Poll: 61 percent support EU entry

yes we remember - but we also remember the terrible 10 years before that. We need to remember all and not just the bits that suit your political point.

thats very nice. i wonder if the people who were polled were alive 10 years ago when every country in this union that they want to join so badly was dropping hell on this country from the skies all in the name of human rites... oh well mabey im the only one who remembers this

ya and that had absolutly nothing to do with those same nations, the nations who turn a blind eye to the non serb war criminals, the ones who isolated us. you look at the whole picture not just the unwavering pro western point of view you have... eu does not equal prosperity, take a look at romania now

EU membership would not do Serbia any good. The EU is an institution designed for Germany, France, and England to dominate Europe again. They want to exploit Serbian workers and natural resources and even cut up Serbian territory and make fake states like Kosovo and Vojvodina. Watch... in a few years these same EU nations will want "independent Vojvodina" (Tadić should end their autonomy now but that is another issue).

Serbia's real allies are Russia, Belarus and Ukraine (not the Yushchenko camp but the patriotic Party of Regions). Serbia should join the Union of Russia and Belarus (eventually turn it into a Slavic Union) and promote good relations with other Soviet states and emerging economies such as China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc.

supportserbia said it perfectly... Romaina and Bulgaria gain nothing by being in the eu but visa free travel to other eu states it's the eu who only benefits from them

Instead of using Romania as an example of what the EU can do for us why not use Ireland, Austria, Slovenia, Lithuania, Portugal, etc. The youth of Serbia are tired of this old school mentatlity and want to move forward...
(Dewey, 21 January 2009 22:09)

How are you intending to move forward? By getting in bed with the same people who murdered you, made your victims the villains and continue to persecute you in every way they can?

Is this how you respect and honour the people who died for your defence? They died for you defending your very existance. Now you want to get in bed with people who have killed them.

With attitued like yours Serbia is in deep trouble. Can't you see that EU is only going to rape Serbia? If they wanted anything good for Serbia they would not have turned of the great propaganda machine and made the Serbs into the bad guys.

Are you also prepared to give up on Kosovo to get into this club?

Shame on you.

Instead of using Romania as an example of what the EU can do for us why not use Ireland, Austria, Slovenia, Lithuania, Portugal, etc. The youth of Serbia are tired of this old school mentatlity and want to move forward...

Peggy

I think you are overreacting. It was predominantly the US who bombed Serbia, I don't know why these extreme accusations against the EU. The EU is an economic organization and had little to do with the US bombardment of Serbia. Regarding Kosovo, I understand your point, but there are EU states who are against recognition too.

nick d

Romania and Bulgaria are still new to the EU, so of course they are the poorest and least developed countries. They are, however, both developing much faster than Serbia are because of EU.

SupportSerbia

You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Why do you think that every single European ex-Eastern Bloc state (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania), of which many are also Slavic, are now a part of the EU and NATO? If you'd lived in a Warsaw Pact country during those times, you wouldn't be saying this.

During Communist times, Yugoslavia was by far the richest and most developed Communist state precisely because it didn't belong within the Soviet sphere of influence. Now, most ex-Yugoslav states (apart from Slovenia and Croatia, both pro-Western) are poorer than the countries above.

And why should being a part of the West mean you have no relations with the emerging economies of Asia, Africa and South America? You can have them both these days.

The minority of dissilusioned Serb youth are mainly centered around tadic's stronghold of Belgrade...The same minority youth want to taste the honey being offered by WEU, unfortunately, the honey runs out when you enter EU. Afterwhich and by that time, your government collaborating with the west will try to rape you like the government of 1943 - yes I'm british and i know balkan history better than most serbs, especially the colaborators...you have no idea what plans are for Serbia. can't you see when you look at the level of countries around that are or will join in the future.

from a former international in the region...Serbs put up your heads and tell EU to sod off...WEU is running out of money.

Roman Empire take 2!

to peter

All of the countries you mention that are growing faster are in a much better position to begin with they were not sanctioned for years like Serbia was. And you mention that they had little to do with bombing... If they had anything to do with it whatsoever it's enough for me not to trust them...

