You should know that Madam B is from albanian origin...So if i were you,i will not be as happy as you are.
we know were we are going,it will take time,but less than it took to get rid of serbian oppression!
Unfortunately on the Balkans the countries still play very complicated chess games. Quite unlike Western Eruope where a true reconciliation took place. So In W. Europe proximity means friendship, on the Balkans it means hostility. Austria was happy to support Slovenia, Greece remains as hostile towards macedonia as it could be. And it hopes to have an ally on their back.
It is even rediculous to suggest that Greece will recognise Kosovo - or will hesitate to take any other decision vital for her interests - because some Danish people... that will not come to Greece for vacation!!
This is plain stupidity and I cannot comment seriously on that. It is true that one of the main incomes of Greece is tourism (23 million tourists per year, 15 billion euros per year - if you want to have some numbers..) but this has nothing to do with the foreign policy.
Americans are one of the main visitors during vacation, but last year Greece vetoed Fyrom from entering NATO, making the Americans furious and destroyng their efforts for a succesful NATO summit. And this is the americans we are talking about, not some "Danish" or "Norwegian"...
So when it has do about foreign policy and it's intersets, Greece always does what she thinks is is right, and doesn't care or fear about anything else. Greece has proven herself multiple times - even recently. So look at your own country if you look for "scared pets" in foreign policy, and not Greece...
Is Spain an irrelevant country too, according to your rants about who is important and who is not? BTW Sure, Romania is corrupt, but Albania and Kosovo rank much higher in terms of corruption and will be purely receivers rather than givers of aid. What will you say then?
Peter,
You are MISSING THE POINT! The thing is that overwhelming majority of EU countries have recognised Kosova as an independent country. No one with a sound logic can deny that. Most of the countries that have recognised Kosova as an independent are the backbone of the EU. Can we agree on that?. My comment regarding the relevance of the countries that have not recognised Kosova as independent yet is mainly because they are more worried about there internal problems rather than international law. Do you get my point? Why on earth the will of the fewest should dominate the will of the overwhelming majority in the EU for example Cyprus to block Kosova's entry in EU. That is paradox and that is why EU need to reform itself. One more thing. Talking about corruption in Kosova your expectation are as high as to consolidated country. It is a newborn country and progress has been made. It will take some time of course. That is why EULEX is there to help to consolidate the democratic institutions and the rule of law.
Gezim Disha
If the Turks can get away with Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, then I don't know what crimes you are talking about when it comes to Greeks and Serbs (OK, apart from what they did to the Bosniaks)
(Peter Sudyka, 2 February 2009 11:31)
@EA - Yes, it is annoying when a single EU-country can block a another country's entry into the EU. But getting rid of the veto-right is not the solution. Without it, many small countries would not have felt comfortable joining the EU, and the EU would have remained a German-France-UK club. I think it is better to keep the veto right, and simply let the process take whatever time is needed.
@The Greek: We will face the strong reaction and objection by the Greek people?? Don't make me laugh, please. Greek wouldn't dare do anything strong against anyone in fear of what impact that could have on tourism. I don't have the numbers, but I guess tourism is one of the major sources of foreign income in Greece. Imagine if tourists from Denmark, Sweden, Norway, UK, Germany decided that "Nah - we are not welcome in Greece any more, let's go to Spain, let's go to Turkey" and Greece saw a 15% dip in the tourist trade? More un-employment, many new recruits for the 700€ brigade. I think you better reconsider what kind of strong response your country can really afford to mount.
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Although i dont like bakoyiannis her statement is excellent and very diplomatic...
Economic ties with Greece-Kosovo must be closer, after all it's the poor people of Kosovo who is going to gain from this...60% unemployent and 250 euros payment for them, and some idiots are thinking the chams(Nazi collaborators who payed the price for it..)
Wake up, and see who are ruling u (Thaci with 7000euros at month), mafia,gamblers,drug dealers.....
International Law must be respected everywhere.....
And is the Albanian state who must ask for forgiveness for the Northern Epirotes who's land is continuously grabbing....
