Mladić arrest remains condition

'European Values' he says? You mean like bombing Serbia illegally for 78 days based on lies about '100,000 dead albanians'? Bombing hospitals, cigarette factories, bridges, power plants, TV stations, markets full of people..and other 'military targets'? Dropping depleted uranium and cluster bombs on civilians. Are these the 'European Values' he is talking about? I guess war crimes are part of 'European Vales'.
How about stealing 15% of a sovereign state's land and handing it over to terrorists and organ traffickers? How about no freedom of movement for minorities, barbed wire ghettos in the 21'st century, burning down 156 churhes and UNESCO heritage sites, overturning gravestones...this is the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' that most of the states that have these so called 'European Values' countries regognized.
How about the country which you claim is ready to join EU, Croatia? They hold Nazi Ustashe concerts in the middle of Zagreb, with 60,000 fans doing the sieg heil, wearing black Ustashe uniforms. They ethnically cleansed all Serbs, and have inflicted genocide against the Serbs, not just once, but twice, in WWII and in 1995!! No Serbs are allowed to come back. This is REAL genocide, and it is part of the 'European Values' by Verhagen's logic.
Serbia does not have such 'European Values', for you see, Serbs have always treated their minorites with full equal rights and respect (today the most multicultural country in the Balkans), and have never inflicted genocide on anyone, and have never been aggressors. They have always defended what is theirs, and have always been on the side of right.

Bganon,

I do not exclude the responsibility of the US, but somehow I find them irrelevant now since the message about European values this time came from the EU, more precisely from The Netherlands.

Yes, it is also true that the Hague tribunal is established by the UN but the message did not come from the UN as an organization, but from the EU. And no, I don’t think that Serbia should withdraw from UN.

Yes, the one may ask what The Hague has to do with the EU. But it has, as I pointed out already, The Hague is supposed to act in line with the values that the EU promotes which means applying the law equally. I am sure that the law applied in Hague is the law that is widely used or applied in most of the EU countries. Yes, this is special kind of law which deals with the war crimes. Yes, it is international law, but so what? Somehow, Hague (whose preceding judges mostly come from the EU) failed to stick to its legal principles and moral values when it comes to non-Serbs. I find this court very partial and biased. The EU from the other side turned blind eye on this shameful Hague policy and we both know how huge influence, both the EU and the USA have in Hague tribunal. . I did not expect from cowboys much, but I did however expect more values from the EU. But, silly me.

In addition, the reason I did not go further with outlining the EU values as Dragan (in his comment 8), rightfully pointed out, is just because the Netherlands mentioned Ratko Mladic’s arrest as a condition that remains for Serbia. That’s why I find a bit hardly digestible this preaching on EU values when the two previously mentioned war criminals walked free from the Hague tribunal while the EU again stays silent after such shameful decision.

The EU insults common sense of Serbian citizens by applying the policy of double standards and demonstrating the hypocrisy towards Serbia.
This kind of behaviour can be named anyhow but certainly not as “values”.

Now I should give you an answer on EU’s possible failure. Well, my personal belief that the EU is doomed to failure contributes quite much to my anti EU stand after the values that EU applies towards Serbia. I think that by joining the EU Serbia would have to invest much energy which can be used for something more useful and in some other directions. I mean, what’s the point to invest in something that barely bring any better future than we have it already now? Furthermore, the dismemberment of the EU will be no without serious consequences for the each country individually, and I think that Serbia for once should stay out without being a part of any of these sorts of unions as it may be very messy, painful and troublesome.

I am just sick and tired of the entire EU and Serbia's masochistic ambition to join this mess.

And you call this news? Every week we hear about this so-called condition for Serbia's EU entry. Why bother repeating it so often?

But I do have to thank The Netherlands for standing firm and keeping Serbia out of this club ruled by dictators. Serbia will do far better out of the EU than in it. Last year we exceeded the economic growth of every single EU member.

As for Albania joining before Serbia, now that would be a dream. Can you imagine all of those supposed "Kosovars" realising after all that they are in fact Albanians from Albania. Those that crossed the border into Serbia for a better life over the past 60 years will be rushing back to claim their EU citizenship and the EU will be flooded with Albanians while Kosovo will be emptied of illegal immigrants.

