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Monday, 23.03.2009.

14:54

Confirmation of Karadžić-Holbrooke deal?

A study confirms that an American official promised Radovan Karadžić that he would have immunity from the Hague Tribunal, according to the New York Times.

Izvor: New York Times

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Dino

pre 15 godina

How unfair eh?

Are there many people who wouldnt lie to a war criminal to bring peace? Poor Kardzic, he lead serbs, croats and bosnians to a disaster for political points of which result was 100,000 dead.

How dare anyone lie to him as a result. Seriously, does anyone care? maybe serbs but thats it. its a weak argument.

Bosko

pre 15 godina

Its has to be clear to all interested that American foreign policy in all aspects changes its mind, bends with the wind and stabs people in the back.!!

Countless times have America's foreign policy is shown to be Morally Bankrupt and intellectually handicapped.!!

Radovan Karadzic was the most intellectual person of all those involved throughout former Yugoslavia its become clear as to how Milosevic was a stupid puppet to CIA, MI5 when Karadzic had warned him of dealing with lying "US diplomats" with their double standards, during this period the ULTRA nationalist Franjo Tudjman was left free to cleanse his croat territory which is celebrated by croats today..!!

American foreign policy has shown complete imaturity with current examples Iraq and Afghanistan where the whole planet can see there is no end game, no peace solution..!!

So due to Serbia's size and world importance this is why we get this treatment.

luciano

pre 15 godina

Holbrooke has always been for sale to the highest bidder.On the other hand,Karadzic should have kept his word and really retire from any political dealings whatsoever after he made the deal.There is no such thing as behind the scenes when you have the CIA listening in on every conversation this Karadzic buffoon ever had from 1995 on.

bganon

pre 15 godina

In my opinion this isn't so much about Karadzic, but more about Holbrooke and the kind of men (supposed diplomats) running the show throughout the Jugoslav crisis.

Duplicity, incomeptence and ill will. Unfortunately that about sums up western involvement in former Jugoslavija.

Perhaps this 'error' by Holbrooke will only be remembered as a footnote in his career, but it will be remembered by anybody studying the man or the Bosnian war.

Din

pre 15 godina

Well, if Kraradzic believed Holbrooke, I think that he was pretty naive.After what happened in Bosnia, where 1000s were massacred in camps, how could he believe that he could away with a promise ... especially made by an American?

Nenad

pre 15 godina

OK, so maybe Holbrooke hasn't been entirely (or maybe even the least bit) truthful about negotiations for the quid pro quo that Karadzic keeps squawking about at the Hague. However, in looking at the big picture, does it really matter all that much? It says in the article right here that the word immunity wasn't even contained in the text of the "agreement", and that the document carries no American signatures. Furthermore, is anyone all that surprised that Holbrooke apparently hasn't been forthright about all this? For one thing, he worked for the Clinton Administration, which hasn't exactly been remembered for honesty. Also, I seem to recall Holbrooke's memoir getting at least one bad review from a major US newspaper when it was released however many years back. I'm not sure how many folks in the know would truly regard his character highly. Anyway, Holbrooke and his version of the story are but an aside in all of this. And, for what it's worth, I would like to remind readers of this site that other US officials with knowledge of this "agreement" have already said that Karadzic failed to uphold his end of the bargain by continuing to wield influence from behind the scenes. The article from today only touches on that fact briefly, but it basically confirms what was already published a few months ago -- that the CIA pulled the plug on its support of Karadzic at the 2000 elections in BiH, at which point he became fair game. Which reminds me: didn't Krajisnik and Plavsic show up at the UN Tribunal in early 2001? That fact might just be a hint of a major policy change taking effect around that time...

bganon

pre 15 godina

In my opinion this isn't so much about Karadzic, but more about Holbrooke and the kind of men (supposed diplomats) running the show throughout the Jugoslav crisis.

Duplicity, incomeptence and ill will. Unfortunately that about sums up western involvement in former Jugoslavija.

Perhaps this 'error' by Holbrooke will only be remembered as a footnote in his career, but it will be remembered by anybody studying the man or the Bosnian war.

Din

pre 15 godina

Well, if Kraradzic believed Holbrooke, I think that he was pretty naive.After what happened in Bosnia, where 1000s were massacred in camps, how could he believe that he could away with a promise ... especially made by an American?

Nenad

pre 15 godina

OK, so maybe Holbrooke hasn't been entirely (or maybe even the least bit) truthful about negotiations for the quid pro quo that Karadzic keeps squawking about at the Hague. However, in looking at the big picture, does it really matter all that much? It says in the article right here that the word immunity wasn't even contained in the text of the "agreement", and that the document carries no American signatures. Furthermore, is anyone all that surprised that Holbrooke apparently hasn't been forthright about all this? For one thing, he worked for the Clinton Administration, which hasn't exactly been remembered for honesty. Also, I seem to recall Holbrooke's memoir getting at least one bad review from a major US newspaper when it was released however many years back. I'm not sure how many folks in the know would truly regard his character highly. Anyway, Holbrooke and his version of the story are but an aside in all of this. And, for what it's worth, I would like to remind readers of this site that other US officials with knowledge of this "agreement" have already said that Karadzic failed to uphold his end of the bargain by continuing to wield influence from behind the scenes. The article from today only touches on that fact briefly, but it basically confirms what was already published a few months ago -- that the CIA pulled the plug on its support of Karadzic at the 2000 elections in BiH, at which point he became fair game. Which reminds me: didn't Krajisnik and Plavsic show up at the UN Tribunal in early 2001? That fact might just be a hint of a major policy change taking effect around that time...

luciano

pre 15 godina

Holbrooke has always been for sale to the highest bidder.On the other hand,Karadzic should have kept his word and really retire from any political dealings whatsoever after he made the deal.There is no such thing as behind the scenes when you have the CIA listening in on every conversation this Karadzic buffoon ever had from 1995 on.