I have seen some comments talking about """Macedonians""" and "Macedonian ethnic minority in Greece". Ask the people in Macedonia (Greek region, The original) if they feel """Ethnic Macedonians""" or simply Greeks. Then come write comments about this subject. People who bet against Greece will loose.
Is Spain an irrelevant country too, according to your rants about who is important and who is not? BTW Sure, Romania is corrupt, but Albania and Kosovo rank much higher in terms of corruption and will be purely receivers rather than givers of aid. What will you say then?
Gezim Disha
If the Turks can get away with Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, then I don't know what crimes you are talking about when it comes to Greeks and Serbs (OK, apart from what they did to the Bosniaks)
"Believe me Peggy, one day Greece will pay for the atrocities it has committed to the Albanian chams.
The days when Serbia and Greece could get away with murder are over.
(Gezim Disha, 2 February 2009 08:02)"
What makes you think that? Have you seen your friends, the Turks paying for any of the true evil deeds they have done through centuries of history to so many nations? Believe me Gezim, Greece has nothing to pay for. They should receive paid damages. Greeks are from here, good neighours, and we know them...
Believe me, Greece will not tow the line because of some perceived unrest you are implying.
(Peggy, 1 February 2009 23:15)
Believe me Peggy, one day Greece will pay for the atrocities it has committed to the Albanian chams.
The days when Serbia and Greece could get away with murder are over.
I just cannot wait to read the comments when Greece recognises Kosova. (Greece will recognise Kosova sooner rather then later)
Comments will be all empty without words!
It is not what she said. It is what she did not say.
True, she did not say, "Greece will recognize Kosovo."
But, she also did not say "Greece will never recognize Kosovo."
Bakoyanis merely stated that Greece has not changed it policy (YET. Did I hear YET? Maybe not, but nevertheless.)
What she chose to emphasize is that Greece makes its decision based on "international law, taking into account its national interests, the region's stability and European values."
For the sake of the region's stability and the European values and with the right decision by ICJ Greece too can (will?) come on board and recognize Kosovo as a state.
Don't forget 1999. Greece did agree then with the bombing of Belgrade.
This is only a matter of time. Athens has rightly set a price for its acceptance, until that is paid its policy towards Kosovo will not changed.
As "The Greek" poster stated here above, it could cost the ruling party in the next elections.
Therefore, the recognition from Greece will not come before the next elections and maybe not until one year after them. But who's counting: Kosovo is rightly looking elsewhere for the moment. It's the nature of the game.
Look, we can keep talking about the merits of Kosovo to be independent but there is no turning back in this process, just like Austria never became German again or the States never became British again. Whether these and other like these justified moves, they happened happened and now it's history.
Time will come when the greek government pays very high price for its' mistakes and stupidity. Greece has to know that they are in the middle of Giant Turks, Macedonians an Albanians who all three unfortunately don't see greece as a friend!. Others should learn from greek's wrongdoings.
(Nelli_Canada, 1 February 2009 21:31)
What, more threats!
If the Montenegrins don't do as you ask you threaten, if the Macedonians don't give you what you want, you threaten, the Serbs, well you already carried out your thret there and now you are threatening Greece.
Who is next?
Do you really think that you are so powerful and everyone trembles in front of you?
Believe me, Greece will not tow the line because of some perceived unrest you are implying.
Am I surprised with greece?, not at all. The only country who doesn't recognize the minorities..hmmmm I don't expect anything productive from them. There are over 3 million ethnic Albanians Çams and Arvanits with not even the basic human rights.. well, so are almost a million ethnic Macedonians.
Time will come when the greek government pays very high price for its' mistakes and stupidity. Greece has to know that they are in the middle of Giant Turks, Macedonians an Albanians who all three unfortunately don't see greece as a friend!. Others should learn from greek's wrongdoings.
