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Saturday, 25.04.2009.

10:43

Serbia, Montenegro to "foster relations"

Serbian and Montenegrin Presidents Boris Tadić and Filip Vujanović said Friday that the two states should foster cooperation.

Izvor: Tanjug

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AdamSRB

pre 15 godina

I was just thinking the same thing as Peggy!

80% of Serbs in CG and they recognise Kosovo.

I think the Albanians, Croatians, Bosniaks and Mountainegroes belong to the same group.

But than again Tadic & Co aren't any better, Serbia are pretty much going to sell Kosovo for EU.

We'll see what happens.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Ataman, are you trying to tell me that Milo somehow forged all those ballots?

Remember, there was an election and every ballot counted. So who actually voted for him. I don't care what he was or still is, he still has to win on numbers.

He obviously had the numbers. You cannot deny that.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Then what happened? Why did your government recognize Kosovo? Also, after recognizing Kosovo you voted that Milo in again. What does that tell us about Montenegrins (who are also Serbs)?
(Peggy, 26 April 2009 08:00)

Milo is an excellent bolshevik and great follower of his teacher (Milosevic), that's what happened. A good bolshevik-commie knows how to ride a bicycle: bow to the "top" and push with his feet who are underneath.

And every good bolshevik-commie just hopes, he will be at the top - to kick the rest with his feet. Only few best ones did achieve the goal and they tend to stay forever.

Just google on "Democratic Centralism" and get the idea about bolshevik tactics. "Democratic Centralism" is the alfa and omega how things in a terror organization do work, be them Russian Bolsheviks or Albanian UCK (yes, Thaci did begin as leninist and still is a leninist)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism

And running drug ring or cigarette smuggling is also OK - Stalin did rob the banks to support bolsheviks.

nik

pre 15 godina

To "Oh those Russians"

How "smart" tsar Boris of Bulgaria was became clea 3 year late. Bulgaria did not attack the USSR when it was most vulnarable, but the USSR attacked Bulgaria when it was safe for it to do - in September 1944 and installed some odf the harshest communist regimes in Eastern Europe. It managed to di it because the"smart" Boris had decleared a "symbolic" war to the USA and the UK. The Fins proved much smarter. They decreared war on the USSR, but kept relations with the Western Allies. So in the same September, they signed a peace with the USSR, avoinding occupation.
It is very importent to chose your friends and enemies. Because with friends like you...who needs enemies?

Peggy

pre 15 godina

After all Serbs/Montenegrins constitute together about 80% of the population while Albanian only 5 %.
(CG, 25 April 2009 14:32)

Then what happened? Why did your government recognize Kosovo? Also, after recognizing Kosovo you voted that Milo in again. What does that tell us about Montenegrins (who are also Serbs)?

Oh those Russians !

pre 15 godina

Hello Serbia !

In June 1941 the Bulgarian Tsar Boris pressed by Hitler to join the war has made a very wise trick to escape this disgrace for the Bulgarians. One morning at the same time all the soldiers and officers of the Army were told : ”Who is ready to fight Russia step forward”. In the whole army nobody did. Then Boris just phoned Hitler : ”My army won’t fight the Russians” … I know it little helped the Greek and the Yugoslavians but yet it saved our traditional ( by that time ) relations with the Bulgarians.
What I am going to tell you is that Jukanovic is really doing quite the opposite cause unlike the Bulgarian Boris he is personally interested in further poisoning the relations with the Serbs. Same like Ushenko is undermining relations between the Russians and other Russians now called Ukrainians. Thus I believe that Tadic has better chances for understanding with the another US envoy known as Mesic. Strange as it is but any other Montenegrin leader will do almost the same things. Only under this condition their President won’t become a vice-president , their minister of defense won’t become a commander of a division et cetera. What a pity !

ВМЕСТЕ МЫ ПОБЕДИМ !

