If a smallest slight of damage were to happen to these churches, Albanians would get chewed out by the EU and the UN. This is a good test. It may actually be better for Serbia if these churches are attacked under Kosovo Police.
(Gojko, 4 March 2009 20:27)
Attacked by who, or you mean Serbian MUP agents will do the attacking so as to blame it on Albanians, RIGHT?
Dear Gojko,
To clear the misunderstanding: I am NOT Albanian, and I certainly did not try to find any "excuses" for that side. I just was too disgusted about this newest stupidity in the charade called independent state of "Kosova" and I was referring to pitiful laments of L.Greshta that COULD be conveniently used as an excuse, never mind how poor and ridiculous.You yourself explained that in the very best way; nothing to be added!
On a more personal note, you must be very young if you never heard the donkey and the wolf saying.It is being used when an irreparable damage is done,it is so obvious, it is known who's done it, but nothing was done to prevent it in the first place and nothing afterwards. So, I personally would not put to high hopes into EU for that matter (the tree you mentioned), but then again, I may view the past in a different way than you do.
Your excuses are over! If you want to be a "country" you shouldn't have people guarding those churches in the first place. The EU and UN will not be able to protect you forever. Things like budgets, not enough police force, is what every country deals with.
You Albanians want "Kosova", but do not want the responsibility. Keep searching for excuses and short cuts like you say and lean on the EU.
Thats a great way to build a "country"?
As for your saying,
"The wolf ate the donkey and the hooves remained"?
Never heard of that one.
If you are referring to Serbs as Donkeys that is a disgrace!
I will make up my own saying. The wolf ate the donkey, but the wolf was tied to a tree grown by the EU.
@ Gojko
So sorry, Gojko, but you are wrong. EU would not chew up anybody since there is a valid excuse given in advance for anything that might happen to anything Serbian and Serbs in Kosovo: police is understaffed, we told you that, it was an additional burden, so what you're gonna do now?
Remember the saying "The wolf ate the donkey and the hooves remained"?
Regards
If a smallest slight of damage were to happen to these churches, Albanians would get chewed out by the EU and the UN. This is a good test. It may actually be better for Serbia if these churches are attacked under Kosovo Police.
And what about Dubrovnik? That always was a Serbian city, I believe.
MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 4 March 2009 14:53)
Really? It is why Serbian army saw it in its own right to shell the ancient city. An UNESCO World heritage site brutally attacked by Serbia's army. What's up with that!!
(miri, 4 March 2009, 17:40)
You need to get your facts straight. It was not bombed by "Serbia" but was under seige by the JNA , and at that time under Yugoslavia which included all the federated republics.
General Strugal was convicted (he is not fully Serb) by the Hague Tribunal and in fact, the case is not clear on how and why Dubrovnik was bombed.
However, Strugal did order the shelling of Dubrovnik according to the Hague Tribunal transcripts and showed did show regret for the civilian and and any instrasture damage.
However, it is clear that the Serbian Library was burned down by the Croatian para-military forces who continued to incite the JNA in and around Dubrovnik including Prevlaka.
Montenegrins groups were also accused of looting in both Dubrovnik and Prevlaka.
The JNA was in a precarious positon between Croatian, Serb and Bosnian paramiliary forces during the outbreak of the war. Over 175 JNA officers were murdered in Bosnia-Herzegoniva and more in Slovenia during the civil outbreak. Most JNA army barracks were laid under siege across Croatia , B&H.
Its easy to blame the largest republic of Serbia for everything, but the facts are that the Yugoslav federation was run by a Croatian Vice President Markovic and the current President of Croatia Mesic. Further, the JNA General Chief of Staff was Kadijevic, again a mixed Serb/Croat. Many of its ranks included membership from all the Yugoslav republics.
Slobodan Milsovic was the president of the republic of Serbia and the Hague Tribunal failed to link him to the JNA and or Yugoslav federation early in the civil war.