Of course the position of the Greek goverment - relating to Kosovo - remains unchanged. And it remains unchanged ONLY for one reason:
The Greek people believes that Kosovo is a part of Serbia, that was barbarically taken by force, by the USA and some other specific countries of Europe. And of course, the Albanians are nothing more than occupiers in a trully Serb land. So if ANY goverment dares to recognise Kosovo, it will face the strong reaction and objection by the Greek people. No matter if the whole (american-controlled) planet will recognise the illegal republic of Kosovo, Greece, Cyprus (and Russia) won't.
And let's see for how long this illegal protectorate will keep existing like that... soon it will be what has always been for centuries. Serb land.
For all Kosovars care they can go to Greece with a Kosovan Passport. Kosovo and Greece should have a bilateral agreement to further progress economic trade between both countries.
By the way, I am not sure why B92 did not report it but recently Bulgaria recognized the Passport of Republic of Kosovo. Thank you.
"Greece is one of five EU countries that have refused to recognize the Kosovo Albanian declaration."
No surprise here. The thing is nothing can stop Kosova's independence even the Greek "god". Will it delay the process. Of course it will. We live in a paradoxal world. Slovenia is delaying the entry of Albania and Croatia in NATO because of its border dispute with Croatia. It is crazy to see how an EU country can block the entry of another country in its institutions. The payback time will come but the price will be extremely high! EU need to reform itself of allowing a irrelevant member to block the will of the overwhelming majority. These blocking countries are the main grabbers when it comes to financial support from the EU. Let's not talk about corruption in Romania.
Of course the position of the Greek goverment - relating to Kosovo - remains unchanged. And it remains unchanged ONLY for one reason:
The Greek people believes that Kosovo is a part of Serbia, that was barbarically taken by force, by the USA and some other specific countries of Europe. And of course, the Albanians are nothing more than occupiers in a trully Serb land. So if ANY goverment dares to recognise Kosovo, it will face the strong reaction and objection by the Greek people. No matter if the whole (american-controlled) planet will recognise the illegal republic of Kosovo, Greece, Cyprus (and Russia) won't.
And let's see for how long this illegal protectorate will keep existing like that... soon it will be what has always been for centuries. Serb land.
Time will come when the greek government pays very high price for its' mistakes and stupidity. Greece has to know that they are in the middle of Giant Turks, Macedonians an Albanians who all three unfortunately don't see greece as a friend!. Others should learn from greek's wrongdoings.
(Nelli_Canada, 1 February 2009 21:31)
What, more threats!
If the Montenegrins don't do as you ask you threaten, if the Macedonians don't give you what you want, you threaten, the Serbs, well you already carried out your thret there and now you are threatening Greece.
Who is next?
Do you really think that you are so powerful and everyone trembles in front of you?
Believe me, Greece will not tow the line because of some perceived unrest you are implying.
"Greece is one of five EU countries that have refused to recognize the Kosovo Albanian declaration."
No surprise here. The thing is nothing can stop Kosova's independence even the Greek "god". Will it delay the process. Of course it will. We live in a paradoxal world. Slovenia is delaying the entry of Albania and Croatia in NATO because of its border dispute with Croatia. It is crazy to see how an EU country can block the entry of another country in its institutions. The payback time will come but the price will be extremely high! EU need to reform itself of allowing a irrelevant member to block the will of the overwhelming majority. These blocking countries are the main grabbers when it comes to financial support from the EU. Let's not talk about corruption in Romania.
"Believe me Peggy, one day Greece will pay for the atrocities it has committed to the Albanian chams.
The days when Serbia and Greece could get away with murder are over.
(Gezim Disha, 2 February 2009 08:02)"
What makes you think that? Have you seen your friends, the Turks paying for any of the true evil deeds they have done through centuries of history to so many nations? Believe me Gezim, Greece has nothing to pay for. They should receive paid damages. Greeks are from here, good neighours, and we know them...
Although i dont like bakoyiannis her statement is excellent and very diplomatic...
Economic ties with Greece-Kosovo must be closer, after all it's the poor people of Kosovo who is going to gain from this...60% unemployent and 250 euros payment for them, and some idiots are thinking the chams(Nazi collaborators who payed the price for it..)
