"1.The whole world is trying to develop ways to reduce the greenhouse gases/CO2 emmisions and save the environment by using/finding alternative ways to produce power. I predict that the demand for coal is going to drastically drop in the years to come. I guess that's too bad for the serbs that want to keep the north to use the coal.
2. And even if the serbs wanted to strike a deal with US and EU the latter probably would not agree.
(Kanadezi, 23 April 2009 05:12)"
Alternative ways like carbon capture and storage technology for coal fired power stations?
No,he is not overqualified,not even as qualified as me,because then,he would have done much more than 3pc!;)))!
i tell you,only my family network and without any tv or newspaper i "do" better than veton's influence in kosovo!
But ,of course,you can still invite him to fool yourselves as science po paris did!but not to represent kosovo positions!
But i do agree ,so much investissments in that man ,from you and other offices, for a total fiasco is hard to accept for all of you !Try again to rescusite him!and good luck in this project;)) (en plus,this guy veton,is a misogyn as never seen in my life)
First of all,lets be clear:
there is no such thing as a "moderate" Albanian politician.
A "moderate" Albanian politician would be someone who realizes that Kosovo will never become independent,that he must also allow the 200 000 Serbs who have been chased away from their homes to return and that he should highlight the crimes of his own people (for example:WW2,the intolerance,the killings of Serbs after 1999 etc.)
Surroi in my view is a "moderate" nationalist while the others can be considered ultranationalists.
@Radoslav
What you suggested would mean succumbing to terrorism and Albanian nationalism and giving away all the Serbian territory south of the Ibar.
Now I understand you,you want to finish this problem by saying "Oh lord,lets give them what they want,I`m tired of it!"
But this is exactly the wrong attidude,if they would stage an uprising in Presevo I am sure some of us would say:"Damn Presevo,give them that town it is not worth it etc..."
NO,NO and again NO we must not give up a square inch of Serbian territory because it would only embolden our enemies to continue with their aggressions and some years later we would end in Belgrade and its surroundings...
Mark my words,with the political power changes in the world we will get our opportunity to solve the Kosovo problem once and for all to our own terms!
Suroi should have thought about this before the UDI, during the talks that were held for almost two years; at that time, however, protected by Ahtissari,the Albanian side was refusing to discuss anything else except independence; sorry, Suroi, nothing to talk about now except your illegal declaration of independence ...
Radoslav said:
"Their primary goal is access to the coal reserves, and yeah, I do know there are lot's of other minerals in the south like lead, zinc, etc,etc but no.1 is coal.
........
Hopefully Belgrade will come to some agreement with the EU and US about mining rights in the north with the tax revenue going to Belgrade and jobs to the Serbs."
1.The whole world is trying to develop ways to reduce the greenhouse gases/CO2 emmisions and save the environment by using/finding alternative ways to produce power. I predict that the demand for coal is going to drastically drop in the years to come. I guess that's too bad for the serbs that want to keep the north to use the coal.
2. And even if the serbs wanted to strike a deal with US and EU the latter probably would not agree.
You do not normalize relations with thieves. You do not normalize relations while 200,000 Serbs are kept from their homes and so much Serbian property is stolen.
You only lose in deals with thieves - they take and take and get what they want and Serbs get cheated again.
Genti - What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If Albanians are allowed self determination then so are the Serbs. If Albanians can violate borders for self determination, then so can the Serbs.
Your comrade summed it up nicely "It's only normal that Serbs should accept they can not drive us out of our homes, we will never accept Serb occupation. Self determination is our will, our basic right and not for negotiotion."
Just replace the word Serb with Albanian and you see how the tables are turned.
If Serbia has no moral or legitimate claim over Kosovo then you likewise have no claim over northern Kosovo - it's a fact, legally and on the ground. I'll quite happily separate it into two bits but your masters won't be too happy about it.
Their primary goal is access to the coal reserves, and yeah, I do know there are lot's of other minerals in the south like lead, zinc, etc,etc but no.1 is coal.
how do you plan to convince the world that the north belongs to the Albanians when it's populated by Serbs? You can't take it by force so there's no way you'll gain control over it.