It's a nice thought but for that reason, I can almost guarantee that Albania will not become a full member of the EU for a very very long time.

What a pity someone doesn't rain down thousands of cluster bombs on your dykes, Verhagen, to teach you some european values.

“Verhagen believes that that full cooperation with the court in The Hague would demonstrate loyalty to international law and basic values which EU countries share, whose standards Serbia, as a potential member of the European family, must satisfy”
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Firstly, I would like to thank Netherlands for taking such firm stand when it comes to Serbia’s possible integration into bizarre EU and its self-proclaimed values, what ever those values are.
Since our blinded government in Serbia dos not see that the EU is nothing but the failure and that the values that this union sometimes propagate are nothing but joke, the one like me, and an ordinary citizen, must thank Netherlands or any other country that take this kind of stand towards Serbia. Perhaps Serbia is not aware at the moment, but the EU is doomed to failure, sooner or later, that remains to be seen. So, thank you Netherland, thank you Europe for choosing to keep Serbia out of the EU, coz Serbian lapdog government would takes us all right into disaster.

However, this was not my primary thought, I was just provoked by the values that this true European mentioned.

For the sake of an ordinary Serbian citizen who dreams about the EU and her values, I felt like I must something to say.
Well, when it comes to those values I don’t think that Serbia is any different than the EU.
Why and how?
Not that long time ago, EU has demonstrated its values by releasing Naser Oric and Ramush Haradinaj from Hague. The one may ask what Hague has to do with the EU. But it does. They, the two “peace fighters” were actually acquitted by the EU (Hague was supposed to act in line with the EU values, isn’t it so?). The two monsters walk free nowadays and run active and perhaps fruitful political lives in the region. The one is even proposed as a peace mediator. Well, isn’t that irony, Mr true European from Netherlands? This proposal wherever it came from, is not only irony for the mankind but the disaster for the mankind and pure attack on the common sense.

Now, please, explain to the ordinary Serbian citizen in love with the EU, in what way Serbia does not follow the rules and the values of the EU? In what way Serbia does not fit? Where is the difference? I don’t see it!
Please, please, Mr European, do not insult Serbian people any longer whether they be EU supporters or fit into category against the EU.

Mircea - I wouldn't read too much into any balkan country application. If you haven't realised it yet the EU will do everything to prevent any Balkan country entering the EU at the moment. They'll either all enter at the same time or not at all.

hey mircea, how about getting "your" money from brussels, as was promised before romania got a province, before phantasizing about albania within eu.

Verhagen answered that the responsibility for locating, arresting and extraditing Mladić lies with Serbia, and not with international community, which, he says, Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić has admitted.


I strongly suspects that Mladic is hiding in Kosovo. Would it be ok then if we sent in a couple of thousands soldiers and police officers to look for him? We can't stress this, they have to stay in Kosovo and search for him as long as it takes, specially the border to Albanian need to be searched since he might be hiding there ;-)

Mircea, what's the point of your list? It sounds like it came from the 90s but sorry to say, the EU has changed considerably since then and the last two members, as you know, cannot freely work in other member states for a few years yet.

Serbia's economic growth exceeded that of every single EU member! We are doing just fine out of the EU while there are many EU members who are now in real economic trouble and it is the IMF bailing them out, not the EU.

I see no problem with Visa free travel for Serbians, which we are currently working towards but having a brain drain here so our brightest can go and clean toilets for less than minimum wage is not my idea of where Serbia should be heading.

Sorry Mircea, but you have no case. As a full EU citizen with full EU rights, I have seen first hand what membership does. I had university qualified Eastern Europeans cleaning my toilet and house for next to nothing and they were everywhere. Cheap labour was plentiful and I'm glad Serbians were not part of that list. You should be glad that neither was Romania, which is why it probably had the highest economic growth within the EU.

Mircea - on your 6 points:
1)That growth was due to a huge debt buble unlikely to be repeated again the the near or medium term future
2)Can't see FDI picking up again for many years in CEE
3)funding is going to be very thin on the ground with the financial crisis
4)What benefit is the Euro when it is already hammering exports for EU countries
5)still hasn't reduced nationalism within the EU
6)i agree with this point

This debate is hopeless...there is no way for any new Eu memberships for the next 10 years (with few exceptions by some countries that are waiting for so long -CROATIA or have strong sponsor ICELAND ) ..we are in deep crisis ..our istitutions are malfunctioning (may i say so..)and we are already digesting the last "new entries"...Try the project "EAST Partnership"..There are already Moldovia-Ukraine-Belarus-Armenia etc etc...

