This is why KosovA will never be ruled by Serbia again. How can this happen? That's why Kosovars will never trust you again.
Down with the criminals and whoever protect them!!
The Albanians here don't appreciate the fact that Serbia is really doing something against criminal acts; Nothing from the Albanian side, though - nothing on Gorazdevac massacre, 2004 rampage, return of 200000 ethnically cleansed Serbs... Kosovo is the only place in Europe where people live in enclaves under international scrutiny. It is the only place with a terrorist leadership (Thaci, Ceku, Haradinaj). Kosovo as it is today should be exposed to international sanctions for the violation of human rights of Serbs, for the criminal history of its leaders, for organ trafficking, and for the distruction of the Christian Orthodox heritage ...
Man stone em to death.. and then the rest of them, just send em bk to belgrade.. Kosovo doesn,t have to put up with this.. send em all bk to their own country in Serbia...
This is no justice. How can 4 policemen kill 48 people, place them in a truck, send them to mass graves in Serbia, all by their lonesome?
As "pss" said, this ruling was a sick deliberate ploy and nothing else.
These people should be tried where the act took place, not Belgrade.
it's a terrible miscarriage of justice of course, which is typical of serbia's "justice system" pardon the expression.
the serbian govt has not gone out of their way to prosecute such cases; just the reverse. they have done everything to obscure and destroy evidence, to shelter and protect war criminals (don't get me started!!), to deny justice to many thousands of victims of their forces from the milosevic era. just because slobo is dead doesn't suddenly provide innocence for all of the crimes committed in his heyday.
i do agree that it is wrong to blame an entire nation, an entire people, for specific crimes even if committed in that nation's name. BUT, that nation must turn away from those crimes and criminals, open up honestly about the past, aggressively pursue "their" war criminals (1,000s), investigate and open up "alleged" mass graves in their territories (even if it isn't good PR in the short run), honestly ask for forgiveness from the families of the victims, work towards gradual reconciliation...
the present bldg regime pursues none of these aims, never mind all of our "nice" nationalist posters...
until they decide that they MUST change, not just for the good of the world, not just because it is the right thing to do, but also because it is the ONLY hope for their people and future generations, then we cannot progress in the balkans.
i am glad that there have been a few guilty verdicts, but it is a drop in the bucket, and has taken ten years! wake up!
You can not throw down what the peoples did crimes that they have done…you can not punish only 2-3 peoples but you have to punish whole country like in this case Serbia , because if we don’t do that lot of crimes will be done and they will pass unnoticed..
Peace for all peace lovers ….
Xia
(Xia, 23 April 2009 17:46)
So what do you suggest Xia?
Another 78 days of relentless bombing and more murders of innocent people in Serbia?
Here you are saying "peace to all" and advocating some sort of punishment for the entire country.
When Albanians start arrensting and convicting their own criminals (and yes you have them as well), then and only then do you have a moral leg to stand on and preach about Serbia's justice administered to their criminals.
Don't preach something you are not prepared to do yourself. It only makes you more of a hypocrit.
deceiver I don't know why anybody would want to murder civilians. At least it is beyond my experience, but I can guess. Occasionally there are 'logical' reasons - to cleanse an area, to allegedly deter others from resisting. And there are less logical reasons - the sickness of those that simply want to kill and pillage. Sadly these are the men most likely to appear in wars and fight. That is the time when standards are lowest and the general population will accept anybody to fight for them.
However, as adjusted people (I hope I'm speaking for everybody here) we simply MUST NOT defend these people or allow their crimes to go unpunished. Those people who comitted war crimes were / are either sick or misled. I believe the first step is to realise that a war crime is the same no matter who comitts it. After that its clear that its as important to root out the war criminals of your own community as well as that of your 'enemy'.
What about the responsiblity a society (ethnic group, however you want to call it) has to those men it called in to defend them? That responsibility was broken once these men killed civilians.
First of all in Serbia and countries of the region sentences are ALWAYS light. Whether that is murder for profit, through hatred, or husband killing his family, or a drunk killing 4 people with his car.
Now I didn't follow this case, but I truly hope that those that were declared not guilty were truly not guilty. This was a horrendous crime and all perpetrators deserved severe punishment.
