Sejdiu: Islamic recognitions soon

I have wondered why countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Pakistan have resisted so far? In fact I thought Saudi Arabia would be the first but look, one year on and nothing!

It really isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. Look at Palestine, it has more than half of UN members recognising it but that hasn't improved anything. Now has it?

RIP Kosovo independence. Thanks to Russia and China, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania plus the overwhelming majority of the world for supporting Serbia and international law.

Peace!

Frankly, even if this 'flood of recognitions' miraculously happens, which albanians keep telling themselves will happen, really makes no difference. We have Russia who will veto any UN seat, and Cyprus, who will block any possible EU entry, for the fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo.

We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat (which B92 for some reason did not think newsworthy).
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jERtARP1I5i6mRKM3emscVRfDIaw

Checkmate!
Cheers!!

Obama has pushed the Islamic countries now. Change we can believe in, Bush tried but couldn't do it. Hillary also went to Indonesia. The Hague verdict will be used as a pretext, so be ready.

>> "Sejdiu said that nothing could occur in Kosovo that was imposed against the will of the institutions and people of the province."

Thank you for repeating the obvious. 6 or 76 points need to be approved by the Albanians, or else nothing will happen.

We said that our request was that the UNMIK mission be ended as quickly as possible. Of course, we say that it was successful, they are not enemies of Kosovo and we say that honestly. Those are countries that participated in a common development mission in our country,”

It is a real joy to her President Sejdiu.

This gentleman is so wise, mature and it is such luck and also wisdom of kosovars that have elected such a good President.

UNMIK mission needs to end and also be thanked very honestly for their work.

As any work it could’ve been done better but we have also to acknowledge the great and unquestionable merits to UNMIK.

They managed a post- war country were half of the population (almost a million of people) remained without a roof. Unemployment was 100% and with it rising all possible imaginable problems for one society.

They and kosovars managed to put order and implement law. The abandoned economy since 1989 started to resuscitated and today we are talking about energy projects of bn of €.

The education system started again to function normally. Today we have high US education institution present in Prishtina, the health care system started working and is gradually modernized...

These are not easy things to do- especially in such a short time under such circumstances.

The three stooges were on a historical visit to the White House?

Weird, I haven't seen one report about this in the North American media.

Wishful thinking as usual. These Islamic countries do not want to be associated with the failed US project called "Kosova". Probably Hillary was begging them and in exchange promised to put pressure on Israel to create a Palestinian state. In addition, Albanians consider themselves Muslim when it comes to these kinds of wished "recognitions" (otherwise they are Albanians first). The truth of the matter is that in the eyes of strict Muslims in the countries that are supposed to recognize "Kosova" Albanians are not true Muslims. So my conclusion is that this announcement is another way to cover up for this whole failed project and to keep the Albanian hopes high (for the time being).

sweet ....

one year ago albanian camp posted "who cares about the arabs" we are going into world bank & imf.

today neither the arab world acknowledges "kosovo" nor world bank....

no mentioning of world bank anymore but kissing feet to the arabs that "no-one cares and needs" ....

sign o´the times .....

We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat (which B92 for some reason did not think newsworthy).
[link]

Checkmate!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 5 March 2009 15:14)

Way to go Michel. Kick this fake state out of touch. Great player in his day by the way and one of my childhood heroes.

As for Mr Sejdiu in the Arab world... Well he might get the Saudis and Pakistan but he will not get any Arab support as many Arab governments will not want to be seen supporting a US puppet state while millions of Palestinians holed up in refugee camps in Gaza, Lebanon and Jordan are denied their right to self determination by a brutal Zionist colonial state called Israel who is incidentally enough America's biggest ally in the Middle East.

'Kosova' symbolises the very epitome of Western Imperial double standards and hypocrisy.

Don't you people see that it really doesn't matter. The Americans aren't helping anyone here, in the end Kosovo is not independent, it is simply a puppet of the US. 'President' Sejdiu isn't in power, he is simply a little illusion. The real people in charge are on the other side of the Atlantic. Kosovo at this moment is neither independent nor is it a part of Serbia, it is a failed project.