Wake up, and see who are ruling u (Thaci with 7000euros at month), mafia,gamblers,drug dealers.....
International Law must be respected everywhere.....
And is the Albanian state who must ask for forgiveness for the Northern Epirotes who's land is continuously grabbing....
It is even rediculous to suggest that Greece will recognise Kosovo - or will hesitate to take any other decision vital for her interests - because some Danish people... that will not come to Greece for vacation!!
This is plain stupidity and I cannot comment seriously on that. It is true that one of the main incomes of Greece is tourism (23 million tourists per year, 15 billion euros per year - if you want to have some numbers..) but this has nothing to do with the foreign policy.
Americans are one of the main visitors during vacation, but last year Greece vetoed Fyrom from entering NATO, making the Americans furious and destroyng their efforts for a succesful NATO summit. And this is the americans we are talking about, not some "Danish" or "Norwegian"...
So when it has do about foreign policy and it's intersets, Greece always does what she thinks is is right, and doesn't care or fear about anything else. Greece has proven herself multiple times - even recently. So look at your own country if you look for "scared pets" in foreign policy, and not Greece...
For all Kosovars care they can go to Greece with a Kosovan Passport. Kosovo and Greece should have a bilateral agreement to further progress economic trade between both countries.
By the way, I am not sure why B92 did not report it but recently Bulgaria recognized the Passport of Republic of Kosovo. Thank you.
Am I surprised with greece?, not at all. The only country who doesn't recognize the minorities..hmmmm I don't expect anything productive from them. There are over 3 million ethnic Albanians Çams and Arvanits with not even the basic human rights.. well, so are almost a million ethnic Macedonians.
Time will come when the greek government pays very high price for its' mistakes and stupidity. Greece has to know that they are in the middle of Giant Turks, Macedonians an Albanians who all three unfortunately don't see greece as a friend!. Others should learn from greek's wrongdoings.
I have seen some comments talking about """Macedonians""" and "Macedonian ethnic minority in Greece". Ask the people in Macedonia (Greek region, The original) if they feel """Ethnic Macedonians""" or simply Greeks. Then come write comments about this subject. People who bet against Greece will loose.
It is not what she said. It is what she did not say.
True, she did not say, "Greece will recognize Kosovo."
But, she also did not say "Greece will never recognize Kosovo."
Bakoyanis merely stated that Greece has not changed it policy (YET. Did I hear YET? Maybe not, but nevertheless.)
What she chose to emphasize is that Greece makes its decision based on "international law, taking into account its national interests, the region's stability and European values."
For the sake of the region's stability and the European values and with the right decision by ICJ Greece too can (will?) come on board and recognize Kosovo as a state.
Don't forget 1999. Greece did agree then with the bombing of Belgrade.
This is only a matter of time. Athens has rightly set a price for its acceptance, until that is paid its policy towards Kosovo will not changed.
As "The Greek" poster stated here above, it could cost the ruling party in the next elections.
Therefore, the recognition from Greece will not come before the next elections and maybe not until one year after them. But who's counting: Kosovo is rightly looking elsewhere for the moment. It's the nature of the game.
Look, we can keep talking about the merits of Kosovo to be independent but there is no turning back in this process, just like Austria never became German again or the States never became British again. Whether these and other like these justified moves, they happened happened and now it's history.
Is Spain an irrelevant country too, according to your rants about who is important and who is not? BTW Sure, Romania is corrupt, but Albania and Kosovo rank much higher in terms of corruption and will be purely receivers rather than givers of aid. What will you say then?
Gezim Disha
If the Turks can get away with Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, then I don't know what crimes you are talking about when it comes to Greeks and Serbs (OK, apart from what they did to the Bosniaks)
@EA - Yes, it is annoying when a single EU-country can block a another country's entry into the EU. But getting rid of the veto-right is not the solution. Without it, many small countries would not have felt comfortable joining the EU, and the EU would have remained a German-France-UK club. I think it is better to keep the veto right, and simply let the process take whatever time is needed.
