35 countries to take part in ICJ case

All Serbia needed was Zimbabwe to complete the "Axis of Freedom" list. With USA, UK, Germany, France, Japan you can see why Kosova will win and Serbia will suffer the consequences from the EU /NATO powers after the devastating loss. Remember that EU (that is your Govt's #1 priority) is run by France, Germany, UK (and USA behind the scenes.) All are on our side!

Sarkozy invited Sali Berisha for talks this week in Paris. My guess: wait 2 months for the application, because as a NATO member and friendly country you will still get in much faster.

21 out 58 countries filed for Kosova, only 13 out of 140 for Serbia!!!

In favour of independence: 21
Againts independence: 13

USA, Graet Britain, France, Germany, Japan, Czech, Switzerland, Albania, Austria, Finland, Poland, Luxembourg, Estonia, Norway, The Netherlands, Slovenia, Letonia, Irland, Denmark, Maldives and Sierra Leone


Againts:
Russia, China, Cyprus, Romania, Egypt, Slovakia, Lybia, Spain, Iran, Brasil, Argentina, Azerbajani and Bolivia

Guess who wins ;)

I'm counting 20 - 21 in behalf of Kosovo while 15- 16 (including Serbia) for Serbian claim.
A bit of an anomaly for out of 58 countries that have recognized Kosovo already at least 20 are extra supportive, on the other side only 15 out of more than 133 countries that haven't yet recognized Kosovo.
One can easily conclude that Serbia will be dealt a huge blow after the ICJ decision. In meanwhile Kosovo will go back to an status quo state. The only victor Tadic and Co for their claim of "we fought but ICJ beat us" will prevail, that is do the inevitable and still be in good terms with the Serbian electorate.

Kosovo 21:13 Serbia

Italy has withdraw, and Greece haven't declared

In Favor of Kosovo: USA, GB, France, Germany, Japan, Czech, Switzerland, Albania, Austria, Finland, Poland, Luxemburg, Estonia, Norway, Netherland, Slovenia, Letonia, Ireland, Denmark, Maldive and Sierra Leone.

Against: Russia, China, Cyprys, Romania, Egypt, Slovakia, Lybia, Spain, Iran, Brazil, Argentina, Azerbajan and Bolivia.

Hmmm...All quiet on the Serbian front?

Need to say more.
Except for one question.

WHAT HAPPENED TO GREECE??

All I can say please Greece write for against as we couldn't care less.

Standing 21-14.

Weren't we told that 134 states were against Kosovo's independence? What about the other 120 allegedly anti-independence states?

Er kids I think that its the quality of factual evidence / arguments that the judges will base their decision on - not the number of countries giving their opinion of legality.

I can understand the excitement in some way as the process is finally under way, but lets not reduce this process to (pointless) point scoring...

counting the sheer number of pro´s and con´s in regard to states taking part in this ICJ-process simply makes me wonder how childish some of our dear friends here actually are...

kiddies, it doesn´t matter how many hav stated their opinion HERE, it count´s how many UN-member states are against an illegal puppet entity!

and the ICJ-process is not gonna be determined by the number of participants.

For Serbia: Cyprus, China, Romania, Egypt, Slovakia, Russia, Libya, Spain, Iran, Brazil, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia.

I wonder if the Serbia's intentions are to win non-biding advisory opinion of ICJ or halt the recognitions. Looking the big picture is the former because Serbia is doomed to lose as Jeremic said won't accept any decision if it favors Kosovo which obviously he knows.

Greece is missing here.

This is a court of law. Don't believe countries that "recognized" Kosovo will recognize in the ICJ.

I see only 2 countries voting in favor of Kosovo. Those 2 are pretty obvious.

It was always the Serbian side which was kidding around with numbers regarding recognitions and now when it comes to an eye-to-eye fight in front of a court, just a little more than one dozen countries want to support Serbia, not even mentioning the missing of Greece...

However, it is indirectly important to know that the majority of countries in front of the court does support the Kosovo.

Like it or not, but once again, the Kosovo diplomacy was far more effective then the Serbian one.

