FM: Serbia will never recognize Kosovo

Yes, Jeremic your statement might be true !!
But Kosovars will never ever let you / your gv, decide and rule over them.
They rather live without your recognition, in a "quazi, fake country than be ruled/killed by your"democratic" and prosper state.

Not sure I understand your point RW. Since when have Serbians wanted to rule Albanians? We allowed you to run parallel systems and the more than autonomy, less than independence offer included self-rule for the Albanians.

But yes, the truth is that Serbia will always consider Kosovo its sacred province. There will never be recognition for criminals and terrorists on our soil.

In my understanding, what Jeremic meant is that he will never recognize KOSOVO, but maybe he will recognize KOSOVA. :)
(prizreni, 15 February 2009 15:44)

No Serbia will never recognize 'Kosova' either, because Serbia recognizes Kenya.
'Kosova' are bantu speaking people who inhabit the Kisii district of western Kenya. :)

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/kosova.html

Cheers!!

im sure kosovo can live very good also without serbias recognition.kosovo donst need serbias recognition.

mr jeremic
never say never

"Making painful but necessary decisions is not a virtue of the weak."
(Gezim Disha)

I agree. And that's why Albanians need to be strong and sincere and accept that Kosovo independence is illegal. The only solution is living togehter. Easy? No. But hey, Kurds, Shia and Sunni also have to learn to live together in Iraq!

NO SPECIAL DEAL FOR KOSOVO!

Kosova has more chances to join Albania than be recognized by Serbia.
I agree :)

The word "never" is laughable on the international stage.

never say never
(melba, 15 February 2009 14:08)
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I'm glad you can see the possibility of Albanians accepting the more than autonomy, less than independence offer!

Speaking almost a year after Kosovo's Albanians unilaterally declared independence – which Serbia rejected as an illegal act – Jeremić said that five EU member states have not recognized that proclamation and that, according to announcements coming from those countries, they will not do so in the future

The decision of the 5 EU members not to recognize Kosovo is not really helping Serbia.
It only makes Serbia’s transition a lot more difficult.
On the other hand I do not think that this decision is aimed at helping Serbia.
By pretending to protect their interests, these governments are only bringing out in the open the fragility of their countries and their impotence at dealing with similar (but not the same) problems at home.
Making painful but necessary decisions is not a virtue of the weak.

In my understanding, what Jeremic meant is that he will never recognize KOSOVO, but maybe he will recognize KOSOVA. :)

FR Yugoslavia (Serbia) vowed it would never recognise Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina ect. But in 1996 FR Yugoslavia recognised Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina ect.

Now Serbia is in the same situation, vowing never to recognise Kosovo. I wonder if this is just history repeating itself?

Like I said earlier, the word "never" is laughable on the international stage.

Kosova has more chances to join Albania than be recognized by Serbia.
(Amantia, 15 February 2009 15:20)
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And Albania has more chance of becoming a Serbian province than Kosovo ever has of joining Albania. It's the only hope you have of living in one country.

What about:

Kurds in Turkey
Kurds in Iraq
Kurds in Iran
Kurds in Syrai

What about Tibet? South Ossetia? And yes, Chechenya?

Why make an exception for Kosovo?

Is an Albanian worth more then a Kurd?
(Ron, 15 February 2009 18:45)

Ron, one at a time. Those people will have their chance too. They will just have to seize the moment, and play it smart. One at a time. If there was a world war then one could see the possibility of grouping global conflicts and drawing borders and solving all at the same time. Until that happens those people have to do what we did; fight for their freedom and seize the moment.

Also I see it from a different perspective. Why should we be held hostage with what we want to achieve because the Kurds, Osetians, and Tibetians cannot achieve it.

Also since I am an Albanian to answer your question, YES THE LIVES OF ALBANIANS ARE DEFINITELY WORTH MORE THAN THE LIVES OF KURDS. There is no question or doubt about that. If I was neither Albanian or Kurd then I would see it differently. The reason is simple. Albanians that suffer in Kosova are my cuzins and my family, they are my blood. The Kurds are not. Therefore as long as Albanians in Kosova are doing good, it is all good for me, and I and all of us Albanians will not allow for our future and our families future to depend on what happens in other continents, a world apart from us, no matter how dire the situation is for those other people.

