Bidden will arrive in Pristina between 17 and 21 of May.

With his visit to Pristina, vice President Bidden will start his diplomatic tour in the region, during which he will visit some other Balkan countries.

What a complete waste of time and money for Biden to visit Belgrade. Biden has openly stated his venemous hatred towards Serbs- after being briefed in the 1980's by a Croatian priest in the US- not to mention the Albanian lobbying efforts in the US aimed at getting Biden's political support. There is absolutely nothing positive that Biden will do to improve US-Serbia relations- only coming with possible threats and ultimatums toward the Serbs. Even in the US, he has very little political credibility (only his "office" has credibility) because of his brashness and inability to negotiate and view different sides of a problem. So having Biden visit Belgrade will be of no actual help in any way- but it can and probably will raise more animosities towards the US and the West.

newborn

What a joker you are! So, Serbia is accepting an independent Kosovo!!!
That's why they accepted the 6 point plan. Thant's why they took it to ICJ! That's why Russia, China and more then 2/3 of the world continue to block Kosovo! That's why few serbs
want anything to do with the fake albanian institutions in Kosovo!
(MikeC, 27 April 2009 12:11)

No MikeC, 2/3 of the world are not blocking Kosova.
Let me put it to this way: " About 10% are categorically against Kosova Independence, and the rest either have no opinon as of yet or have recognized Kosova allready.
I think you should do little more reaserch before you post such coment.
By the way when was Serbian President and PM invited at White House?

No need coz Biden is a big supporter of the Kosovo separatists.
(Pro-Serbia, 27 April 2009 11:08)
Can I also suggest that Serbia
screens this guy for the pig flu virus that is now in Mexico and the U.S.
Maybe quarantine him for 3 days and put him on the next plane out of N.Tesla airport.

This man should be declared "persona non grata" by Serbian State, for the damage he has done to the Serbs.
One can bet anything , from Belgrade, he'd continue to 'Kosova', to show equal importance to two regimes.
Just remains to be seen what further lecturing to the Serbs will he deliver.

"
The newspaper says it will be the most important American diplomatic visit "since June 1980", when then U.S. President Jimmy Carter was in Belgrade".

I too am really glad that B92 said this. It just demonstrates that all the visits that were made to Serbia during the Cliton years were not very important visits. They accomplished nothing positive, just kept a population in limbo for 10 years, stole land from one population to give to another. Carter did something positive.

We are Albanians, Sali Berisha represent our nation in Beijing and Kremlin...

(Jarina, 27 April 2009 20:15)
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You are Serbian citizens of Albanian ethnicity. The majority are not Albanian citizens so there's no point showing the leader of another country.

Dear B92,
Your paragraph regarding the visit of Jimmy Carter is inaccurate and misleading. He visited Belgrade, then the capitol of Yugoslavia to attend the funeral of Josip Broz Tito.

I hope you correct this one, I know some of you are young journalist who can't recall this even.

HERE COMES A MAN WITH NO CHANGE!!

Also, a Serbian politician going to the White house has little significance as we all know we are much closer to Russia than the US. Remind me when an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo last visited the Kremlin or Beijing?
(Zoran, 27 April 2009 15:41)

We are Albanians, Sali Berisha represent our nation in Beijing and Kremlin...

http://www.km.gov.al/galeri/April-21-16-58-52jiabao6.JPG

>> "Try to get through your head that a majority of serbs DON'T want to join NATO! Why is this so hard for you to understand? Yes, Serbia hopes to join the EU one day but not join America."

Go ahead and try joining one without the other. You can;t hate and insult NATO when most EU also belong in NATO.

>>"If the EU forces Serbia to recognize Kosovo they would have to force Slovakia, Spain, Cyprus and all other countries that haven't and never will recognize the illegal occupation of Serbian territory."

Never? Who are you to speak for them. EU is made of members and Germany, France and UK run the show. No green light until...

No new Cyprus problems for EU, how hard is it to understand? EU or not? They make the rules, not you. You are begging to get in

That me correct this; Jimmy Carter didn't visit Serbia in 1978. He visited SFRY, which means Yugoslavia and the president of that time was JOSIP BROZ TITO. That means this will be the first visit to Serbia from VP Biden.

Sorry to tell you this - but the Obama Administration does not care about Serbia and should not be considered a friend. Obama is ultra-liberal and does not respect Serbia in regard to Kosovo.

This visit - if it's correct - obviously a little reminder.
I do not expect anything monumental to happen, just formal gestures exchanged.

The background: some people have to be reminded, there is only one captain on the ship (or only one bagpiper in a kafana, "egy csárdában két dudás nem fér el" in Hungarian). So nothing else, just the world had to acknowledge, who is the ONLY captain / bagpiper.