All of a sudden, we, the Albanians, have become kiddies! Imagine what would have happened in this topic if the numbers were in the opposite fronts!?

God bless the democratic world, and remember that the number 13 is cursed, lol.

Greets from Prishtina!

my dear Jovan, You said that this is "childish move", one word in our culture says: "speak as it is the place", so remember here that you foreign minister started the game, we are now independent.No need for us to go for IJC. We should go there only to judge your parallel people who are struggling to destroy everything.

For dear Gojko I have a comment, don't forget that perhaps only two countries are obvious against Kosovo and these two could be Serbia and Russia or China, all the others could happen to be in favor of independence.
We don't make money laundry that's why Cyprus don't vote in our favor!!!

good luck!!!

This is just as I have expected. For some in here maybe it doesn't matter how many countries submit their papers but it matters that since Kosova declared her independence things are much more better than ever before.

EULEX police are only watching and enjoying their stay in Kosova while KPS is providing all the security for citizens in Independent Kosova.

Personally I expect that ICJ(UN) will advise all countries who haven't yet recognized Kosova to do so just like EU did a while ago.

UN has learned many lessons in the past. ICJ will be discussed a few days and then it'll be dumped into a garbage container.

I see the anti-Serbs were quick to pounce on the numbers. However, as more recent posters have said -this is a court of law and whether or not more countries back Pristina over Belgrade will be largely irrelevant. Nice to see the might of the Maldives still paying off that US bribe!

I doubt the countries that have recognised Kosovo will vote against. Nobody would ever take those countries serious after that. So, it pretty much looks 21 against 13.

Serbia will loose it´s case!

Is it understood now that Poland and Czech Republic is on Kosovo side?

Forget about withdraw of recognition by these two countries.

I think the participation of countries is irrelevant, but it is a good graphic reminder of the quality of support each country is getting.

I am not certain that Iran will not recognize Kosovo at some point. Here is what the president of Iran had to say when asked about Kosovo:


Question: Kosovo was recognized by 60 countries, most of them are members of the European Union but not by Arab countries. Do think that Iran will soon be recognizing the independence of Kosovo or will this be some sort of revenge?

President Ahmadinejad: Our foreign policy is based on the fulfillment of peace, security and a lasting fraternity. We are looking for a larger solution to global and regional problems. We do believe that issues in the world and the region should [not] be resolved with the pursuit of revenge.

The issue of Kosovo falls within the same framework; it is being evaluated. Our stance certainly is in favor of helping to develop peace and brotherhood in the region. We have good ties with all countries and Albania.

So, he didn't take a hard stance against Kosovo's Independence. Will see what happens, but it looks like the situation with Iran is not as rigid as Jeremic has been presenting it.

oh thank you, i know i look youthful for someone in their, um, middle years, but i haven't been called a kid in some time :)

but pls, just one question -- has Otpor taken an official position yet on kosovo/a's independence? i'm just wondering what to do with my otpor membership card...

ciao!

roberto/ frisco

So this 21:13 is a really stupid way to look at it.
(Peggy, 22 April 2009 02:43)

Peggy if it was other way around you still would think "stupid"?

Remember it was Serbia who asked many countries to submit their opinion to ICJ.

Er kids I think that its the quality of factual evidence / arguments that the judges will base their decision on - not the number of countries giving their opinion of legality.

I can understand the excitement in some way as the process is finally under way, but lets not reduce this process to (pointless) point scoring...
(bganon, 22 April 2009 02:24)

Dear Bganon, really now, do you think that the opinions of the countries do not realy matter. Why then bother writing a useless document then.

Or maybe just maybe if the favours were on the other side, cant help but think your opinion would see a drastic change.

Quality of arguments, not quantity of supporters.

Something tells me Maldives and Sierra Leone aren't going to make that much of a difference, and Czech Republic, Norway and France could go either way. Still, it's funny how Albanians need the support of others to defend what they regard as a self-evident truth.

Don't get too excited K-Albs, just because some countries have recognised Kosovo it doesn't mean that the written statements will be in favour of Independent Kosovo.

