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Friday, 27.03.2009.

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Key deal struck with Valley Albanians

After a three-year absence, Albanians from southern Serbia have returned to the Coordination Body for Preševo, Bujanovac and Medveđa.

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JC

pre 15 godina

This agreement is commendable, regardless of the reason.

Johny you will wake up one day and realize that you were used only for the self-interest of NATO.

johny

pre 15 godina

Ron, the Kurds can stay in Iraq as long as they want. So can Tibet in China. We're neither Tibetians nor Kurds. We have the backing of the most powerfull and advanced societies on earth. We have what we have because they back our aspirations. Simple as that.
Kurds and Tibet doesn't have what they want cause they don't have the backing of the most powerful societies on earth. Let me know if you want it in simpler terms. The most powerful nations on earth make the laws, and execute them.
Also there is no such thing as an illegal declaration. I can declare whatever I want. You can declare whatever you want. Declarations are not legal or illegal, they're just declarations. This is just a stupid notion created by the Serb state hoping it would stick in people's minds, for propaganda reasons. Get a chill pill, states are created all the time. Borders change all the time. There is nothing special about another state being created as you'd want people to believe. The Serbian state played its card very stupidly, hence we have another state. Its a simple as that. It happens all the time.

Michael John

pre 15 godina

JovanZ,

Desperate words in desperate times. The Kosova Serbs find themselves, once again, between a rock and a hard place. Russian platitudes will not pay electric bills or put food on the table. Isn't it about time that you accept being good citizens of Kosova so you can flourish along with the Albanians. Why can't we all just get along!

JovanZ

pre 15 godina

Denis I will excuse your comments as coming from someone with only a superficial knowledge of the current situation and the history of geopolitics and Serbia.

You made a few false comments but let us focus on this.
"They can use Presevo Albanians to make trouble in Serbia but they don't."

Actually they did and do.Serbia liquidated terrorists there in 2001 and the Serbian border police are shot at by Albanians that then run away into Kosovo-Metohija so they do not get killed.The Serbian police and military have done an amazing job at not retaliating.Serbia has been pushed into a position where she cannot be judged by normal stadards.Our children were bombed in 1995 and 1999 ,we have lost a lot of land and we are being hunted and exterminated in Kosovo.We have the worst case of genocide since WW2 being systematically destroyed by the terrorist government in Kosmet thanks to German and American backing.Lets put things in perspective we have been labled with genocide in Bosnia for protecting our land from mujaheedenn and resurgent Croat Nationalism and every time a foreign power has invaded the Balkans that gave the Croats,Muslims and Albanians free reign to kill Serbs at will and with NO revenge.The people of Serbia have been pushed to far.How can you expect us to treat Albanians with law and order when they continue to commit genocide and cultural genocide in Serbia? The Albanians have no right to demand anything until they can provide Serbs with basic rights.Remember standards before status? We Serbs have not forgotten and we are well past the point of forgiveness.Our enemies thrive while our hands are tied behind our back by NATO.
How much longer will this go on before we explode?

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

By insisting on an independent Kosovo you block EVERY progress.

People like you are indeed to blame for problems like the ones in Kosovo.

I mean, if Kosovo can become independent illegally why we shouldn't allow South Ossetia and Tibet do do so?

The day people like you will understand that nationalism is the real problem we can start tackling the real problems.

EA,

Can you accept Kosovo being part of Serbia?

Like Germans in Eastern Belgium are part of Belgium?

Ron

pre 15 godina

Denis,

Both sides made mistakes. The Albanians could win major goodwill of the world by staying in Serbia.

Hey, why should Kurds stay in Iraq by the way?

Alban

pre 15 godina

"I guess when larger external powers are not using Serbs and Albanians as their own pawns in Realpolitik, they can actually mete out their differences."

Do you think this signing is a coincidence after 10 years of saying no? NOPE.
- Serbia got IMF money and maybe EU aid
- Serbs in Silovo sit to negotiate and got their power back
- Albanians in Presheva sign a deal. Now expect Belgrade to totally cut the funding for the parallel institutions and silently tell them to integrate with the Ahtisaari plan.

Denis

pre 15 godina

Kosovo Serbs have double the rights, but they do not want them. Unlike Presevo Albanians they refuse to participate in Kosovo institutions and are always used by Serbia to destibilize Kosovo.

Albanians are not paying them back with the same coin. They can use Presevo Albanians to make trouble in Serbia but they don't.

Again another sign that Albanians, although demonized by Serbia has always been more moderate when it comes to dealing with Serbia, just like when they tried to negotiate about Kosovo status under Rugova.

Seems like Serbia has learned the lesson now, but apparently after incurring some losses.