As for posts calling for Kosovo to be cleansed of all Serbs or that all Serbs should be punished for the crimes of a few. Its just plain WRONG. You can't pat those of peace on the back one moment and tell them they must be punished for something they did not do the next. No, what should happen is that ALL those that carried out crimes should be rounded up and punished accordingly. And those that don't like this will have to just suck it down.
In the name of all Serbs who did nothing criminal / wrong I reject any call for us all to be punished for the crimes of a very small minority. And of course I don't think any other people should be collectively punished either.
In all the wars that happen, I don't understand what would be the point of killing a few civilians? Why kill 48 civilians?
I simply don't get it. In fact, when you kill civilians you only make your enemy (the UCK in this case) fight even harder. Especially in Kosovo's case where the Albanian population is the fastest growing in Europe and among the highest in the world. You kill a few, and still hundreds of Albanian babies will be born and proudly take their place. It will never end.
However, the important thing is that these 48 civilians and thousands of others like them didn't die for nothing, didn't die in vain.
They died to let independent and free Kosovo be born. And they achieved that. We achieved that.
Notice many things here. Higher officials were acquitted, therefore trying to absolve the govt of a conspiracy. This will appear as rogue police operating outside the chain of command. It is meant to appear that Serbia is set on punishing the true perpetrators of the crime that were in "violation" of directions of their superiors. This coordinated with the beginning of the ICJ proceedings.
Anyone think this was a true trial. I am sure the ones convicted have been told they will be freed upon appeal once the ICJ has completed its process.
I also do not understand the European attitude in murder trials. In US they would have been given separate sentences for each victim.
By you saying Serbs are happy with those killings then you would like that to happen to Serb civilians. You need to find something bad to say about Serbs.
Ratko wrote "These berisha's have killed a lot of innocent Serbs."
Can you please explain to all of us how could a child kill and if they were the killers then they would at least few of them be still alive and not dead so please stop with this propaganda.
At least Serbia is doing something about the crimes commited agains albanians but what are albanians in Kosovo doing about the daily attack agains serbs? NOTHING! How many albanians have been convicted for crimes agains serbs? NONE! And you dare to point a finger. You have no shame!
You can not throw down what the peoples did crimes that they have done…you can not punish only 2-3 peoples but you have to punish whole country like in this case Serbia , because if we don’t do that lot of crimes will be done and they will pass unnoticed..
Peace for all peace lovers ….
Xia
@bekim
" If there was any justice in this world there shouldn't be any Serbs in Kosova"
Interesting. The Serbs would get accused of 'ethnic cleansing'. But, you'd have us believe that, done the *right* way, it is 'justice'.
[For fans of the movie 'Some Like it Hot']: Press release from the ‘Friends of Albanian Opera’: “Today we observe a minutes silence for those witnesses of the Haradinaj trial who cannot be here er.. on account of being rubbed out”
So you mean that those children and women who were killed in the pizzeria with granedes and bullets killed serb civilians before ?
On the other hand this verdict shows that Kosovo will never be Serbia again. It's a joke getting 20 years for killing 48 people inkl children and women.
Ratko,
You talk as if you know all detaills about the Berisha family. Maybe you know even about their bodies whereabouts? So the 7-year old member of the Berisha family killed Serbs too, as thus, he deserved to die together with the women and the elderly?
So, based on your pressumption then there is every right to go after these criminals' families? After all they officially are proclaimed guilty unlike the Berisha family.
I appreciate how Serbia deals with those charged with war crimes; those found guilty will be punished. This is how civilized countries deal with crimes. I only wish others would do the same. In Kosovo, for instance, if an Albanian is suspected of a crime against Serbs, there is immediate outrage and no justice occurs; if anything, the Albanians turn the charge around and blame Serbs for the killing of Serbs. For instance, there was the Albanian criminal whom bombed a bus and was released by the supposed EU law and order mission. How could someone who killed others be released for that crime and nobody else get charged for the murder of Serbs? Serbia is willing to deal with its past, regardless of what others say. The question for the rest of the world is, will the Kosovo Albanians, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, or NATO ever deal with their pasts? I doubt it.
These berisha's have killed a lot of innocent Serbs.
If they were still alive today, an "eulex" trial would rule that there was no evidence to convince them, and they would be walking freely with blood on their hands.
It's good to see Serbia convicting war criminals internally. This is a horrible crime and those responsible need to be served justice as has been done.