Somehow i predict the Czech Republic, Poland, Ireland will write in favour of Serbia.. The public recognition was to satisfy the USA but a written document about legality is another.

In any case i don't think the ICJ are brave enough to make a clear decision, it will go neither way. It's back to square one and Kosovo back to Serbia...

Now kids we know you can count but can you spell Kosovo is Serbia?

The ICJ process will be supervised by the NGO Chatham House. Does anybody know if Chatham House is neutral or if they were involved in the unilateral declaration?

Just wondering why India didn't file an opinion...

1) Math exercises before court decision are useless. After the court decision they are also useless.

2) Numbers are not enough. One single argument counts more than saying "blah-blah" ten times.

3) The stance of some countries on the list is easy to guess (Albania, NL, USA). The stance of others and if yes, the quality of their writing is not: CZ, PL. The quality of the essay submited and expertise in that matter of some other countries on the list (Lybia, Iran, Sierra Leone comes in my mind) is of question.

It is amusing to see everyone here to twist the numbers back and forth, congratulate or display joy.... before the verdict is read. In retrospect some comments would look silly, we just do not know which ones.

Serbia looks pretty well represented, and is supported by a very diverse group from most corners of our round world. I think that bodes well for the arguments that will be put forth on its behalf by: 4 EU/3 NATO countries (Cyprus-nonNato, Slovakia, Romania, and Spain); 2 UN veto-wielding countries (China and Russia); An arab country (Egypt); A couple of powerful latin American countries (Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia); African country (Libya); Muslim country (Iran); Asian (China).

Of the 21 filing in support of UDI declarion being legal, 17 of the 21 are European. Then there is arguably the most powerful country in the world, the US (N America); Japan (Asia), and Siera Lione (Africa) and Maldives (Buhdist/Muslim ?Island Nation). The absence of any Latin American countries/Spanish speaking countries or Arab countries is conspicuous. But, one cannot (should not) underestimate the US.

Of the EU countries, it is interesting that Greece, Italy, Belgium, and Portugal are sitting this one out, on the sidelines.

Earlier, it had been reported that Georgia would be submiting a brief. I don't see them on the list now. Big brother US must have paid Saakashvili a visit.

Given that the Czech Republic, while recognizing the UDI, has spoken out of both sides of its mouth, I think its brief will be intresting reading.

Girls,

Its quality not quantity. The weight of Serbia's argument is worth its weight in gold, no matter what the imperialists say or their lapdog minions.

Great list, a great divide and unbalanced one in favor of the free people, of justice and democracy. Those are not less than 21.

Well we have to be realist that this is a great favor for Kosovo. These are the reasons why:

1. It will win
2. It will increase dramatically the number of countries that will recognize it after the decision.
3. It will make it very obvious to the outer world and other countries who haven't recognized yet to do so.
4. It will bring the case to the international attention
5. It will informally make Kosovo be presented as a country
6. It will be the last time in Kosovo's history where it Will not be presented as a country before an international institution.

* I assume that we have enough reasons to thank Jeremic for doing Kosovo this great favor and putting it in front of ICJ.

The case will be precedent for many other regions to follow, maybe even Vojvodina itself someday.

I find it quite amusing that Albanians are rejoicing in the number of supprters.
They way you see it is that the countries who have not submitted their written case for Serbia must somehow be on your side. Well, you have quite a few countries which have recognized you not submitting as well. It doesn't mean that they will take back their recognition any more than those countries which have not submitted for Serbia will somehow now recognize you.
Don't read too much into the numbers.

When you go to court to argue a point of law it doesn't matter how many witnesses you have on your side or against you. The law is the law and judges will rule accordingly.
So this 21:13 is a really stupid way to look at it.

I will laugh my ass off if the Obama administration decide to do a 180 turn on Kosovo just to spite the former Bush administration.

The reason why there are more recognising countries submitting opinions is because they will feel that they have to justify the position they have taken more than the larger number of countries that have not recognised.