Mike

pre 15 godina

"how on earth is such a thing possible? Albanians and Serbians getting along and talking to each other, solving their problems peacfully. I must have awaken in an alternate universe because every thing in the reagular universe suggests that Albanians and Serbians cannot resolve their own problems."

I guess when larger external powers are not using Serbs and Albanians as their own pawns in Realpolitik, they can actually mete out their differences.

EA

pre 15 godina

Mike C,

What is wrong to seriously talking to Albanians living in Preseva, Bujanonc and Medvegja.

I can see that all you are interested is war because you don't live in Kosova. All you want is a show and sent the ordinary people to fight on your behalf. Same rights for Albanians living in Preseva, Bujanonc and Medvegja to Serbian minority living in Kosova and other way around. Not a rocket science. Friendship agreement between Kosova and Serbia to be implemented as two independent countries, free movement of goods and people etc etc.

Ron

pre 15 godina

All sides (!) in Kosovo can learn from this: start real negoatiations and accept that there will be no new borders and no new states!

Let's end this awful chapter!

moxie

pre 15 godina

how on earth is such a thing possible? Albanians and Serbians getting along and talking to each other, solving their problems peacfully. I must have awaken in an alternate universe because every thing in the reagular universe suggests that Albanians and Serbians cannot resolve their own problems.
Hmmm... Whatever the case of universes might be, in which ever one we're in I congratulate these groups on rising above the well know falicies attached to these two groups of people.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

"the whole process will be monitored and coordinated by the OSCE mission."

I'm just wondering if anyone is monitoring the developments and the treatment of Serbs in Kosovo? Probably not!
Way to go Serbia! Just keep giving Albanians rights in Presevo while your own people in Kosovo have been given only one right by the albanians: the right to be exterminated.
The current Serbian government is more anti-Serb than the Snake and the clownes surrounding him.

EA

pre 15 godina

Mike C,

What is wrong to seriously talking to Albanians living in Preseva, Bujanonc and Medvegja.

I can see that all you are interested is war because you don't live in Kosova. All you want is a show and sent the ordinary people to fight on your behalf. Same rights for Albanians living in Preseva, Bujanonc and Medvegja to Serbian minority living in Kosova and other way around. Not a rocket science. Friendship agreement between Kosova and Serbia to be implemented as two independent countries, free movement of goods and people etc etc.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

"the whole process will be monitored and coordinated by the OSCE mission."

I'm just wondering if anyone is monitoring the developments and the treatment of Serbs in Kosovo? Probably not!
Way to go Serbia! Just keep giving Albanians rights in Presevo while your own people in Kosovo have been given only one right by the albanians: the right to be exterminated.
The current Serbian government is more anti-Serb than the Snake and the clownes surrounding him.

Ron

pre 15 godina

All sides (!) in Kosovo can learn from this: start real negoatiations and accept that there will be no new borders and no new states!

Let's end this awful chapter!

moxie

pre 15 godina

how on earth is such a thing possible? Albanians and Serbians getting along and talking to each other, solving their problems peacfully. I must have awaken in an alternate universe because every thing in the reagular universe suggests that Albanians and Serbians cannot resolve their own problems.
Hmmm... Whatever the case of universes might be, in which ever one we're in I congratulate these groups on rising above the well know falicies attached to these two groups of people.

Mike

pre 15 godina

"how on earth is such a thing possible? Albanians and Serbians getting along and talking to each other, solving their problems peacfully. I must have awaken in an alternate universe because every thing in the reagular universe suggests that Albanians and Serbians cannot resolve their own problems."

I guess when larger external powers are not using Serbs and Albanians as their own pawns in Realpolitik, they can actually mete out their differences.

Denis

pre 15 godina

Kosovo Serbs have double the rights, but they do not want them. Unlike Presevo Albanians they refuse to participate in Kosovo institutions and are always used by Serbia to destibilize Kosovo.

Albanians are not paying them back with the same coin. They can use Presevo Albanians to make trouble in Serbia but they don't.

Again another sign that Albanians, although demonized by Serbia has always been more moderate when it comes to dealing with Serbia, just like when they tried to negotiate about Kosovo status under Rugova.

Seems like Serbia has learned the lesson now, but apparently after incurring some losses.

Alban

pre 15 godina

"I guess when larger external powers are not using Serbs and Albanians as their own pawns in Realpolitik, they can actually mete out their differences."

Do you think this signing is a coincidence after 10 years of saying no? NOPE.
- Serbia got IMF money and maybe EU aid
- Serbs in Silovo sit to negotiate and got their power back
- Albanians in Presheva sign a deal. Now expect Belgrade to totally cut the funding for the parallel institutions and silently tell them to integrate with the Ahtisaari plan.

JovanZ

pre 15 godina

Denis I will excuse your comments as coming from someone with only a superficial knowledge of the current situation and the history of geopolitics and Serbia.