Dubrovnik was never really a "Serbian " or "Croatian City" , most of its history was as the seperate republic of Ragusa as well as being part of the Venecia empire.
Naive, ignorant and arrogant EU still busy as bees and ants digging themseleves into a hole where they will remain, filling it up with their citizens' tax $$$ for as long as a handful of Justice-minded Serbs remain on planet Earth. . Is this the way you think you are going to accomplish lasting peace in the Balkan, by back-stabbing the Serbs and insulting them and their intelligence after EVERY deal and agreement you make and sign with them? Do you really foolishly believe that you can steal Serbia's Identity, Serbia's cradle of civilization, Serbia's blood sacrifice, Serbia's conscience, Serbia's legal and rightful territory that has been illegaly invaded by REAL ethnic cleansers and monsters who harvest our family members' organs and sell them on the black market? How many more deaths around the world caused by your MISGUIDED illusions will it take before you realize that too many innocent people have died??? The answer is not in the world that you live in and think that you control and manipulate.
Truth be told, there's little Serbia can do in a place like Prizren which is well outside their sphere of control.
I find it interesting though that Bogorodica Ljeviska makes the list of "new" churches though. Yes it's "newer" than Studenica, but 14th century? Probably because there's hardly any Serbs left in Prizren, making this little more than monitoring a sacked and looted museum.
I think we all know where this is heading. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Funds for failed Western policies are running out and we all know Kosovo independence is dead. In the past two months as many Americans have become unemployed as people live in Kosovo so I wonder who will be given priority? Americans or failed entities run by terrorists and criminals?
As NATO scales back it has no option but to put their role in the hands of terrorists and hope for the best. I'm fairly certain they are going to make a complete mess of it. Serbian forces now need to be on standby as any repeat of March 2004 will be the final nail in the coffin of this so-called "Kosova" failure.
Momentum is building up and we are getting stronger by the day.
Outside of this bastardization created by the West, is there any supposed "democratic, multi-ethnic state" that is run by thieves and murderers and requires constant protection of Christian places of worship -- and on a Christian continent!?
I believe that even Iran affords more freedom and liberties for its christians than this 'kosova'travesty?
“Without our knowledge, permission or agreement, it isn’t possible to do something like this. "
Apparently it is as Ahtisaari plan is being implemented..
>> "No one asked us or consulted us about that, even informally. Therefore, our government representatives need to raise the question of whether EULEX’s stay in Kosovo is legitimate,” said Artemije."
They knew the answer so they didnt; want to bother you. And your government has already approved EULEX. In fact they invited it in after declaring independence.
"Kosovo police will largely watch over newly restored churches and monasteries, the majority of which were damaged during the troubles of March 2004."
B92, it is a novelty for me, Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren is a "new" building. True, it was damaged in March 2004 - but it has a tremendous value. Bishop Artemije is 100% right. IMO, that historical monument ALONE does ask for roughly the same level of protection like Decani. That church is the MAIN attraction in Prizren.
WOW, something is definitely not right when you need police guarding churches. What a wonderfully multicultural and accepting society Kosovo has become!
This is rather unbelievable.We now have KLA terrorists, who simply switched uniforms, guarding Serbian churches. The Serbian army should indeed be on standby. Otherwise, more of our history, culture and heritage will be torched.
The Kosovo Police will watch over newly restored churches and monasteries most of which were destroyed in 2004! Well,well what next? Truth be told 30 churches and monasteries were destroyed in March 2004 . the other 120, that we know of, (the Serbian church does not have access to some areas are they are too dangerous to travel to)were destroyed during the campaign of terror unleashed on the Serbs and their cultural heritage between 1999 - 2004.I interviewed people who were living in the YU building in Pristina, when they were attacked in March 2004 and they saw KPS police with the mob throwing molotov cocktails at them. So it is like asking Frankenstein's monster to look after the kindergarten!And for Dr. Frankenstein read Attishari.