Hopefully Belgrade will come to some agreement with the EU and US about mining rights in the north with the tax revenue going to Belgrade and jobs to the Serbs.
you'll have to try to find your own investors and markets for the rest of the minerals, but with energy in such short supply, I'm sure they'll be a very healthy market for coal for many years to come.
Lili,
Unfortunately, Surroi is overqualified for you.
(Boza, 22 April 2009 19:41)
Thanks in advance for not teasing / hitting on the ladies next time, even if you strongly disagree with them.
This is very asymmetric because they are allowed do what we may not - but that's the life.
Apropos, ladies and Surroi and asymmetry. I am (stil) preferring Vlora Çitaku over anyone, including Surroi, Medvedjev, Tadic or Obama, she is damn cute. But I am 100% sure this feeling is asymmetric :(
Suroi is a very wise man in my opinion, and he must have won in Kosovo. But I would disagree with those who protray Thaci as an extremist. I am yet to see any extremist move, or speech or postition from Thaci, at least since he has been the prime minister.
What the serbian side here overlooks, is the fact that NO, i repeat, NO Kosovo politician will ever negotiate about the status.
But Suroi is right, both sides should work to slow the tension down, and maybe focus on things they can work on right now, such as trade and business.
What really bugs me is how unwise are the moves from Serbia towards the situation in Kosovo. By contributing to Kosovo's poverty Serbia most of all will hurt Kosovo Serbs. Albanians are now positioned a little better to surpass these bad times.
Poverty means more radicalism and intolerance, and that is not something that Serbs in Kosovo can sustain for a long time.
"Moderate? You think he wants anything short of independence?"(Alban, 22 April 2009 17:57)
We're talking about day-to-day issues that don't involve something as monumentally meaningless as status. We're talking about forming low-level cooperation and at least an understanding that quality of life needs to be addressed. At least Surroi seems to have the maturity and the foresight to understand this, unlike Thaci who increasingly comes across as an extra in a Borat movie.
Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis. I do indeed hope some sort of tacit modus vivendi is worked out by both sides in the months ahead. (Mike, 22 April 2009 16:38)
Absolutely agree.
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Veton is nothing in the kosovo political paysage ,with his less than 3per cent of voters!
(lili, 22 April 2009 16:43)
Pretty normal thing. Hungary's reasonable conservatives with some sign of backbone (MDF) or Russia's people who did not succumb to either nationalism or communism or kissing the behind of the West are also under 3%. It does merely mean, the political culture in these countries is pretty immature. Will take time and may one day these Veton Surroi-s play a stronger role. Until that happen, we will see tears, sweat and mass migration westwards.
We can say, that the entire school-class has to repeat the year because everyone got the worst note, but from all students who have to repeat the year, Slovenia, Slovakia and the eastern part of Germany were the best. If that can make them happy.
so don't fool yourself with veton's declaration!ignore than!
lili
Oh no! I had my hopes up and now your destroy the little hope I had for friendly relations. You don't actually think his proposal would even be considered in Belgrade? Most albanians know what needs to be done for normal relations and as long as America is puting food on your table that won't be done.
Well,Veton's message is clear. EU needs to pressure Serbia to allow Kosovo to function as a normal state (meaning to more power to control the north) and more pressure to Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
But, as World Index Media ranks Serbia way behind Kosovo, it's a proof that this article is distorted again.
It's only normal that Serbs should accept they can not drive us out of our homes, we will never accept Serb occupation. Self determination is our will, our basic right and not for negotiotion.
"Can't say I agree with everything Surroi says, but he's certainly a moderate that equal moderates in Belgrade can work with. Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis."
Moderate? You think he wants anything short of independence? Even Tadic knows that there's no way in hell Serbia can even begin to negotiate with EU without solving Kosova.
Can't say I agree with everything Surroi says, but he's certainly a moderate that equal moderates in Belgrade can work with. Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis.
I do indeed hope some sort of tacit modus vivendi is worked out by both sides in the months ahead.
it is very surprising that science po and some networks still consider Veton as a master piece in kosova:our people in the last election clearly,indeed very strongfully told you that Veton is nothing in the kosovo political paysage ,with his less than 3per cent of voters!So ,clearly he represents only himself,and believe less than my mother who at least can gather her family around her,what veton can not do(3pc is a family network in kosova!)
so don't fool yourself with veton's declaration!ignore than!
so don't fool yourself with veton's declaration!ignore than!
lili
Oh no! I had my hopes up and now your destroy the little hope I had for friendly relations. You don't actually think his proposal would even be considered in Belgrade? Most albanians know what needs to be done for normal relations and as long as America is puting food on your table that won't be done.
