Ruling Socialists turn against Vojvodina statute

Why is Tadic doing this? Is it to keep the Hungarians on board and to keep Frankenstien alive? Are the Germans keen on attempting to dismember Serbia even further? I doubt that the majority of Vojvodjan's are in favour it. I for one am not.

Autonomy for regions etc has always been a part of DS party programme and is pretty much in line with centre left thinking in Europe so I'm not surprised by this.

I truly don't think there is any danger or question of Vojvodina independence, so my opinion is quite relaxed.

On the other hand the centre (in this case Belgrade) has to be careful not to bow to the demands of autonomists, particularly if that part of the country is the most developed part.

That story sounds familiar doesn't it, but this story has a different ending.

The Rolling Stones sounds much less archaic than Ruling Socialists especially when you think of the treason price they had to pay for entering the Coalition.

It is good to see the Church standing up for Serbia's interests. The Church has always defended Serbdom and kept it alive.
Those who are trying to subdivide Serbia further need to be removed from power, the sooner the better. They are working against Serbia's interests, period.

The JUG-OF-A-SALIVA syndrome is very powerful, ZK.

IT must be stopped first and as a start that bag of bones that was put there as its symbol be removed from Belgrade so that SERBS can start to reclaim every inch of territory taken by these theives and prosper as a tribe again and not as a state.

Loyalty to your own has become a bad word today.

The Church has a role to play to nuture the SERBIAN soul into the mighty force that it was and will become.

This syndrome has also affected every aspect of the EU states and Uncle Sam's existence. It is everywhere.

It is essentially self inflicetd as was the case with Serbs.

However. in the 'West' the tactic was to promote this syndrome externally however that show is very much over. It is so pervasive in its new hosts that their break up will make the break up of the balkans in the 90's a side show of history. And no this will not be good for anyone..

The concept of a nation,as we knew them has been systematically destroyed by these new hosts. So where to from here?

Humans are engaged in biological warfare of breeding and instead of Darwins theory prevailing the gene pool increasingly does not inherit from it's brightest, strongest and most adaptable.

So the church is against giving the right to the vojvodinians as they deserve?
Here is shown the thin generosity of the serbian church and then serbian politicians would follow through with this unbelievable idea.

One thing puzzles me. If the Parliament in Belgrade represents all of Serbia, and the Parliament in Novi Sad regionally represents Vojvodina, then why is there no parliament for the non-Vojvodina part of Serbia with comparable powers to Novi Sad?

It means that, on many issues, Vojvodina's representatives in Belgrade have legislative power over all of Serbia, but those representing the rest of Serbia have little or none over Vojvodina.

Is this fair?

75% of the province are serbs end of story. there is 1,700,000 serbs and not even 250,000 hungarians and the rest are small numbers so pretty much end of story.

Modern, relatively sophisticated European states (most of the 27 EU members) have regions that for various reasons, have distinct economic and political structures accorded to them. If the primitives/nationalists succeed in blocking this reform, I'm afraid that people who voted "For a European Serbia" at the last elections will hear another nail in the coffin of their hopes being banged in by Slobo's successor. Denying autonomy to Vojvodina would demonstrate not only the immaturity of the current "state" and its most recent "constitution" but also help convince the Spanish as to why Kosovo could never be treated like Catalonia. It's a shame for the citizens of Vojvodina - and the rest of Serbia.

Rashan 'and prosper as a tribe again and not as a state'.

Thats a good one, I thought you were serious for a minute. Hang on I'll just go fetch my totem poll to dance round....

Here we go again. Serbian state goes once again in the never ending cycle of fearing, opposing, jeopardizing, fighting and ultimately losing part of its own population and territory.

Everything changes, nothing is static. I believe that Serbian people risk of being sidelined on the fast paced evolution of the 21st Century.

I note that although at least seven people disapprove of my comments about Vojvodina (post No.8) no one seems able or willing to challenge it with a counter argument.

I asked if it was fair that Vojvodina's representatives can influence legislation that affects the rest of Serbia, but that, on many issues, representatives who are not from Vojvodina cannot do so in Vojvodina.

As an Englishman (England is NOT Britain but only the milk-cow part of it) I understand that many people in Vojvodina dislike subsidising the rest of Serbia.

But unlike England, which has no parliament of its own (The London Parliament is British, and there are regional parliaments for the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish) Vojvodina does at least have an extra level of democracy, however inadequate it might seem, denied to Serbs south of the Danube and Sava.

Ultimately, in my view, this is not really about democracy for Vojvodina but about the further balkanisation of Serbia by the West, and which will undoubtedly continue until Serbia comprises no more than Belgrade and Sumadija.

Perhaps that’s why so many non-Serbian former Yugoslavs seem, openly or otherwise, to support Vojvodina’s seccession.

On the plus side, at least speakers of Serbo-Croat (I still call it that) will be able to add another language – Vojvodinian - to their growing repertoire and become true polyglots!

I’ll say it once again, and not for the last time – Whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad!

(NB: ‘Mad’ means ‘Crazy’ in British English, not ‘Angry’ as in US English)

A state "controlled" by any religion is oppressed people.

I dont know why church has to interfere in countries politics.
What is wrong if vojvodinas people decide to have more say in their lives,economy and how to use their money since we know vojvodina is a backbone of serbias economy this people deserve at least how to spent their sureplus other than just giving away all to beograds politicians.