@The Greek: We will face the strong reaction and objection by the Greek people?? Don't make me laugh, please. Greek wouldn't dare do anything strong against anyone in fear of what impact that could have on tourism. I don't have the numbers, but I guess tourism is one of the major sources of foreign income in Greece. Imagine if tourists from Denmark, Sweden, Norway, UK, Germany decided that "Nah - we are not welcome in Greece any more, let's go to Spain, let's go to Turkey" and Greece saw a 15% dip in the tourist trade? More un-employment, many new recruits for the 700€ brigade. I think you better reconsider what kind of strong response your country can really afford to mount.
--
Believe me, Greece will not tow the line because of some perceived unrest you are implying.
(Peggy, 1 February 2009 23:15)
Believe me Peggy, one day Greece will pay for the atrocities it has committed to the Albanian chams.
The days when Serbia and Greece could get away with murder are over.
Is Spain an irrelevant country too, according to your rants about who is important and who is not? BTW Sure, Romania is corrupt, but Albania and Kosovo rank much higher in terms of corruption and will be purely receivers rather than givers of aid. What will you say then?
Peter,
You are MISSING THE POINT! The thing is that overwhelming majority of EU countries have recognised Kosova as an independent country. No one with a sound logic can deny that. Most of the countries that have recognised Kosova as an independent are the backbone of the EU. Can we agree on that?. My comment regarding the relevance of the countries that have not recognised Kosova as independent yet is mainly because they are more worried about there internal problems rather than international law. Do you get my point? Why on earth the will of the fewest should dominate the will of the overwhelming majority in the EU for example Cyprus to block Kosova's entry in EU. That is paradox and that is why EU need to reform itself. One more thing. Talking about corruption in Kosova your expectation are as high as to consolidated country. It is a newborn country and progress has been made. It will take some time of course. That is why EULEX is there to help to consolidate the democratic institutions and the rule of law.
Gezim Disha
If the Turks can get away with Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, then I don't know what crimes you are talking about when it comes to Greeks and Serbs (OK, apart from what they did to the Bosniaks)
(Peter Sudyka, 2 February 2009 11:31)
I just cannot wait to read the comments when Greece recognises Kosova. (Greece will recognise Kosova sooner rather then later)
Comments will be all empty without words!
Unfortunately on the Balkans the countries still play very complicated chess games. Quite unlike Western Eruope where a true reconciliation took place. So In W. Europe proximity means friendship, on the Balkans it means hostility. Austria was happy to support Slovenia, Greece remains as hostile towards macedonia as it could be. And it hopes to have an ally on their back.
You should know that Madam B is from albanian origin...So if i were you,i will not be as happy as you are.
we know were we are going,it will take time,but less than it took to get rid of serbian oppression!
Am I surprised with greece?, not at all. The only country who doesn't recognize the minorities..hmmmm I don't expect anything productive from them. There are over 3 million ethnic Albanians Çams and Arvanits with not even the basic human rights.. well, so are almost a million ethnic Macedonians.
Time will come when the greek government pays very high price for its' mistakes and stupidity. Greece has to know that they are in the middle of Giant Turks, Macedonians an Albanians who all three unfortunately don't see greece as a friend!. Others should learn from greek's wrongdoings.
"Greece is one of five EU countries that have refused to recognize the Kosovo Albanian declaration."
No surprise here. The thing is nothing can stop Kosova's independence even the Greek "god". Will it delay the process. Of course it will. We live in a paradoxal world. Slovenia is delaying the entry of Albania and Croatia in NATO because of its border dispute with Croatia. It is crazy to see how an EU country can block the entry of another country in its institutions. The payback time will come but the price will be extremely high! EU need to reform itself of allowing a irrelevant member to block the will of the overwhelming majority. These blocking countries are the main grabbers when it comes to financial support from the EU. Let's not talk about corruption in Romania.
For all Kosovars care they can go to Greece with a Kosovan Passport. Kosovo and Greece should have a bilateral agreement to further progress economic trade between both countries.
By the way, I am not sure why B92 did not report it but recently Bulgaria recognized the Passport of Republic of Kosovo. Thank you.