"Can't say I agree with everything Surroi says, but he's certainly a moderate that equal moderates in Belgrade can work with. Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis."
Moderate? You think he wants anything short of independence? Even Tadic knows that there's no way in hell Serbia can even begin to negotiate with EU without solving Kosova.
"Moderate? You think he wants anything short of independence?"(Alban, 22 April 2009 17:57)
We're talking about day-to-day issues that don't involve something as monumentally meaningless as status. We're talking about forming low-level cooperation and at least an understanding that quality of life needs to be addressed. At least Surroi seems to have the maturity and the foresight to understand this, unlike Thaci who increasingly comes across as an extra in a Borat movie.
You do not normalize relations with thieves. You do not normalize relations while 200,000 Serbs are kept from their homes and so much Serbian property is stolen.
You only lose in deals with thieves - they take and take and get what they want and Serbs get cheated again.
Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis. I do indeed hope some sort of tacit modus vivendi is worked out by both sides in the months ahead. (Mike, 22 April 2009 16:38)
Absolutely agree.
--------------
Veton is nothing in the kosovo political paysage ,with his less than 3per cent of voters!
(lili, 22 April 2009 16:43)
Pretty normal thing. Hungary's reasonable conservatives with some sign of backbone (MDF) or Russia's people who did not succumb to either nationalism or communism or kissing the behind of the West are also under 3%. It does merely mean, the political culture in these countries is pretty immature. Will take time and may one day these Veton Surroi-s play a stronger role. Until that happen, we will see tears, sweat and mass migration westwards.
We can say, that the entire school-class has to repeat the year because everyone got the worst note, but from all students who have to repeat the year, Slovenia, Slovakia and the eastern part of Germany were the best. If that can make them happy.
Genti - What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If Albanians are allowed self determination then so are the Serbs. If Albanians can violate borders for self determination, then so can the Serbs.
Your comrade summed it up nicely "It's only normal that Serbs should accept they can not drive us out of our homes, we will never accept Serb occupation. Self determination is our will, our basic right and not for negotiotion."
Just replace the word Serb with Albanian and you see how the tables are turned.
If Serbia has no moral or legitimate claim over Kosovo then you likewise have no claim over northern Kosovo - it's a fact, legally and on the ground. I'll quite happily separate it into two bits but your masters won't be too happy about it.
Their primary goal is access to the coal reserves, and yeah, I do know there are lot's of other minerals in the south like lead, zinc, etc,etc but no.1 is coal.
how do you plan to convince the world that the north belongs to the Albanians when it's populated by Serbs? You can't take it by force so there's no way you'll gain control over it.
Hopefully Belgrade will come to some agreement with the EU and US about mining rights in the north with the tax revenue going to Belgrade and jobs to the Serbs.
you'll have to try to find your own investors and markets for the rest of the minerals, but with energy in such short supply, I'm sure they'll be a very healthy market for coal for many years to come.
Can't say I agree with everything Surroi says, but he's certainly a moderate that equal moderates in Belgrade can work with. Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis.
I do indeed hope some sort of tacit modus vivendi is worked out by both sides in the months ahead.
Suroi is a very wise man in my opinion, and he must have won in Kosovo. But I would disagree with those who protray Thaci as an extremist. I am yet to see any extremist move, or speech or postition from Thaci, at least since he has been the prime minister.
What the serbian side here overlooks, is the fact that NO, i repeat, NO Kosovo politician will ever negotiate about the status.
But Suroi is right, both sides should work to slow the tension down, and maybe focus on things they can work on right now, such as trade and business.
What really bugs me is how unwise are the moves from Serbia towards the situation in Kosovo. By contributing to Kosovo's poverty Serbia most of all will hurt Kosovo Serbs. Albanians are now positioned a little better to surpass these bad times.
Poverty means more radicalism and intolerance, and that is not something that Serbs in Kosovo can sustain for a long time.