So the church is against giving the right to the vojvodinians as they deserve?
Here is shown the thin generosity of the serbian church and then serbian politicians would follow through with this unbelievable idea.

The JUG-OF-A-SALIVA syndrome is very powerful, ZK.

IT must be stopped first and as a start that bag of bones that was put there as its symbol be removed from Belgrade so that SERBS can start to reclaim every inch of territory taken by these theives and prosper as a tribe again and not as a state.

Loyalty to your own has become a bad word today.

The Church has a role to play to nuture the SERBIAN soul into the mighty force that it was and will become.

This syndrome has also affected every aspect of the EU states and Uncle Sam's existence. It is everywhere.

It is essentially self inflicetd as was the case with Serbs.

However. in the 'West' the tactic was to promote this syndrome externally however that show is very much over. It is so pervasive in its new hosts that their break up will make the break up of the balkans in the 90's a side show of history. And no this will not be good for anyone..

The concept of a nation,as we knew them has been systematically destroyed by these new hosts. So where to from here?

Humans are engaged in biological warfare of breeding and instead of Darwins theory prevailing the gene pool increasingly does not inherit from it's brightest, strongest and most adaptable.

Why is Tadic doing this? Is it to keep the Hungarians on board and to keep Frankenstien alive? Are the Germans keen on attempting to dismember Serbia even further? I doubt that the majority of Vojvodjan's are in favour it. I for one am not.

Modern, relatively sophisticated European states (most of the 27 EU members) have regions that for various reasons, have distinct economic and political structures accorded to them. If the primitives/nationalists succeed in blocking this reform, I'm afraid that people who voted "For a European Serbia" at the last elections will hear another nail in the coffin of their hopes being banged in by Slobo's successor. Denying autonomy to Vojvodina would demonstrate not only the immaturity of the current "state" and its most recent "constitution" but also help convince the Spanish as to why Kosovo could never be treated like Catalonia. It's a shame for the citizens of Vojvodina - and the rest of Serbia.

It is good to see the Church standing up for Serbia's interests. The Church has always defended Serbdom and kept it alive.
Those who are trying to subdivide Serbia further need to be removed from power, the sooner the better. They are working against Serbia's interests, period.

75% of the province are serbs end of story. there is 1,700,000 serbs and not even 250,000 hungarians and the rest are small numbers so pretty much end of story.

Autonomy for regions etc has always been a part of DS party programme and is pretty much in line with centre left thinking in Europe so I'm not surprised by this.

I truly don't think there is any danger or question of Vojvodina independence, so my opinion is quite relaxed.

On the other hand the centre (in this case Belgrade) has to be careful not to bow to the demands of autonomists, particularly if that part of the country is the most developed part.

That story sounds familiar doesn't it, but this story has a different ending.

The Rolling Stones sounds much less archaic than Ruling Socialists especially when you think of the treason price they had to pay for entering the Coalition.

Here we go again. Serbian state goes once again in the never ending cycle of fearing, opposing, jeopardizing, fighting and ultimately losing part of its own population and territory.

Everything changes, nothing is static. I believe that Serbian people risk of being sidelined on the fast paced evolution of the 21st Century.

One thing puzzles me. If the Parliament in Belgrade represents all of Serbia, and the Parliament in Novi Sad regionally represents Vojvodina, then why is there no parliament for the non-Vojvodina part of Serbia with comparable powers to Novi Sad?

It means that, on many issues, Vojvodina's representatives in Belgrade have legislative power over all of Serbia, but those representing the rest of Serbia have little or none over Vojvodina.

Is this fair?

Rashan 'and prosper as a tribe again and not as a state'.

Thats a good one, I thought you were serious for a minute. Hang on I'll just go fetch my totem poll to dance round....

I dont know why church has to interfere in countries politics.
What is wrong if vojvodinas people decide to have more say in their lives,economy and how to use their money since we know vojvodina is a backbone of serbias economy this people deserve at least how to spent their sureplus other than just giving away all to beograds politicians.

A state "controlled" by any religion is oppressed people.

I note that although at least seven people disapprove of my comments about Vojvodina (post No.8) no one seems able or willing to challenge it with a counter argument.

I asked if it was fair that Vojvodina's representatives can influence legislation that affects the rest of Serbia, but that, on many issues, representatives who are not from Vojvodina cannot do so in Vojvodina.

As an Englishman (England is NOT Britain but only the milk-cow part of it) I understand that many people in Vojvodina dislike subsidising the rest of Serbia.

But unlike England, which has no parliament of its own (The London Parliament is British, and there are regional parliaments for the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish) Vojvodina does at least have an extra level of democracy, however inadequate it might seem, denied to Serbs south of the Danube and Sava.

Ultimately, in my view, this is not really about democracy for Vojvodina but about the further balkanisation of Serbia by the West, and which will undoubtedly continue until Serbia comprises no more than Belgrade and Sumadija.

Perhaps that’s why so many non-Serbian former Yugoslavs seem, openly or otherwise, to support Vojvodina’s seccession.

On the plus side, at least speakers of Serbo-Croat (I still call it that) will be able to add another language – Vojvodinian - to their growing repertoire and become true polyglots!

I’ll say it once again, and not for the last time – Whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad!

(NB: ‘Mad’ means ‘Crazy’ in British English, not ‘Angry’ as in US English)