I am surprised that Azerbaijan is on Serbia's side since Azeris are a Turkic ethnic group,but they know that if the Albanians win this case, they will ended up losing Nagorno-Karabakh in the future for good! Romanians also are on Serbia's side because they know that the Székelys will try to do something funny at Erdély if the Albos win this case, the same applies to Slovakia,Spain and China, all having provinces that want to become Independent.

Hekuran

Poland and Chech Repuplic on your side.Forget it.It is the polish and chech goverments full of foreign-harted elements who only watch the interests of their masters and not their people.AS soon as patriotic goverments win in these countries the forced recognitions will be withdrawn.People in these countries through non-govermental media chanals are well informed about who albanians are.You will hardly find any other country where you are less popular among inhabitans than Poland and Chech Republic(Including Greece and Serbia).

to the guy who calls himself "master":

even if you still don´t realize it - you are not independent.

as for those other "smart" kids..
roberto, you should really just stick to your "frisco"-nonsense, since away from that there is not much very interesting stuff to read from you - to be honest - simply nothing ( not even funny ).

as for all the others:

Kate is right, or was it Peggy?( sorry for misquoting again, if that should be the case )

counting numbers in that regard is not only just stupid, it is childish indeed.

and what proves the level of naivety is the very simple manner of justifying that kind of "argument" with sentences like " if it was the other way around, you would say the same" - what a nonsense.

my dear kiddies, TRUTH has no owner, and LAW has a certain function in the civilized world - please don´t think it´s function is to K-albanians.

you could be disappointed in the end.

Peggy if it was other way around you still would think "stupid"?

Remember it was Serbia who asked many countries to submit their opinion to ICJ.
(EA, 22 April 2009 20:57)

Yes EA, I would. I just said previously that they will be arguing on point of law not who has more supporters.

So yes, the whole counting of numbers wil stupid.

Just one minute, everybody:

What will be discussed it's if the Kosovo independence is legal or not. Not if it's the best option or if they deserve it. There's a big difference.

I personally believe that there IS NOT other option for Kosovo, but also that the unilateral independence is ILLEGAL.

That's the position that probably the south american countries (where I come from) will defend.

This is a court of law. Don't believe countries that "recognized" Kosovo will recognize in the ICJ.

I see only 2 countries voting in favor of Kosovo. Those 2 are pretty obvious.

counting the sheer number of pro´s and con´s in regard to states taking part in this ICJ-process simply makes me wonder how childish some of our dear friends here actually are...

kiddies, it doesn´t matter how many hav stated their opinion HERE, it count´s how many UN-member states are against an illegal puppet entity!

and the ICJ-process is not gonna be determined by the number of participants.

I'm counting 20 - 21 in behalf of Kosovo while 15- 16 (including Serbia) for Serbian claim.
A bit of an anomaly for out of 58 countries that have recognized Kosovo already at least 20 are extra supportive, on the other side only 15 out of more than 133 countries that haven't yet recognized Kosovo.
One can easily conclude that Serbia will be dealt a huge blow after the ICJ decision. In meanwhile Kosovo will go back to an status quo state. The only victor Tadic and Co for their claim of "we fought but ICJ beat us" will prevail, that is do the inevitable and still be in good terms with the Serbian electorate.

All Serbia needed was Zimbabwe to complete the "Axis of Freedom" list. With USA, UK, Germany, France, Japan you can see why Kosova will win and Serbia will suffer the consequences from the EU /NATO powers after the devastating loss. Remember that EU (that is your Govt's #1 priority) is run by France, Germany, UK (and USA behind the scenes.) All are on our side!

Sarkozy invited Sali Berisha for talks this week in Paris. My guess: wait 2 months for the application, because as a NATO member and friendly country you will still get in much faster.

21 out 58 countries filed for Kosova, only 13 out of 140 for Serbia!!!

Er kids I think that its the quality of factual evidence / arguments that the judges will base their decision on - not the number of countries giving their opinion of legality.

I can understand the excitement in some way as the process is finally under way, but lets not reduce this process to (pointless) point scoring...

Girls,

Its quality not quantity. The weight of Serbia's argument is worth its weight in gold, no matter what the imperialists say or their lapdog minions.

