7 injured, 30 arrested at anti-NATO protest

SiriusBlack,

Why do you Albanians have to sling-mud at every opportunity? There were no Albanians involved.

Let me throw a little mud right back. . .

Do you know what's even more sad?

* having a terrorist as a "prime minister"
* destroying ancient churches and monasteries in Europe
* raping nuns
* machine-gunning small kids
* harvesting organs
* preventing medicine from reaching hospitals
* cutting electricity to homes

Beating up a cameraman and destroying windows at a McDonald's is silly and juvenile but it pales in comparison to what is perpetrated in Kosovo by Albanians on an almost daily basis.

I wonder if these youths that were smashing the McDonald's restaurants were wearing their NIKE sneakers...hypocrites!!

This was sadly predictable. I didn't watch them try again to smash up Belgrade this time, but a friend was there.
He told me that the crowd consisted of Milosevic supporters, radical cetniks, obraz, classic hooligans and a smaller minority of radical party supporters.

The lesson we learn every time is that whenever the ultra right wing take to the streets in Serbia violence and law breaking follows.

In cases where its obvious what is going to follow the police should cordon off the protest from the beginning.

Instead of the headlines being about the families of the victims of NATO bombardment, the rent a mob again disgust us with their violence.

Shame on those that force violence on innocent people, whether that is large scale or small scale.

[The crowd chanted “Give Us Weapons!“]

Now, where have I heard that before. Let me think. Ah, yes I know. It was the usual slogan during late 1980's rallies and protests all around former Yugoslavia. We all know what followed. Sad, really sad indeed.

God bless ...

It is a shame that such an important day in Serb diary should be marked by violence. The organizers should try and discourage such a behavior.

Here in UK I have seen so many protests. Majority pass without any incident.

I can not understand why pleple can not bring their point acress without violence.

This is not to criticise youth of Serbia of whom majority are more than good people. It is the minority who give our people a bad name.

I recall a young boy who died in believe American embassy during riots. He was a boy displaced from Kosovo. No doubt had high feelings but am sure his intentions were not bad. After all his been through what a tragic death. And what about his parents who cry at his grave day in and day out!

The crowd chanted “Give Us Weapons!“ and lit firecrackers.

Maybe they are foxhunters....)

You Serbs should forget about Russia. Serbia will have no future if she remains outside the EU.

I am looking forward to the Romania-Serbia football match on Saturday. I hope Romania will win the match.

EA: "The crowd chanted “Give Us Weapons!“ and lit firecrackers.
Maybe they are foxhunters."

Where do you live, EA?!
Foxhunters in the UK may get a little rowdy at times (as Mr Oscar Wilde said: "The unspeakable pursuing the inedible") but I can't imagine them lighting firecrackers and shouting for weapons.

Dear me no.

I am really sorry for the mind of people who can not think about peace and prosperity. Hate leads to nothing, war leads to distruction, reconciliation and peace leads to a bright future... I invite ballkan people to rethink all what happened in the past, be able to ask forgiveness and to forgive and to go to an other civilized future. Extremists are forgeting that they have "cancelled" already the life and future of lot of young people, they have "cancelled" even their own future.
Conclusion:
Dear ballkanas, if you do not seat down with your neighbours and solve your problems, do not wait that the others will solve better, so simply the others come there and solve three times harder than you could do.
Peace for All!

it strikes me as frustratingly ironic that a demonstration against violence towards Serbs is staged using violence against Serbs. When will people learn that this kind of negative publicity is so amazingly counter productive. By all means demonstrate but do it in an adult and reasoned way.

Do you know what's even more sad?

* having a terrorist as a "prime minister"
* destroying ancient churches and monasteries in Europe
* raping nuns
* machine-gunning small kids
* harvesting organs
* preventing medicine from reaching hospitals
* cutting electricity to homes

Hey Nemanja. I agree that all things on your list sound rather bad, but I am not sure they are true though. In fact, they are all lies propagated by the current Serbian regime which is unfortunately spoon feading the likes of you. I am sure you'd agree that is so very sad.

If it doesn't, generations of young Serbian children growing up today in Serbia, will not thank you nor the current regime (and those preceading the current one) when they grow up for spreading lies in their name. They deserve a chance to become part of free Europe too.

You'll always find a handful of extremist retards in any society. Fourtunately, that's all they are here now, a handful.

If the government provided and organized a somber protest to mark the occasion as a day of remembrance for all the citizens of Serbia; peoople would not be attracted to the hooligan protest.

