Romania submits opinion on Kosovo

According to unofficial information, Belgrade's case will be supported by Russia, China, Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Cyprus, Georgia, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia and Venezuela.

The Kosovo Albanians are likely to have the backing of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Denmark and Slovenia.

Its a case here of the West v the rest.

It is worth noting that not only does Serbia have International Law on its side (political & moral) but some heavy political and economic hitters too in Russia, China, the EU 5 as wel as Argentina, Bolivia, and the man the irredentist Albanians love to hate, El Presidente himself, Hugo Chavez.

I shall be toasting you tonight Comrade.

The Kosovo Albanians are likely to have the backing of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Denmark and Slovenia.

What surprises me the most is Switzerland (the country of "perpetual neutrality") along with Slovenia- the country who is trying to gain commercial benefits from the Serbian people, while actively going against Serbia and her sovereign interests. The other countries are not really completely "sovereign" themselves- simply puppet political entities of the US and Germany. Too bad- military and political alliances, and the abandonment of reason, have caused more wars than peace in history.

A clear, rational, fair and realistic view on International Law and fortunately there are still many descent and honest countries in this big world. The only real question will be how impartial the ICJ will be and if the will be able to withstand the pressure from the Kosovo Albanian supporters. I still believe that Serbia has a good case with a high probability to win (although it is an opinion that will most likely be ignored by The West as one would expect of soar losers). The most likely outcome will be the the current limbo that has been going on for almost 14 months will continue.

I am afraid at the damage that Georgia, Azerbaijan and Bolivia can cause to Kosovo's case. I think Serbia should have enlisted Iran (as yet another undemocratic country) to support it in court of law.

RE; United States

The United States opinion is null and void as they are not signatory to the ICJ (International Court of Justice).

The opinion submitted should be thrown out of the ICJ immediately if this court is truly impartial and legal.

Neil,

Get ready your next answer that the desicion by ICJ was taken under American pressure. We have heared this in the past....By the way have my assurances that THERE is no return to Serbia. Serbia with its attitude towards Kosova its pushing Kosova to join Albania.

Here is the greatest paradox of all times: Russia and Georgia are both supporting Serbia in ICJ while being involved in a nasty conflict for similar reasons. I am wondering how that is going to work out.

Come on Serbia! This will be either epic victory for jutice or return to dark age of George Orwell and "Brave new World"...

East vs West? West always wins. The West owns the ICJ. That's why Kosovo became independent in the first place. Why didn't Russia, China, and el Presidente stop it in 2008? Right, they couldn't. Why didn't Russia, China, and el Presidente do anything when NATO planes were blazing Serbia? Right, they couldn't. Who allowed it? The West. Who responded? The West. It's always the West that wins.

Case closed. I'll toast a drink of red wine tonight to freedom.

Niall,

Most of countries behind Serbia are not known to be supporters of international law; they are out in support of new alliances or in support of their unfair ethnic policies.

It's going to be interesting when the ICJ rules that all independence declarations are illegal.

Niall, where is Ireland to tilt the decision?

Hey guys, are we talking here about the international law or the strengths? Either way, I think the sunrise is in Kosova's side.

If there will be any law at all on this case, it will be on Kosova's side.

If there will be a show-of-strengths by the countries involved in this case, than again, it's a win for Kosova!

So either way, Serbia's case is lost and I don't want to get into details cz it's just a waste of time, and you all know that!

Greets from Prishtina!

First the honorary degree now this, hell, this is the end of Kosova for sure.

Thank you Romania. It takes a lot of courage to be one of the few who stand proud in today's highly immoral EU ... To those who support K-independence I wish you "many happy similar returns".

'The Kosovo Albanians are likely to have the backing of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Denmark and Slovenia.'

Putting it in short form: US/UK & Greater Germany.

Just look at them!

It's so pathetic but it also very sad. It's this abovementioned gang who hope to lead the 'New World Order'.

They feel they are more advanced and socio-politically aware than the vast majority of Earth's Nations.

How ridiculous they will appear in our children's history books!

It will be interesting to find see what Turkey has brought forward. I am sure that it will be very important if not one of the most important.

Mulþumesc!

To bad, here can't buy Cotnari wine.

