Pajtić happy with Vojvodina jurisdictions law

It is time for Vojvodina to decide its own fate.

MikeC,

The only problem with that logic is, that the only who are actively pushing for Vojvodina independence (64 Counties movement with L.T.) are even more anti-American anti-Russian and anti-Semite than anti-Serb.

It would be mildly speaking bizarre picture. Even more bizarre is, their biggest political allies are precisely the ones who were recently locked up in Belgrade for smashing the windows of Mc Donald's.

You can call that fact probably "(jail)birds of feather (f)lock together".

And the fears are based on few Albanian "eTrolls" + some guys in Magyar Gárda? I understand, Serbs are paranoic after what happened with Kosovo, but as said, Vojvodina is not Kosovo and in the case of Vojvodina the real centrifugal forces are some pathetic losers.

To Luciano: as already said, Hungarians are only a relatively small part of the issue. I feel, everyone want to get some part of that soup and it's mostly local Vojvodina-Serbs who want to be as close to the kettle as possible. It's about the money, not "separatism". From Hungarian point of view this is so insignificant, no one does mention it here (in the "mother country"). Forget it. But the fear-mongering does work, as I see. We are not the tools of some Albanian trolls or populist Serb politicians, please let us in peace.

"We want to carry out projects pertaining to industrial development, the economic sector and agriculture, efficiently and responsibly," the first minister said.

Serbs throughout Serbia and especially in Beograd have to realize what's really going on here. Germany, Austria, and a number of other EU countries have already purchased a great amount of Vojvodina's farmland, as well as industries....and these foreign countries want to directly deal with a smaller, weaker Vojvodina, rather than Serbia. It is to the advantage of the EU countries and corporations (with NO advantage to Serbia)- hence the "shadow intervention". When will all this foreign intervention STOP? Only when the Serbs begin to realize that the EU "puppetmasters" are NOT the "friends" that they appear to be. Vojvodina is also SERBIA!!!

Outsiders are continuing to interfere in Serbias domestic affairs and have also done so in the past. If you don't know why there were wars in the Balkans, you know now. It's not a secret that the Americans and the brits want to weaken Serbia and thereby making it more cooperative and submissive. Just as they have done with Croatia and Kosovo. However, this time the US/UK will find it difficult to come up with an excuses to occupy Vojvodina. They will try, but they will also fail.
RS is doing everything right. Let the Russians in and then we'll see how anxious the Yanks are to interfear

Why do only 7 million people in Serbia(not counting Kosovo)need 2 parliaments?Is it because the MPs in Belgrade do not speak Hungarian?How many parliaments does France have?There are more Arabic speaking people in France than there are Hungarian,Romanian etc.speakers all combined in Serbia and yet France does not see fit to make Arabic an official language on any part of its territory.It is time for you Serbs to hold on tight to what you have left.Enough is enough.

why is it that Serbia (and the Former Jugoslavia) is the only European country where the a unique standard of "people should determine their own situation" rhetoric is applied to. Do not the vast number of Turks in Germany have this same right? Do not the large number of Moorish descendents have this same right in France, and Spain and Portugal? Do not the Scots and Irish and Welsh (who all have their own national football team) have this right too? How about the vast migrations of Poles, Romanians and Hungarians across Western Europe, do they too not have this singularly hypocritical democratic right of self determination? Do the native Americans, throughout the Americas, have this right aswell, or how about Quebec from Canada, or the Mexicans in USA (5 of the SW states were stolen in war from Mexico, and they still have a stricklingly large percentage of the population of these states). What of the Kurds in Turkey and Iraq and Syria? What of the Palestinians?
Or is it just the peoples of Jugoslavia, but moreover the peoples within Serbia. The Serbian peoples within Croatia, and Bosnia were not granted this so-called right and a subsequent civil war (where both sides were backed by powerful backers) erupted. The Albanians in Seriba were given this right, and now this so-called right is being given to Vojvodina's citizens.

See, this is the powderkeg that you're all willing to open, but you're all not willing to extend the same so-called rights to the minorities within your own nation. It is clear that if Germany, Spain, France, UK, or any soverign nation looses a part of it's land than that nation has been hurt. The larger the land, and industry the larger the pain.
If every minority was granted this right the world order would collapse under it's own selfindulgent weight. The endless potential for continual subsplitting could easily destroy the concepts of modern nationhood. We could be left with city states all over the place, where East Hamburg is a Turkish country and North Belgrade is a Hungarian country, etc...

It is time to respect a country's soverignty and borders with all the respect that you ask of others to regard your own borders.
When I hear Germany offering their land, or UK releasing their noose over their sub-kingdoms, or the USA returning massive swaths of land to the Native American nations that once lived there, then I will accept a push for a further split of what was once a glorious country. I can expect to wait a long while for that, so I won't hold my breath.

At the end of the day, in this modern Europe experiment, if you've found yourself in a country you no longer wish to be a part of, maybe you might consider moving to a country you'd rather be a part of.

That's how it works.

1) Some immigrants from south Serbia begin to cry wolf and punch Serbs in nose.

2) Serbs are already worried because of insanity not-so-far past and are easy to bring to a BASELESS paranoia

As explained million times and here is the million first:

NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE VOJVODINA.

The only ones who speak seriously about that are Albanian "eTrolls" for one single reason: TROLLING.

"Vojvodina je Srbija", "Kosovo je Srbija" - but "Vojvodina je Kosovo" - NOT!!!