To Dear Sirs Dragan and Milan

Yeah right, Michell Platini refused Kosova in UEFA, like that will bring Kosovo to Serbia back..

Dear Milan, sorry friend if you look from where I am standing the chance of Serbia getting Kosova are very very slim. Not even a bare minimum what do you think 1 year on of Kosova independence, which directions are things going?

Watch our everybody because sejdu is on a political mission, everyone put on your seatbelts, because he means business. What a joke!

"In addition, Albanians consider themselves Muslim when it comes to these kinds of wished "recognitions" (otherwise they are Albanians first). The truth of the matter is that in the eyes of strict Muslims in the countries that are supposed to recognize "Kosova" Albanians are not true Muslims.

Milan"

Milan, be careful what you say. The Serbs in this forum won't like that. I am Albanian, and not a muslim, but yes, the majority of the people in Kosovo are muslim. Anything wrong with that? But to say they are not real muslims, it will anger the Serbs more than it will ever will Albanians. Remember, we are supposed to be "muslim terrorists".

"We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat

Dragan"

Dragan, I saw that conference, and no, Michel Platini did not say whether Kosovo were a country or not. He simply said it is not a country recognized by the UN, which joining the UEFA would be against its statute. Even if he had said that Kosovo is not a country, who cares, seriously. I hardly think Michel Platini's words will hold any water in the political leaders of the world, those who have recognized Kosovo, or those who haven't.

And lastly, a suggestion for B92. It would be really helpful if you guys could keep the comment submit form on the same page as where the comments are displayed, for reference purposes. Thanks.

We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat (which B92 for some reason did not think newsworthy).
[link]

Checkmate!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 5 March 2009 15:14)

Does it really matter,I dont' recall an Albanian team ever even participating in a Euro or World Cup.

'Kosova' symbolises the very epitome of Western Imperial double standards and hypocrisy.
(Niall O'Doherty, 5 March 2009 16:43)

well said. it sums up the biggest problem supporters of kosovo indepenence are facing - the fact that the so-called "free world" is not exactly what they themselves say they are. personally i am not supporting kosovo's independence for precisely the same reasons. if serbs and albanians agree on something it would be much better for all.

"Toni",

There is nothing wrong with following the Islam faith if that is what you believe. I am also not that naive to label all Muslims terrorist. Using no real Muslims was probably not the best choice of words. Truth of the matter is that many Balkan Muslims still have many dietary habits that seem to conflict with certain important aspects of Islam (which could be a concern for many potential supporters). It is also true that many Albanians who visit this site and share their comments with us seem to use their faith as an argument whenever it suits them. It is known that the KLA had close contacts with Al Queda and that there is little objection to all the religious construction activities in Kosovo (sponsored by countries that do not want to recognize your UDI). It is also quite clear that very few Albanians at this site are openly supporting the Palestinians and nobody is criticizing Israel even though they will also never recognize your UDI (you are afraid to anger your US masters who will always choose Israel over you). It is also known that the KLA was terrorizing many Albanians in Kosovo to reach their objectives.

Even if the entire muslim world recognizes Kosovo, it will not really change anything. Until Russia, China, Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia AND Cyprus recognize Kosovo (who incidently I seriously doubt Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have any power to influence with regards to changing their minds on recognition, despite what the Albanians here think, perhaps only God himself has the power to do so), everything will stay the same, as has been seen with Palestine who have more recognitions than Kosovo. Since they are pushing for NATO and EU membership, they need the recognition of EVERY SINGLE member, otherwise they will continue to be a half-baked, third world "state".

If this is true, its about time.

Russia’s influence in the Islamic World is as big as the US influence in EU. So no massive recognition is to be discussed. 1 or 2 Emirates maximum ! All the rest Muslim states will not mud themselves by helping the Kafir’s puppet ruled by Shaitans to be judged.

Besides they are not interested in new drugs suppliers and car stealers. Why should they go the Iblis’ route ? Albanians has already reached the top of their recognition cause 25% of the registered states is a real success of the UD SD.

Ben, you lost me!
"It is a real joy to her President Sejdu.
This gentleman is so wise, mature and it is such luck and also wisdom of kosovars that have elected such a good President"
At first I thought somebody was sarcastic, but then I realized that it was accolade in the greatest style of Stalin-Mao-Tito era in a single pile.
But then there was something about great achievements...