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Croatia, Macedonia and Montenegro are advancing on the path to the EU, while Serbia has been left behind.
(Mircea, 25 April 2009 15:31)

Mircea,

The only two reasons Hungarians supported EU are:

1) To re-unite with Transylvania
2) To get a job in Germany or UK

The #1 was more successful (Romania is in EU). Regarding #2: only from this or next year there won't be employment stop ("second grade EU citizen") in Austria and Germany. UK was so far OK, but the people begun to return home.

For me neither #1 nor #2 is very important (#1 is probably bottoming my interests). I don't care less about #2 either. More interesting than EU is how the local government is doing. With that aspect everyone is underachiever. Serbia can be proud, it is closer to the top... but still underachiever. From Poland to FYROM this is the kingdom of the blind, except Slovakia and Serbia (maybe Slovenia and Romania?) now are the one-eyed. So they are the king.

Other than that, the EU wasn't really a success story here. The food, gas, transportation prices rose tremendously, the food here is definitly more expensive than in USA - but not the salaries.

With all "pro" and "contra" - EU is light years behind of USA on areas they should be ahead of it. Only Russia has potential comparable to USA, but I wish it wouldn't be led so miserably as it is. Still, a $2K - $3K salary for an engineer in Moscow is not a rarity. Find it in Hungary if you can... Yeah, of course, salesmen who work for foreign companies. But not engineers!

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Montenegro and west macedonija is Albania from before.
(Albani, 25 April 2009 15:11)

How about Tattoine, Naboo, Galactic Empire, Klingons? They were all Albanian for 2-3 billion years in the row - but evil Serbs chased them from Naboo away.

You can come up with 10 conspiracy theories about Dardania, I will counter it with twice as more "proving", Hungarians are Sumerians, Russians are Hittites and Serbs are just the proper 50-50 mix of both - and we ate that your puny Dardania for lunch.

Please, stay serious. I don't care less, what was 500, 5000 or 50000 years ago. We are here and now and no one has less rights than the other.

You can tell me your Dardanian fairy-tales during the drink, I will tell you my Sumerian and Hittite fairy-tales, but they are just fairy-tales and must not have any weight today.

Mexicans have more rightful claims to the entire U.S. West + South and different Indian nations the rest of the country than you to CG or KiM or MK.

CG

pre 15 godina

@Albani

Don`t worry about Montenegro,we are doing fine.
If I were you I would keep the ancient Montenegrin city of Scutari/Skadar in good shape.
Sooner or later it will return to its rightful owner.

Rick

pre 15 godina

Before Serbia cooperates with Crna Gora in any sector- including the energy sector- Podgorica needs to reverse their Kosovo recognition. And it's possible for Djukanovic to get out of this by simply calling for an honest referendum by the people. But until this is done, Djukanovic is truly NOT representing his people truthfully, no matter what "spin" he puts on this fake recognition. Crna Gora needs Serbia now more than ever since the Russians have become fed up with Djukanovic's games and have pulled all of their investment capital out of Montenegro. When will the Crna Gorci wake up???

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Montenegro is Albania now...leave alone Serbia. No go there...you go Russia
(Albani, 25 April 2009 12:13)

Some complain that 150 Euro / month not enough. I agree, being paid for trolling is not a serious job. What is true: while eTrolling does not pay to much, it helps to keep the jobless rate lower. IMO, get a better job and stop complain. It also means a longer and happier life.

Mircea

pre 15 godina

Montenegro received the green light from the EU on Thursday. Montenegro has a good chance of obtaining EU candidate status in 2010.

CG,

I think that Montenegro is advancing faster on the path to the EU since it declared independence from Serbia in 2006.

Croatia, Macedonia and Montenegro are advancing on the path to the EU, while Serbia has been left behind.

CG

pre 15 godina

Very good.Montenegrins are Serbs!I am a Montenegrin.
(CG-Crna Gora).
As for the Albanian above:
You tried to make it Albanian for 500 years with your friends the Turks and you got a bloody nose time and again.
After all Serbs/Montenegrins constitute together about 80% of the population while Albanian only 5 %.