Interesting that both Russia and Georgia are submitting on behalf of Serbia. You think they might be working toward creating a precedent that might help their own causes on Ossetia? All the submissions will be interesting reading; that's for sure.
I'm not sure if Serbia's request for an ICJ ruling was wise or not. Generally, on one hand, I think that filing it might be a win-win for Serbia. If the ICJ rules in its favor (that state soverignty trumps self determination in this case), then obviously it is a win; if the opposite, arguably, one could foresee legal grounwork being layed for an independent Republika Srpska, or even an independent Republic of Mitrovica, etc. Personally, I think it was a mistake. Belgrade has control over the Mitrovica region. There is no doubt about that. Pristina could only assert control over the area by force. Doing so would be not only a drain on K Serbs, but on Pristina, the region, and the international forces. An adverse decision at the ICJ, arguably, takes away Serbia's legal authority over the area (whether binding or not is irrelevant in my opinion b/c it would give the West, etc an opening w/o begrudgingly looking for Belgrade's consent all the time). Serbia's legal authority over Kosovo (1244) is something that was not questioned by the UN or even the EU (Recall that the reason for the delay in their deployment was that they did not have a legal basis to deploy, which they did not have until Belgrade gave its consent, under 1244.) A an adverse ruling, or even an ambiguous ruling, or some favorable language in the opinion, is all the west needs to move. Can't wait to get my hands on the submissions. Will they be posted on the UN web site, does anyone know?

>>It is worth noting that not only does Serbia have International Law on its side (political & moral) but some heavy political and economic hitters too in Russia, China, the EU 5 as wel as Argentina, Bolivia, and the man the irredentist Albanians love to hate, El Presidente himself, Hugo Chavez.

I shall be toasting you tonight Comrade.
(Niall O'Doherty, 16 April 2009 17:10)

sometimes i wonder if these comments are for real or just pure satire, "comrade"! some (very) theatrical production...

anyway, can someone serious define what an "albanian irredentist" means? i guess i could google it but it just feels sooo dated, even by my calculations, and that's saying a lot.

So either way, Serbia's case is lost and I don't want to get into details cz it's just a waste of time, and you all know that!

Greets from Prishtina!
(AO KS, 16 April 2009 22:41)

AO,

Shame on you - having to much Cotnari in secret and not sharing with us? Are you buying it from Romanian "Internationals"?

Serbs drink "za troicu", Russians "na troih". Be them Catholic or Pravoslav: "three" is a good number for drinking. You are not God, only Him is "one". Not good to drink alone :-)

@ Rick

switzerland is just pragmatic, cause they have an albanian problem too.

they estimate 300 000 albanians in switzerland, with whole neighbourhoods under sharia "law" and the raping of white women even at daylight getting usual.

due to fabricated west-propaganda about a "genocide" against albanians in south-serbia (plus the "limbo" about kosmet), they couldn't get rid off them and extradict them neither to serbia nor to occupied parts of kosovo.

now they can....

Case closed. I'll toast a drink of red wine tonight to freedom.
(deceiver, 16 April 2009 19:27)

No way. It should be Cotnari white.

I recall, 1979 we did buy one bottle and smuggled it to Hungary - it was prohibited to buy Cotnari for Lei and take it out of the country during Ceasescu. You could buy of course Cotnari for Dollars in Dollar store, but who of us had Dollars in 1979?

Anyway, cheers with virtual glass of Cotnari this time!

sometimes i wonder if these comments are for real or just pure satire, "comrade"! some (very) theatrical production...
(roberto, 17 April 2009 07:02)

It's for real, Roberto. Try it out: after few (or many, I prefer 'MANY') glasses of much mentioned Cotnari white wine simply everyone will become your comrade. It works.

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anyway, can someone serious define what an "albanian irredentist" means?
(roberto, 17 April 2009 07:02)

The ones who support the "Great Albania" idea at the costs of their neighbors and would like to move the borders - even at the price of military conflict.

Since we did see some comments here pretty much in that spirit, you do not need to even google - they do exist. I have no idea how many tough. Their number also can vary. While Cotnari White is not well-known in Albania or Kosovo, the "Skanderbeu" brandy or different variations of "Raki" are. Albanians rarely complain about Serbian Shlivovica.

According the tourist guidebook I just did read in a bookstore in BP: the level of Albanian irredentism can vary depending on the amount of Skanderbeu consumed. It advises after a certain level not to argue with the drinking partner.

Be careful: somehow these Albanians and Serbs (+Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks...) can magically stop to drink at the right moment, unlike Americans, Brits, Russians, Scandinavians. And it's strictly a "male-only" activity.

(Hint to future EXIT Festival travelers what NOT to do, NEVER EVER!)

