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Thursday, 26.02.2009.

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Serbian, Greek defense chiefs urge better ties

The defense ministers of Serbia and Greece, Dragan Šutanovac and Evangelos Meimarakis, met in Belgrade this Thursday.

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konstantin gregovic

pre 15 godina

They are Macedonian Slavs, and also, Macedonian Albanians. And we are Macedonian Greeks. Why is it so hard to accept?
(Alexandros, 26 February 2009 16:26)

Bravo Alexandros, many parts of Greek Macedonia had a large migration of Greeks who were forced to leave Asia Minor after the genocide perpotrated on them by the Turkish government.

The old Greek Macedonians still remain and are Hellenic in every respect.

It is that hard for the present nation of FYROM to deny it's predominantly slavic roots or is it just delusional.

Common Sense

pre 15 godina

Gojko,you nailed it!You are so right on the money!>Q: Can anyone justify,why is B92 not reporting about the Hague Tribunal today.I think today's news are not fit for B92...!Just wondering

Gojko

pre 15 godina

Alexandros,

"Monopolizing" the Macedonian word? That doesn't make sense. The real reason Greeks do not want them to be called Macedonians is the fact you do not want them to be compared to Greeks or Greek history. The fact is they live in that area of "Macedonia" and are technically Macedonian. You guys lost that land long ago just like Serbs lost Kosovo. I do see your point though. Albanians in Kosovo do not want to be called Serbs like the Slavs in Macedonia.

What should they be called then?

Alban

pre 15 godina

>> "Just trying to show that you have military support from Greece?"

Serbia is parading it's 'supporters.' First Russia, Cyprus and now Greece. Obama got Cyprus and Greece taken care off with peace talks with Turkey. Spain is the main problem.

As for military cooperation: Greece is a member of NATO like Albania will soon be so the cooperation outside of PfP will be very limited.

UNE

pre 15 godina

Yet again arogance in the srbian part

How is this headline associated with Kosova?

Just trying to show that you have military support from Greece?

Alexandros

pre 15 godina

Cooperation must tighten to areas as defense industry, joint military programs-projects and also common exercises (through Nato partnership programs). i hope Serbia join EU soon and participate also to EU defense branch of balkans (Greece,romania,Bulgaria,Cyprus)...

but we expect more from serbia to FYR Macedonia matter..

The reason why the name is important for Greece has to do with the fact that as many as 4.5 million ethnic Greeks worldwide are Macedonians too!

I was born and I live in Kastoria, and both my paternal and maternal families come from the geogrpahical area of Macedonia since time immemorial. We have always been speaking Greek and we have always identified ourselves with the Greek nation.

We are Greeks but we have a different mindset, and different dialect and a different folk culture than Peloponnesians or Cretans.

And we are not few.
Before 1912, as much as 50-55% of the population of geographical Macedonia was Greek, both in what is now Greek Macedonia, as well as in many areas in the FYROM (Bitola, Ohrid, Krusevo, Gevgelija, etc). It is a terrible thing to say that the first Greeks appeared in Macedonia in 1922!

How can we deny our Macedonian-ness?
How can we betray our history?

What we ask our friends in the FYROM to do is to simply stop monopolizing the term “Macedonia”. You are not the only ones who are entitled to the use of this term. We too are Macedonians, we are Greek Macedonians and proud of it. We have been Greek-Macedonians for centuries before you decided to call yourself “Macedonian”. Please respect that.

They are Macedonian Slavs, and also, Macedonian Albanians. And we are Macedonian Greeks. Why is it so hard to accept?

Alexandros

pre 15 godina

Cooperation must tighten to areas as defense industry, joint military programs-projects and also common exercises (through Nato partnership programs). i hope Serbia join EU soon and participate also to EU defense branch of balkans (Greece,romania,Bulgaria,Cyprus)...

but we expect more from serbia to FYR Macedonia matter..

The reason why the name is important for Greece has to do with the fact that as many as 4.5 million ethnic Greeks worldwide are Macedonians too!

I was born and I live in Kastoria, and both my paternal and maternal families come from the geogrpahical area of Macedonia since time immemorial. We have always been speaking Greek and we have always identified ourselves with the Greek nation.

We are Greeks but we have a different mindset, and different dialect and a different folk culture than Peloponnesians or Cretans.

And we are not few.
Before 1912, as much as 50-55% of the population of geographical Macedonia was Greek, both in what is now Greek Macedonia, as well as in many areas in the FYROM (Bitola, Ohrid, Krusevo, Gevgelija, etc). It is a terrible thing to say that the first Greeks appeared in Macedonia in 1922!

How can we deny our Macedonian-ness?
How can we betray our history?

What we ask our friends in the FYROM to do is to simply stop monopolizing the term “Macedonia”. You are not the only ones who are entitled to the use of this term. We too are Macedonians, we are Greek Macedonians and proud of it. We have been Greek-Macedonians for centuries before you decided to call yourself “Macedonian”. Please respect that.

They are Macedonian Slavs, and also, Macedonian Albanians. And we are Macedonian Greeks. Why is it so hard to accept?