Instead the minister of defense talks about the fox guarding the hen house (Serbia joining its Nato enemies) and people become seduced by the hooligan element.

When their is no one worth following, people follow the worthless

#8.
I wonder if these youths that were smashing the McDonald's restaurants were wearing their NIKE sneakers...hypocrites!!
(Dino Hamilton, Canada, 25 March 2009 13:59)

NIKE is made in China Anyway and don't call Serbs hypocrites, As we know who join the Nazis in WW2 and the Turks during ottoman occupation of Serbia, It seem Albanians love to jump on the winning team. looks like nothing has changed.

# 13.
SiriusBlack

Is it that hard to believe that there were Serb victims too?

http://members.tripod.com/Balkania/resources/terrorism/kla_chronology_96-98.html

Can't understand the reasons of streetfights. What did they want to show?

Unfortunately Serbia must forget about Russia, as Russia is fully pro-american state. It just shows in public it's independence. Like Chaves- he's always arguing with usa, but he sells oil with a big discount.
Serbia must enter the EU and start becoming stronger inside the union.

Sure ordinary people will protest ! Unlike Serbian leaders they have no obligations before the West. They do not afraid to spoil the already spoiled relations with NATO. They don't have to filter words like Tadic and Zvetkovic do. Those people in the street are really free.

They differ drastically even from the Parliament which has not dared to provide any declaration concerning the bombing a Christian nation in the middle of Europe. Those people to protest in the streets are the pride of Serbia. Together we shall change this unjust world and win. A lot of peoples worldwide are on our side. The World is round while Europe is flat.

The usual group of hooligans.
They expect just these moments to get out of the zoo.
Serbian people have nothing to do with this ignorant.
In such a sad anniversary silence would be the best behaviour.

beppe ita

This article has made my day! At least not everyone has given up! Keep up the good work "hooligans". Everyone is a "hooligan" that doesn't get brainwashed!

Even after 10 years, Serb enclaves survive, and the North of Kosovo is not under Albanian control! Spain is leaving Kosovo, because they see the writing on the wall. Russia has left and this frees Russia from any U.N obligations in Kosovo it had. This means that they are free to do what they want when the time is opportune.
And where are the rush of new recognitions? Nowhere! The K alb time is coming to an end. Prepare your documents that prove you are genuine k albs, because I suspect that Serb action against KLA terrorists and illegal aliens will have support of world events. By world events, I mean that this Kosov"a" experiment has reached its end.

Sirius,
Would that be the same propoganda that is being fed to Albanians and the Western World?
Maybe research a little into what the KLA and Thaci is all about and then tell me if it is all lies.

To bgannon,

I am typing from Australia, not by choice but because i was too young to decide where i wanted to live.
I too support these "hooligans" because they are the strong/intellectual serbs that Serbia needs. Not brainwashed individuals who want to join EU & NATO because they are scared to defend themselves or think they will get richer by joing the EU.
Tadic and co have already started to sell everything government owned, soon enough the country will be owned by the west where they can do whatever they like with it.
I wish Serbia does join EU to learn their lesson, EU is just another way for the Germans to control everything! Read up on Latvia and how the EU has "helped" them!
I've got friends from Spain, Portugal,Greece that are moving to Australia because it's just too expensive to live in the EU.

Farebit for me to interrupt your two minutes of hate Rashan, but I'm not surprised that somebody like you supports violence, when the vast majority of posters here reject it.

And let me understand your point - you are posting from Canada, Australia or some luxrious western country, no doubt purchasing the finest organic food, with an easy life. And you are lecturing me about depleted uranium (very likely deployed by your government) which is in the country I'm living in and may be contaminating the food I'm eating (that includes all those that CHOOSE to live here).

You know the people of Serbia don't take kindly to outsiders lecturing them about what they have to live with every day.

No surprise that you are posting here BGanon but nothing on the 10 year vigil for victims of pure evil

This may be because
1. The 'hooligans' spilled your glass of champagne
2. Depleted Uranium is prevalent for the next 1,000 years and would explain things?

Oh, I know your personal thought police here will not let this pass but as you said we all have our own totem poles.

Adam these people intellectuals?! Most of those people (who attended the protest) have only finished high school. Don't pretend they are something they are not. Not that it matters whether they are educated or not, but you brought this up...
The real question you should be asking is why more people did not attend, which is something Marko touched upon in his post above. I'll tell you why I didn't go - because I am not interested in my two minutes of hate and I am certainly not interested mixing with those who have extremist political beliefs or think that smashing up Belgrade or stealing is a good thing.