"The price paid by Kosovars is sealed with the blood of many people."

Dear EA,

What about:

Kurds in Turkey
Kurds in Iraq
Kurds in Iran
Kurds in Syrai

What about Tibet? South Ossetia? And yes, Chechenya?

Why make an exception for Kosovo?

Is an Albanian worth more then a Kurd?

Oh enough with jeremic and his pusillanimous self! (pusillanimity. n. cowardice; mean-spiritedness)in a brief but pointed reference to yesterday's board :)

but soon, very soon we shall be celebrating the one year independence mark. to all of our pro-democracy frnds and allies, whatever your nationality (who cares?!) i say thank you, and let's try to stay positive and on the mark. eyes on the prize!

Ron,

Why are you trying to be more Kurd than a Kurd, or more Serbian than a Serb?
The Kurds have their own way in solving their issues. I personally do NOT agree in many ways how they fight for their rights. They have their own leaders to raise their voice and concerns as Kosova has its own leaders and institutions. If you want to know who is more successful in achieving their goals, the FACT IS Albanians. One more thing I would like you to bear in mind is that Kosova is in Europe and each conflict has got its own history and merits. Let me ask you a question? Why me and you can travel in Europe without a visa and ordinary Albanians and Serbs need a visa? So your analogy between Kosova issue and Kurdish issue are two separate issues. Greetings from UK a true country!)))

Ian,

Croatia and Slovenia and the other republics were ALLOWED to leave Yugoslavia.

Kosovo was/is not a republic. It is a Serbian province!

Or may Tibet now leave China? Serious answer please!

Jeremić said that "five EU member states have not recognized that proclamation and that, according to announcements coming from those countries, they will not do so in the future."

Hang on to it Jeremic! Will it be enough to stop the unstoppable time will tell. It would be illogical and stupid to allow Serbia in EU with a mission to continue blocking other countries aspiration. The reason? Because five EU countries still refuse to recognise Kosova as an independent country. It will be a question for EU to reform itself and strip off the rebel countries of any abusive privileges vested to them. Coincidently these countries are the main grabbers of EU funds. I bet my life that THERE IS NO RETURN OF KOSOVA TO SERBIA. The price paid by Kosovars is sealed with the blood of many people.

Also @ Ron

FYI Mongolia wasn't allowed to leave China, but it did and eventually some years later China recognised it.

So if China can be persuaded into recognising Mongolia, I think it will be a lot easier persuading Serbia to recognise Kosovo. China was extremely anti-Mongolia, but was persuaded into recognising it. Remember China is a bit bigger than Serbia.

That one really made me laugh prizreni. First you claim that you are Illyrians, which is a joke, then you claim that the hundreds of Serbian churches throughout Kosovo are 'Byzantine' and belong to you, and now this claim that the word Kosovo, which is purely Serbian (Kos means 'blackbird'), is somehow a Turkish word...lol...truly, truly, pathetic. You just can't face the fact that Kosovo is Serbia, and has no evidence of albanian culture anywhere. Deal with reality, we live in the real world, not in a fantasy world.
Cheers!!

@ Ron

So was Serbia allowed to leave the Ottoman Empire? Serbia declared unilaterally from the Ottoman Empire (Just for the record, the Serbia which declared independence from the Ottoman Empire did not include Kosovo in its territory; FACT!).

Also my comment was comparing what Serbia has said before to what they have said now. If they have lied before whats stopping them from lying again?

Oh enough with jeremic and his pusillanimous self! (pusillanimity. n. cowardice; mean-spiritedness)in a brief but pointed reference to yesterday's board :)

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LOL roberto!

your comment truly made me laugh.. i guess when you copied that word from dictionairy.com, you must have accidentaly also copied its meaning, and pasted it on the comment section here.

just a heads up for the next time you wanna use words that are way above your head. :)

is russia who doesnt recognize tibet.. will russia recognize tibet??
will russia recognize kashmir??

russia is scare of china..
west has always ask for tibet to be free and they will recognize if russia recognize first.

Ron,

if you haven't understood the concept of interstism in politics then you will never understand politics. That's why Kosovo trumps all these frozen conflicts; although there is hope for them. As far as Tibet you are comparing oranges with apples.
Ron also you keep forgetting that for the last few decades Kosovo's economy has been a black hole. Kosovo will be one of the few countries that won't be affected by the world wide depression. With valid passports Kosovars will now be able to go a lot of places in the world, master, and advance. Time is on our side, remember.