It is also time to see justice for crimes committed by the Albanians and then we can start down the path of reconciliation, leaving this dark part of history to the past.
This says enough of Serb idea of justice and what kind of rights Albanians would have in Serbia. If there was any justice in this world there shouldn't be any Serbs in Kosova
I remember a time when there were many that denied this report that the family was killed. And many were asking for evidence. And many said that the story was fabricated just to win NATO and Western support.
I guess ppl from the balkans should just hold their tongues prior to jumping to a conclusion.
Now this is only one case how many more do you think are out there? And how many ppl are living normal lives when they've taken so much from so many. WE should be looking for others and not just quit with one case.
There are many more graves and I believe there 2000 souls still out there missing. May justice prevail and may all missing and dead rest in peace.
I hope this is a lesson to all. That war, killing, rape, and racism are not the answer but the downfall of any nation.
At least 20 people were involved in this unbelievable crime, massacre. They were logistically supported by the highest levels in the Government (transportation of bodies to the mass graves in the compound of Serbian Special forces in Batajnica).
This verdict is a JOKE, a bad one. A big shame for Serbia.
With this verdict, you have lost that little bit of trust of Albanians (victims) in your "trials".
You know may close any case against war crimes in Kosovo. It is just not worth it.
extenuating circumstances, since they were Albanians. You can not condemn this act and tell Kosovo is Serbia. The spirit that led to those crimes is admired in Serbia. I suppose 80% of Serbs think it was right to act that kind.
extenuating circumstances, since they were Albanians. You can not condemn this act and tell Kosovo is Serbia. The spirit that led to those crimes is admired in Serbia. I suppose 80% of Serbs think it was right to act that kind.
Ratko,
You talk as if you know all detaills about the Berisha family. Maybe you know even about their bodies whereabouts? So the 7-year old member of the Berisha family killed Serbs too, as thus, he deserved to die together with the women and the elderly?
So, based on your pressumption then there is every right to go after these criminals' families? After all they officially are proclaimed guilty unlike the Berisha family.
At least 20 people were involved in this unbelievable crime, massacre. They were logistically supported by the highest levels in the Government (transportation of bodies to the mass graves in the compound of Serbian Special forces in Batajnica).
This verdict is a JOKE, a bad one. A big shame for Serbia.
With this verdict, you have lost that little bit of trust of Albanians (victims) in your "trials".
You know may close any case against war crimes in Kosovo. It is just not worth it.
So you mean that those children and women who were killed in the pizzeria with granedes and bullets killed serb civilians before ?
On the other hand this verdict shows that Kosovo will never be Serbia again. It's a joke getting 20 years for killing 48 people inkl children and women.
I remember a time when there were many that denied this report that the family was killed. And many were asking for evidence. And many said that the story was fabricated just to win NATO and Western support.
I guess ppl from the balkans should just hold their tongues prior to jumping to a conclusion.
Now this is only one case how many more do you think are out there? And how many ppl are living normal lives when they've taken so much from so many. WE should be looking for others and not just quit with one case.
There are many more graves and I believe there 2000 souls still out there missing. May justice prevail and may all missing and dead rest in peace.
I hope this is a lesson to all. That war, killing, rape, and racism are not the answer but the downfall of any nation.
deceiver I don't know why anybody would want to murder civilians. At least it is beyond my experience, but I can guess. Occasionally there are 'logical' reasons - to cleanse an area, to allegedly deter others from resisting. And there are less logical reasons - the sickness of those that simply want to kill and pillage. Sadly these are the men most likely to appear in wars and fight. That is the time when standards are lowest and the general population will accept anybody to fight for them.
However, as adjusted people (I hope I'm speaking for everybody here) we simply MUST NOT defend these people or allow their crimes to go unpunished. Those people who comitted war crimes were / are either sick or misled. I believe the first step is to realise that a war crime is the same no matter who comitts it. After that its clear that its as important to root out the war criminals of your own community as well as that of your 'enemy'.
What about the responsiblity a society (ethnic group, however you want to call it) has to those men it called in to defend them? That responsibility was broken once these men killed civilians.
Ratko wrote "These berisha's have killed a lot of innocent Serbs."
Can you please explain to all of us how could a child kill and if they were the killers then they would at least few of them be still alive and not dead so please stop with this propaganda.