You made a few false comments but let us focus on this.
"They can use Presevo Albanians to make trouble in Serbia but they don't."

Actually they did and do.Serbia liquidated terrorists there in 2001 and the Serbian border police are shot at by Albanians that then run away into Kosovo-Metohija so they do not get killed.The Serbian police and military have done an amazing job at not retaliating.Serbia has been pushed into a position where she cannot be judged by normal stadards.Our children were bombed in 1995 and 1999 ,we have lost a lot of land and we are being hunted and exterminated in Kosovo.We have the worst case of genocide since WW2 being systematically destroyed by the terrorist government in Kosmet thanks to German and American backing.Lets put things in perspective we have been labled with genocide in Bosnia for protecting our land from mujaheedenn and resurgent Croat Nationalism and every time a foreign power has invaded the Balkans that gave the Croats,Muslims and Albanians free reign to kill Serbs at will and with NO revenge.The people of Serbia have been pushed to far.How can you expect us to treat Albanians with law and order when they continue to commit genocide and cultural genocide in Serbia? The Albanians have no right to demand anything until they can provide Serbs with basic rights.Remember standards before status? We Serbs have not forgotten and we are well past the point of forgiveness.Our enemies thrive while our hands are tied behind our back by NATO.
How much longer will this go on before we explode?

Michael John

pre 15 godina

JovanZ,

Desperate words in desperate times. The Kosova Serbs find themselves, once again, between a rock and a hard place. Russian platitudes will not pay electric bills or put food on the table. Isn't it about time that you accept being good citizens of Kosova so you can flourish along with the Albanians. Why can't we all just get along!

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

By insisting on an independent Kosovo you block EVERY progress.

People like you are indeed to blame for problems like the ones in Kosovo.

I mean, if Kosovo can become independent illegally why we shouldn't allow South Ossetia and Tibet do do so?

The day people like you will understand that nationalism is the real problem we can start tackling the real problems.

EA,

Can you accept Kosovo being part of Serbia?

Like Germans in Eastern Belgium are part of Belgium?

Ron

pre 15 godina

Denis,

Both sides made mistakes. The Albanians could win major goodwill of the world by staying in Serbia.

Hey, why should Kurds stay in Iraq by the way?

johny

pre 15 godina

Ron, the Kurds can stay in Iraq as long as they want. So can Tibet in China. We're neither Tibetians nor Kurds. We have the backing of the most powerfull and advanced societies on earth. We have what we have because they back our aspirations. Simple as that.
Kurds and Tibet doesn't have what they want cause they don't have the backing of the most powerful societies on earth. Let me know if you want it in simpler terms. The most powerful nations on earth make the laws, and execute them.
Also there is no such thing as an illegal declaration. I can declare whatever I want. You can declare whatever you want. Declarations are not legal or illegal, they're just declarations. This is just a stupid notion created by the Serb state hoping it would stick in people's minds, for propaganda reasons. Get a chill pill, states are created all the time. Borders change all the time. There is nothing special about another state being created as you'd want people to believe. The Serbian state played its card very stupidly, hence we have another state. Its a simple as that. It happens all the time.

JC

pre 15 godina

This agreement is commendable, regardless of the reason.

Johny you will wake up one day and realize that you were used only for the self-interest of NATO.

MikeC

pre 15 godina

"the whole process will be monitored and coordinated by the OSCE mission."

I'm just wondering if anyone is monitoring the developments and the treatment of Serbs in Kosovo? Probably not!
Way to go Serbia! Just keep giving Albanians rights in Presevo while your own people in Kosovo have been given only one right by the albanians: the right to be exterminated.
The current Serbian government is more anti-Serb than the Snake and the clownes surrounding him.

Ron

pre 15 godina

All sides (!) in Kosovo can learn from this: start real negoatiations and accept that there will be no new borders and no new states!

Let's end this awful chapter!

EA

pre 15 godina

Mike C,

What is wrong to seriously talking to Albanians living in Preseva, Bujanonc and Medvegja.

I can see that all you are interested is war because you don't live in Kosova. All you want is a show and sent the ordinary people to fight on your behalf. Same rights for Albanians living in Preseva, Bujanonc and Medvegja to Serbian minority living in Kosova and other way around. Not a rocket science. Friendship agreement between Kosova and Serbia to be implemented as two independent countries, free movement of goods and people etc etc.

Denis

pre 15 godina

Kosovo Serbs have double the rights, but they do not want them. Unlike Presevo Albanians they refuse to participate in Kosovo institutions and are always used by Serbia to destibilize Kosovo.

Albanians are not paying them back with the same coin. They can use Presevo Albanians to make trouble in Serbia but they don't.

Again another sign that Albanians, although demonized by Serbia has always been more moderate when it comes to dealing with Serbia, just like when they tried to negotiate about Kosovo status under Rugova.