CG

pre 15 godina

@Albani

Don`t worry about Montenegro,we are doing fine.
If I were you I would keep the ancient Montenegrin city of Scutari/Skadar in good shape.
Sooner or later it will return to its rightful owner.

Rick

pre 15 godina

Before Serbia cooperates with Crna Gora in any sector- including the energy sector- Podgorica needs to reverse their Kosovo recognition. And it's possible for Djukanovic to get out of this by simply calling for an honest referendum by the people. But until this is done, Djukanovic is truly NOT representing his people truthfully, no matter what "spin" he puts on this fake recognition. Crna Gora needs Serbia now more than ever since the Russians have become fed up with Djukanovic's games and have pulled all of their investment capital out of Montenegro. When will the Crna Gorci wake up???

CG

pre 15 godina

Very good.Montenegrins are Serbs!I am a Montenegrin.
(CG-Crna Gora).
As for the Albanian above:
You tried to make it Albanian for 500 years with your friends the Turks and you got a bloody nose time and again.
After all Serbs/Montenegrins constitute together about 80% of the population while Albanian only 5 %.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Montenegro and west macedonija is Albania from before.
(Albani, 25 April 2009 15:11)

How about Tattoine, Naboo, Galactic Empire, Klingons? They were all Albanian for 2-3 billion years in the row - but evil Serbs chased them from Naboo away.

You can come up with 10 conspiracy theories about Dardania, I will counter it with twice as more "proving", Hungarians are Sumerians, Russians are Hittites and Serbs are just the proper 50-50 mix of both - and we ate that your puny Dardania for lunch.

Please, stay serious. I don't care less, what was 500, 5000 or 50000 years ago. We are here and now and no one has less rights than the other.

You can tell me your Dardanian fairy-tales during the drink, I will tell you my Sumerian and Hittite fairy-tales, but they are just fairy-tales and must not have any weight today.

Mexicans have more rightful claims to the entire U.S. West + South and different Indian nations the rest of the country than you to CG or KiM or MK.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Croatia, Macedonia and Montenegro are advancing on the path to the EU, while Serbia has been left behind.
(Mircea, 25 April 2009 15:31)

Mircea,

The only two reasons Hungarians supported EU are:

1) To re-unite with Transylvania
2) To get a job in Germany or UK

The #1 was more successful (Romania is in EU). Regarding #2: only from this or next year there won't be employment stop ("second grade EU citizen") in Austria and Germany. UK was so far OK, but the people begun to return home.

For me neither #1 nor #2 is very important (#1 is probably bottoming my interests). I don't care less about #2 either. More interesting than EU is how the local government is doing. With that aspect everyone is underachiever. Serbia can be proud, it is closer to the top... but still underachiever. From Poland to FYROM this is the kingdom of the blind, except Slovakia and Serbia (maybe Slovenia and Romania?) now are the one-eyed. So they are the king.

Other than that, the EU wasn't really a success story here. The food, gas, transportation prices rose tremendously, the food here is definitly more expensive than in USA - but not the salaries.

With all "pro" and "contra" - EU is light years behind of USA on areas they should be ahead of it. Only Russia has potential comparable to USA, but I wish it wouldn't be led so miserably as it is. Still, a $2K - $3K salary for an engineer in Moscow is not a rarity. Find it in Hungary if you can... Yeah, of course, salesmen who work for foreign companies. But not engineers!

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Montenegro is Albania now...leave alone Serbia. No go there...you go Russia
(Albani, 25 April 2009 12:13)

Some complain that 150 Euro / month not enough. I agree, being paid for trolling is not a serious job. What is true: while eTrolling does not pay to much, it helps to keep the jobless rate lower. IMO, get a better job and stop complain. It also means a longer and happier life.