First of all in Serbia and countries of the region sentences are ALWAYS light. Whether that is murder for profit, through hatred, or husband killing his family, or a drunk killing 4 people with his car.
Now I didn't follow this case, but I truly hope that those that were declared not guilty were truly not guilty. This was a horrendous crime and all perpetrators deserved severe punishment.
As for posts calling for Kosovo to be cleansed of all Serbs or that all Serbs should be punished for the crimes of a few. Its just plain WRONG. You can't pat those of peace on the back one moment and tell them they must be punished for something they did not do the next. No, what should happen is that ALL those that carried out crimes should be rounded up and punished accordingly. And those that don't like this will have to just suck it down.
In the name of all Serbs who did nothing criminal / wrong I reject any call for us all to be punished for the crimes of a very small minority. And of course I don't think any other people should be collectively punished either.
This says enough of Serb idea of justice and what kind of rights Albanians would have in Serbia. If there was any justice in this world there shouldn't be any Serbs in Kosova
It's good to see Serbia convicting war criminals internally. This is a horrible crime and those responsible need to be served justice as has been done.
It is also time to see justice for crimes committed by the Albanians and then we can start down the path of reconciliation, leaving this dark part of history to the past.
You can not throw down what the peoples did crimes that they have done…you can not punish only 2-3 peoples but you have to punish whole country like in this case Serbia , because if we don’t do that lot of crimes will be done and they will pass unnoticed..
Peace for all peace lovers ….
Xia
At least Serbia is doing something about the crimes commited agains albanians but what are albanians in Kosovo doing about the daily attack agains serbs? NOTHING! How many albanians have been convicted for crimes agains serbs? NONE! And you dare to point a finger. You have no shame!
These berisha's have killed a lot of innocent Serbs.
If they were still alive today, an "eulex" trial would rule that there was no evidence to convince them, and they would be walking freely with blood on their hands.
I appreciate how Serbia deals with those charged with war crimes; those found guilty will be punished. This is how civilized countries deal with crimes. I only wish others would do the same. In Kosovo, for instance, if an Albanian is suspected of a crime against Serbs, there is immediate outrage and no justice occurs; if anything, the Albanians turn the charge around and blame Serbs for the killing of Serbs. For instance, there was the Albanian criminal whom bombed a bus and was released by the supposed EU law and order mission. How could someone who killed others be released for that crime and nobody else get charged for the murder of Serbs? Serbia is willing to deal with its past, regardless of what others say. The question for the rest of the world is, will the Kosovo Albanians, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, or NATO ever deal with their pasts? I doubt it.
By you saying Serbs are happy with those killings then you would like that to happen to Serb civilians. You need to find something bad to say about Serbs.
@bekim
" If there was any justice in this world there shouldn't be any Serbs in Kosova"
Interesting. The Serbs would get accused of 'ethnic cleansing'. But, you'd have us believe that, done the *right* way, it is 'justice'.
[For fans of the movie 'Some Like it Hot']: Press release from the ‘Friends of Albanian Opera’: “Today we observe a minutes silence for those witnesses of the Haradinaj trial who cannot be here er.. on account of being rubbed out”
In all the wars that happen, I don't understand what would be the point of killing a few civilians? Why kill 48 civilians?
I simply don't get it. In fact, when you kill civilians you only make your enemy (the UCK in this case) fight even harder. Especially in Kosovo's case where the Albanian population is the fastest growing in Europe and among the highest in the world. You kill a few, and still hundreds of Albanian babies will be born and proudly take their place. It will never end.
However, the important thing is that these 48 civilians and thousands of others like them didn't die for nothing, didn't die in vain.
They died to let independent and free Kosovo be born. And they achieved that. We achieved that.
Notice many things here. Higher officials were acquitted, therefore trying to absolve the govt of a conspiracy. This will appear as rogue police operating outside the chain of command. It is meant to appear that Serbia is set on punishing the true perpetrators of the crime that were in "violation" of directions of their superiors. This coordinated with the beginning of the ICJ proceedings.
Anyone think this was a true trial. I am sure the ones convicted have been told they will be freed upon appeal once the ICJ has completed its process.