WOW, something is definitely not right when you need police guarding churches. What a wonderfully multicultural and accepting society Kosovo has become!
This is rather unbelievable.We now have KLA terrorists, who simply switched uniforms, guarding Serbian churches. The Serbian army should indeed be on standby. Otherwise, more of our history, culture and heritage will be torched.
"Kosovo police will largely watch over newly restored churches and monasteries, the majority of which were damaged during the troubles of March 2004."
B92, it is a novelty for me, Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren is a "new" building. True, it was damaged in March 2004 - but it has a tremendous value. Bishop Artemije is 100% right. IMO, that historical monument ALONE does ask for roughly the same level of protection like Decani. That church is the MAIN attraction in Prizren.
Outside of this bastardization created by the West, is there any supposed "democratic, multi-ethnic state" that is run by thieves and murderers and requires constant protection of Christian places of worship -- and on a Christian continent!?
I believe that even Iran affords more freedom and liberties for its christians than this 'kosova'travesty?
I think we all know where this is heading. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Funds for failed Western policies are running out and we all know Kosovo independence is dead. In the past two months as many Americans have become unemployed as people live in Kosovo so I wonder who will be given priority? Americans or failed entities run by terrorists and criminals?
As NATO scales back it has no option but to put their role in the hands of terrorists and hope for the best. I'm fairly certain they are going to make a complete mess of it. Serbian forces now need to be on standby as any repeat of March 2004 will be the final nail in the coffin of this so-called "Kosova" failure.
Momentum is building up and we are getting stronger by the day.
The Kosovo Police will watch over newly restored churches and monasteries most of which were destroyed in 2004! Well,well what next? Truth be told 30 churches and monasteries were destroyed in March 2004 . the other 120, that we know of, (the Serbian church does not have access to some areas are they are too dangerous to travel to)were destroyed during the campaign of terror unleashed on the Serbs and their cultural heritage between 1999 - 2004.I interviewed people who were living in the YU building in Pristina, when they were attacked in March 2004 and they saw KPS police with the mob throwing molotov cocktails at them. So it is like asking Frankenstein's monster to look after the kindergarten!And for Dr. Frankenstein read Attishari.
Naive, ignorant and arrogant EU still busy as bees and ants digging themseleves into a hole where they will remain, filling it up with their citizens' tax $$$ for as long as a handful of Justice-minded Serbs remain on planet Earth. . Is this the way you think you are going to accomplish lasting peace in the Balkan, by back-stabbing the Serbs and insulting them and their intelligence after EVERY deal and agreement you make and sign with them? Do you really foolishly believe that you can steal Serbia's Identity, Serbia's cradle of civilization, Serbia's blood sacrifice, Serbia's conscience, Serbia's legal and rightful territory that has been illegaly invaded by REAL ethnic cleansers and monsters who harvest our family members' organs and sell them on the black market? How many more deaths around the world caused by your MISGUIDED illusions will it take before you realize that too many innocent people have died??? The answer is not in the world that you live in and think that you control and manipulate.
And what about Dubrovnik? That always was a Serbian city, I believe.
MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 4 March 2009 14:53)
Really? It is why Serbian army saw it in its own right to shell the ancient city. An UNESCO World heritage site brutally attacked by Serbia's army. What's up with that!!
(miri, 4 March 2009, 17:40)
You need to get your facts straight. It was not bombed by "Serbia" but was under seige by the JNA , and at that time under Yugoslavia which included all the federated republics.
General Strugal was convicted (he is not fully Serb) by the Hague Tribunal and in fact, the case is not clear on how and why Dubrovnik was bombed.
However, Strugal did order the shelling of Dubrovnik according to the Hague Tribunal transcripts and showed did show regret for the civilian and and any instrasture damage.
However, it is clear that the Serbian Library was burned down by the Croatian para-military forces who continued to incite the JNA in and around Dubrovnik including Prevlaka.
Montenegrins groups were also accused of looting in both Dubrovnik and Prevlaka.