Bosko

pre 15 godina

Its has to be clear to all interested that American foreign policy in all aspects changes its mind, bends with the wind and stabs people in the back.!!

Countless times have America's foreign policy is shown to be Morally Bankrupt and intellectually handicapped.!!

Radovan Karadzic was the most intellectual person of all those involved throughout former Yugoslavia its become clear as to how Milosevic was a stupid puppet to CIA, MI5 when Karadzic had warned him of dealing with lying "US diplomats" with their double standards, during this period the ULTRA nationalist Franjo Tudjman was left free to cleanse his croat territory which is celebrated by croats today..!!

American foreign policy has shown complete imaturity with current examples Iraq and Afghanistan where the whole planet can see there is no end game, no peace solution..!!

So due to Serbia's size and world importance this is why we get this treatment.

Dino

pre 15 godina

How unfair eh?

Are there many people who wouldnt lie to a war criminal to bring peace? Poor Kardzic, he lead serbs, croats and bosnians to a disaster for political points of which result was 100,000 dead.

How dare anyone lie to him as a result. Seriously, does anyone care? maybe serbs but thats it. its a weak argument.

Nenad

pre 15 godina

OK, so maybe Holbrooke hasn't been entirely (or maybe even the least bit) truthful about negotiations for the quid pro quo that Karadzic keeps squawking about at the Hague. However, in looking at the big picture, does it really matter all that much? It says in the article right here that the word immunity wasn't even contained in the text of the "agreement", and that the document carries no American signatures. Furthermore, is anyone all that surprised that Holbrooke apparently hasn't been forthright about all this? For one thing, he worked for the Clinton Administration, which hasn't exactly been remembered for honesty. Also, I seem to recall Holbrooke's memoir getting at least one bad review from a major US newspaper when it was released however many years back. I'm not sure how many folks in the know would truly regard his character highly. Anyway, Holbrooke and his version of the story are but an aside in all of this. And, for what it's worth, I would like to remind readers of this site that other US officials with knowledge of this "agreement" have already said that Karadzic failed to uphold his end of the bargain by continuing to wield influence from behind the scenes. The article from today only touches on that fact briefly, but it basically confirms what was already published a few months ago -- that the CIA pulled the plug on its support of Karadzic at the 2000 elections in BiH, at which point he became fair game. Which reminds me: didn't Krajisnik and Plavsic show up at the UN Tribunal in early 2001? That fact might just be a hint of a major policy change taking effect around that time...

Din

pre 15 godina

Well, if Kraradzic believed Holbrooke, I think that he was pretty naive.After what happened in Bosnia, where 1000s were massacred in camps, how could he believe that he could away with a promise ... especially made by an American?

bganon

pre 15 godina

In my opinion this isn't so much about Karadzic, but more about Holbrooke and the kind of men (supposed diplomats) running the show throughout the Jugoslav crisis.

Duplicity, incomeptence and ill will. Unfortunately that about sums up western involvement in former Jugoslavija.

Perhaps this 'error' by Holbrooke will only be remembered as a footnote in his career, but it will be remembered by anybody studying the man or the Bosnian war.

luciano

pre 15 godina

Holbrooke has always been for sale to the highest bidder.On the other hand,Karadzic should have kept his word and really retire from any political dealings whatsoever after he made the deal.There is no such thing as behind the scenes when you have the CIA listening in on every conversation this Karadzic buffoon ever had from 1995 on.

Bosko

pre 15 godina

Its has to be clear to all interested that American foreign policy in all aspects changes its mind, bends with the wind and stabs people in the back.!!

Countless times have America's foreign policy is shown to be Morally Bankrupt and intellectually handicapped.!!

Radovan Karadzic was the most intellectual person of all those involved throughout former Yugoslavia its become clear as to how Milosevic was a stupid puppet to CIA, MI5 when Karadzic had warned him of dealing with lying "US diplomats" with their double standards, during this period the ULTRA nationalist Franjo Tudjman was left free to cleanse his croat territory which is celebrated by croats today..!!

American foreign policy has shown complete imaturity with current examples Iraq and Afghanistan where the whole planet can see there is no end game, no peace solution..!!

So due to Serbia's size and world importance this is why we get this treatment.

Dino

pre 15 godina

How unfair eh?

Are there many people who wouldnt lie to a war criminal to bring peace? Poor Kardzic, he lead serbs, croats and bosnians to a disaster for political points of which result was 100,000 dead.

How dare anyone lie to him as a result. Seriously, does anyone care? maybe serbs but thats it. its a weak argument.