I also do not understand the European attitude in murder trials. In US they would have been given separate sentences for each victim.
it's a terrible miscarriage of justice of course, which is typical of serbia's "justice system" pardon the expression.
the serbian govt has not gone out of their way to prosecute such cases; just the reverse. they have done everything to obscure and destroy evidence, to shelter and protect war criminals (don't get me started!!), to deny justice to many thousands of victims of their forces from the milosevic era. just because slobo is dead doesn't suddenly provide innocence for all of the crimes committed in his heyday.
i do agree that it is wrong to blame an entire nation, an entire people, for specific crimes even if committed in that nation's name. BUT, that nation must turn away from those crimes and criminals, open up honestly about the past, aggressively pursue "their" war criminals (1,000s), investigate and open up "alleged" mass graves in their territories (even if it isn't good PR in the short run), honestly ask for forgiveness from the families of the victims, work towards gradual reconciliation...
the present bldg regime pursues none of these aims, never mind all of our "nice" nationalist posters...
until they decide that they MUST change, not just for the good of the world, not just because it is the right thing to do, but also because it is the ONLY hope for their people and future generations, then we cannot progress in the balkans.
i am glad that there have been a few guilty verdicts, but it is a drop in the bucket, and has taken ten years! wake up!
This is no justice. How can 4 policemen kill 48 people, place them in a truck, send them to mass graves in Serbia, all by their lonesome?
As "pss" said, this ruling was a sick deliberate ploy and nothing else.
These people should be tried where the act took place, not Belgrade.
You can not throw down what the peoples did crimes that they have done…you can not punish only 2-3 peoples but you have to punish whole country like in this case Serbia , because if we don’t do that lot of crimes will be done and they will pass unnoticed..
Peace for all peace lovers ….
Xia
(Xia, 23 April 2009 17:46)
So what do you suggest Xia?
Another 78 days of relentless bombing and more murders of innocent people in Serbia?
Here you are saying "peace to all" and advocating some sort of punishment for the entire country.
When Albanians start arrensting and convicting their own criminals (and yes you have them as well), then and only then do you have a moral leg to stand on and preach about Serbia's justice administered to their criminals.
Don't preach something you are not prepared to do yourself. It only makes you more of a hypocrit.
Man stone em to death.. and then the rest of them, just send em bk to belgrade.. Kosovo doesn,t have to put up with this.. send em all bk to their own country in Serbia...
The Albanians here don't appreciate the fact that Serbia is really doing something against criminal acts; Nothing from the Albanian side, though - nothing on Gorazdevac massacre, 2004 rampage, return of 200000 ethnically cleansed Serbs... Kosovo is the only place in Europe where people live in enclaves under international scrutiny. It is the only place with a terrorist leadership (Thaci, Ceku, Haradinaj). Kosovo as it is today should be exposed to international sanctions for the violation of human rights of Serbs, for the criminal history of its leaders, for organ trafficking, and for the distruction of the Christian Orthodox heritage ...
This is why KosovA will never be ruled by Serbia again. How can this happen? That's why Kosovars will never trust you again.
Down with the criminals and whoever protect them!!
These berisha's have killed a lot of innocent Serbs.
If they were still alive today, an "eulex" trial would rule that there was no evidence to convince them, and they would be walking freely with blood on their hands.
This says enough of Serb idea of justice and what kind of rights Albanians would have in Serbia. If there was any justice in this world there shouldn't be any Serbs in Kosova
At least Serbia is doing something about the crimes commited agains albanians but what are albanians in Kosovo doing about the daily attack agains serbs? NOTHING! How many albanians have been convicted for crimes agains serbs? NONE! And you dare to point a finger. You have no shame!
I appreciate how Serbia deals with those charged with war crimes; those found guilty will be punished. This is how civilized countries deal with crimes. I only wish others would do the same. In Kosovo, for instance, if an Albanian is suspected of a crime against Serbs, there is immediate outrage and no justice occurs; if anything, the Albanians turn the charge around and blame Serbs for the killing of Serbs. For instance, there was the Albanian criminal whom bombed a bus and was released by the supposed EU law and order mission. How could someone who killed others be released for that crime and nobody else get charged for the murder of Serbs? Serbia is willing to deal with its past, regardless of what others say. The question for the rest of the world is, will the Kosovo Albanians, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, or NATO ever deal with their pasts? I doubt it.
@bekim
" If there was any justice in this world there shouldn't be any Serbs in Kosova"
Interesting. The Serbs would get accused of 'ethnic cleansing'. But, you'd have us believe that, done the *right* way, it is 'justice'.
