If Kosovo is not a state, then what do you call a place which has a defined territory, clear borders, recognized as independent by 55 best countries of the world, (this is the only way countries become independent...check the literature...), has its own police, military troops, and all other administrative organizations...has the presence of many foreign embassies...etc, etc, etc...
He said that a good example of a creative solution were those found by East and West Germany and Ireland and Northern Ireland.
The Germany and Ireland examples are purely political, and not related to the differences that Serbs and Albanians have in Kosovo. Better examples for comparison might be the Cubans in the Greater Miami Florida area, or the vast amount of Mexicans in Southern California. Both the Cubans and the Mexicans enjoy a majority population in those areas due to their large migrations over the years. Yet, have they been allowed or given the "freedom" of a UDI separation from the US??? Of course not....and what would the US do if the UN or some other international group recognized these "independent" countries??? But the US and the EU are demanding that Serbia give up it's sovereign territory without blinking an eye, and saying that there is no room for compromise (aka autonomy)- knowing full well that Kosovo has been a part of Serbia for 800 years- hundreds of years longer than Florida, California and the US have been in existence.
Last summer, I visited the monasteries of Visoki Decani and Pec, which were built by Serbs and their Kings in the 1300's. White men hadn't even yet arrived on the shores of North America. Yet America and the EU want "creative solutions" for a land, given to criminals, and taken away from a proud Christian people. Where is the "justice"???
Plus I really can't find any evidence that would suggest Kosovo would, or could, interfere in the affairs of Serbia Proper when they can't even interfere in the affairs of Kosovska Mitrovica.
Another example of institutional mismatch for the case under study.
I am not sure, it is ethical to negotiate with criminals.
Once Kosovo is represented by people who have no blood and drug money stick to their hands, we can talk about more creativity. And if they agree to full independence, than why not.
Few criminals and warlords declaring (in)dependance is not what it should be. If they are supported by certain US / EU /etc. lobbies and politics, this is not new either. Politics is rarely clean.
Agim Ramadani - If Serbia follows Mr Lagendik's advice they would in effect be recognising Kosovo which is why i don't see it happening and which is why it'll probably keep blocking Kosovo's admission to any trade/cultural body.
it'll also be a lot more difficult for Kosovo and many EU countries when Serbia wins it's case at the ICJ.
Every step that Serbia takes which could be interpreted as recognition strenghtens Kosovo's case so i don't imagine Serbia will be flexible unless we have examples such as EULEX where Serbia made clear that it would only accept EULEX if it followed the six point plan. it's irrelevant that EULEX doesn't follow it as Serbia categorically stated that the 6 points were the terms of it's agreement so it hasn't compromised it's position.
Mr Lagendik seems to overlook the fact when speaking about Serbia and Kosovo that on one hand you have a legitimate state with a functioning government, and on the other hand you have a province which is being managed as an international protectorate and is still legally part of Serbia.
He speaks as though both are on equal political and legal footing.
These are only diplomatic experiments worthy for a diploma thesis, but not realistic at all. Everybody knows that Serbia will never accept temporary solutions. On the other hand K-Albanian will never accept Kosovo even partially to be part of Serbia. So, we have totally diametrical positions, which are more similiar to Israeli-Palestinan configuration then BRD and DDR or N-Irland. Even if this idea seems to be an attempt to come to a solution, this will never happen based on this. Germans were divided politically, but they are all Germans. N-Ireland belong to the same culture and religion as Ireland. Serbian and Albanians even when they had to share the same territory and history, they are different and will never come together under the former Serbian state. Probably they will be part of EU together, but again as separate entities. The idea of this diplomat will give more argument to Albanians then Serbs to bring to nations together in the future-if we think about West-East Germany case. For me the only reasonable solution is bring Serbia back to Realpolitik for the sake of the prosperity of the country. If Serbia will continue the same nationalistic old politics and diplomacy will fail again. Smart Serbs knows that.