Believe me, Greece will not tow the line because of some perceived unrest you are implying.
(Peggy, 1 February 2009 23:15)
Believe me Peggy, one day Greece will pay for the atrocities it has committed to the Albanian chams.
The days when Serbia and Greece could get away with murder are over.
Of course the position of the Greek goverment - relating to Kosovo - remains unchanged. And it remains unchanged ONLY for one reason:
The Greek people believes that Kosovo is a part of Serbia, that was barbarically taken by force, by the USA and some other specific countries of Europe. And of course, the Albanians are nothing more than occupiers in a trully Serb land. So if ANY goverment dares to recognise Kosovo, it will face the strong reaction and objection by the Greek people. No matter if the whole (american-controlled) planet will recognise the illegal republic of Kosovo, Greece, Cyprus (and Russia) won't.
And let's see for how long this illegal protectorate will keep existing like that... soon it will be what has always been for centuries. Serb land.
It is not what she said. It is what she did not say.
True, she did not say, "Greece will recognize Kosovo."
But, she also did not say "Greece will never recognize Kosovo."
Bakoyanis merely stated that Greece has not changed it policy (YET. Did I hear YET? Maybe not, but nevertheless.)
What she chose to emphasize is that Greece makes its decision based on "international law, taking into account its national interests, the region's stability and European values."
For the sake of the region's stability and the European values and with the right decision by ICJ Greece too can (will?) come on board and recognize Kosovo as a state.
Don't forget 1999. Greece did agree then with the bombing of Belgrade.
This is only a matter of time. Athens has rightly set a price for its acceptance, until that is paid its policy towards Kosovo will not changed.
As "The Greek" poster stated here above, it could cost the ruling party in the next elections.
Therefore, the recognition from Greece will not come before the next elections and maybe not until one year after them. But who's counting: Kosovo is rightly looking elsewhere for the moment. It's the nature of the game.
Look, we can keep talking about the merits of Kosovo to be independent but there is no turning back in this process, just like Austria never became German again or the States never became British again. Whether these and other like these justified moves, they happened happened and now it's history.
I just cannot wait to read the comments when Greece recognises Kosova. (Greece will recognise Kosova sooner rather then later)
Comments will be all empty without words!
Time will come when the greek government pays very high price for its' mistakes and stupidity. Greece has to know that they are in the middle of Giant Turks, Macedonians an Albanians who all three unfortunately don't see greece as a friend!. Others should learn from greek's wrongdoings.
(Nelli_Canada, 1 February 2009 21:31)
What, more threats!
If the Montenegrins don't do as you ask you threaten, if the Macedonians don't give you what you want, you threaten, the Serbs, well you already carried out your thret there and now you are threatening Greece.
Who is next?
Do you really think that you are so powerful and everyone trembles in front of you?
Believe me, Greece will not tow the line because of some perceived unrest you are implying.
@EA - Yes, it is annoying when a single EU-country can block a another country's entry into the EU. But getting rid of the veto-right is not the solution. Without it, many small countries would not have felt comfortable joining the EU, and the EU would have remained a German-France-UK club. I think it is better to keep the veto right, and simply let the process take whatever time is needed.
@The Greek: We will face the strong reaction and objection by the Greek people?? Don't make me laugh, please. Greek wouldn't dare do anything strong against anyone in fear of what impact that could have on tourism. I don't have the numbers, but I guess tourism is one of the major sources of foreign income in Greece. Imagine if tourists from Denmark, Sweden, Norway, UK, Germany decided that "Nah - we are not welcome in Greece any more, let's go to Spain, let's go to Turkey" and Greece saw a 15% dip in the tourist trade? More un-employment, many new recruits for the 700€ brigade. I think you better reconsider what kind of strong response your country can really afford to mount.
--
"Believe me Peggy, one day Greece will pay for the atrocities it has committed to the Albanian chams.
The days when Serbia and Greece could get away with murder are over.
