Bosnia: Streets named after "prominent Ustasha"

Of course they name streets after Nazis, because Croats were never punished for their brutal war crimes, and were in fact rewarded. They are proud of their Ustashe past, and this here is the proof.
Are their friends in the Brussels and Washington listening?? Have they woken up to the truth yet, that they were supporting the wrong side through all these wars?? The truth will come out, even though CNN will not report this I am sure.

I’ve been to Mostar. Even nearly 10 years after Croatian forces brutally attacked their “allies” the Bosniaks, many parts of the city were in complete ruin. It was the worst destruction I saw in all of the Balkans during my travels.

It shocks the conscious that some Croatians still glorify the Ustashe. It was the revival of the symbols of the Ustashe State that put such great fear and apprehension into the hearts of the average Serb who survived (or whose parents survived) the terrible holocaust of WWII.

Is it any wonder that Serbians picked up a gun and vowed “Never Again” and protected their homes by any means necessary? While both Milosevic and Tudjman abused this fear in order to carry out their own evil agendas, the sad reality is anywhere the Serbs did not fight and win, they are no more.

The Ustashe dream of a Serb free Croatia has been realized, yet for some reason, the Croatian government celebrates this fact as a national holiday. To this day, Krajina is covered in Ustashe and Nazi graffiti on all the burned out homes and churches, a silent reminder to Serbs not to return to the homes of their ancestors.

If there is to be lasting peace, these symbols of genocide and oppression must be outlawed. Fear should not be allowed to be utilized by evil men with evil intentions. Far too much blood has been shed by a people that all speak the same language, a people who are in reality all brothers.

Felt the need to point out that a fraction of croats are nazis. You have people like this in every race and color. What is surprising is that they are allowed to name streets and burn flags/cars etc without any intervention from their own?

Matthew I could not have written it better myself.

Croats are happy to talk about how quick the Serbs were to take to arms but the truth is that anybody would have rejected cooperation with the Croatian government given past history.

For some Serbs this really was the second coming of the Ustasa and worse still Tudjman knew they would feel this way. That is the kind of crime that does not have a name at the Hague.

You are also right about Mostar - the town that is forgotten compared to Sarajevo, the town that has been rebuilt.

And Mostar makes Sarajevo look like a haven of multiethnic tolerance as well...

Is there any wonder why they are hated so much... they are even hated by moderate Croats from Croatia. Something more should have been done to deal with this small fraction of Croats that provide so much ill will and racism to Balkan mix.

"What is surprising is that they are allowed to name streets and burn flags/cars etc without any intervention from their own?"

Because it is obviously more than a small fraction who support this. If only a small fraction was so radical, the other Croats and authorities would be cleaning up the graffiti to at least some degree, apologize for it or do more to prevent and stop the perpetrators. The numbers who actively support or at least silently support it must be larger than you think. Otherwise it doesn't make sense for all this to be happening so frequently with not the least (even meek, but genuine) active opposition.

Nadeem, the Bosniaks really did take the most abuse in the war, and I’m sorry for that. In a way, I think what the Croats did was worse, at least the Serbs didn’t turn on those they claimed were “friends”.

Bganon, I highly recommend to everyone here to read some of Tudjman’s books, many are available in English. Its very scary stuff for anyone who lived through WWII, or heard the stories first hand.

Tudjman and Milosevic clearly worked together to keep one another in power through inciting fear in their respective populations so that they could try to carve Bosnia between them. They needed each other.

Matthew,in light of your statement about Croats brutally attacking their Bosniak "allies" I feel you should know that I'm glad that there're some Croats who I believe are being penalized for oppressing Bosniaks.

Oh you mean like the Bosnian Muslim refugees who came to Boston in 1993 and were interviewed by David Mladinov who was working for a Jewish center.

He says that the refugees he interviewed, together with the Croats, ethnically cleansed and killed Serbs in Capljina and the surrounding areas, but felt not a shred of remorse for that. However, he states they were very bitter about the Croats turning on them and putting them in the concentration camps where they had previously both (Muslims and Croats) abused and killed Serbs.

So you feel sorry for the murderous ethnic cleanser Muslims who killed along with the Croats only to have a fall out with those Croats?

I say they received the punishment they deserved if they had been abusing Serbs. And many of them had.

You forget also the Muslim dominated places of Bosnia, such as Zenica, where the Muslim got the upper hand and turned on Croats after they'd both abused and cleansed the Serbs together.

The Muslims' crimes in Bosnia are VASTLY, VASTLY understated and hidden by the mainstream media.

The Muslims were keeping Serbs in tunnels in and around Sarajevo, killing and decapitating Serbs around the Kazani gorge - where they threw the remains, keeping Serbs in grain silos, which they started emptying promptly, if not before the war started.

Ida,

Bosniak losses were a higher percentage then their per capita, Serb losses were roughly per capita, and Croatian losses were well under their per capita percentage of the population.

Ida, I base a lot of my opinions on what I saw on the ground in Bosnia, Croatia & Serbia and from actually talking to people on all sides in the war who fought there.