"We have Russia who will veto any UN seat, and Cyprus, who will block any possible EU entry, for the fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo."

and we have 22 nations that will block you EU membership unless...

Alban, I see you insist on kidding yourself.
Not one country has said they will block Seriba's entry into EU if they don't recognize Kosovo. On the contrary, they all say they want Serbia in EU and that is not a condition.
Where did you hear anything different?

Without UN membership you can't even play soccer. Do you not see how you will not amount to anything EVER unless you get into UN? This will never happen.
So, Serbia's entry into EU is only a matter of time, sadly as I don't agree withit, but your entry int UN will not happen.

"Thank you for repeating the obvious. 6 or 76 points need to be approved by the Albanians, or else nothing will happen."

but the whole independence thing didn't have to be approved by the serbs?

Originally, Pakistan, Saudia Arabia, and Qatar did not care about Kosovo independence. What did Hillary Clinton and the USA do to make these nations care? What is the USA offering these nations to make them be pro Kosovo? And why is Serbia made to live in the dog house under the USA's exertion instead of respecting Serbia for the nation that it is? What is the USA up to? What is the plan of the USA?

NIk

Its pretty simple mate, its because Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be. The Albanians (not bandits like Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and their followers) can and will be a part of Kosovo but within Serbia. Choose whether you want your children to live fruitful lives as part of a modern state or whether you want to continue living in a hole. The Kosovo you see now is not serving the general interests of the Albanian people. Those "leaders" are selling your future down the drain. They will make their money and then disappear.

Cyprus is in talks with Turkey, once peace is reached they will recognize Kosova.
(Alban, 5 March 2009 19:45)

Alban,

Turkey is not in direct talks with Cyprus because Ankara doesnt recognise the government in Nicosia as representing the whole of the island. What is happening right now is that the Cypriot President Christofias is in talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Talat. No doubt Ankara is pulling the strings in the background using the Turkish Cypriots to convey their message.

Alban, regarding Cyprus its early days yet but i'm optimistic that a deal can be reached between both communities regarding property rights, the right of return with freedom of movement for all, the presence of the Turkish armed forces and mainland Anatolian settlers.

Sorry for wandering off topic but we should keep an eye on what happens.

"We have Russia who will veto any UN seat, and Cyprus, who will block any possible EU entry, for the fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo."

and we have 22 nations that will block you EU membership unless...

Cyprus is in talks with Turkey, once peace is reached they will recognize Kosova.

I love reading the comment section of this site.
Most of the anti-Kosovo camp who continually get on here to brag we have Russia, Russia will take care of Serbia, You have to remember Russia. Also throw in China, but I do not recall China ever threatening a veto, only Serbia saying it for them. Then comes the punch line where Kosovo is called a "puppet state" of the US. One has to wonder if you asked permission from Russia to make such a bold staement.
The important thing is not memberships into sports org, etc, at this point but that Kosovo is free from Serbian oppression, which will be guaranteed for a long time by guess who--Russia among others. The rest will come in time

Without UN membership you can't even play soccer. Do you not see how you will not amount to anything EVER unless you get into UN? This will never happen.
So, Serbia's entry into EU is only a matter of time, sadly as I don't agree withit, but your entry int UN will not happen.


Peggy, it is clear that Serbia can cause more harm to Kosovo than Kosovo could harm Serbia. But what good that brings to you? Kosovo is a millstone on Serbia’s neck. It may not pull Serbia to the bottom of the sea, but it has been slowing its progress for at least two decades.

Contributor @ 26 says:

'Its pretty simple mate, its because Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be.'

Well, the reality on the ground is different. Facts speak much louder than words.

'The Albanians (not bandits like Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and their followers) can and will be a part of Kosovo but within Serbia.'

And pigs will fly.

'Choose whether you want your children to live fruitful lives as part of a modern state or whether you want to continue living in a hole.'

Kosova and its people have chosen to live free and are building a prosperous future. Serbia has always wanted Kosova but without the Albanians living there. Well, you can't have both and in fact you lost both.