Nothing new here.

Biljana I agree with some of your posts but I don't see the connection between the Hague and the EU. Why exclude US responsibility for the Hague? Why not put the onus on those responsible for establishing the Hague. As far as I know the organisation that did this was the UN, not the EU. So do you think that Serbia should withdraw from the UN?

Now don't get me wrong, I am against hypocricy of any kind. But for me, as usual criticisms of the EU in the Serbian context are not the right ones.

Trying to muddy the name of the EU with the Hague is not correct or honest. For sure state the real issues - the potential threat to nation state culture, the standardisation, the threat to Serbian businesses, some of which will be forced to close, the repeated problems with differing foreign policies of nation states etc. There are many real issues that nobody will discuss, precisely because the debate is between euro enthusiasts who think everything that comes from there is great on one side and those that think that the EU / NATO / Hague (it is the same thing in their minds) is reponsible for every problem in Serbia on the other side.

These are the issues that should be dicussed when discussing the merits and pitfalls of the EU.

The fact that the EU might collapse on its own is not a good enough argument to not seeking membership. I'd say for certain that the world will end one day, should we all then be thinking of not bothering to go to work tomorrow, or should we not try to consider what is best for us now? Or if the end of the world is too much, should we not recognise that one day nation states will not exist any more and therefore we should all become globalist supporting victims of transnational corporations?

The ONLY way a majority against the EU in Serbia can be brought about is by persuasion through use of real issues, that includes non national issues.

It's best to check the facts before making bold statements about how the UN war crimes tribunal is a creature of the European Union.

The UN's International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia at The Hague currently has 31 judges. Fewer than half of the judges (12) come from EU countries -- and they are not there as representatives of their governments. The majority of the judges, among them the tribunal's current president, come from countries outside the EU.

As one would expect in an institution created and funded by the United Nations, the Hague tribunal has judges from UN member states on every continent -- from countries as diverse as China, Bulgaria, Australia, Argentina, South Korea, Senegal, South Africa, and Switzerland.

I read that Albania is planning to submit its application for EU membership before the parliamentary elections in June. If I was a Serb, I would not want Albania to submit its EU membership application before Serbia. Albania is one of the poorest countries in Europe.

http://www.euractiv.com/en/enlargement/albania-formally-apply-eu-membership/article-180100

ZK,

These are some of the benefits of joining the EU:

1. EU membership has helped countries in Central and Eastern Europe to achieve high rates of economic growth
2. EU membership has allowed the countries of Central and Eastern Europe to attract more foreign direct investment
3. EU Member States have access to the Structural Funds and to the Cohesion Fund which will help to reduce the economic disparities between EU Member States
4. EU Member States have the possibility to adopt the Euro once they meet the criteria
5. EU Member States have the possibility to join the Schengen Area in which borders are removed between member states
6. EU citizens have the possibility to travel, live and work without restrictions in other EU Member States. (The restrictions imposed on workers from Central and Eastern Europe in some EU Member States are only temporary)

"The fact that the EU might collapse on its own is not a good enough argument to not seeking membership."

Bgannon, what are you saying?
You can see trouble on the horizon but you still want to head in that direction?

It sounds similar to people lining up for tickets on the Titanic after they get warning that the ship is not built well so it has a good chance of sinking.

Radoslav,

By adopting the Euro, the economies of the countries of Central and Eastern Europe would be protected from currency fluctuations.

The Euro offers protection especially during the financial crisis. Slovakia and Slovenia were not affected by currency fluctuations because they have the Euro.

ZK,

Serbia's economy would also be better protected if Serbia would have the Euro instead of the Dinar.

Peggy poor analogy.
To stick to ships, its the same as a ship company joining a multinational organisation that has political and economic powers that can offer benefits and minuses to its members, but has serious problems.

If the multinational organisation disbands, it will become purely free trade, without the political element. That is this shipping company and the EU.

Hardly the end of the world! The decision on whether to join the EU has nothing to do with what might happen at some point in the future, it has everything to do with the potential benefits / drawbacks facing the country in question today.