Mr Lagendik seems to overlook the fact when speaking about Serbia and Kosovo that on one hand you have a legitimate state with a functioning government, and on the other hand you have a province which is being managed as an international protectorate and is still legally part of Serbia.
He speaks as though both are on equal political and legal footing.
Plus I really can't find any evidence that would suggest Kosovo would, or could, interfere in the affairs of Serbia Proper when they can't even interfere in the affairs of Kosovska Mitrovica.
Another example of institutional mismatch for the case under study.
I am not sure, it is ethical to negotiate with criminals.
Once Kosovo is represented by people who have no blood and drug money stick to their hands, we can talk about more creativity. And if they agree to full independence, than why not.
Few criminals and warlords declaring (in)dependance is not what it should be. If they are supported by certain US / EU /etc. lobbies and politics, this is not new either. Politics is rarely clean.
Agim Ramadani - If Serbia follows Mr Lagendik's advice they would in effect be recognising Kosovo which is why i don't see it happening and which is why it'll probably keep blocking Kosovo's admission to any trade/cultural body.
it'll also be a lot more difficult for Kosovo and many EU countries when Serbia wins it's case at the ICJ.
Every step that Serbia takes which could be interpreted as recognition strenghtens Kosovo's case so i don't imagine Serbia will be flexible unless we have examples such as EULEX where Serbia made clear that it would only accept EULEX if it followed the six point plan. it's irrelevant that EULEX doesn't follow it as Serbia categorically stated that the 6 points were the terms of it's agreement so it hasn't compromised it's position.
These are only diplomatic experiments worthy for a diploma thesis, but not realistic at all. Everybody knows that Serbia will never accept temporary solutions. On the other hand K-Albanian will never accept Kosovo even partially to be part of Serbia. So, we have totally diametrical positions, which are more similiar to Israeli-Palestinan configuration then BRD and DDR or N-Irland. Even if this idea seems to be an attempt to come to a solution, this will never happen based on this. Germans were divided politically, but they are all Germans. N-Ireland belong to the same culture and religion as Ireland. Serbian and Albanians even when they had to share the same territory and history, they are different and will never come together under the former Serbian state. Probably they will be part of EU together, but again as separate entities. The idea of this diplomat will give more argument to Albanians then Serbs to bring to nations together in the future-if we think about West-East Germany case. For me the only reasonable solution is bring Serbia back to Realpolitik for the sake of the prosperity of the country. If Serbia will continue the same nationalistic old politics and diplomacy will fail again. Smart Serbs knows that.
He said that a good example of a creative solution were those found by East and West Germany and Ireland and Northern Ireland.
The Germany and Ireland examples are purely political, and not related to the differences that Serbs and Albanians have in Kosovo. Better examples for comparison might be the Cubans in the Greater Miami Florida area, or the vast amount of Mexicans in Southern California. Both the Cubans and the Mexicans enjoy a majority population in those areas due to their large migrations over the years. Yet, have they been allowed or given the "freedom" of a UDI separation from the US??? Of course not....and what would the US do if the UN or some other international group recognized these "independent" countries??? But the US and the EU are demanding that Serbia give up it's sovereign territory without blinking an eye, and saying that there is no room for compromise (aka autonomy)- knowing full well that Kosovo has been a part of Serbia for 800 years- hundreds of years longer than Florida, California and the US have been in existence.
Last summer, I visited the monasteries of Visoki Decani and Pec, which were built by Serbs and their Kings in the 1300's. White men hadn't even yet arrived on the shores of North America. Yet America and the EU want "creative solutions" for a land, given to criminals, and taken away from a proud Christian people. Where is the "justice"???
If Kosovo is not a state, then what do you call a place which has a defined territory, clear borders, recognized as independent by 55 best countries of the world, (this is the only way countries become independent...check the literature...), has its own police, military troops, and all other administrative organizations...has the presence of many foreign embassies...etc, etc, etc...