The JNA was in a precarious positon between Croatian, Serb and Bosnian paramiliary forces during the outbreak of the war. Over 175 JNA officers were murdered in Bosnia-Herzegoniva and more in Slovenia during the civil outbreak. Most JNA army barracks were laid under siege across Croatia , B&H.
Its easy to blame the largest republic of Serbia for everything, but the facts are that the Yugoslav federation was run by a Croatian Vice President Markovic and the current President of Croatia Mesic. Further, the JNA General Chief of Staff was Kadijevic, again a mixed Serb/Croat. Many of its ranks included membership from all the Yugoslav republics.
Slobodan Milsovic was the president of the republic of Serbia and the Hague Tribunal failed to link him to the JNA and or Yugoslav federation early in the civil war.
Dubrovnik was never really a "Serbian " or "Croatian City" , most of its history was as the seperate republic of Ragusa as well as being part of the Venecia empire.
Truth be told, there's little Serbia can do in a place like Prizren which is well outside their sphere of control.
I find it interesting though that Bogorodica Ljeviska makes the list of "new" churches though. Yes it's "newer" than Studenica, but 14th century? Probably because there's hardly any Serbs left in Prizren, making this little more than monitoring a sacked and looted museum.
“Without our knowledge, permission or agreement, it isn’t possible to do something like this. "
Apparently it is as Ahtisaari plan is being implemented..
>> "No one asked us or consulted us about that, even informally. Therefore, our government representatives need to raise the question of whether EULEX’s stay in Kosovo is legitimate,” said Artemije."
They knew the answer so they didnt; want to bother you. And your government has already approved EULEX. In fact they invited it in after declaring independence.
If a smallest slight of damage were to happen to these churches, Albanians would get chewed out by the EU and the UN. This is a good test. It may actually be better for Serbia if these churches are attacked under Kosovo Police.
Your excuses are over! If you want to be a "country" you shouldn't have people guarding those churches in the first place. The EU and UN will not be able to protect you forever. Things like budgets, not enough police force, is what every country deals with.
You Albanians want "Kosova", but do not want the responsibility. Keep searching for excuses and short cuts like you say and lean on the EU.
Thats a great way to build a "country"?
As for your saying,
"The wolf ate the donkey and the hooves remained"?
Never heard of that one.
If you are referring to Serbs as Donkeys that is a disgrace!
I will make up my own saying. The wolf ate the donkey, but the wolf was tied to a tree grown by the EU.
@ Gojko
So sorry, Gojko, but you are wrong. EU would not chew up anybody since there is a valid excuse given in advance for anything that might happen to anything Serbian and Serbs in Kosovo: police is understaffed, we told you that, it was an additional burden, so what you're gonna do now?
Remember the saying "The wolf ate the donkey and the hooves remained"?
Regards
If a smallest slight of damage were to happen to these churches, Albanians would get chewed out by the EU and the UN. This is a good test. It may actually be better for Serbia if these churches are attacked under Kosovo Police.
(Gojko, 4 March 2009 20:27)
Attacked by who, or you mean Serbian MUP agents will do the attacking so as to blame it on Albanians, RIGHT?
Dear Gojko,
To clear the misunderstanding: I am NOT Albanian, and I certainly did not try to find any "excuses" for that side. I just was too disgusted about this newest stupidity in the charade called independent state of "Kosova" and I was referring to pitiful laments of L.Greshta that COULD be conveniently used as an excuse, never mind how poor and ridiculous.You yourself explained that in the very best way; nothing to be added!
On a more personal note, you must be very young if you never heard the donkey and the wolf saying.It is being used when an irreparable damage is done,it is so obvious, it is known who's done it, but nothing was done to prevent it in the first place and nothing afterwards. So, I personally would not put to high hopes into EU for that matter (the tree you mentioned), but then again, I may view the past in a different way than you do.