Oh those Russians !

pre 15 godina

Hello Serbia !

In June 1941 the Bulgarian Tsar Boris pressed by Hitler to join the war has made a very wise trick to escape this disgrace for the Bulgarians. One morning at the same time all the soldiers and officers of the Army were told : ”Who is ready to fight Russia step forward”. In the whole army nobody did. Then Boris just phoned Hitler : ”My army won’t fight the Russians” … I know it little helped the Greek and the Yugoslavians but yet it saved our traditional ( by that time ) relations with the Bulgarians.
What I am going to tell you is that Jukanovic is really doing quite the opposite cause unlike the Bulgarian Boris he is personally interested in further poisoning the relations with the Serbs. Same like Ushenko is undermining relations between the Russians and other Russians now called Ukrainians. Thus I believe that Tadic has better chances for understanding with the another US envoy known as Mesic. Strange as it is but any other Montenegrin leader will do almost the same things. Only under this condition their President won’t become a vice-president , their minister of defense won’t become a commander of a division et cetera. What a pity !

ВМЕСТЕ МЫ ПОБЕДИМ !

Peggy

pre 15 godina

After all Serbs/Montenegrins constitute together about 80% of the population while Albanian only 5 %.
(CG, 25 April 2009 14:32)

Then what happened? Why did your government recognize Kosovo? Also, after recognizing Kosovo you voted that Milo in again. What does that tell us about Montenegrins (who are also Serbs)?

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Ataman, are you trying to tell me that Milo somehow forged all those ballots?

Remember, there was an election and every ballot counted. So who actually voted for him. I don't care what he was or still is, he still has to win on numbers.

He obviously had the numbers. You cannot deny that.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Then what happened? Why did your government recognize Kosovo? Also, after recognizing Kosovo you voted that Milo in again. What does that tell us about Montenegrins (who are also Serbs)?
(Peggy, 26 April 2009 08:00)

Milo is an excellent bolshevik and great follower of his teacher (Milosevic), that's what happened. A good bolshevik-commie knows how to ride a bicycle: bow to the "top" and push with his feet who are underneath.

And every good bolshevik-commie just hopes, he will be at the top - to kick the rest with his feet. Only few best ones did achieve the goal and they tend to stay forever.

Just google on "Democratic Centralism" and get the idea about bolshevik tactics. "Democratic Centralism" is the alfa and omega how things in a terror organization do work, be them Russian Bolsheviks or Albanian UCK (yes, Thaci did begin as leninist and still is a leninist)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism

And running drug ring or cigarette smuggling is also OK - Stalin did rob the banks to support bolsheviks.

Mircea

pre 15 godina

Montenegro received the green light from the EU on Thursday. Montenegro has a good chance of obtaining EU candidate status in 2010.

CG,

I think that Montenegro is advancing faster on the path to the EU since it declared independence from Serbia in 2006.

Croatia, Macedonia and Montenegro are advancing on the path to the EU, while Serbia has been left behind.

nik

pre 15 godina

To "Oh those Russians"

How "smart" tsar Boris of Bulgaria was became clea 3 year late. Bulgaria did not attack the USSR when it was most vulnarable, but the USSR attacked Bulgaria when it was safe for it to do - in September 1944 and installed some odf the harshest communist regimes in Eastern Europe. It managed to di it because the"smart" Boris had decleared a "symbolic" war to the USA and the UK. The Fins proved much smarter. They decreared war on the USSR, but kept relations with the Western Allies. So in the same September, they signed a peace with the USSR, avoinding occupation.
It is very importent to chose your friends and enemies. Because with friends like you...who needs enemies?

AdamSRB

pre 15 godina

I was just thinking the same thing as Peggy!

80% of Serbs in CG and they recognise Kosovo.

I think the Albanians, Croatians, Bosniaks and Mountainegroes belong to the same group.