"Its pretty simple mate, its because Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be. The Albanians (not bandits like Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and their followers) can and will be a part of Kosovo but within Serbia. Choose whether you want your children to live fruitful lives as part of a modern state or whether you want to continue living in a hole. The Kosovo you see now is not serving the general interests of the Albanian people. Those "leaders" are selling your future down the drain. They will make their money and then disappear.
Nick"

Nick, we would rather live poor, but with dignity, than in a modern state who considers us second class citizens. Remember, brother, we lived under this "modern" state. The state of Serbia. And they killed us. How could one in the right mind agree to live under a country, that once (and by once I mean less than 10 years), killed them, persecuted them, tortured them, deported them, ethnic cleansed them and what not.
It seems like a suicide wish to me.

And regarding your reply to my comment about the albanians being muslim, you said that it is known that KLA had ties with Al-Qaida. I would like to smoke whatever you are. Indeed, it is know that Al-Qaida offered to help in the war, but KLA refused. They refused for the precise facts that you mentioned about Albanians being very secular muslims who do not keep their muslim faith. See, we identify ourselves as Albanians, Blakanians (is that a word?), Europians, first, than we do as muslims.

So your theory and propaganda about Al-Qaida and KLA, simply does not hold water. Sorry bro, I think I can speak better than you on the issue, because I am a firsthand witness. My uncle and cousins were in the KLA. All fought in different parts of Kosovo, and none of them had ever seen an Al-Qaida face ever.

However, the situation in Bosnia is different. Poor people weren't getting any help or rescue from the west, so they had to accept whatever help they were offered, just to save themselves from the brutality of the Serbian forces. Maybe Albanians would have accepted the help of the Al-Qaida if US and western countries stood "neutral" during this war.

Cheers.

Tony wrote,

So your theory and propaganda about Al-Qaida and KLA, simply does not hold water. Sorry bro, I think I can speak better than you on the issue, because I am a firsthand witness. My uncle and cousins were in the KLA. All fought in different parts of Kosovo, and none of them had ever seen an Al-Qaida face ever.

Then who were the K-Albanians at Fort Dix and what were they trying to accomplish?
KLA was registered as a terrorist organisation until the US took it off that list for their own purposes. What was KLA doing on a terrorist list in the first place?



"Peggy, it is clear that Serbia can cause more harm to Kosovo than Kosovo could harm Serbia. But what good that brings to you? Kosovo is a millstone on Serbia’s neck. It may not pull Serbia to the bottom of the sea, but it has been slowing its progress for at least two decades."
(nik, 6 March 2009 11:12)

Sure you can slow us down but you cannot stop us. Turkey was a noose around our neck for 500 years but eventually they got kicked out. It won't be anywhere near that this time.

We can wait, can you last that long?

In spite of all the rhetoric coming from the Serb camp, I'm sure that deep down they know Kosova will enter the UN much sooner than Serbia enters the EU, if ever.

Frankly, Serbia has too much baggage from the past regime, and instead of trying to shed this extra baggage, she willingly adds on more. For example, all the ridiculous and grandstanding accusations it makes against it Balkan neighbors. This is not something the EU is comfortable with. Many members of the EU have said as much. Not a good omen for Serbia.

Peggy, Milan,
I am not an Albanian and I have never been to Kosovo. It is unnerving to see a country so obstinate, causing problems to the whole region.
You just have to be more pragmatic!
1. “Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be”
How did you reach that conclusion? Kosovo was Roman, Byzantine, Bulgarian, Serbian, Ottoman and Yugoslavian in the different historical periods. True, within SFRY it was legally connected to Serbia, but as the Serb nationalists in the 80’s rightfully pointed out that Kosovo had the means to influence Serbia, but Serbia had no means to influence Kosovo! A large autonomy now would only make Serbia a hostage!
2. Forget about the present Kosovar leaders! Imagine them gone! A reintegration of Kosovo to Serbia would be a catastrophe for Serbia. With two million K. Albanians as Serbian citizens, Serbia is bound to become a by-national state! A two state solution is the only way Serbia could preserve its Serbian character.

I have wondered why countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Pakistan have resisted so far? In fact I thought Saudi Arabia would be the first but look, one year on and nothing!