This is rather unbelievable.We now have KLA terrorists, who simply switched uniforms, guarding Serbian churches. The Serbian army should indeed be on standby. Otherwise, more of our history, culture and heritage will be torched.
“Without our knowledge, permission or agreement, it isn’t possible to do something like this. "
Apparently it is as Ahtisaari plan is being implemented..
>> "No one asked us or consulted us about that, even informally. Therefore, our government representatives need to raise the question of whether EULEX’s stay in Kosovo is legitimate,” said Artemije."
They knew the answer so they didnt; want to bother you. And your government has already approved EULEX. In fact they invited it in after declaring independence.
The Kosovo Police will watch over newly restored churches and monasteries most of which were destroyed in 2004! Well,well what next? Truth be told 30 churches and monasteries were destroyed in March 2004 . the other 120, that we know of, (the Serbian church does not have access to some areas are they are too dangerous to travel to)were destroyed during the campaign of terror unleashed on the Serbs and their cultural heritage between 1999 - 2004.I interviewed people who were living in the YU building in Pristina, when they were attacked in March 2004 and they saw KPS police with the mob throwing molotov cocktails at them. So it is like asking Frankenstein's monster to look after the kindergarten!And for Dr. Frankenstein read Attishari.
"Kosovo police will largely watch over newly restored churches and monasteries, the majority of which were damaged during the troubles of March 2004."
B92, it is a novelty for me, Bogorodica Ljeviska in Prizren is a "new" building. True, it was damaged in March 2004 - but it has a tremendous value. Bishop Artemije is 100% right. IMO, that historical monument ALONE does ask for roughly the same level of protection like Decani. That church is the MAIN attraction in Prizren.
WOW, something is definitely not right when you need police guarding churches. What a wonderfully multicultural and accepting society Kosovo has become!
Outside of this bastardization created by the West, is there any supposed "democratic, multi-ethnic state" that is run by thieves and murderers and requires constant protection of Christian places of worship -- and on a Christian continent!?
I believe that even Iran affords more freedom and liberties for its christians than this 'kosova'travesty?
I think we all know where this is heading. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Funds for failed Western policies are running out and we all know Kosovo independence is dead. In the past two months as many Americans have become unemployed as people live in Kosovo so I wonder who will be given priority? Americans or failed entities run by terrorists and criminals?
As NATO scales back it has no option but to put their role in the hands of terrorists and hope for the best. I'm fairly certain they are going to make a complete mess of it. Serbian forces now need to be on standby as any repeat of March 2004 will be the final nail in the coffin of this so-called "Kosova" failure.
Momentum is building up and we are getting stronger by the day.
If a smallest slight of damage were to happen to these churches, Albanians would get chewed out by the EU and the UN. This is a good test. It may actually be better for Serbia if these churches are attacked under Kosovo Police.
(Gojko, 4 March 2009 20:27)
Attacked by who, or you mean Serbian MUP agents will do the attacking so as to blame it on Albanians, RIGHT?
If a smallest slight of damage were to happen to these churches, Albanians would get chewed out by the EU and the UN. This is a good test. It may actually be better for Serbia if these churches are attacked under Kosovo Police.
@ Gojko
So sorry, Gojko, but you are wrong. EU would not chew up anybody since there is a valid excuse given in advance for anything that might happen to anything Serbian and Serbs in Kosovo: police is understaffed, we told you that, it was an additional burden, so what you're gonna do now?
Remember the saying "The wolf ate the donkey and the hooves remained"?
Regards
Naive, ignorant and arrogant EU still busy as bees and ants digging themseleves into a hole where they will remain, filling it up with their citizens' tax $$$ for as long as a handful of Justice-minded Serbs remain on planet Earth. . Is this the way you think you are going to accomplish lasting peace in the Balkan, by back-stabbing the Serbs and insulting them and their intelligence after EVERY deal and agreement you make and sign with them? Do you really foolishly believe that you can steal Serbia's Identity, Serbia's cradle of civilization, Serbia's blood sacrifice, Serbia's conscience, Serbia's legal and rightful territory that has been illegaly invaded by REAL ethnic cleansers and monsters who harvest our family members' organs and sell them on the black market? How many more deaths around the world caused by your MISGUIDED illusions will it take before you realize that too many innocent people have died??? The answer is not in the world that you live in and think that you control and manipulate.