Alban

pre 15 godina

>> "Just trying to show that you have military support from Greece?"

Serbia is parading it's 'supporters.' First Russia, Cyprus and now Greece. Obama got Cyprus and Greece taken care off with peace talks with Turkey. Spain is the main problem.

As for military cooperation: Greece is a member of NATO like Albania will soon be so the cooperation outside of PfP will be very limited.

UNE

pre 15 godina

Yet again arogance in the srbian part

How is this headline associated with Kosova?

Just trying to show that you have military support from Greece?

Gojko

pre 15 godina

Alexandros,

"Monopolizing" the Macedonian word? That doesn't make sense. The real reason Greeks do not want them to be called Macedonians is the fact you do not want them to be compared to Greeks or Greek history. The fact is they live in that area of "Macedonia" and are technically Macedonian. You guys lost that land long ago just like Serbs lost Kosovo. I do see your point though. Albanians in Kosovo do not want to be called Serbs like the Slavs in Macedonia.

What should they be called then?

Common Sense

pre 15 godina

Gojko,you nailed it!You are so right on the money!>Q: Can anyone justify,why is B92 not reporting about the Hague Tribunal today.I think today's news are not fit for B92...!Just wondering

konstantin gregovic

pre 15 godina

They are Macedonian Slavs, and also, Macedonian Albanians. And we are Macedonian Greeks. Why is it so hard to accept?
(Alexandros, 26 February 2009 16:26)

Bravo Alexandros, many parts of Greek Macedonia had a large migration of Greeks who were forced to leave Asia Minor after the genocide perpotrated on them by the Turkish government.

The old Greek Macedonians still remain and are Hellenic in every respect.

It is that hard for the present nation of FYROM to deny it's predominantly slavic roots or is it just delusional.

UNE

pre 15 godina

Yet again arogance in the srbian part

How is this headline associated with Kosova?

Just trying to show that you have military support from Greece?

Alban

pre 15 godina

>> "Just trying to show that you have military support from Greece?"

Serbia is parading it's 'supporters.' First Russia, Cyprus and now Greece. Obama got Cyprus and Greece taken care off with peace talks with Turkey. Spain is the main problem.

As for military cooperation: Greece is a member of NATO like Albania will soon be so the cooperation outside of PfP will be very limited.

Common Sense

pre 15 godina

Gojko,you nailed it!You are so right on the money!>Q: Can anyone justify,why is B92 not reporting about the Hague Tribunal today.I think today's news are not fit for B92...!Just wondering

Gojko

pre 15 godina

Alexandros,

"Monopolizing" the Macedonian word? That doesn't make sense. The real reason Greeks do not want them to be called Macedonians is the fact you do not want them to be compared to Greeks or Greek history. The fact is they live in that area of "Macedonia" and are technically Macedonian. You guys lost that land long ago just like Serbs lost Kosovo. I do see your point though. Albanians in Kosovo do not want to be called Serbs like the Slavs in Macedonia.

What should they be called then?

Alexandros

pre 15 godina

Cooperation must tighten to areas as defense industry, joint military programs-projects and also common exercises (through Nato partnership programs). i hope Serbia join EU soon and participate also to EU defense branch of balkans (Greece,romania,Bulgaria,Cyprus)...

but we expect more from serbia to FYR Macedonia matter..

The reason why the name is important for Greece has to do with the fact that as many as 4.5 million ethnic Greeks worldwide are Macedonians too!

I was born and I live in Kastoria, and both my paternal and maternal families come from the geogrpahical area of Macedonia since time immemorial. We have always been speaking Greek and we have always identified ourselves with the Greek nation.

We are Greeks but we have a different mindset, and different dialect and a different folk culture than Peloponnesians or Cretans.

And we are not few.
Before 1912, as much as 50-55% of the population of geographical Macedonia was Greek, both in what is now Greek Macedonia, as well as in many areas in the FYROM (Bitola, Ohrid, Krusevo, Gevgelija, etc). It is a terrible thing to say that the first Greeks appeared in Macedonia in 1922!

How can we deny our Macedonian-ness?
How can we betray our history?

What we ask our friends in the FYROM to do is to simply stop monopolizing the term “Macedonia”. You are not the only ones who are entitled to the use of this term. We too are Macedonians, we are Greek Macedonians and proud of it. We have been Greek-Macedonians for centuries before you decided to call yourself “Macedonian”. Please respect that.

They are Macedonian Slavs, and also, Macedonian Albanians. And we are Macedonian Greeks. Why is it so hard to accept?

konstantin gregovic

pre 15 godina

They are Macedonian Slavs, and also, Macedonian Albanians. And we are Macedonian Greeks. Why is it so hard to accept?
(Alexandros, 26 February 2009 16:26)

Bravo Alexandros, many parts of Greek Macedonia had a large migration of Greeks who were forced to leave Asia Minor after the genocide perpotrated on them by the Turkish government.

The old Greek Macedonians still remain and are Hellenic in every respect.

It is that hard for the present nation of FYROM to deny it's predominantly slavic roots or is it just delusional.