In favour of independence: 21
Againts independence: 13

USA, Graet Britain, France, Germany, Japan, Czech, Switzerland, Albania, Austria, Finland, Poland, Luxembourg, Estonia, Norway, The Netherlands, Slovenia, Letonia, Irland, Denmark, Maldives and Sierra Leone


Againts:
Russia, China, Cyprus, Romania, Egypt, Slovakia, Lybia, Spain, Iran, Brasil, Argentina, Azerbajani and Bolivia

Guess who wins ;)

I find it quite amusing that Albanians are rejoicing in the number of supprters.
They way you see it is that the countries who have not submitted their written case for Serbia must somehow be on your side. Well, you have quite a few countries which have recognized you not submitting as well. It doesn't mean that they will take back their recognition any more than those countries which have not submitted for Serbia will somehow now recognize you.
Don't read too much into the numbers.

When you go to court to argue a point of law it doesn't matter how many witnesses you have on your side or against you. The law is the law and judges will rule accordingly.
So this 21:13 is a really stupid way to look at it.

I will laugh my ass off if the Obama administration decide to do a 180 turn on Kosovo just to spite the former Bush administration.

Standing 21-14.

Weren't we told that 134 states were against Kosovo's independence? What about the other 120 allegedly anti-independence states?

Kosovo 21:13 Serbia

Italy has withdraw, and Greece haven't declared

In Favor of Kosovo: USA, GB, France, Germany, Japan, Czech, Switzerland, Albania, Austria, Finland, Poland, Luxemburg, Estonia, Norway, Netherland, Slovenia, Letonia, Ireland, Denmark, Maldive and Sierra Leone.

Against: Russia, China, Cyprys, Romania, Egypt, Slovakia, Lybia, Spain, Iran, Brazil, Argentina, Azerbajan and Bolivia.

I doubt the countries that have recognised Kosovo will vote against. Nobody would ever take those countries serious after that. So, it pretty much looks 21 against 13.

Serbia will loose it´s case!

Don't get too excited K-Albs, just because some countries have recognised Kosovo it doesn't mean that the written statements will be in favour of Independent Kosovo.

Somehow i predict the Czech Republic, Poland, Ireland will write in favour of Serbia.. The public recognition was to satisfy the USA but a written document about legality is another.

In any case i don't think the ICJ are brave enough to make a clear decision, it will go neither way. It's back to square one and Kosovo back to Serbia...

Now kids we know you can count but can you spell Kosovo is Serbia?

I see the anti-Serbs were quick to pounce on the numbers. However, as more recent posters have said -this is a court of law and whether or not more countries back Pristina over Belgrade will be largely irrelevant. Nice to see the might of the Maldives still paying off that US bribe!

Hmmm...All quiet on the Serbian front?

Need to say more.
Except for one question.

WHAT HAPPENED TO GREECE??

All I can say please Greece write for against as we couldn't care less.

Quality of arguments, not quantity of supporters.

Something tells me Maldives and Sierra Leone aren't going to make that much of a difference, and Czech Republic, Norway and France could go either way. Still, it's funny how Albanians need the support of others to defend what they regard as a self-evident truth.

oh thank you, i know i look youthful for someone in their, um, middle years, but i haven't been called a kid in some time :)

but pls, just one question -- has Otpor taken an official position yet on kosovo/a's independence? i'm just wondering what to do with my otpor membership card...

ciao!

roberto/ frisco

It was always the Serbian side which was kidding around with numbers regarding recognitions and now when it comes to an eye-to-eye fight in front of a court, just a little more than one dozen countries want to support Serbia, not even mentioning the missing of Greece...

However, it is indirectly important to know that the majority of countries in front of the court does support the Kosovo.

Like it or not, but once again, the Kosovo diplomacy was far more effective then the Serbian one.

Hekuran

Poland and Chech Repuplic on your side.Forget it.It is the polish and chech goverments full of foreign-harted elements who only watch the interests of their masters and not their people.AS soon as patriotic goverments win in these countries the forced recognitions will be withdrawn.People in these countries through non-govermental media chanals are well informed about who albanians are.You will hardly find any other country where you are less popular among inhabitans than Poland and Chech Republic(Including Greece and Serbia).

