"Ministers can be questioned in Kovačević case"

Yes, Kovačević case is the most important thing in the entire Galaxy and it's worth to spend as much time as possible to analyze every aspect of it.

What's the big deal. Kovacevic is exempt from prosecution, just as the USA is exempt from prosection at the Hague.

Kovacevic is a small fish, get over it and concentrate on other matters.

Have any of you thought about the fact, that Kovacevic was mistreated in the US jail and that is why Serbian diplomats quickly ushered him out.

Have any of you thought about the fact, that Kovacevic was mistreated in the US jail and that is why Serbian diplomats quickly ushered him out.
(Another Canadian Serb, 26 February 2009 14:10)

Besides, from European point of view the entire justice system in the States needs a total re-haul. This applies not just to criminal justice but more importantly to civil cases.

Regardless, what is our stance on this little forum, the biggest "criminal" charge what probably any of us here would face would be some traffic case. So our "risk" from American justice system is few hundred US$ at worst. I actually got away with zero US$ in 15 years for moving and roughly $200 for parking, what I cannot say about Serbia+KS and Hungary: my total in last 8 month 4000 Dinars for moving, 14000 Dinars for parking (paid) and unknown Forint + Dinar+Euro for unpaid. But wish nothing worse than that.

What is much worse that that is the civil justice. Enough to mention two idiots who climbed on Amtrak electric locomotive, got 25 Kilovolt shock, amazingly survived that - and sued Amtrak. And won millions of Dollars.

Or remember the lady who sued Mc Donald's and won a million because the coffee was to hot.

These cases are clearly abnormal and a big burden. As a result, no one is doing in the States anything, what would be a liability risk. If you have a company which has some software-related involvement, the liability insurance agents will try to racketeer you. Much cheaper is to let develop the software components overseas and just import them along with the hardware - the insurance companies will lower their prices by a magnitude.

I'd like to point out that Bryan Steinhauer is NOT in a coma and that a New York Post reporter and photographer saw and photographed him in early January of this year. They saw him walking to a taxi cab in front of his home and said it was the first time they sighted him since the story broke out.

What got me is that there was not announcement by his parents that he was definitely out of a coma and walking. They'd have people believe - if Bryan Steinhauer hadn't been seen - that he was in a coma.

I think they were unhappy the press saw them. They can't play up and exaggerate the victim role.

I think they were unhappy the press saw them. They can't play up and exaggerate the victim role.
(ida, 26 February 2009 19:03)

That's a big problem. The legal system in the States is being kept fairly alien to the people and simplified courts which supposed to bring the justice closer to the masses (Small Case, Traffic Court) are often just kangaroo courts - and lawyers feeding even on the traffic cases. Fortunately for me, I wasn't involved.

Once a more serious issue happens, unscrupulous lawyers will do their best to squeeze out from a case as much money as they can. Kovacevic-case was an issue, but it became a problem.

The next big problem are the prosecutors. Unlike in Europe, in the States the prosecutors have PERSONAL MOTIVATION to win the case. IMO, this is conflict of the interest. But many Americans feel, this is fair. Very likely in Kovacevic case the prosecutor felt, a 100% win case turned to be a 100% lose case. Normally, it is expected that even if someone is 100% innocent he will try to plea bargain. The biggest problem (from American justice point of view) Kovacevic did was that with fleeing to Serbia he refused the bargain procedure and the system cannot win.

Since I really despise that corrupt legal system, I feel a good amount of "Schadenfreude". But on the other hand:

Kovacevic has to hold responsible for what he did, get a just trial and if found guilty, get what he deserved, including the compensation of the victim. But that trial should be without involvement of sharks (lawyers in the States, politicians, Billary and the rest of the dirt)

And about that legal system... just think, that eBay was for years involved in illegal lottery, got away without being EVER even chastised for that - and the former eBay CEO is about to run for the office of California's Governor.

Not just that, but eBay members who protested and tried to "kill" the illegal lottery scheme got suspended, hindered, their life on eBay was made as difficult as possible. It took YEARS till that scheme was banned. In the meantime eBay got all the fees from these auctions. Neat, right? A bit worse, than Kovacevic.