I'm not going to lecture you about Australia, as I just don't know the real situation on the ground there.

I hope that your support for Serbia will manifest itself in a more positive way at some time in the future.

Hang on BG anon, apart from your wrong guess work I'm only quoting what you have said before.

Weren't you the one that said Kustinica was an idiot for telling people who were suffering from the economic crisis to go to Church, regain their moral values instead of going to the streets and potesting, ie tearing up the streets like in Paris, Athens. Unless you were implying that desperate people merely hold hands and walk down the street, which you were not implying.

As for the Champagne, the comments about Krajina refugees in the past I'm never gonna forget.

It is good to see you get some anger about the injustices commiteed by foreign governments and not always peddle this middle ground BS and contradict yourself because of your political allegiances.

Typo's BG Anon

I wasn't talking about your diet I was talking about one thousand years of poisoning to think about your choice of friends and allegiances and who you choose to chastise.

My original question was - you posted nothing about the vigil (commemoration) but you chooese to post here about Nato protesters. Now you speak of the murdered like you care.

i think we are going nowhere but this is good as i belong to a different Srbian tribe.

I had the same views in Russia in the mid nineties with 'liberals' who were buying Fruit Juice from Finland and ice cream from malaysia, while they were munching on the "Yablaka" rhetoric but some things in Belgrade for a minority appear to be beyond change.

If you want organic food I've told you that $1 will get you that house in organic land.

His name is Kostunica Rashan.
Whether you are in the US, Australia or wherever the point is that you don't live in Serbia and you are making quips about depleted uranium, implying that I (or other citizens of Serbia like me) support eating a diet of cancer inducing material. Completely absurd.

What is there not to understand about protesting without committing violence and destruction? Where did I say that people should take to the streets to smash shop windows, steal and attack people? Where did I say that skinheads, football hooligans and other extremist right wing groups should hold hands to fight for what?? We know their agenda. No thanks.

I'll refresh your memory, we were talking about the economy and I said that people should take to the streets if necessary to protest for a dignified wage and / or jobs. To protest normally.

This was a commemoration for heavens sake, to remember those who died from NATO bombing in a dignified way. Do you ever do that (commemorate somebody's death)?

You Serbs should forget about Russia. Serbia will have no future if she remains outside the EU.

I am looking forward to the Romania-Serbia football match on Saturday. I hope Romania will win the match.

SiriusBlack,

Why do you Albanians have to sling-mud at every opportunity? There were no Albanians involved.

Let me throw a little mud right back. . .

Do you know what's even more sad?

* having a terrorist as a "prime minister"
* destroying ancient churches and monasteries in Europe
* raping nuns
* machine-gunning small kids
* harvesting organs
* preventing medicine from reaching hospitals
* cutting electricity to homes

Beating up a cameraman and destroying windows at a McDonald's is silly and juvenile but it pales in comparison to what is perpetrated in Kosovo by Albanians on an almost daily basis.

[The crowd chanted “Give Us Weapons!“]

Now, where have I heard that before. Let me think. Ah, yes I know. It was the usual slogan during late 1980's rallies and protests all around former Yugoslavia. We all know what followed. Sad, really sad indeed.

God bless ...

This was sadly predictable. I didn't watch them try again to smash up Belgrade this time, but a friend was there.
He told me that the crowd consisted of Milosevic supporters, radical cetniks, obraz, classic hooligans and a smaller minority of radical party supporters.

The lesson we learn every time is that whenever the ultra right wing take to the streets in Serbia violence and law breaking follows.

In cases where its obvious what is going to follow the police should cordon off the protest from the beginning.

Instead of the headlines being about the families of the victims of NATO bombardment, the rent a mob again disgust us with their violence.

Shame on those that force violence on innocent people, whether that is large scale or small scale.

Do you know what's even more sad?

* having a terrorist as a "prime minister"
* destroying ancient churches and monasteries in Europe
* raping nuns
* machine-gunning small kids
* harvesting organs
* preventing medicine from reaching hospitals
* cutting electricity to homes

Hey Nemanja. I agree that all things on your list sound rather bad, but I am not sure they are true though. In fact, they are all lies propagated by the current Serbian regime which is unfortunately spoon feading the likes of you. I am sure you'd agree that is so very sad.

If it doesn't, generations of young Serbian children growing up today in Serbia, will not thank you nor the current regime (and those preceading the current one) when they grow up for spreading lies in their name. They deserve a chance to become part of free Europe too.