It really isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. Look at Palestine, it has more than half of UN members recognising it but that hasn't improved anything. Now has it?

RIP Kosovo independence. Thanks to Russia and China, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania plus the overwhelming majority of the world for supporting Serbia and international law.

Peace!

The three stooges were on a historical visit to the White House?

Weird, I haven't seen one report about this in the North American media.

Obama has pushed the Islamic countries now. Change we can believe in, Bush tried but couldn't do it. Hillary also went to Indonesia. The Hague verdict will be used as a pretext, so be ready.

>> "Sejdiu said that nothing could occur in Kosovo that was imposed against the will of the institutions and people of the province."

Thank you for repeating the obvious. 6 or 76 points need to be approved by the Albanians, or else nothing will happen.

We said that our request was that the UNMIK mission be ended as quickly as possible. Of course, we say that it was successful, they are not enemies of Kosovo and we say that honestly. Those are countries that participated in a common development mission in our country,”

It is a real joy to her President Sejdiu.

This gentleman is so wise, mature and it is such luck and also wisdom of kosovars that have elected such a good President.

UNMIK mission needs to end and also be thanked very honestly for their work.

As any work it could’ve been done better but we have also to acknowledge the great and unquestionable merits to UNMIK.

They managed a post- war country were half of the population (almost a million of people) remained without a roof. Unemployment was 100% and with it rising all possible imaginable problems for one society.

They and kosovars managed to put order and implement law. The abandoned economy since 1989 started to resuscitated and today we are talking about energy projects of bn of €.

The education system started again to function normally. Today we have high US education institution present in Prishtina, the health care system started working and is gradually modernized...

These are not easy things to do- especially in such a short time under such circumstances.

Wishful thinking as usual. These Islamic countries do not want to be associated with the failed US project called "Kosova". Probably Hillary was begging them and in exchange promised to put pressure on Israel to create a Palestinian state. In addition, Albanians consider themselves Muslim when it comes to these kinds of wished "recognitions" (otherwise they are Albanians first). The truth of the matter is that in the eyes of strict Muslims in the countries that are supposed to recognize "Kosova" Albanians are not true Muslims. So my conclusion is that this announcement is another way to cover up for this whole failed project and to keep the Albanian hopes high (for the time being).

If this is true, its about time.

sweet ....

one year ago albanian camp posted "who cares about the arabs" we are going into world bank & imf.

today neither the arab world acknowledges "kosovo" nor world bank....

no mentioning of world bank anymore but kissing feet to the arabs that "no-one cares and needs" ....

sign o´the times .....

Frankly, even if this 'flood of recognitions' miraculously happens, which albanians keep telling themselves will happen, really makes no difference. We have Russia who will veto any UN seat, and Cyprus, who will block any possible EU entry, for the fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo.

We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat (which B92 for some reason did not think newsworthy).
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jERtARP1I5i6mRKM3emscVRfDIaw

Checkmate!
Cheers!!

To Dear Sirs Dragan and Milan

Yeah right, Michell Platini refused Kosova in UEFA, like that will bring Kosovo to Serbia back..

Dear Milan, sorry friend if you look from where I am standing the chance of Serbia getting Kosova are very very slim. Not even a bare minimum what do you think 1 year on of Kosova independence, which directions are things going?

"In addition, Albanians consider themselves Muslim when it comes to these kinds of wished "recognitions" (otherwise they are Albanians first). The truth of the matter is that in the eyes of strict Muslims in the countries that are supposed to recognize "Kosova" Albanians are not true Muslims.

Milan"

Milan, be careful what you say. The Serbs in this forum won't like that. I am Albanian, and not a muslim, but yes, the majority of the people in Kosovo are muslim. Anything wrong with that? But to say they are not real muslims, it will anger the Serbs more than it will ever will Albanians. Remember, we are supposed to be "muslim terrorists".

"We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat

Dragan"

Dragan, I saw that conference, and no, Michel Platini did not say whether Kosovo were a country or not. He simply said it is not a country recognized by the UN, which joining the UEFA would be against its statute. Even if he had said that Kosovo is not a country, who cares, seriously. I hardly think Michel Platini's words will hold any water in the political leaders of the world, those who have recognized Kosovo, or those who haven't.