I'd like to point out that Bryan Steinhauer is NOT in a coma and that a New York Post reporter and photographer saw and photographed him in early January of this year. They saw him walking to a taxi cab in front of his home and said it was the first time they sighted him since the story broke out.

What got me is that there was not announcement by his parents that he was definitely out of a coma and walking. They'd have people believe - if Bryan Steinhauer hadn't been seen - that he was in a coma.

I think they were unhappy the press saw them. They can't play up and exaggerate the victim role.

Yes, Kovačević case is the most important thing in the entire Galaxy and it's worth to spend as much time as possible to analyze every aspect of it.

What's the big deal. Kovacevic is exempt from prosecution, just as the USA is exempt from prosection at the Hague.

Kovacevic is a small fish, get over it and concentrate on other matters.

Have any of you thought about the fact, that Kovacevic was mistreated in the US jail and that is why Serbian diplomats quickly ushered him out.

Have any of you thought about the fact, that Kovacevic was mistreated in the US jail and that is why Serbian diplomats quickly ushered him out.
(Another Canadian Serb, 26 February 2009 14:10)

Besides, from European point of view the entire justice system in the States needs a total re-haul. This applies not just to criminal justice but more importantly to civil cases.

Regardless, what is our stance on this little forum, the biggest "criminal" charge what probably any of us here would face would be some traffic case. So our "risk" from American justice system is few hundred US$ at worst. I actually got away with zero US$ in 15 years for moving and roughly $200 for parking, what I cannot say about Serbia+KS and Hungary: my total in last 8 month 4000 Dinars for moving, 14000 Dinars for parking (paid) and unknown Forint + Dinar+Euro for unpaid. But wish nothing worse than that.

What is much worse that that is the civil justice. Enough to mention two idiots who climbed on Amtrak electric locomotive, got 25 Kilovolt shock, amazingly survived that - and sued Amtrak. And won millions of Dollars.

Or remember the lady who sued Mc Donald's and won a million because the coffee was to hot.

These cases are clearly abnormal and a big burden. As a result, no one is doing in the States anything, what would be a liability risk. If you have a company which has some software-related involvement, the liability insurance agents will try to racketeer you. Much cheaper is to let develop the software components overseas and just import them along with the hardware - the insurance companies will lower their prices by a magnitude.

I think they were unhappy the press saw them. They can't play up and exaggerate the victim role.
(ida, 26 February 2009 19:03)

That's a big problem. The legal system in the States is being kept fairly alien to the people and simplified courts which supposed to bring the justice closer to the masses (Small Case, Traffic Court) are often just kangaroo courts - and lawyers feeding even on the traffic cases. Fortunately for me, I wasn't involved.

Once a more serious issue happens, unscrupulous lawyers will do their best to squeeze out from a case as much money as they can. Kovacevic-case was an issue, but it became a problem.

The next big problem are the prosecutors. Unlike in Europe, in the States the prosecutors have PERSONAL MOTIVATION to win the case. IMO, this is conflict of the interest. But many Americans feel, this is fair. Very likely in Kovacevic case the prosecutor felt, a 100% win case turned to be a 100% lose case. Normally, it is expected that even if someone is 100% innocent he will try to plea bargain. The biggest problem (from American justice point of view) Kovacevic did was that with fleeing to Serbia he refused the bargain procedure and the system cannot win.

Since I really despise that corrupt legal system, I feel a good amount of "Schadenfreude". But on the other hand:

Kovacevic has to hold responsible for what he did, get a just trial and if found guilty, get what he deserved, including the compensation of the victim. But that trial should be without involvement of sharks (lawyers in the States, politicians, Billary and the rest of the dirt)

And about that legal system... just think, that eBay was for years involved in illegal lottery, got away without being EVER even chastised for that - and the former eBay CEO is about to run for the office of California's Governor.

Not just that, but eBay members who protested and tried to "kill" the illegal lottery scheme got suspended, hindered, their life on eBay was made as difficult as possible. It took YEARS till that scheme was banned. In the meantime eBay got all the fees from these auctions. Neat, right? A bit worse, than Kovacevic.