And what about Dubrovnik? That always was a Serbian city, I believe.
MB,Ireland
(Micheal Breathnach, 4 March 2009 14:53)
Really? It is why Serbian army saw it in its own right to shell the ancient city. An UNESCO World heritage site brutally attacked by Serbia's army. What's up with that!!
(miri, 4 March 2009, 17:40)
You need to get your facts straight. It was not bombed by "Serbia" but was under seige by the JNA , and at that time under Yugoslavia which included all the federated republics.
General Strugal was convicted (he is not fully Serb) by the Hague Tribunal and in fact, the case is not clear on how and why Dubrovnik was bombed.
However, Strugal did order the shelling of Dubrovnik according to the Hague Tribunal transcripts and showed did show regret for the civilian and and any instrasture damage.
However, it is clear that the Serbian Library was burned down by the Croatian para-military forces who continued to incite the JNA in and around Dubrovnik including Prevlaka.
Montenegrins groups were also accused of looting in both Dubrovnik and Prevlaka.
The JNA was in a precarious positon between Croatian, Serb and Bosnian paramiliary forces during the outbreak of the war. Over 175 JNA officers were murdered in Bosnia-Herzegoniva and more in Slovenia during the civil outbreak. Most JNA army barracks were laid under siege across Croatia , B&H.
Its easy to blame the largest republic of Serbia for everything, but the facts are that the Yugoslav federation was run by a Croatian Vice President Markovic and the current President of Croatia Mesic. Further, the JNA General Chief of Staff was Kadijevic, again a mixed Serb/Croat. Many of its ranks included membership from all the Yugoslav republics.
Slobodan Milsovic was the president of the republic of Serbia and the Hague Tribunal failed to link him to the JNA and or Yugoslav federation early in the civil war.
Dubrovnik was never really a "Serbian " or "Croatian City" , most of its history was as the seperate republic of Ragusa as well as being part of the Venecia empire.
Your excuses are over! If you want to be a "country" you shouldn't have people guarding those churches in the first place. The EU and UN will not be able to protect you forever. Things like budgets, not enough police force, is what every country deals with.
You Albanians want "Kosova", but do not want the responsibility. Keep searching for excuses and short cuts like you say and lean on the EU.
Thats a great way to build a "country"?
As for your saying,
"The wolf ate the donkey and the hooves remained"?
Never heard of that one.
If you are referring to Serbs as Donkeys that is a disgrace!
I will make up my own saying. The wolf ate the donkey, but the wolf was tied to a tree grown by the EU.
Truth be told, there's little Serbia can do in a place like Prizren which is well outside their sphere of control.
I find it interesting though that Bogorodica Ljeviska makes the list of "new" churches though. Yes it's "newer" than Studenica, but 14th century? Probably because there's hardly any Serbs left in Prizren, making this little more than monitoring a sacked and looted museum.
Dear Gojko,
To clear the misunderstanding: I am NOT Albanian, and I certainly did not try to find any "excuses" for that side. I just was too disgusted about this newest stupidity in the charade called independent state of "Kosova" and I was referring to pitiful laments of L.Greshta that COULD be conveniently used as an excuse, never mind how poor and ridiculous.You yourself explained that in the very best way; nothing to be added!
On a more personal note, you must be very young if you never heard the donkey and the wolf saying.It is being used when an irreparable damage is done,it is so obvious, it is known who's done it, but nothing was done to prevent it in the first place and nothing afterwards. So, I personally would not put to high hopes into EU for that matter (the tree you mentioned), but then again, I may view the past in a different way than you do.
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