EA: "The crowd chanted “Give Us Weapons!“ and lit firecrackers.
Maybe they are foxhunters."

Where do you live, EA?!
Foxhunters in the UK may get a little rowdy at times (as Mr Oscar Wilde said: "The unspeakable pursuing the inedible") but I can't imagine them lighting firecrackers and shouting for weapons.

Dear me no.

The crowd chanted “Give Us Weapons!“ and lit firecrackers.

Maybe they are foxhunters....)

Can't understand the reasons of streetfights. What did they want to show?

Unfortunately Serbia must forget about Russia, as Russia is fully pro-american state. It just shows in public it's independence. Like Chaves- he's always arguing with usa, but he sells oil with a big discount.
Serbia must enter the EU and start becoming stronger inside the union.

This article has made my day! At least not everyone has given up! Keep up the good work "hooligans". Everyone is a "hooligan" that doesn't get brainwashed!

Sure ordinary people will protest ! Unlike Serbian leaders they have no obligations before the West. They do not afraid to spoil the already spoiled relations with NATO. They don't have to filter words like Tadic and Zvetkovic do. Those people in the street are really free.

They differ drastically even from the Parliament which has not dared to provide any declaration concerning the bombing a Christian nation in the middle of Europe. Those people to protest in the streets are the pride of Serbia. Together we shall change this unjust world and win. A lot of peoples worldwide are on our side. The World is round while Europe is flat.

I wonder if these youths that were smashing the McDonald's restaurants were wearing their NIKE sneakers...hypocrites!!

No surprise that you are posting here BGanon but nothing on the 10 year vigil for victims of pure evil

This may be because
1. The 'hooligans' spilled your glass of champagne
2. Depleted Uranium is prevalent for the next 1,000 years and would explain things?

Oh, I know your personal thought police here will not let this pass but as you said we all have our own totem poles.

It is a shame that such an important day in Serb diary should be marked by violence. The organizers should try and discourage such a behavior.

Here in UK I have seen so many protests. Majority pass without any incident.

I can not understand why pleple can not bring their point acress without violence.

This is not to criticise youth of Serbia of whom majority are more than good people. It is the minority who give our people a bad name.

I recall a young boy who died in believe American embassy during riots. He was a boy displaced from Kosovo. No doubt had high feelings but am sure his intentions were not bad. After all his been through what a tragic death. And what about his parents who cry at his grave day in and day out!

#8.
I wonder if these youths that were smashing the McDonald's restaurants were wearing their NIKE sneakers...hypocrites!!
(Dino Hamilton, Canada, 25 March 2009 13:59)

NIKE is made in China Anyway and don't call Serbs hypocrites, As we know who join the Nazis in WW2 and the Turks during ottoman occupation of Serbia, It seem Albanians love to jump on the winning team. looks like nothing has changed.

# 13.
SiriusBlack

Is it that hard to believe that there were Serb victims too?

http://members.tripod.com/Balkania/resources/terrorism/kla_chronology_96-98.html

it strikes me as frustratingly ironic that a demonstration against violence towards Serbs is staged using violence against Serbs. When will people learn that this kind of negative publicity is so amazingly counter productive. By all means demonstrate but do it in an adult and reasoned way.

Sirius,
Would that be the same propoganda that is being fed to Albanians and the Western World?
Maybe research a little into what the KLA and Thaci is all about and then tell me if it is all lies.

Even after 10 years, Serb enclaves survive, and the North of Kosovo is not under Albanian control! Spain is leaving Kosovo, because they see the writing on the wall. Russia has left and this frees Russia from any U.N obligations in Kosovo it had. This means that they are free to do what they want when the time is opportune.
And where are the rush of new recognitions? Nowhere! The K alb time is coming to an end. Prepare your documents that prove you are genuine k albs, because I suspect that Serb action against KLA terrorists and illegal aliens will have support of world events. By world events, I mean that this Kosov"a" experiment has reached its end.

The usual group of hooligans.
They expect just these moments to get out of the zoo.
Serbian people have nothing to do with this ignorant.
In such a sad anniversary silence would be the best behaviour.

beppe ita

You'll always find a handful of extremist retards in any society. Fourtunately, that's all they are here now, a handful.

Farebit for me to interrupt your two minutes of hate Rashan, but I'm not surprised that somebody like you supports violence, when the vast majority of posters here reject it.

