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Sunday, 12.04.2009.

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Kosovo village struggles, keeps ethnic harmony

The Kosovo village of Sušica, some three kilometers from the Serb enclave of Gračanica, has Serbs and ethnic Albanians living together in peace.

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Peggy

pre 15 godina

Peggy, Serbs were a majority while Kosovo was a province of Serbia and it lead to war. Serbs are a majority in N. Mitrovica and that’s the most volatile part of the region at the moment.
(BH_NYC, 14 April 2009 12:37)

The only reason it led to war is because of Albanian greed. They want to steal someone else's territory. This would naturally lead to war.
Your argument doesn't hold water.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Dear malcolm, You are literally telling us that peace between the Serbs Albanians can only be valid if the Serbs are in charge. Thanks you for sharing your dangerous views.
(BH_NYC, 14 April 2009 12:37)

dear BH_NYC, this is not the first time i am confronted with your bias and prejudice. i do not say that serbs and albanians can live in peace only under serbian rule, where did you pull that from? and why would peace between serbs and albanians under serbian rule be a "dangerous" idea? what i am saying is that i do not take neither serbs nor albanians seriously who make noble proclamations about peace because that is not under dispute. both serbs and albanians want peace. hell, pretty much everyone on earth wants peace. the question is on whose terms. that's where all the conflicts come from including this one. people who say they want peace on their own terms and on their own terms only are not saying anything praise worthy. that's what i was telling you and quite literally so.

ataman, i am more than happy to celebrate every holiday available, but sometimes wishing happy holidays to others is like saying you want peace - dishonest. you should put this in the context of my entire comment.

BH_NYC

pre 15 godina

To: malcolm and Peggy

Dear malcolm, You are literally telling us that peace between the Serbs Albanians can only be valid if the Serbs are in charge. Thanks you for sharing your dangerous views.

Peggy, Serbs were a majority while Kosovo was a province of Serbia and it lead to war. Serbs are a majority in N. Mitrovica and that’s the most volatile part of the region at the moment.

Wim Roffel

pre 15 godina

DimTuc, I read the Ahtisaari Plan. At first look it seems very nice and the Serbs get a lot of minority rights. But when you look where the power goes, it is all to the Albanian side. Just look at the discussions about the Serb curriculum at the schools. Obviously the Serbs need something that fits with the Serbian curriculum as many will continue their studies in Serbia (200,000 Serbs is simply not the scale to offer local courses for all subjects). Where the kosovo constitution leads we can see: closed schools (in Western Europe such an extreme measure would at least have been preceded by long juridical procedures, but not in Kosovo). The Ahtisaari Plan has a non-solution: when the Albanians and the Serbs disagree the internationals will decide. But he fails to mention criteria on which they should base their decision. And having internationals decide is not long term solution: at some point the internationals will claim that the Albanians don't need the supervision any longer.

to AO KS: with the situation North of the Ibar you have a good argument. But I don't think it has to do with quality. I think it has rather to do with the circumstances. South of the Ibar the situation is decided: even when Kosovo becomes a province of Serbia it will one with an Albanian majority and autonomy where the Serbs have to adapt themselves. North of the Ibar anything can happen: it may become part of Serbia proper, but it may also become the target of Albanization policies from Pristina and have an Albanian majority in a decade. So all these incidents are part of a bigger struggle.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

i'd almost wish happy easter to everyone. but i am an atheist, so i won't.
(malcolm x, 13 April 2009 23:48)

We celebrate Chinese Lunar New Year because of friends and once in a while I even observe feast on the said day - but I am not Buddhist. In the fact, I am "undecided" because I cannot declare what I can't prove.

(To say the truth: due my environment and upbringing, if I would be hard pressed, I would be either Orthodox or Buddhist).

But that does not mean, we should not celebrate what is to celebrate. One more reason to have joy in our life.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Malcom x wrote,

it's just like saying: "i love peace. as long as it comes after i win the war."

That's the question I have asked on several occasions. On whose terms?
It's so noble to write that peace is wonderful because everyone agrees with it but who is going to run the show here?
On whose terms are we going to get peace? If Albanians are in charge in Pristina, the only peace we will have is when what is left of the Serbs completely submit to Albanan rule and don't ask their police to investigate who threw that last petrol bomb in their house.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

EA's comment does mean, he is happy to see less fighting, he wants even less fighting and he wishes happy Easter to everyone.