(Gezim Disha, 2 February 2009 08:02)"
What makes you think that? Have you seen your friends, the Turks paying for any of the true evil deeds they have done through centuries of history to so many nations? Believe me Gezim, Greece has nothing to pay for. They should receive paid damages. Greeks are from here, good neighours, and we know them...
Although i dont like bakoyiannis her statement is excellent and very diplomatic...
Economic ties with Greece-Kosovo must be closer, after all it's the poor people of Kosovo who is going to gain from this...60% unemployent and 250 euros payment for them, and some idiots are thinking the chams(Nazi collaborators who payed the price for it..)
Wake up, and see who are ruling u (Thaci with 7000euros at month), mafia,gamblers,drug dealers.....
International Law must be respected everywhere.....
And is the Albanian state who must ask for forgiveness for the Northern Epirotes who's land is continuously grabbing....
Is Spain an irrelevant country too, according to your rants about who is important and who is not? BTW Sure, Romania is corrupt, but Albania and Kosovo rank much higher in terms of corruption and will be purely receivers rather than givers of aid. What will you say then?
Peter,
You are MISSING THE POINT! The thing is that overwhelming majority of EU countries have recognised Kosova as an independent country. No one with a sound logic can deny that. Most of the countries that have recognised Kosova as an independent are the backbone of the EU. Can we agree on that?. My comment regarding the relevance of the countries that have not recognised Kosova as independent yet is mainly because they are more worried about there internal problems rather than international law. Do you get my point? Why on earth the will of the fewest should dominate the will of the overwhelming majority in the EU for example Cyprus to block Kosova's entry in EU. That is paradox and that is why EU need to reform itself. One more thing. Talking about corruption in Kosova your expectation are as high as to consolidated country. It is a newborn country and progress has been made. It will take some time of course. That is why EULEX is there to help to consolidate the democratic institutions and the rule of law.
Gezim Disha
If the Turks can get away with Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, then I don't know what crimes you are talking about when it comes to Greeks and Serbs (OK, apart from what they did to the Bosniaks)
(Peter Sudyka, 2 February 2009 11:31)
Is Spain an irrelevant country too, according to your rants about who is important and who is not? BTW Sure, Romania is corrupt, but Albania and Kosovo rank much higher in terms of corruption and will be purely receivers rather than givers of aid. What will you say then?
Gezim Disha
If the Turks can get away with Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide and Greek genocide, then I don't know what crimes you are talking about when it comes to Greeks and Serbs (OK, apart from what they did to the Bosniaks)
I have seen some comments talking about """Macedonians""" and "Macedonian ethnic minority in Greece". Ask the people in Macedonia (Greek region, The original) if they feel """Ethnic Macedonians""" or simply Greeks. Then come write comments about this subject. People who bet against Greece will loose.
It is even rediculous to suggest that Greece will recognise Kosovo - or will hesitate to take any other decision vital for her interests - because some Danish people... that will not come to Greece for vacation!!
This is plain stupidity and I cannot comment seriously on that. It is true that one of the main incomes of Greece is tourism (23 million tourists per year, 15 billion euros per year - if you want to have some numbers..) but this has nothing to do with the foreign policy.
Americans are one of the main visitors during vacation, but last year Greece vetoed Fyrom from entering NATO, making the Americans furious and destroyng their efforts for a succesful NATO summit. And this is the americans we are talking about, not some "Danish" or "Norwegian"...
So when it has do about foreign policy and it's intersets, Greece always does what she thinks is is right, and doesn't care or fear about anything else. Greece has proven herself multiple times - even recently. So look at your own country if you look for "scared pets" in foreign policy, and not Greece...
Unfortunately on the Balkans the countries still play very complicated chess games. Quite unlike Western Eruope where a true reconciliation took place. So In W. Europe proximity means friendship, on the Balkans it means hostility. Austria was happy to support Slovenia, Greece remains as hostile towards macedonia as it could be. And it hopes to have an ally on their back.
You should know that Madam B is from albanian origin...So if i were you,i will not be as happy as you are.
we know were we are going,it will take time,but less than it took to get rid of serbian oppression!
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