And lastly, a suggestion for B92. It would be really helpful if you guys could keep the comment submit form on the same page as where the comments are displayed, for reference purposes. Thanks.

"We have Russia who will veto any UN seat, and Cyprus, who will block any possible EU entry, for the fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo."

and we have 22 nations that will block you EU membership unless...

Cyprus is in talks with Turkey, once peace is reached they will recognize Kosova.

Watch our everybody because sejdu is on a political mission, everyone put on your seatbelts, because he means business. What a joke!

We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat (which B92 for some reason did not think newsworthy).
[link]

Checkmate!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 5 March 2009 15:14)

Way to go Michel. Kick this fake state out of touch. Great player in his day by the way and one of my childhood heroes.

As for Mr Sejdiu in the Arab world... Well he might get the Saudis and Pakistan but he will not get any Arab support as many Arab governments will not want to be seen supporting a US puppet state while millions of Palestinians holed up in refugee camps in Gaza, Lebanon and Jordan are denied their right to self determination by a brutal Zionist colonial state called Israel who is incidentally enough America's biggest ally in the Middle East.

'Kosova' symbolises the very epitome of Western Imperial double standards and hypocrisy.

Contributor @ 26 says:

'Its pretty simple mate, its because Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be.'

Well, the reality on the ground is different. Facts speak much louder than words.

'The Albanians (not bandits like Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and their followers) can and will be a part of Kosovo but within Serbia.'

And pigs will fly.

'Choose whether you want your children to live fruitful lives as part of a modern state or whether you want to continue living in a hole.'

Kosova and its people have chosen to live free and are building a prosperous future. Serbia has always wanted Kosova but without the Albanians living there. Well, you can't have both and in fact you lost both.

We also have Michel Platini, the UEFA president, who has just told you that Kosovo is not a country and can not be part of a world football federation without a UN seat (which B92 for some reason did not think newsworthy).
[link]

Checkmate!
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 5 March 2009 15:14)

Does it really matter,I dont' recall an Albanian team ever even participating in a Euro or World Cup.

I love reading the comment section of this site.
Most of the anti-Kosovo camp who continually get on here to brag we have Russia, Russia will take care of Serbia, You have to remember Russia. Also throw in China, but I do not recall China ever threatening a veto, only Serbia saying it for them. Then comes the punch line where Kosovo is called a "puppet state" of the US. One has to wonder if you asked permission from Russia to make such a bold staement.
The important thing is not memberships into sports org, etc, at this point but that Kosovo is free from Serbian oppression, which will be guaranteed for a long time by guess who--Russia among others. The rest will come in time

Don't you people see that it really doesn't matter. The Americans aren't helping anyone here, in the end Kosovo is not independent, it is simply a puppet of the US. 'President' Sejdiu isn't in power, he is simply a little illusion. The real people in charge are on the other side of the Atlantic. Kosovo at this moment is neither independent nor is it a part of Serbia, it is a failed project.

'Kosova' symbolises the very epitome of Western Imperial double standards and hypocrisy.
(Niall O'Doherty, 5 March 2009 16:43)

well said. it sums up the biggest problem supporters of kosovo indepenence are facing - the fact that the so-called "free world" is not exactly what they themselves say they are. personally i am not supporting kosovo's independence for precisely the same reasons. if serbs and albanians agree on something it would be much better for all.

"Toni",

There is nothing wrong with following the Islam faith if that is what you believe. I am also not that naive to label all Muslims terrorist. Using no real Muslims was probably not the best choice of words. Truth of the matter is that many Balkan Muslims still have many dietary habits that seem to conflict with certain important aspects of Islam (which could be a concern for many potential supporters). It is also true that many Albanians who visit this site and share their comments with us seem to use their faith as an argument whenever it suits them. It is known that the KLA had close contacts with Al Queda and that there is little objection to all the religious construction activities in Kosovo (sponsored by countries that do not want to recognize your UDI). It is also quite clear that very few Albanians at this site are openly supporting the Palestinians and nobody is criticizing Israel even though they will also never recognize your UDI (you are afraid to anger your US masters who will always choose Israel over you). It is also known that the KLA was terrorizing many Albanians in Kosovo to reach their objectives.