EA still did "manage" to collect 8 negative comments. It is known, EA is Albanian.
(Ataman, 13 April 2009 15:04)

yep, and as such he is happy to see serbs and albanians can get along. under albanian rule. at the same time, many serbs will say they are happy about this and see it as a proof that serbs and albanians can get along. under serbian rule.

it's just like saying: "i love peace. as long as it comes after i win the war."

i'd almost wish happy easter to everyone. but i am an atheist, so i won't.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

For all you sceptics who say that I don't know what I am talking about when I mention that when Serbs are a majority we have a better chance at peace, I say take a look at Serbia.
There are many minorities living there and nobody is attacked simply because they represent a small number living amongst a larger number of ethnic groups.
Take a look at Kosovo before the war. Did Serbs attack any Albanians living there because they were ruled from Belgrade? NO. It was Serbian police and civilians being constantly exposed to violence from the Albanians which prompted Milosevic to go in (albeit with a heavy hand). The Albanians living anywhere else where they are a minority are not exposed to abuse and there are many of the living in Serbia proper as well. This is reality and fully substantiates what I said. Show me where in Kosovo where Serbs are minority they can live without fear unless they are guarded by NATO.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

@ Peggy: "It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace."

You think there's peace in the North of Iber? Come on, there are 90/10% (90% Serbs and 10% Albanians) in the North of Iber and there ain't no peace!
Do the calculation again my friend because it's not the "quantity, but the quality" that matters!

I agree with Ataman in his last comment, cz when posting a such comment as EA did, there should be NO "Poor Comment" hits, but it's the stereotypes.
BTW Ataman, it's "Krishti u Ngjall". You should get a better dictionary lol (no hard feelings).

God bless the good people all over the world and Happy Easter to all of you.

Greets from Prishtina!

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

"Unfortunately the Western idea of a solution for Kosovo is still that all power should be in the hands of one side. In my opinion a big mistake. Specially in the present climate very strong minorty rights are necessary as a counterbalance"

Wim you've obviously never read the Ahtisaari Plan or the Kosovo constitution.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

That is a very good news! I wish to hear and see more like that.
Happy Easter to all!
(EA, 12 April 2009 20:19)

Recommend (+13) Poor comment (-8)

EA's comment does mean, he is happy to see less fighting, he wants even less fighting and he wishes happy Easter to everyone.

EA still did "manage" to collect 8 negative comments. It is known, EA is Albanian.

I wish not only Happy Easter ("Western" or "Orthodox" coming soon) to everyone - but also better life, more happiness and less frustration to the above eight unhappy souls.

Krishti Ungjall! / Христос воскресе!

Wim Roffel

pre 15 godina

I think that Peggy has some point when she writes "but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families."

Not that Serbs are better than Albanians or so. I think it has rather to do with balance of power. If the Albanians misbehave they will come under pressure from the Serb majority. If the Serbs misbehave they will come under pressure from the Pristina government.

Unfortunately the Western idea of a solution for Kosovo is still that all power should be in the hands of one side. In my opinion a big mistake. Specially in the present climate very strong minorty rights are necessary as a counterbalance.

Uran

pre 15 godina

What if this article was written by an Albanian journalist? Would Serbs believe it was true? What if the situation took place Presevo? Would Albanians believe B92? I highly doubt it.

Not trying to underestimate the news, but it is unfortunate that only when Serbian media talks about harmony in Kosovo, or when Kosovars talk about harmony in Presevo we tend to agree.

Denis

pre 15 godina

It's good to know that some people are living in peace. This is the way it should be but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families.
It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace.
(Peggy, 12 April 2009 23:41)

Oh Jesus, here we go again. In a country/province ruled by Albanians, 50 Albanian families can't really mussle out 110 Serbian families ..... so they are "obligated" to live in peace. If we switch numbers no peace is possible. What a logic!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

It's good to know that some people are living in peace. This is the way it should be but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families.
It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace.

ben

pre 15 godina

This is one of many good examples of normal life in Kosova.

The same BBC documentary was showing a Serbian women going out of taxi and light a candle for her husband. No KFOR soldiers escorting her as we are used to be manipulated here.