"Or may Tibet now leave China? Serious answer please." Ron
Lets answer that question once the UNSC votes (including Russia and China) to sever all economic, political, and military ties from China. Once talks break down and it is obvious that Tibet either remains a UN protectorate forever or becomes an independent state. You notice Russia is opposed to independence of Kosovo without Serbian consent but they are not advocating the return of Kosovo to the control of Serbia either.
You cannot give a serious answer about bananas when the question is about grapes.

I totaly agree with THE MR JEREMIC, he knows what he is saying, keep walking Mr Jeremic who knows maybe you will be once the president of serbia

In my understanding, what Jeremic meant is that he will never recognize KOSOVO, but maybe he will recognize KOSOVA. :)
(prizreni, 15 February 2009 15:44)

No Serbia will never recognize 'Kosova' either, because Serbia recognizes Kenya.
'Kosova' are bantu speaking people who inhabit the Kisii district of western Kenya. :)

[link]

Cheers!!
(Dragan, 15 February 2009 19:05)

Dragan, that link that you put on your comment comes from serbian web site, anyways it's going to be for you Bantu speaking people, somewhere in Kenya.
Let me tell you from where, comes the name of KOSOVA, it's a turkish word, when the ottomans were occupaying the balkans. KOS (Mow in English), OVASI (Field in English). So for the shortcut they (Ottomans), also called KOSOVA and not KOSOVO.

Mr. Jeremic,

Not only will Serbia recognize Kosova's Independence but they will recognize Vojvodina's eventual Independence as well!!!

Freedom for All !!!

Yes, Serbia will never recognize Kosovo. Why should Serbia recognize Kosovo, anyway? If Muslim Kosovors want their own republic; why don't they simply separate themselves from the Christian Serbs and allow the Christian Serbs to have their own churches, houses,cemeteries,businesses;shops, and schools instead of a Muslim Kosovar government trying to rule over everyone and everything in Kosovo-Muslims and Christians alike?

Yes, Jeremic your statement might be true !!
But Kosovars will never ever let you / your gv, decide and rule over them.
They rather live without your recognition, in a "quazi, fake country than be ruled/killed by your"democratic" and prosper state.

Not sure I understand your point RW. Since when have Serbians wanted to rule Albanians? We allowed you to run parallel systems and the more than autonomy, less than independence offer included self-rule for the Albanians.

But yes, the truth is that Serbia will always consider Kosovo its sacred province. There will never be recognition for criminals and terrorists on our soil.

mr jeremic
never say never

im sure kosovo can live very good also without serbias recognition.kosovo donst need serbias recognition.

In my understanding, what Jeremic meant is that he will never recognize KOSOVO, but maybe he will recognize KOSOVA. :)

never say never
(melba, 15 February 2009 14:08)
--
I'm glad you can see the possibility of Albanians accepting the more than autonomy, less than independence offer!

Kosova has more chances to join Albania than be recognized by Serbia.
I agree :)

Speaking almost a year after Kosovo's Albanians unilaterally declared independence – which Serbia rejected as an illegal act – Jeremić said that five EU member states have not recognized that proclamation and that, according to announcements coming from those countries, they will not do so in the future

The decision of the 5 EU members not to recognize Kosovo is not really helping Serbia.
It only makes Serbia’s transition a lot more difficult.
On the other hand I do not think that this decision is aimed at helping Serbia.
By pretending to protect their interests, these governments are only bringing out in the open the fragility of their countries and their impotence at dealing with similar (but not the same) problems at home.
Making painful but necessary decisions is not a virtue of the weak.

Kosova has more chances to join Albania than be recognized by Serbia.
(Amantia, 15 February 2009 15:20)
--
And Albania has more chance of becoming a Serbian province than Kosovo ever has of joining Albania. It's the only hope you have of living in one country.

Jeremić said that "five EU member states have not recognized that proclamation and that, according to announcements coming from those countries, they will not do so in the future."

