I see some twists in logic. First of all - it was precisely EU where old enemies Germany and France sorted out their century-old problems. Second: South Tyrol is still a (relatively minor) issue and it does surface in Bruxelles once in a while.
Third: "Let's create an other country, just to abolish the borders ASAP".
By the way: you can test how "creating new countries" is EXPENSIVE for the population. It does not boost anything, except transportation mafia, food mafia, police mafia pockets.
Make two tests:
1) Buy a Gevgelija-Ljubljana train ticket in one or buy it as Gevgelija-Djeneral Jankovic/Hani i Elazit, Hani i Elazit-Zvecan, Zvecan-Sid, Sid-Tovarnik, Tovarnik-Savski Marof, Savski Marof-Dobova, Dobova-Ljubljana.
2) Do the same within EX-USSR.
The result is the same: buying "through" tickets - now these tickets are "international" (what a shame!) is always (much) more expensive. You can of course drive... but there will be other "neat" things like you have to have insurance "green card" instead of using your domestic insurance. So if you want to travel... having new statelets is much worse. Moving goods is not any better.
Your gut feelings are: "We want to be separate", these are because of many things. But as soon as you talk about EU integration, these gut feelings do not sound logical at all.
The entire Albanian (in)dependence-drive is from European view very backwards. Your interests, however do meet certain interests in Europe because joining as a large SINGLE country (YU) means a bigger challenge for "incumbent" countries. Pretty logical, isn't it? Imagine, you are a small club of 400 lbs sumo wrestlers who do challenge each other once in a while. Whom would you rather like to join your club - an other SINGLE 300 lbs sumo wrestler or 6 midgets, each 50 lbs?
That's the reason of much of EU support you have.
America deserves even more critics. Instead of supporting YU in WHOLE, they did their best to break it up. Unfortunately that drove the biggest chunk straight in the arms of their opponent (Russia). Now, instead of re-thing the strategy they waged a diplomatic war-by-proxy against Russia the way they used to. Old habits die hard, idiots rule.
Mircea,
Of course all West Balkan coutries should join the EU. But they sjould first sort out all of their old fights. Brussels is not an arena for their quarrels. Austria and Italy don't argue in the EU about South Tyrol.
Absolutely right. All Balkan countries should join the EU as soon as possible. Serbia got to recognise Kosova as an independent country first and hand of its war criminals. After doing that everything else would be much easier than anyone can think. Free movement of goods, people etc etc. Not that difficult to UNDERSTAND.
Mircea,
Of course all West Balkan coutries should join the EU. But they sjould first sort out all of their old fights. Brussels is not an arena for their quarrels. Austria and Italy don't argue in the EU about South Tyrol.
I see some twists in logic. First of all - it was precisely EU where old enemies Germany and France sorted out their century-old problems. Second: South Tyrol is still a (relatively minor) issue and it does surface in Bruxelles once in a while.
Third: "Let's create an other country, just to abolish the borders ASAP".
By the way: you can test how "creating new countries" is EXPENSIVE for the population. It does not boost anything, except transportation mafia, food mafia, police mafia pockets.
Make two tests:
1) Buy a Gevgelija-Ljubljana train ticket in one or buy it as Gevgelija-Djeneral Jankovic/Hani i Elazit, Hani i Elazit-Zvecan, Zvecan-Sid, Sid-Tovarnik, Tovarnik-Savski Marof, Savski Marof-Dobova, Dobova-Ljubljana.
2) Do the same within EX-USSR.
The result is the same: buying "through" tickets - now these tickets are "international" (what a shame!) is always (much) more expensive. You can of course drive... but there will be other "neat" things like you have to have insurance "green card" instead of using your domestic insurance. So if you want to travel... having new statelets is much worse. Moving goods is not any better.
Your gut feelings are: "We want to be separate", these are because of many things. But as soon as you talk about EU integration, these gut feelings do not sound logical at all.
The entire Albanian (in)dependence-drive is from European view very backwards. Your interests, however do meet certain interests in Europe because joining as a large SINGLE country (YU) means a bigger challenge for "incumbent" countries. Pretty logical, isn't it? Imagine, you are a small club of 400 lbs sumo wrestlers who do challenge each other once in a while. Whom would you rather like to join your club - an other SINGLE 300 lbs sumo wrestler or 6 midgets, each 50 lbs?
That's the reason of much of EU support you have.
America deserves even more critics. Instead of supporting YU in WHOLE, they did their best to break it up. Unfortunately that drove the biggest chunk straight in the arms of their opponent (Russia). Now, instead of re-thing the strategy they waged a diplomatic war-by-proxy against Russia the way they used to. Old habits die hard, idiots rule.
Absolutely right. All Balkan countries should join the EU as soon as possible. Serbia got to recognise Kosova as an independent country first and hand of its war criminals. After doing that everything else would be much easier than anyone can think. Free movement of goods, people etc etc. Not that difficult to UNDERSTAND.
Absolutely right. All Balkan countries should join the EU as soon as possible. Serbia got to recognise Kosova as an independent country first and hand of its war criminals. After doing that everything else would be much easier than anyone can think. Free movement of goods, people etc etc. Not that difficult to UNDERSTAND.
Mircea,
Of course all West Balkan coutries should join the EU. But they sjould first sort out all of their old fights. Brussels is not an arena for their quarrels. Austria and Italy don't argue in the EU about South Tyrol.
I see some twists in logic. First of all - it was precisely EU where old enemies Germany and France sorted out their century-old problems. Second: South Tyrol is still a (relatively minor) issue and it does surface in Bruxelles once in a while.
Third: "Let's create an other country, just to abolish the borders ASAP".
By the way: you can test how "creating new countries" is EXPENSIVE for the population. It does not boost anything, except transportation mafia, food mafia, police mafia pockets.
Make two tests:
1) Buy a Gevgelija-Ljubljana train ticket in one or buy it as Gevgelija-Djeneral Jankovic/Hani i Elazit, Hani i Elazit-Zvecan, Zvecan-Sid, Sid-Tovarnik, Tovarnik-Savski Marof, Savski Marof-Dobova, Dobova-Ljubljana.
2) Do the same within EX-USSR.
The result is the same: buying "through" tickets - now these tickets are "international" (what a shame!) is always (much) more expensive. You can of course drive... but there will be other "neat" things like you have to have insurance "green card" instead of using your domestic insurance. So if you want to travel... having new statelets is much worse. Moving goods is not any better.
Your gut feelings are: "We want to be separate", these are because of many things. But as soon as you talk about EU integration, these gut feelings do not sound logical at all.
The entire Albanian (in)dependence-drive is from European view very backwards. Your interests, however do meet certain interests in Europe because joining as a large SINGLE country (YU) means a bigger challenge for "incumbent" countries. Pretty logical, isn't it? Imagine, you are a small club of 400 lbs sumo wrestlers who do challenge each other once in a while. Whom would you rather like to join your club - an other SINGLE 300 lbs sumo wrestler or 6 midgets, each 50 lbs?
That's the reason of much of EU support you have.
America deserves even more critics. Instead of supporting YU in WHOLE, they did their best to break it up. Unfortunately that drove the biggest chunk straight in the arms of their opponent (Russia). Now, instead of re-thing the strategy they waged a diplomatic war-by-proxy against Russia the way they used to. Old habits die hard, idiots rule.
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