I am afraid at the damage that Georgia, Azerbaijan and Bolivia can cause to Kosovo's case. I think Serbia should have enlisted Iran (as yet another undemocratic country) to support it in court of law.

According to unofficial information, Belgrade's case will be supported by Russia, China, Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Cyprus, Georgia, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bolivia and Venezuela.

The Kosovo Albanians are likely to have the backing of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Denmark and Slovenia.

Its a case here of the West v the rest.

It is worth noting that not only does Serbia have International Law on its side (political & moral) but some heavy political and economic hitters too in Russia, China, the EU 5 as wel as Argentina, Bolivia, and the man the irredentist Albanians love to hate, El Presidente himself, Hugo Chavez.

I shall be toasting you tonight Comrade.

East vs West? West always wins. The West owns the ICJ. That's why Kosovo became independent in the first place. Why didn't Russia, China, and el Presidente stop it in 2008? Right, they couldn't. Why didn't Russia, China, and el Presidente do anything when NATO planes were blazing Serbia? Right, they couldn't. Who allowed it? The West. Who responded? The West. It's always the West that wins.

Case closed. I'll toast a drink of red wine tonight to freedom.

Neil,

Get ready your next answer that the desicion by ICJ was taken under American pressure. We have heared this in the past....By the way have my assurances that THERE is no return to Serbia. Serbia with its attitude towards Kosova its pushing Kosova to join Albania.

Niall,

Most of countries behind Serbia are not known to be supporters of international law; they are out in support of new alliances or in support of their unfair ethnic policies.

Hey guys, are we talking here about the international law or the strengths? Either way, I think the sunrise is in Kosova's side.

If there will be any law at all on this case, it will be on Kosova's side.

If there will be a show-of-strengths by the countries involved in this case, than again, it's a win for Kosova!

So either way, Serbia's case is lost and I don't want to get into details cz it's just a waste of time, and you all know that!

Greets from Prishtina!

Here is the greatest paradox of all times: Russia and Georgia are both supporting Serbia in ICJ while being involved in a nasty conflict for similar reasons. I am wondering how that is going to work out.

The Kosovo Albanians are likely to have the backing of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Denmark and Slovenia.

What surprises me the most is Switzerland (the country of "perpetual neutrality") along with Slovenia- the country who is trying to gain commercial benefits from the Serbian people, while actively going against Serbia and her sovereign interests. The other countries are not really completely "sovereign" themselves- simply puppet political entities of the US and Germany. Too bad- military and political alliances, and the abandonment of reason, have caused more wars than peace in history.

RE; United States

The United States opinion is null and void as they are not signatory to the ICJ (International Court of Justice).

The opinion submitted should be thrown out of the ICJ immediately if this court is truly impartial and legal.

Come on Serbia! This will be either epic victory for jutice or return to dark age of George Orwell and "Brave new World"...

A clear, rational, fair and realistic view on International Law and fortunately there are still many descent and honest countries in this big world. The only real question will be how impartial the ICJ will be and if the will be able to withstand the pressure from the Kosovo Albanian supporters. I still believe that Serbia has a good case with a high probability to win (although it is an opinion that will most likely be ignored by The West as one would expect of soar losers). The most likely outcome will be the the current limbo that has been going on for almost 14 months will continue.

First the honorary degree now this, hell, this is the end of Kosova for sure.

>>It is worth noting that not only does Serbia have International Law on its side (political & moral) but some heavy political and economic hitters too in Russia, China, the EU 5 as wel as Argentina, Bolivia, and the man the irredentist Albanians love to hate, El Presidente himself, Hugo Chavez.

I shall be toasting you tonight Comrade.
(Niall O'Doherty, 16 April 2009 17:10)

sometimes i wonder if these comments are for real or just pure satire, "comrade"! some (very) theatrical production...

anyway, can someone serious define what an "albanian irredentist" means? i guess i could google it but it just feels sooo dated, even by my calculations, and that's saying a lot.

sometimes i wonder if these comments are for real or just pure satire, "comrade"! some (very) theatrical production...
(roberto, 17 April 2009 07:02)

It's for real, Roberto. Try it out: after few (or many, I prefer 'MANY') glasses of much mentioned Cotnari white wine simply everyone will become your comrade. It works.

------------

anyway, can someone serious define what an "albanian irredentist" means?
(roberto, 17 April 2009 07:02)

The ones who support the "Great Albania" idea at the costs of their neighbors and would like to move the borders - even at the price of military conflict.