Very wise move, all respect for that.

Didn't I say earlier, it will happen? I just did not expected it to happen that soon.

wow this is such big news. really it is... v.p Biden a great freind of the Kosovars who has fought for justic and the freeing of Kosova from Serbia. v.p Biden might go to Belgrade to tell them to give up fighting for what is not yours. However v.p Biden will be in Prishtina a full state visit.

The planned visit of Vice President Biden and his boys to Serbia should be viewed very circumspectly. I believe that he will try and strong-arm or otherwise push the Serbian Government to accept President Obama's position concerning Kosovo. As an American I do not trust the President or his Man Biden. In any talks or arrangements with these men, I would suggest the following: "Trust But Verify".

Yours Faithfully,

Professor Dr. Douglas M. Cotner

We are Albanians, Sali Berisha represent our nation in Beijing and Kremlin...


(Jarina, 27 April 2009 20:15)

Next time "vote different", please. Sali Berisha is one of the last "bolsheviks" around.

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That me correct this; Jimmy Carter didn't visit Serbia in 1978. He visited SFRY, which means Yugoslavia and the president of that time was JOSIP BROZ TITO. That means this will be the first visit to Serbia from VP Biden.

(prizreni, 28 April 2009 00:39)

Yes, that's correct.

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HERE COMES A MAN WITH NO CHANGE!!

(DRAGAN B, 28 April 2009 01:22)

Incorrect, this is IMO one of the best, maybe even monumental news. Please read #23 and maybe figure out, why is that.

"
The newspaper says it will be the most important American diplomatic visit "since June 1980", when then U.S. President Jimmy Carter was in Belgrade".

.

I am glad that B92 tells the truth that since 1980, USA diplomatic delegations did not visit Serbia. what I understand now, that Serbia is accepting the Republic of Kosovo, but in silently still, if you ask me why? I will tell you: in KOSOVA 1998-2009 we had many visits from Bill Clinton and his high representatives of the White House, which it means Serbian Governament is admitting that the Kosova is different country, despite the visits.
I would like to advise the Serbian nation, to read this article and to understand the truth.

He will be visiting Kosovo and other Balkan states aswell, Serbia dont have nor will ever have the honour being the only state to be visisted by a high American official. He is a good friend of Thaçi and the Kosovar ppl, you wont like what he will state in Belgrade, just warning you.

>> "What a joker you are! So, Serbia is accepting an independent Kosovo!!!
That's why they accepted the 6 point plan. Thant's why they took it to ICJ! That's why Russia, China and more then 2/3 of the world continue to block Kosovo! That's why few serbs
want anything to do with the fake albanian institutions in Kosovo!"

Who cares what Russia and Iran do? Serbia hopes to join EU one day, not Iran. Albania tomorrow submits its application that has broad support from EU powers since it is also a NATO member. Albania and Croatia are also in NATO so Biden will make Serbia an offer they can't refuse: accept Kosova publicly and MAY get in at the same time as Albania. Continue the pigheaded policies and kiss EU (and Kosova of course) good bye

newborn

What a joker you are! So, Serbia is accepting an independent Kosovo!!!
That's why they accepted the 6 point plan. Thant's why they took it to ICJ! That's why Russia, China and more then 2/3 of the world continue to block Kosovo! That's why few serbs
want anything to do with the fake albanian institutions in Kosovo!
(MikeC, 27 April 2009 12:11)

No MikeC, 2/3 of the world are not blocking Kosova.
Let me put it to this way: " About 10% are categorically against Kosova Independence, and the rest either have no opinon as of yet or have recognized Kosova allready.
I think you should do little more reaserch before you post such coment.
By the way when was Serbian President and PM invited at White House?

newborn: "I will tell you: in KOSOVA 1998-2009 we had many visits from Bill Clinton and his high representatives of the White House, which it means Serbian Governament is admitting that the Kosova is different country, despite the visits."

Sinking to pedantry is a bit of a stretch. But no, he was visiting Kosovo as a UN protectorate not a state.

newborn

What a joker you are! So, Serbia is accepting an independent Kosovo!!!
That's why they accepted the 6 point plan. Thant's why they took it to ICJ! That's why Russia, China and more then 2/3 of the world continue to block Kosovo! That's why few serbs
want anything to do with the fake albanian institutions in Kosovo!

"...no progress had been made regarding the most serious problem in relations between the two countries – Kosovo."

Only minor progress should be made as long as Kosovo is under foreign occupation. Americans should realize that there are rules and international laws to abide by. They can't just occupie someone elses territory. However, sooner or later all occupations end.

