“EC mission in Belgrade again”

John Hawthorne,
no matter how many times i read your comment i fail to see the direct Serbia-Latin America connection that you seem to have in mind...

Anyways, those EC guys
must first ensure electricity
to the nation WHO INVENTED alternative current (AC)
and then about the rest.

Cant run Kosovo?
Let US run it.

I still say as a first step the EU should put Serbia on the Shenghen list immediately for persons who fly from Serbia to Europe. It's a good first step and will be an effective measure to make sure there's no "rush for the border" by those who think that once they cross the border that there's an EU guy waiting for them with the keys to a house and a job waiting for them.

I still say as a first step the EU should put Serbia on the Shenghen list immediately for persons who fly from Serbia to Europe. It's a good first step and will be an effective measure to make sure there's no "rush for the border" by those who think that once they cross the border that there's an EU guy waiting for them with the keys to a house and a job waiting for them.
(John Hawthorne, 12 March 2009 14:50)

Does make little sense and such discrimination based on transport is very harmful. Just think about Vojvodina connections to Romania and Hungary. If you live in Subotica you have to fly to Vienna in order to visit the weekly market in Szeged?

You are probably aware, trains are much better for environment than airplanes. You are probably aware, the direct Belgrade-Moscow train runs through Hungary, which is in Schengen.

So Serbs would continue to need the Schengen visa if they travel to Moscow - even in through cars, correct?

You know the result, don't you? Indeed, the Belgrade-Moscow flights are already MORE expensive than what they should be simply because the train travel does involve extra visa (Hungarian double Schengen). Without the hassles of Hungarian transit visa JAT and AEROFLOT wouldn't have virtual monopoly = overcharging the clients.

Same thing is about Crna Gora, in particular, about vacationeers from Russia. Because they need Hungarian transit visa, the number of people arriving by car or train is relatively low. Who does benefit? Of course, the Montenegrin and Russian tour companies organizing the charter flights.

Who is screwed up? Of course Hungary, Serbia (less people travel through = less people use hotels, restaurants, etc.) and the vacationeers (they have practically one choice: to fly)

People with several small children as well as the school groups are hit the hardest. If not visa, having a 2 week vacation in CG costs for Russians LESS, than going to Crimea.

In other words, artificial measures and visa can backfire where it is not expected.

I still say as a first step the EU should put Serbia on the Shenghen list immediately for persons who fly from Serbia to Europe. It's a good first step and will be an effective measure to make sure there's no "rush for the border" by those who think that once they cross the border that there's an EU guy waiting for them with the keys to a house and a job waiting for them.

John Hawthorne,
no matter how many times i read your comment i fail to see the direct Serbia-Latin America connection that you seem to have in mind...

Anyways, those EC guys
must first ensure electricity
to the nation WHO INVENTED alternative current (AC)
and then about the rest.

Cant run Kosovo?
Let US run it.

I still say as a first step the EU should put Serbia on the Shenghen list immediately for persons who fly from Serbia to Europe. It's a good first step and will be an effective measure to make sure there's no "rush for the border" by those who think that once they cross the border that there's an EU guy waiting for them with the keys to a house and a job waiting for them.
(John Hawthorne, 12 March 2009 14:50)

Does make little sense and such discrimination based on transport is very harmful. Just think about Vojvodina connections to Romania and Hungary. If you live in Subotica you have to fly to Vienna in order to visit the weekly market in Szeged?

You are probably aware, trains are much better for environment than airplanes. You are probably aware, the direct Belgrade-Moscow train runs through Hungary, which is in Schengen.

So Serbs would continue to need the Schengen visa if they travel to Moscow - even in through cars, correct?

You know the result, don't you? Indeed, the Belgrade-Moscow flights are already MORE expensive than what they should be simply because the train travel does involve extra visa (Hungarian double Schengen). Without the hassles of Hungarian transit visa JAT and AEROFLOT wouldn't have virtual monopoly = overcharging the clients.

Same thing is about Crna Gora, in particular, about vacationeers from Russia. Because they need Hungarian transit visa, the number of people arriving by car or train is relatively low. Who does benefit? Of course, the Montenegrin and Russian tour companies organizing the charter flights.

Who is screwed up? Of course Hungary, Serbia (less people travel through = less people use hotels, restaurants, etc.) and the vacationeers (they have practically one choice: to fly)

People with several small children as well as the school groups are hit the hardest. If not visa, having a 2 week vacation in CG costs for Russians LESS, than going to Crimea.

In other words, artificial measures and visa can backfire where it is not expected.