Since we did see some comments here pretty much in that spirit, you do not need to even google - they do exist. I have no idea how many tough. Their number also can vary. While Cotnari White is not well-known in Albania or Kosovo, the "Skanderbeu" brandy or different variations of "Raki" are. Albanians rarely complain about Serbian Shlivovica.

According the tourist guidebook I just did read in a bookstore in BP: the level of Albanian irredentism can vary depending on the amount of Skanderbeu consumed. It advises after a certain level not to argue with the drinking partner.

Be careful: somehow these Albanians and Serbs (+Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks...) can magically stop to drink at the right moment, unlike Americans, Brits, Russians, Scandinavians. And it's strictly a "male-only" activity.

(Hint to future EXIT Festival travelers what NOT to do, NEVER EVER!)

It's going to be interesting when the ICJ rules that all independence declarations are illegal.

It will be interesting to find see what Turkey has brought forward. I am sure that it will be very important if not one of the most important.

Niall, where is Ireland to tilt the decision?

Interesting that both Russia and Georgia are submitting on behalf of Serbia. You think they might be working toward creating a precedent that might help their own causes on Ossetia? All the submissions will be interesting reading; that's for sure.
I'm not sure if Serbia's request for an ICJ ruling was wise or not. Generally, on one hand, I think that filing it might be a win-win for Serbia. If the ICJ rules in its favor (that state soverignty trumps self determination in this case), then obviously it is a win; if the opposite, arguably, one could foresee legal grounwork being layed for an independent Republika Srpska, or even an independent Republic of Mitrovica, etc. Personally, I think it was a mistake. Belgrade has control over the Mitrovica region. There is no doubt about that. Pristina could only assert control over the area by force. Doing so would be not only a drain on K Serbs, but on Pristina, the region, and the international forces. An adverse decision at the ICJ, arguably, takes away Serbia's legal authority over the area (whether binding or not is irrelevant in my opinion b/c it would give the West, etc an opening w/o begrudgingly looking for Belgrade's consent all the time). Serbia's legal authority over Kosovo (1244) is something that was not questioned by the UN or even the EU (Recall that the reason for the delay in their deployment was that they did not have a legal basis to deploy, which they did not have until Belgrade gave its consent, under 1244.) A an adverse ruling, or even an ambiguous ruling, or some favorable language in the opinion, is all the west needs to move. Can't wait to get my hands on the submissions. Will they be posted on the UN web site, does anyone know?

'The Kosovo Albanians are likely to have the backing of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, Finland, Denmark and Slovenia.'

Putting it in short form: US/UK & Greater Germany.

Just look at them!

It's so pathetic but it also very sad. It's this abovementioned gang who hope to lead the 'New World Order'.

They feel they are more advanced and socio-politically aware than the vast majority of Earth's Nations.

How ridiculous they will appear in our children's history books!

Mulþumesc!

To bad, here can't buy Cotnari wine.

Thank you Romania. It takes a lot of courage to be one of the few who stand proud in today's highly immoral EU ... To those who support K-independence I wish you "many happy similar returns".

@ Rick

switzerland is just pragmatic, cause they have an albanian problem too.

they estimate 300 000 albanians in switzerland, with whole neighbourhoods under sharia "law" and the raping of white women even at daylight getting usual.

due to fabricated west-propaganda about a "genocide" against albanians in south-serbia (plus the "limbo" about kosmet), they couldn't get rid off them and extradict them neither to serbia nor to occupied parts of kosovo.

now they can....

Case closed. I'll toast a drink of red wine tonight to freedom.
(deceiver, 16 April 2009 19:27)

No way. It should be Cotnari white.

I recall, 1979 we did buy one bottle and smuggled it to Hungary - it was prohibited to buy Cotnari for Lei and take it out of the country during Ceasescu. You could buy of course Cotnari for Dollars in Dollar store, but who of us had Dollars in 1979?

Anyway, cheers with virtual glass of Cotnari this time!

So either way, Serbia's case is lost and I don't want to get into details cz it's just a waste of time, and you all know that!

Greets from Prishtina!
(AO KS, 16 April 2009 22:41)

AO,

Shame on you - having to much Cotnari in secret and not sharing with us? Are you buying it from Romanian "Internationals"?

Serbs drink "za troicu", Russians "na troih". Be them Catholic or Pravoslav: "three" is a good number for drinking. You are not God, only Him is "one". Not good to drink alone :-)