US Vice President, Joseph Bidden to visit Kosovo during May

According to RTK (Radio Television Kosovo) sources in Washington, US vice President Joseph Bidden will pay an official visit to Kosovo during the month of May. It is expected that vice President Bidden will arrive in Pristina between 17 and 21 of May.

With his visit to Pristina, vice President Bidden will start his diplomatic tour in the region, during which he will visit some other Balkan countries.

So how often do we hear from our fellow Serbian citizen (mainly of Albanian ethnicity) that Serbia will need to recognise Kosovo for seemingly everything is has to do with developing EU and US relations?

For instance, Serbia will need to recognise Kosovo to join the EU. Serbia needs to recognise Kosovo if it needs a loan from the IMF. Serbia needs to recognise Kosovo to gain visa liberalisation with the EU and so on and so forth.

What is obvious here is the importance placed on Serbian recognition of Kosovo. It highlights the fact that Kosovo will never become independent without Serbia approval. These citizens seemingly know that and now lay their misguided hopes on Serbia agreeing to amputate 15% of its heart and soul to a group of citizens who continue to wave the flag of another nation.

So they need to understand that recognition can never and will never happen. This fantasy needs to be forgotten and proper negotiations started. Lets hope these meetings with the US start producing some positive results and that Obama will be more compromising than the previous administrations. He has already hinted that Bondsteel may be coming to an end.

>> "Try to get through your head that a majority of serbs DON'T want to join NATO! Why is this so hard for you to understand? Yes, Serbia hopes to join the EU one day but not join America."

Go ahead and try joining one without the other. You can;t hate and insult NATO when most EU also belong in NATO.

>>"If the EU forces Serbia to recognize Kosovo they would have to force Slovakia, Spain, Cyprus and all other countries that haven't and never will recognize the illegal occupation of Serbian territory."

Never? Who are you to speak for them. EU is made of members and Germany, France and UK run the show. No green light until...

No new Cyprus problems for EU, how hard is it to understand? EU or not? They make the rules, not you. You are begging to get in

Change we can believe in, Obama even met with Chavez.

Kate & others,

I have absolutely no problem with Kosovo as country. See Cherokee Nation. Some Nations in the States have their own very privileged citizenship and passports. I never can get such documents because I am not a Cherokee.

They can run casinos, have their system of grants and many other things I cannot even guess. I would never object Cherokee being represented in UN or any other place.

So yes, it is a separate country.... like the country of Cherokee - part of USA.

Just read this:

http://tinyurl.com/cgdxgz

"To be eligible for CDIB/Tribal Citizenship with the Cherokee Nation, you must be able to provide documents that connect you to an enrolled lineal ancestor, who is listed on the (DAWES ROLL) FINAL ROLLS OF CITIZENS AND FREEDMEN OF THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES, Cherokee Nation with a blood degree. This roll was taken between 1899-1906 of Citizens and Freedmen residing in Indian Territory (now NE Oklahoma)."

All of us know the terrible fate of Native Americans in 19th century, now the Cherokee are Cherokee citizens and US citizens.

I guess, would Bill Clinton live in 19th century, he would probably organize a humanitarian bombing of Boston or New York....

Also, a Serbian politician going to the White house has little significance as we all know we are much closer to Russia than the US. Remind me when an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo last visited the Kremlin or Beijing?
(Zoran, 27 April 2009 15:41)

We are Albanians, Sali Berisha represent our nation in Beijing and Kremlin...

http://www.km.gov.al/galeri/April-21-16-58-52jiabao6.JPG

No need coz Biden is a big supporter of the Kosovo separatists.

By the way when was Serbian President and PM invited at White House?
Kosovo-USA

What does this have to do with the number of countries recognizing Kosovo? Stick to the subject or don't bother.

Alban
Try to get through your head that a majority of serbs DON'T want to join NATO! Why is this so hard for you to understand? Yes, Serbia hopes to join the EU one day but not join America. If the EU forces Serbia to recognize Kosovo they would have to force Slovakia, Spain, Cyprus and all other countries that haven't and never will recognize the illegal occupation of Serbian territory.
Serbia and America has agreed to dissagre regarding Kosovo. You think America is going to treaten Serbia with NATO bombings and sanctions if they don't recognize Kosovo. KEEP DREAMING!

..you wont like what he will state in Belgrade, just warning you.
Pejoni

Thanks for the warning! It's great to have "friends" like you who look and take care of us Serbs and make sure we are protected from all the evils of the world.

Kosovo-USA, if 10% are strongly against Kosovo independence then you must realise that only 5% are strongly in favour of independence (the occupiers). The other 20% that have recognised Kosovo have either caved into pressure or have been brided. But it doesn't mean anything without recognition from Serbia so we can spend the next 20 years arguing about the status of Kosovo, which has obviously not been resolved. Start negotiations and we may move forward regardless of whether Biden visits our Southern provice and talks about state building, you can be sure they are just empty words.