The largely accepted demographic fact of the last census where Kosova had about 2 million ppl 90% of which Albanian yet we still hear about 250,000 displaced k-Serbs in addition to the k-Serbs that already live in Kosova. Manipulation after another...

Moreover, let's not forget that Serbs an Albanians have lived in peace and harmony in Kosova for centuries.

It is the politics that is manipulating and common ppl suffer.

Compliments to B92 for this nice reportage and keep coming with others. When is less tension one can judge better.

ORTHODOX.RU

pre 15 godina

If I could I would replace Thachi and the gang with those village Albanians and also appoint their neighbour Serbs to rule our enclaves.

If I only could ...

Mike

pre 15 godina

Absolutely right, MikeC.

Politicians on both sides of the Ibar could learn something here. When not used as a tool for their own political purposes, Serbs and Albanian communities can work together when left alone.

I hope both sides will continue to live in mutual co-existence.

food

pre 15 godina

Mishkovic can only enter the market in the North of Kosovo.

He does not have ANY CHANCE in the rest of Kosovo. Even in Serbia, all electronics offered in his stores come from an Albanian company.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

More news like that would be good. Keep the sprit and cheers to these people.

There are strong rumors, Mishkovic will come to Kosovo with his food monopoly and that would mean drastic food price increases and local chains being chocked out of existence.

The rest of Kosovo should unite and do the RIGHT THING: make your footprint visible on his butt.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Perhaps politicians could learn a thing or two from these farmers. Glad to hear about "good neighborly relations" at least in some parts of Kosovo.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Perhaps politicians could learn a thing or two from these farmers. Glad to hear about "good neighborly relations" at least in some parts of Kosovo.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Absolutely right, MikeC.

Politicians on both sides of the Ibar could learn something here. When not used as a tool for their own political purposes, Serbs and Albanian communities can work together when left alone.

I hope both sides will continue to live in mutual co-existence.

ORTHODOX.RU

pre 15 godina

If I could I would replace Thachi and the gang with those village Albanians and also appoint their neighbour Serbs to rule our enclaves.

If I only could ...

Ataman

pre 15 godina

More news like that would be good. Keep the sprit and cheers to these people.

There are strong rumors, Mishkovic will come to Kosovo with his food monopoly and that would mean drastic food price increases and local chains being chocked out of existence.

The rest of Kosovo should unite and do the RIGHT THING: make your footprint visible on his butt.

ben

pre 15 godina

This is one of many good examples of normal life in Kosova.

The same BBC documentary was showing a Serbian women going out of taxi and light a candle for her husband. No KFOR soldiers escorting her as we are used to be manipulated here.

The largely accepted demographic fact of the last census where Kosova had about 2 million ppl 90% of which Albanian yet we still hear about 250,000 displaced k-Serbs in addition to the k-Serbs that already live in Kosova. Manipulation after another...

Moreover, let's not forget that Serbs an Albanians have lived in peace and harmony in Kosova for centuries.

It is the politics that is manipulating and common ppl suffer.

Compliments to B92 for this nice reportage and keep coming with others. When is less tension one can judge better.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

It's good to know that some people are living in peace. This is the way it should be but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families.
It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace.

Denis

pre 15 godina

It's good to know that some people are living in peace. This is the way it should be but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families.
It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace.
(Peggy, 12 April 2009 23:41)

Oh Jesus, here we go again. In a country/province ruled by Albanians, 50 Albanian families can't really mussle out 110 Serbian families ..... so they are "obligated" to live in peace. If we switch numbers no peace is possible. What a logic!

Ataman

pre 15 godina

That is a very good news! I wish to hear and see more like that.
Happy Easter to all!
(EA, 12 April 2009 20:19)

Recommend (+13) Poor comment (-8)

EA's comment does mean, he is happy to see less fighting, he wants even less fighting and he wishes happy Easter to everyone.

EA still did "manage" to collect 8 negative comments. It is known, EA is Albanian.

I wish not only Happy Easter ("Western" or "Orthodox" coming soon) to everyone - but also better life, more happiness and less frustration to the above eight unhappy souls.

Krishti Ungjall! / Христос воскресе!