Seems like Serbia has learned the lesson now, but apparently after incurring some losses.

JovanZ

pre 15 godina

Denis I will excuse your comments as coming from someone with only a superficial knowledge of the current situation and the history of geopolitics and Serbia.

You made a few false comments but let us focus on this.
"They can use Presevo Albanians to make trouble in Serbia but they don't."

Actually they did and do.Serbia liquidated terrorists there in 2001 and the Serbian border police are shot at by Albanians that then run away into Kosovo-Metohija so they do not get killed.The Serbian police and military have done an amazing job at not retaliating.Serbia has been pushed into a position where she cannot be judged by normal stadards.Our children were bombed in 1995 and 1999 ,we have lost a lot of land and we are being hunted and exterminated in Kosovo.We have the worst case of genocide since WW2 being systematically destroyed by the terrorist government in Kosmet thanks to German and American backing.Lets put things in perspective we have been labled with genocide in Bosnia for protecting our land from mujaheedenn and resurgent Croat Nationalism and every time a foreign power has invaded the Balkans that gave the Croats,Muslims and Albanians free reign to kill Serbs at will and with NO revenge.The people of Serbia have been pushed to far.How can you expect us to treat Albanians with law and order when they continue to commit genocide and cultural genocide in Serbia? The Albanians have no right to demand anything until they can provide Serbs with basic rights.Remember standards before status? We Serbs have not forgotten and we are well past the point of forgiveness.Our enemies thrive while our hands are tied behind our back by NATO.
How much longer will this go on before we explode?

Alban

pre 15 godina

"I guess when larger external powers are not using Serbs and Albanians as their own pawns in Realpolitik, they can actually mete out their differences."

Do you think this signing is a coincidence after 10 years of saying no? NOPE.
- Serbia got IMF money and maybe EU aid
- Serbs in Silovo sit to negotiate and got their power back
- Albanians in Presheva sign a deal. Now expect Belgrade to totally cut the funding for the parallel institutions and silently tell them to integrate with the Ahtisaari plan.

Mike

pre 15 godina

"how on earth is such a thing possible? Albanians and Serbians getting along and talking to each other, solving their problems peacfully. I must have awaken in an alternate universe because every thing in the reagular universe suggests that Albanians and Serbians cannot resolve their own problems."

I guess when larger external powers are not using Serbs and Albanians as their own pawns in Realpolitik, they can actually mete out their differences.

Michael John

pre 15 godina

JovanZ,

Desperate words in desperate times. The Kosova Serbs find themselves, once again, between a rock and a hard place. Russian platitudes will not pay electric bills or put food on the table. Isn't it about time that you accept being good citizens of Kosova so you can flourish along with the Albanians. Why can't we all just get along!

moxie

pre 15 godina

how on earth is such a thing possible? Albanians and Serbians getting along and talking to each other, solving their problems peacfully. I must have awaken in an alternate universe because every thing in the reagular universe suggests that Albanians and Serbians cannot resolve their own problems.
Hmmm... Whatever the case of universes might be, in which ever one we're in I congratulate these groups on rising above the well know falicies attached to these two groups of people.

Ron

pre 15 godina

EA,

By insisting on an independent Kosovo you block EVERY progress.

People like you are indeed to blame for problems like the ones in Kosovo.

I mean, if Kosovo can become independent illegally why we shouldn't allow South Ossetia and Tibet do do so?

The day people like you will understand that nationalism is the real problem we can start tackling the real problems.

EA,

Can you accept Kosovo being part of Serbia?

Like Germans in Eastern Belgium are part of Belgium?

Ron

pre 15 godina

Denis,

Both sides made mistakes. The Albanians could win major goodwill of the world by staying in Serbia.

Hey, why should Kurds stay in Iraq by the way?

johny

pre 15 godina

Ron, the Kurds can stay in Iraq as long as they want. So can Tibet in China. We're neither Tibetians nor Kurds. We have the backing of the most powerfull and advanced societies on earth. We have what we have because they back our aspirations. Simple as that.
Kurds and Tibet doesn't have what they want cause they don't have the backing of the most powerful societies on earth. Let me know if you want it in simpler terms. The most powerful nations on earth make the laws, and execute them.
Also there is no such thing as an illegal declaration. I can declare whatever I want. You can declare whatever you want. Declarations are not legal or illegal, they're just declarations. This is just a stupid notion created by the Serb state hoping it would stick in people's minds, for propaganda reasons. Get a chill pill, states are created all the time. Borders change all the time. There is nothing special about another state being created as you'd want people to believe. The Serbian state played its card very stupidly, hence we have another state. Its a simple as that. It happens all the time.

JC

pre 15 godina

This agreement is commendable, regardless of the reason.

Johny you will wake up one day and realize that you were used only for the self-interest of NATO.