Well,Veton's message is clear. EU needs to pressure Serbia to allow Kosovo to function as a normal state (meaning to more power to control the north) and more pressure to Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
But, as World Index Media ranks Serbia way behind Kosovo, it's a proof that this article is distorted again.
It's only normal that Serbs should accept they can not drive us out of our homes, we will never accept Serb occupation. Self determination is our will, our basic right and not for negotiotion.
it is very surprising that science po and some networks still consider Veton as a master piece in kosova:our people in the last election clearly,indeed very strongfully told you that Veton is nothing in the kosovo political paysage ,with his less than 3per cent of voters!So ,clearly he represents only himself,and believe less than my mother who at least can gather her family around her,what veton can not do(3pc is a family network in kosova!)
so don't fool yourself with veton's declaration!ignore than!
"1.The whole world is trying to develop ways to reduce the greenhouse gases/CO2 emmisions and save the environment by using/finding alternative ways to produce power. I predict that the demand for coal is going to drastically drop in the years to come. I guess that's too bad for the serbs that want to keep the north to use the coal.
2. And even if the serbs wanted to strike a deal with US and EU the latter probably would not agree.
(Kanadezi, 23 April 2009 05:12)"
Alternative ways like carbon capture and storage technology for coal fired power stations?
First of all,lets be clear:
there is no such thing as a "moderate" Albanian politician.
A "moderate" Albanian politician would be someone who realizes that Kosovo will never become independent,that he must also allow the 200 000 Serbs who have been chased away from their homes to return and that he should highlight the crimes of his own people (for example:WW2,the intolerance,the killings of Serbs after 1999 etc.)
Surroi in my view is a "moderate" nationalist while the others can be considered ultranationalists.
@Radoslav
What you suggested would mean succumbing to terrorism and Albanian nationalism and giving away all the Serbian territory south of the Ibar.
Now I understand you,you want to finish this problem by saying "Oh lord,lets give them what they want,I`m tired of it!"
But this is exactly the wrong attidude,if they would stage an uprising in Presevo I am sure some of us would say:"Damn Presevo,give them that town it is not worth it etc..."
NO,NO and again NO we must not give up a square inch of Serbian territory because it would only embolden our enemies to continue with their aggressions and some years later we would end in Belgrade and its surroundings...
Mark my words,with the political power changes in the world we will get our opportunity to solve the Kosovo problem once and for all to our own terms!
Lili,
Unfortunately, Surroi is overqualified for you.
(Boza, 22 April 2009 19:41)
Thanks in advance for not teasing / hitting on the ladies next time, even if you strongly disagree with them.
This is very asymmetric because they are allowed do what we may not - but that's the life.
Apropos, ladies and Surroi and asymmetry. I am (stil) preferring Vlora Çitaku over anyone, including Surroi, Medvedjev, Tadic or Obama, she is damn cute. But I am 100% sure this feeling is asymmetric :(
No,he is not overqualified,not even as qualified as me,because then,he would have done much more than 3pc!;)))!
i tell you,only my family network and without any tv or newspaper i "do" better than veton's influence in kosovo!
But ,of course,you can still invite him to fool yourselves as science po paris did!but not to represent kosovo positions!
But i do agree ,so much investissments in that man ,from you and other offices, for a total fiasco is hard to accept for all of you !Try again to rescusite him!and good luck in this project;)) (en plus,this guy veton,is a misogyn as never seen in my life)
Suroi should have thought about this before the UDI, during the talks that were held for almost two years; at that time, however, protected by Ahtissari,the Albanian side was refusing to discuss anything else except independence; sorry, Suroi, nothing to talk about now except your illegal declaration of independence ...
Radoslav said:
"Their primary goal is access to the coal reserves, and yeah, I do know there are lot's of other minerals in the south like lead, zinc, etc,etc but no.1 is coal.
........
Hopefully Belgrade will come to some agreement with the EU and US about mining rights in the north with the tax revenue going to Belgrade and jobs to the Serbs."
1.The whole world is trying to develop ways to reduce the greenhouse gases/CO2 emmisions and save the environment by using/finding alternative ways to produce power. I predict that the demand for coal is going to drastically drop in the years to come. I guess that's too bad for the serbs that want to keep the north to use the coal.