But than again Tadic & Co aren't any better, Serbia are pretty much going to sell Kosovo for EU.

We'll see what happens.

Mircea

pre 15 godina

Montenegro received the green light from the EU on Thursday. Montenegro has a good chance of obtaining EU candidate status in 2010.

CG,

I think that Montenegro is advancing faster on the path to the EU since it declared independence from Serbia in 2006.

Croatia, Macedonia and Montenegro are advancing on the path to the EU, while Serbia has been left behind.

CG

pre 15 godina

Very good.Montenegrins are Serbs!I am a Montenegrin.
(CG-Crna Gora).
As for the Albanian above:
You tried to make it Albanian for 500 years with your friends the Turks and you got a bloody nose time and again.
After all Serbs/Montenegrins constitute together about 80% of the population while Albanian only 5 %.

Rick

pre 15 godina

Before Serbia cooperates with Crna Gora in any sector- including the energy sector- Podgorica needs to reverse their Kosovo recognition. And it's possible for Djukanovic to get out of this by simply calling for an honest referendum by the people. But until this is done, Djukanovic is truly NOT representing his people truthfully, no matter what "spin" he puts on this fake recognition. Crna Gora needs Serbia now more than ever since the Russians have become fed up with Djukanovic's games and have pulled all of their investment capital out of Montenegro. When will the Crna Gorci wake up???

CG

pre 15 godina

@Albani

Don`t worry about Montenegro,we are doing fine.
If I were you I would keep the ancient Montenegrin city of Scutari/Skadar in good shape.
Sooner or later it will return to its rightful owner.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Montenegro and west macedonija is Albania from before.
(Albani, 25 April 2009 15:11)

How about Tattoine, Naboo, Galactic Empire, Klingons? They were all Albanian for 2-3 billion years in the row - but evil Serbs chased them from Naboo away.

You can come up with 10 conspiracy theories about Dardania, I will counter it with twice as more "proving", Hungarians are Sumerians, Russians are Hittites and Serbs are just the proper 50-50 mix of both - and we ate that your puny Dardania for lunch.

Please, stay serious. I don't care less, what was 500, 5000 or 50000 years ago. We are here and now and no one has less rights than the other.

You can tell me your Dardanian fairy-tales during the drink, I will tell you my Sumerian and Hittite fairy-tales, but they are just fairy-tales and must not have any weight today.

Mexicans have more rightful claims to the entire U.S. West + South and different Indian nations the rest of the country than you to CG or KiM or MK.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Montenegro is Albania now...leave alone Serbia. No go there...you go Russia
(Albani, 25 April 2009 12:13)

Some complain that 150 Euro / month not enough. I agree, being paid for trolling is not a serious job. What is true: while eTrolling does not pay to much, it helps to keep the jobless rate lower. IMO, get a better job and stop complain. It also means a longer and happier life.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Croatia, Macedonia and Montenegro are advancing on the path to the EU, while Serbia has been left behind.
(Mircea, 25 April 2009 15:31)

Mircea,

The only two reasons Hungarians supported EU are:

1) To re-unite with Transylvania
2) To get a job in Germany or UK

The #1 was more successful (Romania is in EU). Regarding #2: only from this or next year there won't be employment stop ("second grade EU citizen") in Austria and Germany. UK was so far OK, but the people begun to return home.

For me neither #1 nor #2 is very important (#1 is probably bottoming my interests). I don't care less about #2 either. More interesting than EU is how the local government is doing. With that aspect everyone is underachiever. Serbia can be proud, it is closer to the top... but still underachiever. From Poland to FYROM this is the kingdom of the blind, except Slovakia and Serbia (maybe Slovenia and Romania?) now are the one-eyed. So they are the king.

Other than that, the EU wasn't really a success story here. The food, gas, transportation prices rose tremendously, the food here is definitly more expensive than in USA - but not the salaries.