Is it understood now that Poland and Czech Republic is on Kosovo side?

Forget about withdraw of recognition by these two countries.

This is just as I have expected. For some in here maybe it doesn't matter how many countries submit their papers but it matters that since Kosova declared her independence things are much more better than ever before.

EULEX police are only watching and enjoying their stay in Kosova while KPS is providing all the security for citizens in Independent Kosova.

Personally I expect that ICJ(UN) will advise all countries who haven't yet recognized Kosova to do so just like EU did a while ago.

UN has learned many lessons in the past. ICJ will be discussed a few days and then it'll be dumped into a garbage container.

1) Math exercises before court decision are useless. After the court decision they are also useless.

2) Numbers are not enough. One single argument counts more than saying "blah-blah" ten times.

3) The stance of some countries on the list is easy to guess (Albania, NL, USA). The stance of others and if yes, the quality of their writing is not: CZ, PL. The quality of the essay submited and expertise in that matter of some other countries on the list (Lybia, Iran, Sierra Leone comes in my mind) is of question.

It is amusing to see everyone here to twist the numbers back and forth, congratulate or display joy.... before the verdict is read. In retrospect some comments would look silly, we just do not know which ones.

The reason why there are more recognising countries submitting opinions is because they will feel that they have to justify the position they have taken more than the larger number of countries that have not recognised.

So this 21:13 is a really stupid way to look at it.
(Peggy, 22 April 2009 02:43)

Peggy if it was other way around you still would think "stupid"?

Remember it was Serbia who asked many countries to submit their opinion to ICJ.

Serbia looks pretty well represented, and is supported by a very diverse group from most corners of our round world. I think that bodes well for the arguments that will be put forth on its behalf by: 4 EU/3 NATO countries (Cyprus-nonNato, Slovakia, Romania, and Spain); 2 UN veto-wielding countries (China and Russia); An arab country (Egypt); A couple of powerful latin American countries (Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia); African country (Libya); Muslim country (Iran); Asian (China).

Of the 21 filing in support of UDI declarion being legal, 17 of the 21 are European. Then there is arguably the most powerful country in the world, the US (N America); Japan (Asia), and Siera Lione (Africa) and Maldives (Buhdist/Muslim ?Island Nation). The absence of any Latin American countries/Spanish speaking countries or Arab countries is conspicuous. But, one cannot (should not) underestimate the US.

Of the EU countries, it is interesting that Greece, Italy, Belgium, and Portugal are sitting this one out, on the sidelines.

Earlier, it had been reported that Georgia would be submiting a brief. I don't see them on the list now. Big brother US must have paid Saakashvili a visit.

Given that the Czech Republic, while recognizing the UDI, has spoken out of both sides of its mouth, I think its brief will be intresting reading.

my dear Jovan, You said that this is "childish move", one word in our culture says: "speak as it is the place", so remember here that you foreign minister started the game, we are now independent.No need for us to go for IJC. We should go there only to judge your parallel people who are struggling to destroy everything.

For dear Gojko I have a comment, don't forget that perhaps only two countries are obvious against Kosovo and these two could be Serbia and Russia or China, all the others could happen to be in favor of independence.
We don't make money laundry that's why Cyprus don't vote in our favor!!!

good luck!!!

Great list, a great divide and unbalanced one in favor of the free people, of justice and democracy. Those are not less than 21.

Well we have to be realist that this is a great favor for Kosovo. These are the reasons why:

1. It will win
2. It will increase dramatically the number of countries that will recognize it after the decision.
3. It will make it very obvious to the outer world and other countries who haven't recognized yet to do so.
4. It will bring the case to the international attention
5. It will informally make Kosovo be presented as a country
6. It will be the last time in Kosovo's history where it Will not be presented as a country before an international institution.

* I assume that we have enough reasons to thank Jeremic for doing Kosovo this great favor and putting it in front of ICJ.