Mabey if we weren't under all of these sancions like they were we would be in the same position as them.. The fact is we were sancioned because we would not give in to their unacceptable demands and sell out our people to terrorists. Your blind pro western point of view is very obvious, you seem like a person that would sell their soul to the eu for a chance to drive a better car....

for nick d:

Romania recorded the highest economic growth (7.8%) in the European Union in 2008 according to the European Commission.

Peter Sudyka, what you say is true, but in the SFRY Croatia and in particularly Slovenia were more well off than the other republics. Also a major factor in these republics not economically performing as well as you would expect is the wars and sanctions on the 1990s.

PJD

You have a god point with the sanctions, that is also true.

nick d

I don't have a blindly pro-Western view, there are many problems under this system too, but it is definitely a hundred times better than anything to do with Russia or China.

Also, I believe if the JNA would focus its energy on the KLA terrorists and not Kosovo citizens, they would not have attracted the US's interest.

Peter,

I agree with you. The EU is a successful organization which is helping its Member States to achieve economic well-being.

It amazes me that many Serbs would prefer their country to join the russia-belarus union instead of the EU.
Truely amazing!

I would rather go with Russia because I know they would never bomb us or carve up our territory.... Regardless of our points of view it is not in our best interests to be so divided because that is what our enemies want.. It only hurts Serbia

Also, I believe if the JNA would focus its energy on the KLA terrorists and not Kosovo citizens, they would not have attracted the US's interest.
(Peter Sudyka, 22 January 2009 19:17)

Peter, you bought into all that "Racak Massacre" propaganda, didn't you?
The civilians flee from wars whether they are targeted or not but when NATO dropped all the bombs they had a mass exhodus from there. It wasn't the Serbs who butchered them. It's reverse. 200,000 Serbs were expelled from Kosovo and many were murdered and continue to be murdered there.
Albanians targeted the Serb civilians. Organ harvesting ring any bells?
Please don't accuse Serbs of atrocities when it was the other way around.

thats very nice. i wonder if the people who were polled were alive 10 years ago when every country in this union that they want to join so badly was dropping hell on this country from the skies all in the name of human rites... oh well mabey im the only one who remembers this

ya and that had absolutly nothing to do with those same nations, the nations who turn a blind eye to the non serb war criminals, the ones who isolated us. you look at the whole picture not just the unwavering pro western point of view you have... eu does not equal prosperity, take a look at romania now

EU membership would not do Serbia any good. The EU is an institution designed for Germany, France, and England to dominate Europe again. They want to exploit Serbian workers and natural resources and even cut up Serbian territory and make fake states like Kosovo and Vojvodina. Watch... in a few years these same EU nations will want "independent Vojvodina" (Tadić should end their autonomy now but that is another issue).

Serbia's real allies are Russia, Belarus and Ukraine (not the Yushchenko camp but the patriotic Party of Regions). Serbia should join the Union of Russia and Belarus (eventually turn it into a Slavic Union) and promote good relations with other Soviet states and emerging economies such as China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc.

yes we remember - but we also remember the terrible 10 years before that. We need to remember all and not just the bits that suit your political point.

Instead of using Romania as an example of what the EU can do for us why not use Ireland, Austria, Slovenia, Lithuania, Portugal, etc. The youth of Serbia are tired of this old school mentatlity and want to move forward...
(Dewey, 21 January 2009 22:09)

How are you intending to move forward? By getting in bed with the same people who murdered you, made your victims the villains and continue to persecute you in every way they can?

Is this how you respect and honour the people who died for your defence? They died for you defending your very existance. Now you want to get in bed with people who have killed them.

With attitued like yours Serbia is in deep trouble. Can't you see that EU is only going to rape Serbia? If they wanted anything good for Serbia they would not have turned of the great propaganda machine and made the Serbs into the bad guys.

Are you also prepared to give up on Kosovo to get into this club?