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

"Unfortunately the Western idea of a solution for Kosovo is still that all power should be in the hands of one side. In my opinion a big mistake. Specially in the present climate very strong minorty rights are necessary as a counterbalance"

Wim you've obviously never read the Ahtisaari Plan or the Kosovo constitution.

food

pre 15 godina

Mishkovic can only enter the market in the North of Kosovo.

He does not have ANY CHANCE in the rest of Kosovo. Even in Serbia, all electronics offered in his stores come from an Albanian company.

Wim Roffel

pre 15 godina

I think that Peggy has some point when she writes "but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families."

Not that Serbs are better than Albanians or so. I think it has rather to do with balance of power. If the Albanians misbehave they will come under pressure from the Serb majority. If the Serbs misbehave they will come under pressure from the Pristina government.

Unfortunately the Western idea of a solution for Kosovo is still that all power should be in the hands of one side. In my opinion a big mistake. Specially in the present climate very strong minorty rights are necessary as a counterbalance.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

@ Peggy: "It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace."

You think there's peace in the North of Iber? Come on, there are 90/10% (90% Serbs and 10% Albanians) in the North of Iber and there ain't no peace!
Do the calculation again my friend because it's not the "quantity, but the quality" that matters!

I agree with Ataman in his last comment, cz when posting a such comment as EA did, there should be NO "Poor Comment" hits, but it's the stereotypes.
BTW Ataman, it's "Krishti u Ngjall". You should get a better dictionary lol (no hard feelings).

God bless the good people all over the world and Happy Easter to all of you.

Greets from Prishtina!

Uran

pre 15 godina

What if this article was written by an Albanian journalist? Would Serbs believe it was true? What if the situation took place Presevo? Would Albanians believe B92? I highly doubt it.

Not trying to underestimate the news, but it is unfortunate that only when Serbian media talks about harmony in Kosovo, or when Kosovars talk about harmony in Presevo we tend to agree.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

For all you sceptics who say that I don't know what I am talking about when I mention that when Serbs are a majority we have a better chance at peace, I say take a look at Serbia.
There are many minorities living there and nobody is attacked simply because they represent a small number living amongst a larger number of ethnic groups.
Take a look at Kosovo before the war. Did Serbs attack any Albanians living there because they were ruled from Belgrade? NO. It was Serbian police and civilians being constantly exposed to violence from the Albanians which prompted Milosevic to go in (albeit with a heavy hand). The Albanians living anywhere else where they are a minority are not exposed to abuse and there are many of the living in Serbia proper as well. This is reality and fully substantiates what I said. Show me where in Kosovo where Serbs are minority they can live without fear unless they are guarded by NATO.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

EA's comment does mean, he is happy to see less fighting, he wants even less fighting and he wishes happy Easter to everyone.

EA still did "manage" to collect 8 negative comments. It is known, EA is Albanian.
(Ataman, 13 April 2009 15:04)

yep, and as such he is happy to see serbs and albanians can get along. under albanian rule. at the same time, many serbs will say they are happy about this and see it as a proof that serbs and albanians can get along. under serbian rule.

it's just like saying: "i love peace. as long as it comes after i win the war."

i'd almost wish happy easter to everyone. but i am an atheist, so i won't.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Malcom x wrote,

it's just like saying: "i love peace. as long as it comes after i win the war."

That's the question I have asked on several occasions. On whose terms?
It's so noble to write that peace is wonderful because everyone agrees with it but who is going to run the show here?
On whose terms are we going to get peace? If Albanians are in charge in Pristina, the only peace we will have is when what is left of the Serbs completely submit to Albanan rule and don't ask their police to investigate who threw that last petrol bomb in their house.

BH_NYC

pre 15 godina

To: malcolm and Peggy

Dear malcolm, You are literally telling us that peace between the Serbs Albanians can only be valid if the Serbs are in charge. Thanks you for sharing your dangerous views.

Peggy, Serbs were a majority while Kosovo was a province of Serbia and it lead to war. Serbs are a majority in N. Mitrovica and that’s the most volatile part of the region at the moment.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

i'd almost wish happy easter to everyone. but i am an atheist, so i won't.
(malcolm x, 13 April 2009 23:48)

We celebrate Chinese Lunar New Year because of friends and once in a while I even observe feast on the said day - but I am not Buddhist. In the fact, I am "undecided" because I cannot declare what I can't prove.