What do you base your opinions on? And what's so wrong about an apology?

Of course they name streets after Nazis, because Croats were never punished for their brutal war crimes, and were in fact rewarded. They are proud of their Ustashe past, and this here is the proof.
Are their friends in the Brussels and Washington listening?? Have they woken up to the truth yet, that they were supporting the wrong side through all these wars?? The truth will come out, even though CNN will not report this I am sure.

Is there any wonder why they are hated so much... they are even hated by moderate Croats from Croatia. Something more should have been done to deal with this small fraction of Croats that provide so much ill will and racism to Balkan mix.

Felt the need to point out that a fraction of croats are nazis. You have people like this in every race and color. What is surprising is that they are allowed to name streets and burn flags/cars etc without any intervention from their own?

Oh you mean like the Bosnian Muslim refugees who came to Boston in 1993 and were interviewed by David Mladinov who was working for a Jewish center.

He says that the refugees he interviewed, together with the Croats, ethnically cleansed and killed Serbs in Capljina and the surrounding areas, but felt not a shred of remorse for that. However, he states they were very bitter about the Croats turning on them and putting them in the concentration camps where they had previously both (Muslims and Croats) abused and killed Serbs.

So you feel sorry for the murderous ethnic cleanser Muslims who killed along with the Croats only to have a fall out with those Croats?

I say they received the punishment they deserved if they had been abusing Serbs. And many of them had.

You forget also the Muslim dominated places of Bosnia, such as Zenica, where the Muslim got the upper hand and turned on Croats after they'd both abused and cleansed the Serbs together.

The Muslims' crimes in Bosnia are VASTLY, VASTLY understated and hidden by the mainstream media.

The Muslims were keeping Serbs in tunnels in and around Sarajevo, killing and decapitating Serbs around the Kazani gorge - where they threw the remains, keeping Serbs in grain silos, which they started emptying promptly, if not before the war started.

I’ve been to Mostar. Even nearly 10 years after Croatian forces brutally attacked their “allies” the Bosniaks, many parts of the city were in complete ruin. It was the worst destruction I saw in all of the Balkans during my travels.

It shocks the conscious that some Croatians still glorify the Ustashe. It was the revival of the symbols of the Ustashe State that put such great fear and apprehension into the hearts of the average Serb who survived (or whose parents survived) the terrible holocaust of WWII.

Is it any wonder that Serbians picked up a gun and vowed “Never Again” and protected their homes by any means necessary? While both Milosevic and Tudjman abused this fear in order to carry out their own evil agendas, the sad reality is anywhere the Serbs did not fight and win, they are no more.

The Ustashe dream of a Serb free Croatia has been realized, yet for some reason, the Croatian government celebrates this fact as a national holiday. To this day, Krajina is covered in Ustashe and Nazi graffiti on all the burned out homes and churches, a silent reminder to Serbs not to return to the homes of their ancestors.

If there is to be lasting peace, these symbols of genocide and oppression must be outlawed. Fear should not be allowed to be utilized by evil men with evil intentions. Far too much blood has been shed by a people that all speak the same language, a people who are in reality all brothers.

Matthew I could not have written it better myself.

Croats are happy to talk about how quick the Serbs were to take to arms but the truth is that anybody would have rejected cooperation with the Croatian government given past history.

For some Serbs this really was the second coming of the Ustasa and worse still Tudjman knew they would feel this way. That is the kind of crime that does not have a name at the Hague.

You are also right about Mostar - the town that is forgotten compared to Sarajevo, the town that has been rebuilt.

And Mostar makes Sarajevo look like a haven of multiethnic tolerance as well...

"What is surprising is that they are allowed to name streets and burn flags/cars etc without any intervention from their own?"

Because it is obviously more than a small fraction who support this. If only a small fraction was so radical, the other Croats and authorities would be cleaning up the graffiti to at least some degree, apologize for it or do more to prevent and stop the perpetrators. The numbers who actively support or at least silently support it must be larger than you think. Otherwise it doesn't make sense for all this to be happening so frequently with not the least (even meek, but genuine) active opposition.

Matthew,in light of your statement about Croats brutally attacking their Bosniak "allies" I feel you should know that I'm glad that there're some Croats who I believe are being penalized for oppressing Bosniaks.

Nadeem, the Bosniaks really did take the most abuse in the war, and I’m sorry for that. In a way, I think what the Croats did was worse, at least the Serbs didn’t turn on those they claimed were “friends”.

Bganon, I highly recommend to everyone here to read some of Tudjman’s books, many are available in English. Its very scary stuff for anyone who lived through WWII, or heard the stories first hand.

Tudjman and Milosevic clearly worked together to keep one another in power through inciting fear in their respective populations so that they could try to carve Bosnia between them. They needed each other.

Ida,

Bosniak losses were a higher percentage then their per capita, Serb losses were roughly per capita, and Croatian losses were well under their per capita percentage of the population.

Ida, I base a lot of my opinions on what I saw on the ground in Bosnia, Croatia & Serbia and from actually talking to people on all sides in the war who fought there.

What do you base your opinions on? And what's so wrong about an apology?