With all "pro" and "contra" - EU is light years behind of USA on areas they should be ahead of it. Only Russia has potential comparable to USA, but I wish it wouldn't be led so miserably as it is. Still, a $2K - $3K salary for an engineer in Moscow is not a rarity. Find it in Hungary if you can... Yeah, of course, salesmen who work for foreign companies. But not engineers!

Oh those Russians !

pre 15 godina

Hello Serbia !

In June 1941 the Bulgarian Tsar Boris pressed by Hitler to join the war has made a very wise trick to escape this disgrace for the Bulgarians. One morning at the same time all the soldiers and officers of the Army were told : ”Who is ready to fight Russia step forward”. In the whole army nobody did. Then Boris just phoned Hitler : ”My army won’t fight the Russians” … I know it little helped the Greek and the Yugoslavians but yet it saved our traditional ( by that time ) relations with the Bulgarians.
What I am going to tell you is that Jukanovic is really doing quite the opposite cause unlike the Bulgarian Boris he is personally interested in further poisoning the relations with the Serbs. Same like Ushenko is undermining relations between the Russians and other Russians now called Ukrainians. Thus I believe that Tadic has better chances for understanding with the another US envoy known as Mesic. Strange as it is but any other Montenegrin leader will do almost the same things. Only under this condition their President won’t become a vice-president , their minister of defense won’t become a commander of a division et cetera. What a pity !

ВМЕСТЕ МЫ ПОБЕДИМ !

Peggy

pre 15 godina

After all Serbs/Montenegrins constitute together about 80% of the population while Albanian only 5 %.
(CG, 25 April 2009 14:32)

Then what happened? Why did your government recognize Kosovo? Also, after recognizing Kosovo you voted that Milo in again. What does that tell us about Montenegrins (who are also Serbs)?

nik

pre 15 godina

To "Oh those Russians"

How "smart" tsar Boris of Bulgaria was became clea 3 year late. Bulgaria did not attack the USSR when it was most vulnarable, but the USSR attacked Bulgaria when it was safe for it to do - in September 1944 and installed some odf the harshest communist regimes in Eastern Europe. It managed to di it because the"smart" Boris had decleared a "symbolic" war to the USA and the UK. The Fins proved much smarter. They decreared war on the USSR, but kept relations with the Western Allies. So in the same September, they signed a peace with the USSR, avoinding occupation.
It is very importent to chose your friends and enemies. Because with friends like you...who needs enemies?

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Then what happened? Why did your government recognize Kosovo? Also, after recognizing Kosovo you voted that Milo in again. What does that tell us about Montenegrins (who are also Serbs)?
(Peggy, 26 April 2009 08:00)

Milo is an excellent bolshevik and great follower of his teacher (Milosevic), that's what happened. A good bolshevik-commie knows how to ride a bicycle: bow to the "top" and push with his feet who are underneath.

And every good bolshevik-commie just hopes, he will be at the top - to kick the rest with his feet. Only few best ones did achieve the goal and they tend to stay forever.

Just google on "Democratic Centralism" and get the idea about bolshevik tactics. "Democratic Centralism" is the alfa and omega how things in a terror organization do work, be them Russian Bolsheviks or Albanian UCK (yes, Thaci did begin as leninist and still is a leninist)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism

And running drug ring or cigarette smuggling is also OK - Stalin did rob the banks to support bolsheviks.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Ataman, are you trying to tell me that Milo somehow forged all those ballots?

Remember, there was an election and every ballot counted. So who actually voted for him. I don't care what he was or still is, he still has to win on numbers.

He obviously had the numbers. You cannot deny that.

AdamSRB

pre 15 godina

I was just thinking the same thing as Peggy!

80% of Serbs in CG and they recognise Kosovo.

I think the Albanians, Croatians, Bosniaks and Mountainegroes belong to the same group.

But than again Tadic & Co aren't any better, Serbia are pretty much going to sell Kosovo for EU.

We'll see what happens.