(To say the truth: due my environment and upbringing, if I would be hard pressed, I would be either Orthodox or Buddhist).

But that does not mean, we should not celebrate what is to celebrate. One more reason to have joy in our life.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Dear malcolm, You are literally telling us that peace between the Serbs Albanians can only be valid if the Serbs are in charge. Thanks you for sharing your dangerous views.
(BH_NYC, 14 April 2009 12:37)

dear BH_NYC, this is not the first time i am confronted with your bias and prejudice. i do not say that serbs and albanians can live in peace only under serbian rule, where did you pull that from? and why would peace between serbs and albanians under serbian rule be a "dangerous" idea? what i am saying is that i do not take neither serbs nor albanians seriously who make noble proclamations about peace because that is not under dispute. both serbs and albanians want peace. hell, pretty much everyone on earth wants peace. the question is on whose terms. that's where all the conflicts come from including this one. people who say they want peace on their own terms and on their own terms only are not saying anything praise worthy. that's what i was telling you and quite literally so.

ataman, i am more than happy to celebrate every holiday available, but sometimes wishing happy holidays to others is like saying you want peace - dishonest. you should put this in the context of my entire comment.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Peggy, Serbs were a majority while Kosovo was a province of Serbia and it lead to war. Serbs are a majority in N. Mitrovica and that’s the most volatile part of the region at the moment.
(BH_NYC, 14 April 2009 12:37)

The only reason it led to war is because of Albanian greed. They want to steal someone else's territory. This would naturally lead to war.
Your argument doesn't hold water.

Wim Roffel

pre 15 godina

DimTuc, I read the Ahtisaari Plan. At first look it seems very nice and the Serbs get a lot of minority rights. But when you look where the power goes, it is all to the Albanian side. Just look at the discussions about the Serb curriculum at the schools. Obviously the Serbs need something that fits with the Serbian curriculum as many will continue their studies in Serbia (200,000 Serbs is simply not the scale to offer local courses for all subjects). Where the kosovo constitution leads we can see: closed schools (in Western Europe such an extreme measure would at least have been preceded by long juridical procedures, but not in Kosovo). The Ahtisaari Plan has a non-solution: when the Albanians and the Serbs disagree the internationals will decide. But he fails to mention criteria on which they should base their decision. And having internationals decide is not long term solution: at some point the internationals will claim that the Albanians don't need the supervision any longer.

to AO KS: with the situation North of the Ibar you have a good argument. But I don't think it has to do with quality. I think it has rather to do with the circumstances. South of the Ibar the situation is decided: even when Kosovo becomes a province of Serbia it will one with an Albanian majority and autonomy where the Serbs have to adapt themselves. North of the Ibar anything can happen: it may become part of Serbia proper, but it may also become the target of Albanization policies from Pristina and have an Albanian majority in a decade. So all these incidents are part of a bigger struggle.

food

pre 15 godina

Mishkovic can only enter the market in the North of Kosovo.

He does not have ANY CHANCE in the rest of Kosovo. Even in Serbia, all electronics offered in his stores come from an Albanian company.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

It's good to know that some people are living in peace. This is the way it should be but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families.
It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace.

ben

pre 15 godina

This is one of many good examples of normal life in Kosova.

The same BBC documentary was showing a Serbian women going out of taxi and light a candle for her husband. No KFOR soldiers escorting her as we are used to be manipulated here.

The largely accepted demographic fact of the last census where Kosova had about 2 million ppl 90% of which Albanian yet we still hear about 250,000 displaced k-Serbs in addition to the k-Serbs that already live in Kosova. Manipulation after another...

Moreover, let's not forget that Serbs an Albanians have lived in peace and harmony in Kosova for centuries.

It is the politics that is manipulating and common ppl suffer.

Compliments to B92 for this nice reportage and keep coming with others. When is less tension one can judge better.

Denis

pre 15 godina

It's good to know that some people are living in peace. This is the way it should be but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families.
It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace.
(Peggy, 12 April 2009 23:41)

Oh Jesus, here we go again. In a country/province ruled by Albanians, 50 Albanian families can't really mussle out 110 Serbian families ..... so they are "obligated" to live in peace. If we switch numbers no peace is possible. What a logic!