ZK,

These are some of the benefits of joining the EU:

1. EU membership has helped countries in Central and Eastern Europe to achieve high rates of economic growth
2. EU membership has allowed the countries of Central and Eastern Europe to attract more foreign direct investment
3. EU Member States have access to the Structural Funds and to the Cohesion Fund which will help to reduce the economic disparities between EU Member States
4. EU Member States have the possibility to adopt the Euro once they meet the criteria
5. EU Member States have the possibility to join the Schengen Area in which borders are removed between member states
6. EU citizens have the possibility to travel, live and work without restrictions in other EU Member States. (The restrictions imposed on workers from Central and Eastern Europe in some EU Member States are only temporary)

I read that Albania is planning to submit its application for EU membership before the parliamentary elections in June. If I was a Serb, I would not want Albania to submit its EU membership application before Serbia. Albania is one of the poorest countries in Europe.

http://www.euractiv.com/en/enlargement/albania-formally-apply-eu-membership/article-180100

“Verhagen believes that that full cooperation with the court in The Hague would demonstrate loyalty to international law and basic values which EU countries share, whose standards Serbia, as a potential member of the European family, must satisfy”
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Firstly, I would like to thank Netherlands for taking such firm stand when it comes to Serbia’s possible integration into bizarre EU and its self-proclaimed values, what ever those values are.
Since our blinded government in Serbia dos not see that the EU is nothing but the failure and that the values that this union sometimes propagate are nothing but joke, the one like me, and an ordinary citizen, must thank Netherlands or any other country that take this kind of stand towards Serbia. Perhaps Serbia is not aware at the moment, but the EU is doomed to failure, sooner or later, that remains to be seen. So, thank you Netherland, thank you Europe for choosing to keep Serbia out of the EU, coz Serbian lapdog government would takes us all right into disaster.

However, this was not my primary thought, I was just provoked by the values that this true European mentioned.

For the sake of an ordinary Serbian citizen who dreams about the EU and her values, I felt like I must something to say.
Well, when it comes to those values I don’t think that Serbia is any different than the EU.
Why and how?
Not that long time ago, EU has demonstrated its values by releasing Naser Oric and Ramush Haradinaj from Hague. The one may ask what Hague has to do with the EU. But it does. They, the two “peace fighters” were actually acquitted by the EU (Hague was supposed to act in line with the EU values, isn’t it so?). The two monsters walk free nowadays and run active and perhaps fruitful political lives in the region. The one is even proposed as a peace mediator. Well, isn’t that irony, Mr true European from Netherlands? This proposal wherever it came from, is not only irony for the mankind but the disaster for the mankind and pure attack on the common sense.

Now, please, explain to the ordinary Serbian citizen in love with the EU, in what way Serbia does not follow the rules and the values of the EU? In what way Serbia does not fit? Where is the difference? I don’t see it!
Please, please, Mr European, do not insult Serbian people any longer whether they be EU supporters or fit into category against the EU.

Radoslav,

By adopting the Euro, the economies of the countries of Central and Eastern Europe would be protected from currency fluctuations.

The Euro offers protection especially during the financial crisis. Slovakia and Slovenia were not affected by currency fluctuations because they have the Euro.

ZK,

Serbia's economy would also be better protected if Serbia would have the Euro instead of the Dinar.

Nothing new here.

Biljana I agree with some of your posts but I don't see the connection between the Hague and the EU. Why exclude US responsibility for the Hague? Why not put the onus on those responsible for establishing the Hague. As far as I know the organisation that did this was the UN, not the EU. So do you think that Serbia should withdraw from the UN?

Now don't get me wrong, I am against hypocricy of any kind. But for me, as usual criticisms of the EU in the Serbian context are not the right ones.

Trying to muddy the name of the EU with the Hague is not correct or honest. For sure state the real issues - the potential threat to nation state culture, the standardisation, the threat to Serbian businesses, some of which will be forced to close, the repeated problems with differing foreign policies of nation states etc. There are many real issues that nobody will discuss, precisely because the debate is between euro enthusiasts who think everything that comes from there is great on one side and those that think that the EU / NATO / Hague (it is the same thing in their minds) is reponsible for every problem in Serbia on the other side.

These are the issues that should be dicussed when discussing the merits and pitfalls of the EU.