2. And even if the serbs wanted to strike a deal with US and EU the latter probably would not agree.
It's only normal that Serbs should accept they can not drive us out of our homes, we will never accept Serb occupation. Self determination is our will, our basic right and not for negotiotion.
Well,Veton's message is clear. EU needs to pressure Serbia to allow Kosovo to function as a normal state (meaning to more power to control the north) and more pressure to Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
But, as World Index Media ranks Serbia way behind Kosovo, it's a proof that this article is distorted again.
it is very surprising that science po and some networks still consider Veton as a master piece in kosova:our people in the last election clearly,indeed very strongfully told you that Veton is nothing in the kosovo political paysage ,with his less than 3per cent of voters!So ,clearly he represents only himself,and believe less than my mother who at least can gather her family around her,what veton can not do(3pc is a family network in kosova!)
so don't fool yourself with veton's declaration!ignore than!
"Can't say I agree with everything Surroi says, but he's certainly a moderate that equal moderates in Belgrade can work with. Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis."
Moderate? You think he wants anything short of independence? Even Tadic knows that there's no way in hell Serbia can even begin to negotiate with EU without solving Kosova.
Suroi is a very wise man in my opinion, and he must have won in Kosovo. But I would disagree with those who protray Thaci as an extremist. I am yet to see any extremist move, or speech or postition from Thaci, at least since he has been the prime minister.
What the serbian side here overlooks, is the fact that NO, i repeat, NO Kosovo politician will ever negotiate about the status.
But Suroi is right, both sides should work to slow the tension down, and maybe focus on things they can work on right now, such as trade and business.
What really bugs me is how unwise are the moves from Serbia towards the situation in Kosovo. By contributing to Kosovo's poverty Serbia most of all will hurt Kosovo Serbs. Albanians are now positioned a little better to surpass these bad times.
Poverty means more radicalism and intolerance, and that is not something that Serbs in Kosovo can sustain for a long time.
Lili,
Unfortunately, Surroi is overqualified for you.
(Boza, 22 April 2009 19:41)
Thanks in advance for not teasing / hitting on the ladies next time, even if you strongly disagree with them.
This is very asymmetric because they are allowed do what we may not - but that's the life.
Apropos, ladies and Surroi and asymmetry. I am (stil) preferring Vlora Çitaku over anyone, including Surroi, Medvedjev, Tadic or Obama, she is damn cute. But I am 100% sure this feeling is asymmetric :(
You do not normalize relations with thieves. You do not normalize relations while 200,000 Serbs are kept from their homes and so much Serbian property is stolen.
You only lose in deals with thieves - they take and take and get what they want and Serbs get cheated again.
"Moderate? You think he wants anything short of independence?"(Alban, 22 April 2009 17:57)
We're talking about day-to-day issues that don't involve something as monumentally meaningless as status. We're talking about forming low-level cooperation and at least an understanding that quality of life needs to be addressed. At least Surroi seems to have the maturity and the foresight to understand this, unlike Thaci who increasingly comes across as an extra in a Borat movie.
so don't fool yourself with veton's declaration!ignore than!
lili
Oh no! I had my hopes up and now your destroy the little hope I had for friendly relations. You don't actually think his proposal would even be considered in Belgrade? Most albanians know what needs to be done for normal relations and as long as America is puting food on your table that won't be done.
Genti - What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If Albanians are allowed self determination then so are the Serbs. If Albanians can violate borders for self determination, then so can the Serbs.
Your comrade summed it up nicely "It's only normal that Serbs should accept they can not drive us out of our homes, we will never accept Serb occupation. Self determination is our will, our basic right and not for negotiotion."
Just replace the word Serb with Albanian and you see how the tables are turned.
If Serbia has no moral or legitimate claim over Kosovo then you likewise have no claim over northern Kosovo - it's a fact, legally and on the ground. I'll quite happily separate it into two bits but your masters won't be too happy about it.
Their primary goal is access to the coal reserves, and yeah, I do know there are lot's of other minerals in the south like lead, zinc, etc,etc but no.1 is coal.
how do you plan to convince the world that the north belongs to the Albanians when it's populated by Serbs? You can't take it by force so there's no way you'll gain control over it.
Hopefully Belgrade will come to some agreement with the EU and US about mining rights in the north with the tax revenue going to Belgrade and jobs to the Serbs.
you'll have to try to find your own investors and markets for the rest of the minerals, but with energy in such short supply, I'm sure they'll be a very healthy market for coal for many years to come.