It is time for Vojvodina to decide its own fate.

"We want to carry out projects pertaining to industrial development, the economic sector and agriculture, efficiently and responsibly," the first minister said.

Serbs throughout Serbia and especially in Beograd have to realize what's really going on here. Germany, Austria, and a number of other EU countries have already purchased a great amount of Vojvodina's farmland, as well as industries....and these foreign countries want to directly deal with a smaller, weaker Vojvodina, rather than Serbia. It is to the advantage of the EU countries and corporations (with NO advantage to Serbia)- hence the "shadow intervention". When will all this foreign intervention STOP? Only when the Serbs begin to realize that the EU "puppetmasters" are NOT the "friends" that they appear to be. Vojvodina is also SERBIA!!!

That's how it works.

1) Some immigrants from south Serbia begin to cry wolf and punch Serbs in nose.

2) Serbs are already worried because of insanity not-so-far past and are easy to bring to a BASELESS paranoia

As explained million times and here is the million first:

NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE VOJVODINA.

The only ones who speak seriously about that are Albanian "eTrolls" for one single reason: TROLLING.

"Vojvodina je Srbija", "Kosovo je Srbija" - but "Vojvodina je Kosovo" - NOT!!!

why is it that Serbia (and the Former Jugoslavia) is the only European country where the a unique standard of "people should determine their own situation" rhetoric is applied to. Do not the vast number of Turks in Germany have this same right? Do not the large number of Moorish descendents have this same right in France, and Spain and Portugal? Do not the Scots and Irish and Welsh (who all have their own national football team) have this right too? How about the vast migrations of Poles, Romanians and Hungarians across Western Europe, do they too not have this singularly hypocritical democratic right of self determination? Do the native Americans, throughout the Americas, have this right aswell, or how about Quebec from Canada, or the Mexicans in USA (5 of the SW states were stolen in war from Mexico, and they still have a stricklingly large percentage of the population of these states). What of the Kurds in Turkey and Iraq and Syria? What of the Palestinians?
Or is it just the peoples of Jugoslavia, but moreover the peoples within Serbia. The Serbian peoples within Croatia, and Bosnia were not granted this so-called right and a subsequent civil war (where both sides were backed by powerful backers) erupted. The Albanians in Seriba were given this right, and now this so-called right is being given to Vojvodina's citizens.

See, this is the powderkeg that you're all willing to open, but you're all not willing to extend the same so-called rights to the minorities within your own nation. It is clear that if Germany, Spain, France, UK, or any soverign nation looses a part of it's land than that nation has been hurt. The larger the land, and industry the larger the pain.
If every minority was granted this right the world order would collapse under it's own selfindulgent weight. The endless potential for continual subsplitting could easily destroy the concepts of modern nationhood. We could be left with city states all over the place, where East Hamburg is a Turkish country and North Belgrade is a Hungarian country, etc...

It is time to respect a country's soverignty and borders with all the respect that you ask of others to regard your own borders.
When I hear Germany offering their land, or UK releasing their noose over their sub-kingdoms, or the USA returning massive swaths of land to the Native American nations that once lived there, then I will accept a push for a further split of what was once a glorious country. I can expect to wait a long while for that, so I won't hold my breath.

At the end of the day, in this modern Europe experiment, if you've found yourself in a country you no longer wish to be a part of, maybe you might consider moving to a country you'd rather be a part of.

Why do only 7 million people in Serbia(not counting Kosovo)need 2 parliaments?Is it because the MPs in Belgrade do not speak Hungarian?How many parliaments does France have?There are more Arabic speaking people in France than there are Hungarian,Romanian etc.speakers all combined in Serbia and yet France does not see fit to make Arabic an official language on any part of its territory.It is time for you Serbs to hold on tight to what you have left.Enough is enough.

MikeC,

The only problem with that logic is, that the only who are actively pushing for Vojvodina independence (64 Counties movement with L.T.) are even more anti-American anti-Russian and anti-Semite than anti-Serb.

It would be mildly speaking bizarre picture. Even more bizarre is, their biggest political allies are precisely the ones who were recently locked up in Belgrade for smashing the windows of Mc Donald's.

You can call that fact probably "(jail)birds of feather (f)lock together".

And the fears are based on few Albanian "eTrolls" + some guys in Magyar Gárda? I understand, Serbs are paranoic after what happened with Kosovo, but as said, Vojvodina is not Kosovo and in the case of Vojvodina the real centrifugal forces are some pathetic losers.

To Luciano: as already said, Hungarians are only a relatively small part of the issue. I feel, everyone want to get some part of that soup and it's mostly local Vojvodina-Serbs who want to be as close to the kettle as possible. It's about the money, not "separatism". From Hungarian point of view this is so insignificant, no one does mention it here (in the "mother country"). Forget it. But the fear-mongering does work, as I see. We are not the tools of some Albanian trolls or populist Serb politicians, please let us in peace.

Outsiders are continuing to interfere in Serbias domestic affairs and have also done so in the past. If you don't know why there were wars in the Balkans, you know now. It's not a secret that the Americans and the brits want to weaken Serbia and thereby making it more cooperative and submissive. Just as they have done with Croatia and Kosovo. However, this time the US/UK will find it difficult to come up with an excuses to occupy Vojvodina. They will try, but they will also fail.
RS is doing everything right. Let the Russians in and then we'll see how anxious the Yanks are to interfear