Shame on you.

for nick d:

Romania recorded the highest economic growth (7.8%) in the European Union in 2008 according to the European Commission.

supportserbia said it perfectly... Romaina and Bulgaria gain nothing by being in the eu but visa free travel to other eu states it's the eu who only benefits from them

Instead of using Romania as an example of what the EU can do for us why not use Ireland, Austria, Slovenia, Lithuania, Portugal, etc. The youth of Serbia are tired of this old school mentatlity and want to move forward...

The minority of dissilusioned Serb youth are mainly centered around tadic's stronghold of Belgrade...The same minority youth want to taste the honey being offered by WEU, unfortunately, the honey runs out when you enter EU. Afterwhich and by that time, your government collaborating with the west will try to rape you like the government of 1943 - yes I'm british and i know balkan history better than most serbs, especially the colaborators...you have no idea what plans are for Serbia. can't you see when you look at the level of countries around that are or will join in the future.

from a former international in the region...Serbs put up your heads and tell EU to sod off...WEU is running out of money.

Roman Empire take 2!

to peter

All of the countries you mention that are growing faster are in a much better position to begin with they were not sanctioned for years like Serbia was. And you mention that they had little to do with bombing... If they had anything to do with it whatsoever it's enough for me not to trust them...

Mabey if we weren't under all of these sancions like they were we would be in the same position as them.. The fact is we were sancioned because we would not give in to their unacceptable demands and sell out our people to terrorists. Your blind pro western point of view is very obvious, you seem like a person that would sell their soul to the eu for a chance to drive a better car....

I would rather go with Russia because I know they would never bomb us or carve up our territory.... Regardless of our points of view it is not in our best interests to be so divided because that is what our enemies want.. It only hurts Serbia

Peggy

I think you are overreacting. It was predominantly the US who bombed Serbia, I don't know why these extreme accusations against the EU. The EU is an economic organization and had little to do with the US bombardment of Serbia. Regarding Kosovo, I understand your point, but there are EU states who are against recognition too.

nick d

Romania and Bulgaria are still new to the EU, so of course they are the poorest and least developed countries. They are, however, both developing much faster than Serbia are because of EU.

SupportSerbia

You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Why do you think that every single European ex-Eastern Bloc state (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania), of which many are also Slavic, are now a part of the EU and NATO? If you'd lived in a Warsaw Pact country during those times, you wouldn't be saying this.

During Communist times, Yugoslavia was by far the richest and most developed Communist state precisely because it didn't belong within the Soviet sphere of influence. Now, most ex-Yugoslav states (apart from Slovenia and Croatia, both pro-Western) are poorer than the countries above.

And why should being a part of the West mean you have no relations with the emerging economies of Asia, Africa and South America? You can have them both these days.

PJD

You have a god point with the sanctions, that is also true.

nick d

I don't have a blindly pro-Western view, there are many problems under this system too, but it is definitely a hundred times better than anything to do with Russia or China.

Also, I believe if the JNA would focus its energy on the KLA terrorists and not Kosovo citizens, they would not have attracted the US's interest.

Peter,

I agree with you. The EU is a successful organization which is helping its Member States to achieve economic well-being.

It amazes me that many Serbs would prefer their country to join the russia-belarus union instead of the EU.
Truely amazing!

Peter Sudyka, what you say is true, but in the SFRY Croatia and in particularly Slovenia were more well off than the other republics. Also a major factor in these republics not economically performing as well as you would expect is the wars and sanctions on the 1990s.

Also, I believe if the JNA would focus its energy on the KLA terrorists and not Kosovo citizens, they would not have attracted the US's interest.
(Peter Sudyka, 22 January 2009 19:17)

Peter, you bought into all that "Racak Massacre" propaganda, didn't you?
The civilians flee from wars whether they are targeted or not but when NATO dropped all the bombs they had a mass exhodus from there. It wasn't the Serbs who butchered them. It's reverse. 200,000 Serbs were expelled from Kosovo and many were murdered and continue to be murdered there.
Albanians targeted the Serb civilians. Organ harvesting ring any bells?
Please don't accuse Serbs of atrocities when it was the other way around.