"Thank you for repeating the obvious. 6 or 76 points need to be approved by the Albanians, or else nothing will happen."

but the whole independence thing didn't have to be approved by the serbs?

"We have Russia who will veto any UN seat, and Cyprus, who will block any possible EU entry, for the fake, illegal and immoral 'state' of Kosovo."

and we have 22 nations that will block you EU membership unless...

Alban, I see you insist on kidding yourself.
Not one country has said they will block Seriba's entry into EU if they don't recognize Kosovo. On the contrary, they all say they want Serbia in EU and that is not a condition.
Where did you hear anything different?

Without UN membership you can't even play soccer. Do you not see how you will not amount to anything EVER unless you get into UN? This will never happen.
So, Serbia's entry into EU is only a matter of time, sadly as I don't agree withit, but your entry int UN will not happen.

Without UN membership you can't even play soccer. Do you not see how you will not amount to anything EVER unless you get into UN? This will never happen.
So, Serbia's entry into EU is only a matter of time, sadly as I don't agree withit, but your entry int UN will not happen.


Peggy, it is clear that Serbia can cause more harm to Kosovo than Kosovo could harm Serbia. But what good that brings to you? Kosovo is a millstone on Serbia’s neck. It may not pull Serbia to the bottom of the sea, but it has been slowing its progress for at least two decades.

Ben, you lost me!
"It is a real joy to her President Sejdu.
This gentleman is so wise, mature and it is such luck and also wisdom of kosovars that have elected such a good President"
At first I thought somebody was sarcastic, but then I realized that it was accolade in the greatest style of Stalin-Mao-Tito era in a single pile.
But then there was something about great achievements...

In spite of all the rhetoric coming from the Serb camp, I'm sure that deep down they know Kosova will enter the UN much sooner than Serbia enters the EU, if ever.

Frankly, Serbia has too much baggage from the past regime, and instead of trying to shed this extra baggage, she willingly adds on more. For example, all the ridiculous and grandstanding accusations it makes against it Balkan neighbors. This is not something the EU is comfortable with. Many members of the EU have said as much. Not a good omen for Serbia.

Russia’s influence in the Islamic World is as big as the US influence in EU. So no massive recognition is to be discussed. 1 or 2 Emirates maximum ! All the rest Muslim states will not mud themselves by helping the Kafir’s puppet ruled by Shaitans to be judged.

Besides they are not interested in new drugs suppliers and car stealers. Why should they go the Iblis’ route ? Albanians has already reached the top of their recognition cause 25% of the registered states is a real success of the UD SD.

Even if the entire muslim world recognizes Kosovo, it will not really change anything. Until Russia, China, Spain, Romania, Greece, Slovakia AND Cyprus recognize Kosovo (who incidently I seriously doubt Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have any power to influence with regards to changing their minds on recognition, despite what the Albanians here think, perhaps only God himself has the power to do so), everything will stay the same, as has been seen with Palestine who have more recognitions than Kosovo. Since they are pushing for NATO and EU membership, they need the recognition of EVERY SINGLE member, otherwise they will continue to be a half-baked, third world "state".

NIk

Its pretty simple mate, its because Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be. The Albanians (not bandits like Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and their followers) can and will be a part of Kosovo but within Serbia. Choose whether you want your children to live fruitful lives as part of a modern state or whether you want to continue living in a hole. The Kosovo you see now is not serving the general interests of the Albanian people. Those "leaders" are selling your future down the drain. They will make their money and then disappear.

"Its pretty simple mate, its because Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be. The Albanians (not bandits like Thaci, Haradinaj, Ceku and their followers) can and will be a part of Kosovo but within Serbia. Choose whether you want your children to live fruitful lives as part of a modern state or whether you want to continue living in a hole. The Kosovo you see now is not serving the general interests of the Albanian people. Those "leaders" are selling your future down the drain. They will make their money and then disappear.
Nick"

Nick, we would rather live poor, but with dignity, than in a modern state who considers us second class citizens. Remember, brother, we lived under this "modern" state. The state of Serbia. And they killed us. How could one in the right mind agree to live under a country, that once (and by once I mean less than 10 years), killed them, persecuted them, tortured them, deported them, ethnic cleansed them and what not.
It seems like a suicide wish to me.