Hang on to it Jeremic! Will it be enough to stop the unstoppable time will tell. It would be illogical and stupid to allow Serbia in EU with a mission to continue blocking other countries aspiration. The reason? Because five EU countries still refuse to recognise Kosova as an independent country. It will be a question for EU to reform itself and strip off the rebel countries of any abusive privileges vested to them. Coincidently these countries are the main grabbers of EU funds. I bet my life that THERE IS NO RETURN OF KOSOVA TO SERBIA. The price paid by Kosovars is sealed with the blood of many people.

The word "never" is laughable on the international stage.

What about:

Kurds in Turkey
Kurds in Iraq
Kurds in Iran
Kurds in Syrai

What about Tibet? South Ossetia? And yes, Chechenya?

Why make an exception for Kosovo?

Is an Albanian worth more then a Kurd?
(Ron, 15 February 2009 18:45)

Ron, one at a time. Those people will have their chance too. They will just have to seize the moment, and play it smart. One at a time. If there was a world war then one could see the possibility of grouping global conflicts and drawing borders and solving all at the same time. Until that happens those people have to do what we did; fight for their freedom and seize the moment.

Also I see it from a different perspective. Why should we be held hostage with what we want to achieve because the Kurds, Osetians, and Tibetians cannot achieve it.

Also since I am an Albanian to answer your question, YES THE LIVES OF ALBANIANS ARE DEFINITELY WORTH MORE THAN THE LIVES OF KURDS. There is no question or doubt about that. If I was neither Albanian or Kurd then I would see it differently. The reason is simple. Albanians that suffer in Kosova are my cuzins and my family, they are my blood. The Kurds are not. Therefore as long as Albanians in Kosova are doing good, it is all good for me, and I and all of us Albanians will not allow for our future and our families future to depend on what happens in other continents, a world apart from us, no matter how dire the situation is for those other people.

"Making painful but necessary decisions is not a virtue of the weak."
(Gezim Disha)

I agree. And that's why Albanians need to be strong and sincere and accept that Kosovo independence is illegal. The only solution is living togehter. Easy? No. But hey, Kurds, Shia and Sunni also have to learn to live together in Iraq!

NO SPECIAL DEAL FOR KOSOVO!

Ian,

Croatia and Slovenia and the other republics were ALLOWED to leave Yugoslavia.

Kosovo was/is not a republic. It is a Serbian province!

Or may Tibet now leave China? Serious answer please!

Oh enough with jeremic and his pusillanimous self! (pusillanimity. n. cowardice; mean-spiritedness)in a brief but pointed reference to yesterday's board :)

but soon, very soon we shall be celebrating the one year independence mark. to all of our pro-democracy frnds and allies, whatever your nationality (who cares?!) i say thank you, and let's try to stay positive and on the mark. eyes on the prize!

In my understanding, what Jeremic meant is that he will never recognize KOSOVO, but maybe he will recognize KOSOVA. :)
(prizreni, 15 February 2009 15:44)

No Serbia will never recognize 'Kosova' either, because Serbia recognizes Kenya.
'Kosova' are bantu speaking people who inhabit the Kisii district of western Kenya. :)

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Kosovo/kosova.html

Cheers!!

Ron,

Why are you trying to be more Kurd than a Kurd, or more Serbian than a Serb?
The Kurds have their own way in solving their issues. I personally do NOT agree in many ways how they fight for their rights. They have their own leaders to raise their voice and concerns as Kosova has its own leaders and institutions. If you want to know who is more successful in achieving their goals, the FACT IS Albanians. One more thing I would like you to bear in mind is that Kosova is in Europe and each conflict has got its own history and merits. Let me ask you a question? Why me and you can travel in Europe without a visa and ordinary Albanians and Serbs need a visa? So your analogy between Kosova issue and Kurdish issue are two separate issues. Greetings from UK a true country!)))

"The price paid by Kosovars is sealed with the blood of many people."

Dear EA,

What about:

Kurds in Turkey
Kurds in Iraq
Kurds in Iran
Kurds in Syrai

What about Tibet? South Ossetia? And yes, Chechenya?

Why make an exception for Kosovo?

Is an Albanian worth more then a Kurd?

FR Yugoslavia (Serbia) vowed it would never recognise Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina ect. But in 1996 FR Yugoslavia recognised Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina ect.

Now Serbia is in the same situation, vowing never to recognise Kosovo. I wonder if this is just history repeating itself?