And let me understand your point - you are posting from Canada, Australia or some luxrious western country, no doubt purchasing the finest organic food, with an easy life. And you are lecturing me about depleted uranium (very likely deployed by your government) which is in the country I'm living in and may be contaminating the food I'm eating (that includes all those that CHOOSE to live here).

You know the people of Serbia don't take kindly to outsiders lecturing them about what they have to live with every day.

To bgannon,

I am typing from Australia, not by choice but because i was too young to decide where i wanted to live.
I too support these "hooligans" because they are the strong/intellectual serbs that Serbia needs. Not brainwashed individuals who want to join EU & NATO because they are scared to defend themselves or think they will get richer by joing the EU.
Tadic and co have already started to sell everything government owned, soon enough the country will be owned by the west where they can do whatever they like with it.
I wish Serbia does join EU to learn their lesson, EU is just another way for the Germans to control everything! Read up on Latvia and how the EU has "helped" them!
I've got friends from Spain, Portugal,Greece that are moving to Australia because it's just too expensive to live in the EU.

I am really sorry for the mind of people who can not think about peace and prosperity. Hate leads to nothing, war leads to distruction, reconciliation and peace leads to a bright future... I invite ballkan people to rethink all what happened in the past, be able to ask forgiveness and to forgive and to go to an other civilized future. Extremists are forgeting that they have "cancelled" already the life and future of lot of young people, they have "cancelled" even their own future.
Conclusion:
Dear ballkanas, if you do not seat down with your neighbours and solve your problems, do not wait that the others will solve better, so simply the others come there and solve three times harder than you could do.
Peace for All!

Adam these people intellectuals?! Most of those people (who attended the protest) have only finished high school. Don't pretend they are something they are not. Not that it matters whether they are educated or not, but you brought this up...
The real question you should be asking is why more people did not attend, which is something Marko touched upon in his post above. I'll tell you why I didn't go - because I am not interested in my two minutes of hate and I am certainly not interested mixing with those who have extremist political beliefs or think that smashing up Belgrade or stealing is a good thing.

I'm not going to lecture you about Australia, as I just don't know the real situation on the ground there.

I hope that your support for Serbia will manifest itself in a more positive way at some time in the future.

If the government provided and organized a somber protest to mark the occasion as a day of remembrance for all the citizens of Serbia; peoople would not be attracted to the hooligan protest.

Instead the minister of defense talks about the fox guarding the hen house (Serbia joining its Nato enemies) and people become seduced by the hooligan element.

When their is no one worth following, people follow the worthless

Hang on BG anon, apart from your wrong guess work I'm only quoting what you have said before.

Weren't you the one that said Kustinica was an idiot for telling people who were suffering from the economic crisis to go to Church, regain their moral values instead of going to the streets and potesting, ie tearing up the streets like in Paris, Athens. Unless you were implying that desperate people merely hold hands and walk down the street, which you were not implying.

As for the Champagne, the comments about Krajina refugees in the past I'm never gonna forget.

It is good to see you get some anger about the injustices commiteed by foreign governments and not always peddle this middle ground BS and contradict yourself because of your political allegiances.

His name is Kostunica Rashan.
Whether you are in the US, Australia or wherever the point is that you don't live in Serbia and you are making quips about depleted uranium, implying that I (or other citizens of Serbia like me) support eating a diet of cancer inducing material. Completely absurd.

What is there not to understand about protesting without committing violence and destruction? Where did I say that people should take to the streets to smash shop windows, steal and attack people? Where did I say that skinheads, football hooligans and other extremist right wing groups should hold hands to fight for what?? We know their agenda. No thanks.

I'll refresh your memory, we were talking about the economy and I said that people should take to the streets if necessary to protest for a dignified wage and / or jobs. To protest normally.

This was a commemoration for heavens sake, to remember those who died from NATO bombing in a dignified way. Do you ever do that (commemorate somebody's death)?

Typo's BG Anon

I wasn't talking about your diet I was talking about one thousand years of poisoning to think about your choice of friends and allegiances and who you choose to chastise.

My original question was - you posted nothing about the vigil (commemoration) but you chooese to post here about Nato protesters. Now you speak of the murdered like you care.

i think we are going nowhere but this is good as i belong to a different Srbian tribe.

I had the same views in Russia in the mid nineties with 'liberals' who were buying Fruit Juice from Finland and ice cream from malaysia, while they were munching on the "Yablaka" rhetoric but some things in Belgrade for a minority appear to be beyond change.

If you want organic food I've told you that $1 will get you that house in organic land.