[For fans of the movie 'Some Like it Hot']: Press release from the ‘Friends of Albanian Opera’: “Today we observe a minutes silence for those witnesses of the Haradinaj trial who cannot be here er.. on account of being rubbed out”
At least 20 people were involved in this unbelievable crime, massacre. They were logistically supported by the highest levels in the Government (transportation of bodies to the mass graves in the compound of Serbian Special forces in Batajnica).
This verdict is a JOKE, a bad one. A big shame for Serbia.
With this verdict, you have lost that little bit of trust of Albanians (victims) in your "trials".
You know may close any case against war crimes in Kosovo. It is just not worth it.
Man stone em to death.. and then the rest of them, just send em bk to belgrade.. Kosovo doesn,t have to put up with this.. send em all bk to their own country in Serbia...
extenuating circumstances, since they were Albanians. You can not condemn this act and tell Kosovo is Serbia. The spirit that led to those crimes is admired in Serbia. I suppose 80% of Serbs think it was right to act that kind.
It's good to see Serbia convicting war criminals internally. This is a horrible crime and those responsible need to be served justice as has been done.
It is also time to see justice for crimes committed by the Albanians and then we can start down the path of reconciliation, leaving this dark part of history to the past.
I remember a time when there were many that denied this report that the family was killed. And many were asking for evidence. And many said that the story was fabricated just to win NATO and Western support.
I guess ppl from the balkans should just hold their tongues prior to jumping to a conclusion.
Now this is only one case how many more do you think are out there? And how many ppl are living normal lives when they've taken so much from so many. WE should be looking for others and not just quit with one case.
There are many more graves and I believe there 2000 souls still out there missing. May justice prevail and may all missing and dead rest in peace.
I hope this is a lesson to all. That war, killing, rape, and racism are not the answer but the downfall of any nation.
You can not throw down what the peoples did crimes that they have done…you can not punish only 2-3 peoples but you have to punish whole country like in this case Serbia , because if we don’t do that lot of crimes will be done and they will pass unnoticed..
Peace for all peace lovers ….
Xia
By you saying Serbs are happy with those killings then you would like that to happen to Serb civilians. You need to find something bad to say about Serbs.
In all the wars that happen, I don't understand what would be the point of killing a few civilians? Why kill 48 civilians?
I simply don't get it. In fact, when you kill civilians you only make your enemy (the UCK in this case) fight even harder. Especially in Kosovo's case where the Albanian population is the fastest growing in Europe and among the highest in the world. You kill a few, and still hundreds of Albanian babies will be born and proudly take their place. It will never end.
However, the important thing is that these 48 civilians and thousands of others like them didn't die for nothing, didn't die in vain.
They died to let independent and free Kosovo be born. And they achieved that. We achieved that.
You can not throw down what the peoples did crimes that they have done…you can not punish only 2-3 peoples but you have to punish whole country like in this case Serbia , because if we don’t do that lot of crimes will be done and they will pass unnoticed..
Peace for all peace lovers ….
Xia
(Xia, 23 April 2009 17:46)
So what do you suggest Xia?
Another 78 days of relentless bombing and more murders of innocent people in Serbia?
Here you are saying "peace to all" and advocating some sort of punishment for the entire country.
When Albanians start arrensting and convicting their own criminals (and yes you have them as well), then and only then do you have a moral leg to stand on and preach about Serbia's justice administered to their criminals.
Don't preach something you are not prepared to do yourself. It only makes you more of a hypocrit.
Notice many things here. Higher officials were acquitted, therefore trying to absolve the govt of a conspiracy. This will appear as rogue police operating outside the chain of command. It is meant to appear that Serbia is set on punishing the true perpetrators of the crime that were in "violation" of directions of their superiors. This coordinated with the beginning of the ICJ proceedings.
Anyone think this was a true trial. I am sure the ones convicted have been told they will be freed upon appeal once the ICJ has completed its process.
I also do not understand the European attitude in murder trials. In US they would have been given separate sentences for each victim.
So you mean that those children and women who were killed in the pizzeria with granedes and bullets killed serb civilians before ?
On the other hand this verdict shows that Kosovo will never be Serbia again. It's a joke getting 20 years for killing 48 people inkl children and women.
Ratko wrote "These berisha's have killed a lot of innocent Serbs."