The case will be precedent for many other regions to follow, maybe even Vojvodina itself someday.

All of a sudden, we, the Albanians, have become kiddies! Imagine what would have happened in this topic if the numbers were in the opposite fronts!?

God bless the democratic world, and remember that the number 13 is cursed, lol.

Greets from Prishtina!

Er kids I think that its the quality of factual evidence / arguments that the judges will base their decision on - not the number of countries giving their opinion of legality.

I can understand the excitement in some way as the process is finally under way, but lets not reduce this process to (pointless) point scoring...
(bganon, 22 April 2009 02:24)

Dear Bganon, really now, do you think that the opinions of the countries do not realy matter. Why then bother writing a useless document then.

Or maybe just maybe if the favours were on the other side, cant help but think your opinion would see a drastic change.

Peggy if it was other way around you still would think "stupid"?

Remember it was Serbia who asked many countries to submit their opinion to ICJ.
(EA, 22 April 2009 20:57)

Yes EA, I would. I just said previously that they will be arguing on point of law not who has more supporters.

So yes, the whole counting of numbers wil stupid.

The ICJ process will be supervised by the NGO Chatham House. Does anybody know if Chatham House is neutral or if they were involved in the unilateral declaration?

Just one minute, everybody:

What will be discussed it's if the Kosovo independence is legal or not. Not if it's the best option or if they deserve it. There's a big difference.

I personally believe that there IS NOT other option for Kosovo, but also that the unilateral independence is ILLEGAL.

That's the position that probably the south american countries (where I come from) will defend.

to the guy who calls himself "master":

even if you still don´t realize it - you are not independent.

as for those other "smart" kids..
roberto, you should really just stick to your "frisco"-nonsense, since away from that there is not much very interesting stuff to read from you - to be honest - simply nothing ( not even funny ).

as for all the others:

Kate is right, or was it Peggy?( sorry for misquoting again, if that should be the case )

counting numbers in that regard is not only just stupid, it is childish indeed.

and what proves the level of naivety is the very simple manner of justifying that kind of "argument" with sentences like " if it was the other way around, you would say the same" - what a nonsense.

my dear kiddies, TRUTH has no owner, and LAW has a certain function in the civilized world - please don´t think it´s function is to K-albanians.

you could be disappointed in the end.

I am surprised that Azerbaijan is on Serbia's side since Azeris are a Turkic ethnic group,but they know that if the Albanians win this case, they will ended up losing Nagorno-Karabakh in the future for good! Romanians also are on Serbia's side because they know that the Székelys will try to do something funny at Erdély if the Albos win this case, the same applies to Slovakia,Spain and China, all having provinces that want to become Independent.

For Serbia: Cyprus, China, Romania, Egypt, Slovakia, Russia, Libya, Spain, Iran, Brazil, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia.

I wonder if the Serbia's intentions are to win non-biding advisory opinion of ICJ or halt the recognitions. Looking the big picture is the former because Serbia is doomed to lose as Jeremic said won't accept any decision if it favors Kosovo which obviously he knows.

Greece is missing here.

I think the participation of countries is irrelevant, but it is a good graphic reminder of the quality of support each country is getting.

I am not certain that Iran will not recognize Kosovo at some point. Here is what the president of Iran had to say when asked about Kosovo:


Question: Kosovo was recognized by 60 countries, most of them are members of the European Union but not by Arab countries. Do think that Iran will soon be recognizing the independence of Kosovo or will this be some sort of revenge?

President Ahmadinejad: Our foreign policy is based on the fulfillment of peace, security and a lasting fraternity. We are looking for a larger solution to global and regional problems. We do believe that issues in the world and the region should [not] be resolved with the pursuit of revenge.

The issue of Kosovo falls within the same framework; it is being evaluated. Our stance certainly is in favor of helping to develop peace and brotherhood in the region. We have good ties with all countries and Albania.

So, he didn't take a hard stance against Kosovo's Independence. Will see what happens, but it looks like the situation with Iran is not as rigid as Jeremic has been presenting it.

Just wondering why India didn't file an opinion...