These are only diplomatic experiments worthy for a diploma thesis, but not realistic at all. Everybody knows that Serbia will never accept temporary solutions. On the other hand K-Albanian will never accept Kosovo even partially to be part of Serbia. So, we have totally diametrical positions, which are more similiar to Israeli-Palestinan configuration then BRD and DDR or N-Irland. Even if this idea seems to be an attempt to come to a solution, this will never happen based on this. Germans were divided politically, but they are all Germans. N-Ireland belong to the same culture and religion as Ireland. Serbian and Albanians even when they had to share the same territory and history, they are different and will never come together under the former Serbian state. Probably they will be part of EU together, but again as separate entities. The idea of this diplomat will give more argument to Albanians then Serbs to bring to nations together in the future-if we think about West-East Germany case. For me the only reasonable solution is bring Serbia back to Realpolitik for the sake of the prosperity of the country. If Serbia will continue the same nationalistic old politics and diplomacy will fail again. Smart Serbs knows that.
Mr Lagendik seems to overlook the fact when speaking about Serbia and Kosovo that on one hand you have a legitimate state with a functioning government, and on the other hand you have a province which is being managed as an international protectorate and is still legally part of Serbia.
He speaks as though both are on equal political and legal footing.
If Kosovo is not a state, then what do you call a place which has a defined territory, clear borders, recognized as independent by 55 best countries of the world, (this is the only way countries become independent...check the literature...), has its own police, military troops, and all other administrative organizations...has the presence of many foreign embassies...etc, etc, etc...
I am not sure, it is ethical to negotiate with criminals.
Once Kosovo is represented by people who have no blood and drug money stick to their hands, we can talk about more creativity. And if they agree to full independence, than why not.
Few criminals and warlords declaring (in)dependance is not what it should be. If they are supported by certain US / EU /etc. lobbies and politics, this is not new either. Politics is rarely clean.
Agim Ramadani - If Serbia follows Mr Lagendik's advice they would in effect be recognising Kosovo which is why i don't see it happening and which is why it'll probably keep blocking Kosovo's admission to any trade/cultural body.
it'll also be a lot more difficult for Kosovo and many EU countries when Serbia wins it's case at the ICJ.
Every step that Serbia takes which could be interpreted as recognition strenghtens Kosovo's case so i don't imagine Serbia will be flexible unless we have examples such as EULEX where Serbia made clear that it would only accept EULEX if it followed the six point plan. it's irrelevant that EULEX doesn't follow it as Serbia categorically stated that the 6 points were the terms of it's agreement so it hasn't compromised it's position.
Plus I really can't find any evidence that would suggest Kosovo would, or could, interfere in the affairs of Serbia Proper when they can't even interfere in the affairs of Kosovska Mitrovica.
Another example of institutional mismatch for the case under study.
He said that a good example of a creative solution were those found by East and West Germany and Ireland and Northern Ireland.
The Germany and Ireland examples are purely political, and not related to the differences that Serbs and Albanians have in Kosovo. Better examples for comparison might be the Cubans in the Greater Miami Florida area, or the vast amount of Mexicans in Southern California. Both the Cubans and the Mexicans enjoy a majority population in those areas due to their large migrations over the years. Yet, have they been allowed or given the "freedom" of a UDI separation from the US??? Of course not....and what would the US do if the UN or some other international group recognized these "independent" countries??? But the US and the EU are demanding that Serbia give up it's sovereign territory without blinking an eye, and saying that there is no room for compromise (aka autonomy)- knowing full well that Kosovo has been a part of Serbia for 800 years- hundreds of years longer than Florida, California and the US have been in existence.
Last summer, I visited the monasteries of Visoki Decani and Pec, which were built by Serbs and their Kings in the 1300's. White men hadn't even yet arrived on the shores of North America. Yet America and the EU want "creative solutions" for a land, given to criminals, and taken away from a proud Christian people. Where is the "justice"???
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