Also, a Serbian politician going to the White house has little significance as we all know we are much closer to Russia than the US. Remind me when an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo last visited the Kremlin or Beijing?

No need coz Biden is a big supporter of the Kosovo separatists.
(Pro-Serbia, 27 April 2009 11:08)
Can I also suggest that Serbia
screens this guy for the pig flu virus that is now in Mexico and the U.S.
Maybe quarantine him for 3 days and put him on the next plane out of N.Tesla airport.

We are Albanians, Sali Berisha represent our nation in Beijing and Kremlin...

(Jarina, 27 April 2009 20:15)
--
You are Serbian citizens of Albanian ethnicity. The majority are not Albanian citizens so there's no point showing the leader of another country.

wow this is such big news. really it is... v.p Biden a great freind of the Kosovars who has fought for justic and the freeing of Kosova from Serbia. v.p Biden might go to Belgrade to tell them to give up fighting for what is not yours. However v.p Biden will be in Prishtina a full state visit.

What a complete waste of time and money for Biden to visit Belgrade. Biden has openly stated his venemous hatred towards Serbs- after being briefed in the 1980's by a Croatian priest in the US- not to mention the Albanian lobbying efforts in the US aimed at getting Biden's political support. There is absolutely nothing positive that Biden will do to improve US-Serbia relations- only coming with possible threats and ultimatums toward the Serbs. Even in the US, he has very little political credibility (only his "office" has credibility) because of his brashness and inability to negotiate and view different sides of a problem. So having Biden visit Belgrade will be of no actual help in any way- but it can and probably will raise more animosities towards the US and the West.

This man should be declared "persona non grata" by Serbian State, for the damage he has done to the Serbs.
One can bet anything , from Belgrade, he'd continue to 'Kosova', to show equal importance to two regimes.
Just remains to be seen what further lecturing to the Serbs will he deliver.

"
The newspaper says it will be the most important American diplomatic visit "since June 1980", when then U.S. President Jimmy Carter was in Belgrade".

I too am really glad that B92 said this. It just demonstrates that all the visits that were made to Serbia during the Cliton years were not very important visits. They accomplished nothing positive, just kept a population in limbo for 10 years, stole land from one population to give to another. Carter did something positive.

We are Albanians, Sali Berisha represent our nation in Beijing and Kremlin...


(Jarina, 27 April 2009 20:15)

Next time "vote different", please. Sali Berisha is one of the last "bolsheviks" around.

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That me correct this; Jimmy Carter didn't visit Serbia in 1978. He visited SFRY, which means Yugoslavia and the president of that time was JOSIP BROZ TITO. That means this will be the first visit to Serbia from VP Biden.

(prizreni, 28 April 2009 00:39)

Yes, that's correct.

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HERE COMES A MAN WITH NO CHANGE!!

(DRAGAN B, 28 April 2009 01:22)

Incorrect, this is IMO one of the best, maybe even monumental news. Please read #23 and maybe figure out, why is that.

That me correct this; Jimmy Carter didn't visit Serbia in 1978. He visited SFRY, which means Yugoslavia and the president of that time was JOSIP BROZ TITO. That means this will be the first visit to Serbia from VP Biden.

HERE COMES A MAN WITH NO CHANGE!!

This visit - if it's correct - obviously a little reminder.
I do not expect anything monumental to happen, just formal gestures exchanged.

The background: some people have to be reminded, there is only one captain on the ship (or only one bagpiper in a kafana, "egy csárdában két dudás nem fér el" in Hungarian). So nothing else, just the world had to acknowledge, who is the ONLY captain / bagpiper.

Very wise move, all respect for that.

Didn't I say earlier, it will happen? I just did not expected it to happen that soon.

Dear B92,
Your paragraph regarding the visit of Jimmy Carter is inaccurate and misleading. He visited Belgrade, then the capitol of Yugoslavia to attend the funeral of Josip Broz Tito.

I hope you correct this one, I know some of you are young journalist who can't recall this even.

Sorry to tell you this - but the Obama Administration does not care about Serbia and should not be considered a friend. Obama is ultra-liberal and does not respect Serbia in regard to Kosovo.

The planned visit of Vice President Biden and his boys to Serbia should be viewed very circumspectly. I believe that he will try and strong-arm or otherwise push the Serbian Government to accept President Obama's position concerning Kosovo. As an American I do not trust the President or his Man Biden. In any talks or arrangements with these men, I would suggest the following: "Trust But Verify".

Yours Faithfully,

Professor Dr. Douglas M. Cotner