The fact that the EU might collapse on its own is not a good enough argument to not seeking membership. I'd say for certain that the world will end one day, should we all then be thinking of not bothering to go to work tomorrow, or should we not try to consider what is best for us now? Or if the end of the world is too much, should we not recognise that one day nation states will not exist any more and therefore we should all become globalist supporting victims of transnational corporations?

The ONLY way a majority against the EU in Serbia can be brought about is by persuasion through use of real issues, that includes non national issues.

What a pity someone doesn't rain down thousands of cluster bombs on your dykes, Verhagen, to teach you some european values.

And you call this news? Every week we hear about this so-called condition for Serbia's EU entry. Why bother repeating it so often?

But I do have to thank The Netherlands for standing firm and keeping Serbia out of this club ruled by dictators. Serbia will do far better out of the EU than in it. Last year we exceeded the economic growth of every single EU member.

As for Albania joining before Serbia, now that would be a dream. Can you imagine all of those supposed "Kosovars" realising after all that they are in fact Albanians from Albania. Those that crossed the border into Serbia for a better life over the past 60 years will be rushing back to claim their EU citizenship and the EU will be flooded with Albanians while Kosovo will be emptied of illegal immigrants.

It's a nice thought but for that reason, I can almost guarantee that Albania will not become a full member of the EU for a very very long time.

'European Values' he says? You mean like bombing Serbia illegally for 78 days based on lies about '100,000 dead albanians'? Bombing hospitals, cigarette factories, bridges, power plants, TV stations, markets full of people..and other 'military targets'? Dropping depleted uranium and cluster bombs on civilians. Are these the 'European Values' he is talking about? I guess war crimes are part of 'European Vales'.
How about stealing 15% of a sovereign state's land and handing it over to terrorists and organ traffickers? How about no freedom of movement for minorities, barbed wire ghettos in the 21'st century, burning down 156 churhes and UNESCO heritage sites, overturning gravestones...this is the fake, illegal, and immoral 'state' that most of the states that have these so called 'European Values' countries regognized.
How about the country which you claim is ready to join EU, Croatia? They hold Nazi Ustashe concerts in the middle of Zagreb, with 60,000 fans doing the sieg heil, wearing black Ustashe uniforms. They ethnically cleansed all Serbs, and have inflicted genocide against the Serbs, not just once, but twice, in WWII and in 1995!! No Serbs are allowed to come back. This is REAL genocide, and it is part of the 'European Values' by Verhagen's logic.
Serbia does not have such 'European Values', for you see, Serbs have always treated their minorites with full equal rights and respect (today the most multicultural country in the Balkans), and have never inflicted genocide on anyone, and have never been aggressors. They have always defended what is theirs, and have always been on the side of right.

Verhagen answered that the responsibility for locating, arresting and extraditing Mladić lies with Serbia, and not with international community, which, he says, Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremić has admitted.


I strongly suspects that Mladic is hiding in Kosovo. Would it be ok then if we sent in a couple of thousands soldiers and police officers to look for him? We can't stress this, they have to stay in Kosovo and search for him as long as it takes, specially the border to Albanian need to be searched since he might be hiding there ;-)

Mircea, what's the point of your list? It sounds like it came from the 90s but sorry to say, the EU has changed considerably since then and the last two members, as you know, cannot freely work in other member states for a few years yet.

Serbia's economic growth exceeded that of every single EU member! We are doing just fine out of the EU while there are many EU members who are now in real economic trouble and it is the IMF bailing them out, not the EU.

I see no problem with Visa free travel for Serbians, which we are currently working towards but having a brain drain here so our brightest can go and clean toilets for less than minimum wage is not my idea of where Serbia should be heading.

Sorry Mircea, but you have no case. As a full EU citizen with full EU rights, I have seen first hand what membership does. I had university qualified Eastern Europeans cleaning my toilet and house for next to nothing and they were everywhere. Cheap labour was plentiful and I'm glad Serbians were not part of that list. You should be glad that neither was Romania, which is why it probably had the highest economic growth within the EU.

Bganon,

I do not exclude the responsibility of the US, but somehow I find them irrelevant now since the message about European values this time came from the EU, more precisely from The Netherlands.

Yes, it is also true that the Hague tribunal is established by the UN but the message did not come from the UN as an organization, but from the EU. And no, I don’t think that Serbia should withdraw from UN.