And regarding your reply to my comment about the albanians being muslim, you said that it is known that KLA had ties with Al-Qaida. I would like to smoke whatever you are. Indeed, it is know that Al-Qaida offered to help in the war, but KLA refused. They refused for the precise facts that you mentioned about Albanians being very secular muslims who do not keep their muslim faith. See, we identify ourselves as Albanians, Blakanians (is that a word?), Europians, first, than we do as muslims.

So your theory and propaganda about Al-Qaida and KLA, simply does not hold water. Sorry bro, I think I can speak better than you on the issue, because I am a firsthand witness. My uncle and cousins were in the KLA. All fought in different parts of Kosovo, and none of them had ever seen an Al-Qaida face ever.

However, the situation in Bosnia is different. Poor people weren't getting any help or rescue from the west, so they had to accept whatever help they were offered, just to save themselves from the brutality of the Serbian forces. Maybe Albanians would have accepted the help of the Al-Qaida if US and western countries stood "neutral" during this war.

Cheers.

Peggy, Milan,
I am not an Albanian and I have never been to Kosovo. It is unnerving to see a country so obstinate, causing problems to the whole region.
You just have to be more pragmatic!
1. “Kosovo and Metohija is Serbian land. It always has and always will be”
How did you reach that conclusion? Kosovo was Roman, Byzantine, Bulgarian, Serbian, Ottoman and Yugoslavian in the different historical periods. True, within SFRY it was legally connected to Serbia, but as the Serb nationalists in the 80’s rightfully pointed out that Kosovo had the means to influence Serbia, but Serbia had no means to influence Kosovo! A large autonomy now would only make Serbia a hostage!
2. Forget about the present Kosovar leaders! Imagine them gone! A reintegration of Kosovo to Serbia would be a catastrophe for Serbia. With two million K. Albanians as Serbian citizens, Serbia is bound to become a by-national state! A two state solution is the only way Serbia could preserve its Serbian character.

Originally, Pakistan, Saudia Arabia, and Qatar did not care about Kosovo independence. What did Hillary Clinton and the USA do to make these nations care? What is the USA offering these nations to make them be pro Kosovo? And why is Serbia made to live in the dog house under the USA's exertion instead of respecting Serbia for the nation that it is? What is the USA up to? What is the plan of the USA?

Cyprus is in talks with Turkey, once peace is reached they will recognize Kosova.
(Alban, 5 March 2009 19:45)

Alban,

Turkey is not in direct talks with Cyprus because Ankara doesnt recognise the government in Nicosia as representing the whole of the island. What is happening right now is that the Cypriot President Christofias is in talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Talat. No doubt Ankara is pulling the strings in the background using the Turkish Cypriots to convey their message.

Alban, regarding Cyprus its early days yet but i'm optimistic that a deal can be reached between both communities regarding property rights, the right of return with freedom of movement for all, the presence of the Turkish armed forces and mainland Anatolian settlers.

Sorry for wandering off topic but we should keep an eye on what happens.

Tony wrote,

So your theory and propaganda about Al-Qaida and KLA, simply does not hold water. Sorry bro, I think I can speak better than you on the issue, because I am a firsthand witness. My uncle and cousins were in the KLA. All fought in different parts of Kosovo, and none of them had ever seen an Al-Qaida face ever.

Then who were the K-Albanians at Fort Dix and what were they trying to accomplish?
KLA was registered as a terrorist organisation until the US took it off that list for their own purposes. What was KLA doing on a terrorist list in the first place?



"Peggy, it is clear that Serbia can cause more harm to Kosovo than Kosovo could harm Serbia. But what good that brings to you? Kosovo is a millstone on Serbia’s neck. It may not pull Serbia to the bottom of the sea, but it has been slowing its progress for at least two decades."
(nik, 6 March 2009 11:12)

Sure you can slow us down but you cannot stop us. Turkey was a noose around our neck for 500 years but eventually they got kicked out. It won't be anywhere near that this time.

We can wait, can you last that long?