Like I said earlier, the word "never" is laughable on the international stage.

In my understanding, what Jeremic meant is that he will never recognize KOSOVO, but maybe he will recognize KOSOVA. :)
(prizreni, 15 February 2009 15:44)

No Serbia will never recognize 'Kosova' either, because Serbia recognizes Kenya.
'Kosova' are bantu speaking people who inhabit the Kisii district of western Kenya. :)

[link]

Cheers!!
(Dragan, 15 February 2009 19:05)

Dragan, that link that you put on your comment comes from serbian web site, anyways it's going to be for you Bantu speaking people, somewhere in Kenya.
Let me tell you from where, comes the name of KOSOVA, it's a turkish word, when the ottomans were occupaying the balkans. KOS (Mow in English), OVASI (Field in English). So for the shortcut they (Ottomans), also called KOSOVA and not KOSOVO.

@ Ron

So was Serbia allowed to leave the Ottoman Empire? Serbia declared unilaterally from the Ottoman Empire (Just for the record, the Serbia which declared independence from the Ottoman Empire did not include Kosovo in its territory; FACT!).

Also my comment was comparing what Serbia has said before to what they have said now. If they have lied before whats stopping them from lying again?

Also @ Ron

FYI Mongolia wasn't allowed to leave China, but it did and eventually some years later China recognised it.

So if China can be persuaded into recognising Mongolia, I think it will be a lot easier persuading Serbia to recognise Kosovo. China was extremely anti-Mongolia, but was persuaded into recognising it. Remember China is a bit bigger than Serbia.

Oh enough with jeremic and his pusillanimous self! (pusillanimity. n. cowardice; mean-spiritedness)in a brief but pointed reference to yesterday's board :)

---

LOL roberto!

your comment truly made me laugh.. i guess when you copied that word from dictionairy.com, you must have accidentaly also copied its meaning, and pasted it on the comment section here.

just a heads up for the next time you wanna use words that are way above your head. :)

Ron,

if you haven't understood the concept of interstism in politics then you will never understand politics. That's why Kosovo trumps all these frozen conflicts; although there is hope for them. As far as Tibet you are comparing oranges with apples.
Ron also you keep forgetting that for the last few decades Kosovo's economy has been a black hole. Kosovo will be one of the few countries that won't be affected by the world wide depression. With valid passports Kosovars will now be able to go a lot of places in the world, master, and advance. Time is on our side, remember.

"Or may Tibet now leave China? Serious answer please." Ron
Lets answer that question once the UNSC votes (including Russia and China) to sever all economic, political, and military ties from China. Once talks break down and it is obvious that Tibet either remains a UN protectorate forever or becomes an independent state. You notice Russia is opposed to independence of Kosovo without Serbian consent but they are not advocating the return of Kosovo to the control of Serbia either.
You cannot give a serious answer about bananas when the question is about grapes.

Mr. Jeremic,

Not only will Serbia recognize Kosova's Independence but they will recognize Vojvodina's eventual Independence as well!!!

Freedom for All !!!

I totaly agree with THE MR JEREMIC, he knows what he is saying, keep walking Mr Jeremic who knows maybe you will be once the president of serbia

That one really made me laugh prizreni. First you claim that you are Illyrians, which is a joke, then you claim that the hundreds of Serbian churches throughout Kosovo are 'Byzantine' and belong to you, and now this claim that the word Kosovo, which is purely Serbian (Kos means 'blackbird'), is somehow a Turkish word...lol...truly, truly, pathetic. You just can't face the fact that Kosovo is Serbia, and has no evidence of albanian culture anywhere. Deal with reality, we live in the real world, not in a fantasy world.
Cheers!!

is russia who doesnt recognize tibet.. will russia recognize tibet??
will russia recognize kashmir??

russia is scare of china..
west has always ask for tibet to be free and they will recognize if russia recognize first.

Yes, Serbia will never recognize Kosovo. Why should Serbia recognize Kosovo, anyway? If Muslim Kosovors want their own republic; why don't they simply separate themselves from the Christian Serbs and allow the Christian Serbs to have their own churches, houses,cemeteries,businesses;shops, and schools instead of a Muslim Kosovar government trying to rule over everyone and everything in Kosovo-Muslims and Christians alike?