Yes, the one may ask what The Hague has to do with the EU. But it has, as I pointed out already, The Hague is supposed to act in line with the values that the EU promotes which means applying the law equally. I am sure that the law applied in Hague is the law that is widely used or applied in most of the EU countries. Yes, this is special kind of law which deals with the war crimes. Yes, it is international law, but so what? Somehow, Hague (whose preceding judges mostly come from the EU) failed to stick to its legal principles and moral values when it comes to non-Serbs. I find this court very partial and biased. The EU from the other side turned blind eye on this shameful Hague policy and we both know how huge influence, both the EU and the USA have in Hague tribunal. . I did not expect from cowboys much, but I did however expect more values from the EU. But, silly me.

In addition, the reason I did not go further with outlining the EU values as Dragan (in his comment 8), rightfully pointed out, is just because the Netherlands mentioned Ratko Mladic’s arrest as a condition that remains for Serbia. That’s why I find a bit hardly digestible this preaching on EU values when the two previously mentioned war criminals walked free from the Hague tribunal while the EU again stays silent after such shameful decision.

The EU insults common sense of Serbian citizens by applying the policy of double standards and demonstrating the hypocrisy towards Serbia.
This kind of behaviour can be named anyhow but certainly not as “values”.

Now I should give you an answer on EU’s possible failure. Well, my personal belief that the EU is doomed to failure contributes quite much to my anti EU stand after the values that EU applies towards Serbia. I think that by joining the EU Serbia would have to invest much energy which can be used for something more useful and in some other directions. I mean, what’s the point to invest in something that barely bring any better future than we have it already now? Furthermore, the dismemberment of the EU will be no without serious consequences for the each country individually, and I think that Serbia for once should stay out without being a part of any of these sorts of unions as it may be very messy, painful and troublesome.

I am just sick and tired of the entire EU and Serbia's masochistic ambition to join this mess.

Peggy poor analogy.
To stick to ships, its the same as a ship company joining a multinational organisation that has political and economic powers that can offer benefits and minuses to its members, but has serious problems.

If the multinational organisation disbands, it will become purely free trade, without the political element. That is this shipping company and the EU.

Hardly the end of the world! The decision on whether to join the EU has nothing to do with what might happen at some point in the future, it has everything to do with the potential benefits / drawbacks facing the country in question today.

It's best to check the facts before making bold statements about how the UN war crimes tribunal is a creature of the European Union.

The UN's International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia at The Hague currently has 31 judges. Fewer than half of the judges (12) come from EU countries -- and they are not there as representatives of their governments. The majority of the judges, among them the tribunal's current president, come from countries outside the EU.

As one would expect in an institution created and funded by the United Nations, the Hague tribunal has judges from UN member states on every continent -- from countries as diverse as China, Bulgaria, Australia, Argentina, South Korea, Senegal, South Africa, and Switzerland.

"The fact that the EU might collapse on its own is not a good enough argument to not seeking membership."

Bgannon, what are you saying?
You can see trouble on the horizon but you still want to head in that direction?

It sounds similar to people lining up for tickets on the Titanic after they get warning that the ship is not built well so it has a good chance of sinking.

Mircea - I wouldn't read too much into any balkan country application. If you haven't realised it yet the EU will do everything to prevent any Balkan country entering the EU at the moment. They'll either all enter at the same time or not at all.

This debate is hopeless...there is no way for any new Eu memberships for the next 10 years (with few exceptions by some countries that are waiting for so long -CROATIA or have strong sponsor ICELAND ) ..we are in deep crisis ..our istitutions are malfunctioning (may i say so..)and we are already digesting the last "new entries"...Try the project "EAST Partnership"..There are already Moldovia-Ukraine-Belarus-Armenia etc etc...

hey mircea, how about getting "your" money from brussels, as was promised before romania got a province, before phantasizing about albania within eu.

Mircea - on your 6 points:
1)That growth was due to a huge debt buble unlikely to be repeated again the the near or medium term future
2)Can't see FDI picking up again for many years in CEE
3)funding is going to be very thin on the ground with the financial crisis
4)What benefit is the Euro when it is already hammering exports for EU countries
5)still hasn't reduced nationalism within the EU
6)i agree with this point