Can you please explain to all of us how could a child kill and if they were the killers then they would at least few of them be still alive and not dead so please stop with this propaganda.
First of all in Serbia and countries of the region sentences are ALWAYS light. Whether that is murder for profit, through hatred, or husband killing his family, or a drunk killing 4 people with his car.
Now I didn't follow this case, but I truly hope that those that were declared not guilty were truly not guilty. This was a horrendous crime and all perpetrators deserved severe punishment.
As for posts calling for Kosovo to be cleansed of all Serbs or that all Serbs should be punished for the crimes of a few. Its just plain WRONG. You can't pat those of peace on the back one moment and tell them they must be punished for something they did not do the next. No, what should happen is that ALL those that carried out crimes should be rounded up and punished accordingly. And those that don't like this will have to just suck it down.
In the name of all Serbs who did nothing criminal / wrong I reject any call for us all to be punished for the crimes of a very small minority. And of course I don't think any other people should be collectively punished either.
it's a terrible miscarriage of justice of course, which is typical of serbia's "justice system" pardon the expression.
the serbian govt has not gone out of their way to prosecute such cases; just the reverse. they have done everything to obscure and destroy evidence, to shelter and protect war criminals (don't get me started!!), to deny justice to many thousands of victims of their forces from the milosevic era. just because slobo is dead doesn't suddenly provide innocence for all of the crimes committed in his heyday.
i do agree that it is wrong to blame an entire nation, an entire people, for specific crimes even if committed in that nation's name. BUT, that nation must turn away from those crimes and criminals, open up honestly about the past, aggressively pursue "their" war criminals (1,000s), investigate and open up "alleged" mass graves in their territories (even if it isn't good PR in the short run), honestly ask for forgiveness from the families of the victims, work towards gradual reconciliation...
the present bldg regime pursues none of these aims, never mind all of our "nice" nationalist posters...
until they decide that they MUST change, not just for the good of the world, not just because it is the right thing to do, but also because it is the ONLY hope for their people and future generations, then we cannot progress in the balkans.
i am glad that there have been a few guilty verdicts, but it is a drop in the bucket, and has taken ten years! wake up!
Ratko,
You talk as if you know all detaills about the Berisha family. Maybe you know even about their bodies whereabouts? So the 7-year old member of the Berisha family killed Serbs too, as thus, he deserved to die together with the women and the elderly?
So, based on your pressumption then there is every right to go after these criminals' families? After all they officially are proclaimed guilty unlike the Berisha family.
The Albanians here don't appreciate the fact that Serbia is really doing something against criminal acts; Nothing from the Albanian side, though - nothing on Gorazdevac massacre, 2004 rampage, return of 200000 ethnically cleansed Serbs... Kosovo is the only place in Europe where people live in enclaves under international scrutiny. It is the only place with a terrorist leadership (Thaci, Ceku, Haradinaj). Kosovo as it is today should be exposed to international sanctions for the violation of human rights of Serbs, for the criminal history of its leaders, for organ trafficking, and for the distruction of the Christian Orthodox heritage ...
This is no justice. How can 4 policemen kill 48 people, place them in a truck, send them to mass graves in Serbia, all by their lonesome?
As "pss" said, this ruling was a sick deliberate ploy and nothing else.
These people should be tried where the act took place, not Belgrade.
This is why KosovA will never be ruled by Serbia again. How can this happen? That's why Kosovars will never trust you again.
Down with the criminals and whoever protect them!!
deceiver I don't know why anybody would want to murder civilians. At least it is beyond my experience, but I can guess. Occasionally there are 'logical' reasons - to cleanse an area, to allegedly deter others from resisting. And there are less logical reasons - the sickness of those that simply want to kill and pillage. Sadly these are the men most likely to appear in wars and fight. That is the time when standards are lowest and the general population will accept anybody to fight for them.
However, as adjusted people (I hope I'm speaking for everybody here) we simply MUST NOT defend these people or allow their crimes to go unpunished. Those people who comitted war crimes were / are either sick or misled. I believe the first step is to realise that a war crime is the same no matter who comitts it. After that its clear that its as important to root out the war criminals of your own community as well as that of your 'enemy'.
What about the responsiblity a society (ethnic group, however you want to call it) has to those men it called in to defend them? That responsibility was broken once these men killed civilians.
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