Can't say I agree with everything Surroi says, but he's certainly a moderate that equal moderates in Belgrade can work with. Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis.
I do indeed hope some sort of tacit modus vivendi is worked out by both sides in the months ahead.
No,he is not overqualified,not even as qualified as me,because then,he would have done much more than 3pc!;)))!
i tell you,only my family network and without any tv or newspaper i "do" better than veton's influence in kosovo!
But ,of course,you can still invite him to fool yourselves as science po paris did!but not to represent kosovo positions!
But i do agree ,so much investissments in that man ,from you and other offices, for a total fiasco is hard to accept for all of you !Try again to rescusite him!and good luck in this project;)) (en plus,this guy veton,is a misogyn as never seen in my life)
First of all,lets be clear:
there is no such thing as a "moderate" Albanian politician.
A "moderate" Albanian politician would be someone who realizes that Kosovo will never become independent,that he must also allow the 200 000 Serbs who have been chased away from their homes to return and that he should highlight the crimes of his own people (for example:WW2,the intolerance,the killings of Serbs after 1999 etc.)
Surroi in my view is a "moderate" nationalist while the others can be considered ultranationalists.
@Radoslav
What you suggested would mean succumbing to terrorism and Albanian nationalism and giving away all the Serbian territory south of the Ibar.
Now I understand you,you want to finish this problem by saying "Oh lord,lets give them what they want,I`m tired of it!"
But this is exactly the wrong attidude,if they would stage an uprising in Presevo I am sure some of us would say:"Damn Presevo,give them that town it is not worth it etc..."
NO,NO and again NO we must not give up a square inch of Serbian territory because it would only embolden our enemies to continue with their aggressions and some years later we would end in Belgrade and its surroundings...
Mark my words,with the political power changes in the world we will get our opportunity to solve the Kosovo problem once and for all to our own terms!
Kosovo needs more Surrois and less Thacis. I do indeed hope some sort of tacit modus vivendi is worked out by both sides in the months ahead. (Mike, 22 April 2009 16:38)
Absolutely agree.
--------------
Veton is nothing in the kosovo political paysage ,with his less than 3per cent of voters!
(lili, 22 April 2009 16:43)
Pretty normal thing. Hungary's reasonable conservatives with some sign of backbone (MDF) or Russia's people who did not succumb to either nationalism or communism or kissing the behind of the West are also under 3%. It does merely mean, the political culture in these countries is pretty immature. Will take time and may one day these Veton Surroi-s play a stronger role. Until that happen, we will see tears, sweat and mass migration westwards.
We can say, that the entire school-class has to repeat the year because everyone got the worst note, but from all students who have to repeat the year, Slovenia, Slovakia and the eastern part of Germany were the best. If that can make them happy.
"1.The whole world is trying to develop ways to reduce the greenhouse gases/CO2 emmisions and save the environment by using/finding alternative ways to produce power. I predict that the demand for coal is going to drastically drop in the years to come. I guess that's too bad for the serbs that want to keep the north to use the coal.
2. And even if the serbs wanted to strike a deal with US and EU the latter probably would not agree.
(Kanadezi, 23 April 2009 05:12)"
Alternative ways like carbon capture and storage technology for coal fired power stations?
Radoslav said:
"Their primary goal is access to the coal reserves, and yeah, I do know there are lot's of other minerals in the south like lead, zinc, etc,etc but no.1 is coal.
........
Hopefully Belgrade will come to some agreement with the EU and US about mining rights in the north with the tax revenue going to Belgrade and jobs to the Serbs."
1.The whole world is trying to develop ways to reduce the greenhouse gases/CO2 emmisions and save the environment by using/finding alternative ways to produce power. I predict that the demand for coal is going to drastically drop in the years to come. I guess that's too bad for the serbs that want to keep the north to use the coal.
2. And even if the serbs wanted to strike a deal with US and EU the latter probably would not agree.
Suroi should have thought about this before the UDI, during the talks that were held for almost two years; at that time, however, protected by Ahtissari,the Albanian side was refusing to discuss anything else except independence; sorry, Suroi, nothing to talk about now except your illegal declaration of independence ...
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