Peggy

pre 15 godina

For all you sceptics who say that I don't know what I am talking about when I mention that when Serbs are a majority we have a better chance at peace, I say take a look at Serbia.
There are many minorities living there and nobody is attacked simply because they represent a small number living amongst a larger number of ethnic groups.
Take a look at Kosovo before the war. Did Serbs attack any Albanians living there because they were ruled from Belgrade? NO. It was Serbian police and civilians being constantly exposed to violence from the Albanians which prompted Milosevic to go in (albeit with a heavy hand). The Albanians living anywhere else where they are a minority are not exposed to abuse and there are many of the living in Serbia proper as well. This is reality and fully substantiates what I said. Show me where in Kosovo where Serbs are minority they can live without fear unless they are guarded by NATO.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Peggy, Serbs were a majority while Kosovo was a province of Serbia and it lead to war. Serbs are a majority in N. Mitrovica and that’s the most volatile part of the region at the moment.
(BH_NYC, 14 April 2009 12:37)

The only reason it led to war is because of Albanian greed. They want to steal someone else's territory. This would naturally lead to war.
Your argument doesn't hold water.

BH_NYC

pre 15 godina

To: malcolm and Peggy

Dear malcolm, You are literally telling us that peace between the Serbs Albanians can only be valid if the Serbs are in charge. Thanks you for sharing your dangerous views.

Peggy, Serbs were a majority while Kosovo was a province of Serbia and it lead to war. Serbs are a majority in N. Mitrovica and that’s the most volatile part of the region at the moment.

ORTHODOX.RU

pre 15 godina

If I could I would replace Thachi and the gang with those village Albanians and also appoint their neighbour Serbs to rule our enclaves.

If I only could ...

DimTuc

pre 15 godina

"Unfortunately the Western idea of a solution for Kosovo is still that all power should be in the hands of one side. In my opinion a big mistake. Specially in the present climate very strong minorty rights are necessary as a counterbalance"

Wim you've obviously never read the Ahtisaari Plan or the Kosovo constitution.

Wim Roffel

pre 15 godina

I think that Peggy has some point when she writes "but I can't help but wonder if it would be possible to have this harmony if it were 50 Serbian and 110 Albanian families."

Not that Serbs are better than Albanians or so. I think it has rather to do with balance of power. If the Albanians misbehave they will come under pressure from the Serb majority. If the Serbs misbehave they will come under pressure from the Pristina government.

Unfortunately the Western idea of a solution for Kosovo is still that all power should be in the hands of one side. In my opinion a big mistake. Specially in the present climate very strong minorty rights are necessary as a counterbalance.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

@ Peggy: "It seems that only where the Serbs are a majority we have a better chance for peace."

You think there's peace in the North of Iber? Come on, there are 90/10% (90% Serbs and 10% Albanians) in the North of Iber and there ain't no peace!
Do the calculation again my friend because it's not the "quantity, but the quality" that matters!

I agree with Ataman in his last comment, cz when posting a such comment as EA did, there should be NO "Poor Comment" hits, but it's the stereotypes.
BTW Ataman, it's "Krishti u Ngjall". You should get a better dictionary lol (no hard feelings).

God bless the good people all over the world and Happy Easter to all of you.

Greets from Prishtina!

Uran

pre 15 godina

What if this article was written by an Albanian journalist? Would Serbs believe it was true? What if the situation took place Presevo? Would Albanians believe B92? I highly doubt it.

Not trying to underestimate the news, but it is unfortunate that only when Serbian media talks about harmony in Kosovo, or when Kosovars talk about harmony in Presevo we tend to agree.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

Malcom x wrote,

it's just like saying: "i love peace. as long as it comes after i win the war."

That's the question I have asked on several occasions. On whose terms?
It's so noble to write that peace is wonderful because everyone agrees with it but who is going to run the show here?
On whose terms are we going to get peace? If Albanians are in charge in Pristina, the only peace we will have is when what is left of the Serbs completely submit to Albanan rule and don't ask their police to investigate who threw that last petrol bomb in their house.

Wim Roffel

pre 15 godina

DimTuc, I read the Ahtisaari Plan. At first look it seems very nice and the Serbs get a lot of minority rights. But when you look where the power goes, it is all to the Albanian side. Just look at the discussions about the Serb curriculum at the schools. Obviously the Serbs need something that fits with the Serbian curriculum as many will continue their studies in Serbia (200,000 Serbs is simply not the scale to offer local courses for all subjects). Where the kosovo constitution leads we can see: closed schools (in Western Europe such an extreme measure would at least have been preceded by long juridical procedures, but not in Kosovo). The Ahtisaari Plan has a non-solution: when the Albanians and the Serbs disagree the internationals will decide. But he fails to mention criteria on which they should base their decision. And having internationals decide is not long term solution: at some point the internationals will claim that the Albanians don't need the supervision any longer.

to AO KS: with the situation North of the Ibar you have a good argument. But I don't think it has to do with quality. I think it has rather to do with the circumstances. South of the Ibar the situation is decided: even when Kosovo becomes a province of Serbia it will one with an Albanian majority and autonomy where the Serbs have to adapt themselves. North of the Ibar anything can happen: it may become part of Serbia proper, but it may also become the target of Albanization policies from Pristina and have an Albanian majority in a decade. So all these incidents are part of a bigger struggle.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

Dear malcolm, You are literally telling us that peace between the Serbs Albanians can only be valid if the Serbs are in charge. Thanks you for sharing your dangerous views.
(BH_NYC, 14 April 2009 12:37)

dear BH_NYC, this is not the first time i am confronted with your bias and prejudice. i do not say that serbs and albanians can live in peace only under serbian rule, where did you pull that from? and why would peace between serbs and albanians under serbian rule be a "dangerous" idea? what i am saying is that i do not take neither serbs nor albanians seriously who make noble proclamations about peace because that is not under dispute. both serbs and albanians want peace. hell, pretty much everyone on earth wants peace. the question is on whose terms. that's where all the conflicts come from including this one. people who say they want peace on their own terms and on their own terms only are not saying anything praise worthy. that's what i was telling you and quite literally so.

ataman, i am more than happy to celebrate every holiday available, but sometimes wishing happy holidays to others is like saying you want peace - dishonest. you should put this in the context of my entire comment.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

EA's comment does mean, he is happy to see less fighting, he wants even less fighting and he wishes happy Easter to everyone.

EA still did "manage" to collect 8 negative comments. It is known, EA is Albanian.
(Ataman, 13 April 2009 15:04)

yep, and as such he is happy to see serbs and albanians can get along. under albanian rule. at the same time, many serbs will say they are happy about this and see it as a proof that serbs and albanians can get along. under serbian rule.

it's just like saying: "i love peace. as long as it comes after i win the war."

i'd almost wish happy easter to everyone. but i am an atheist, so i won't.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

More news like that would be good. Keep the sprit and cheers to these people.

There are strong rumors, Mishkovic will come to Kosovo with his food monopoly and that would mean drastic food price increases and local chains being chocked out of existence.

The rest of Kosovo should unite and do the RIGHT THING: make your footprint visible on his butt.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Absolutely right, MikeC.

Politicians on both sides of the Ibar could learn something here. When not used as a tool for their own political purposes, Serbs and Albanian communities can work together when left alone.

I hope both sides will continue to live in mutual co-existence.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

Perhaps politicians could learn a thing or two from these farmers. Glad to hear about "good neighborly relations" at least in some parts of Kosovo.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

That is a very good news! I wish to hear and see more like that.
Happy Easter to all!
(EA, 12 April 2009 20:19)

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EA's comment does mean, he is happy to see less fighting, he wants even less fighting and he wishes happy Easter to everyone.

EA still did "manage" to collect 8 negative comments. It is known, EA is Albanian.

I wish not only Happy Easter ("Western" or "Orthodox" coming soon) to everyone - but also better life, more happiness and less frustration to the above eight unhappy souls.

Krishti Ungjall! / Христос воскресе!

Ataman

pre 15 godina

i'd almost wish happy easter to everyone. but i am an atheist, so i won't.
(malcolm x, 13 April 2009 23:48)

We celebrate Chinese Lunar New Year because of friends and once in a while I even observe feast on the said day - but I am not Buddhist. In the fact, I am "undecided" because I cannot declare what I can't prove.

(To say the truth: due my environment and upbringing, if I would be hard pressed, I would be either Orthodox or Buddhist).

But that does not mean, we should not celebrate what is to celebrate. One more reason to have joy in our life.