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Friday, 16.01.2009.

15:39

Panama recognizes Kosovo

Panamanian Foreign Minister Samuel Luis Navarro has informed Priština that his country has recognized Kosovo.

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tim

pre 15 godina

How many of those 54 countries cannot say no, to what the USA wants? How many of them are victims to American economic terrorism. Do you think Panama is not dependent upon loans and trade with the USA I think they are, and their vote is coerced.

raso

pre 15 godina

so north-columbia is acknowledging south-serbia!

that alone would be funny enough, wouldn´t there be announcment of a second second wave ...

was it that or is a third second wave to come ?

milan

pre 15 godina

How do the "Kosovars" feel knowing that most of the states that recognize this narco-terrorist/ethnically cleansed hamlet have done it under extreme pressure/bribery? Shameful.

Armend

pre 15 godina

Dear friends, I am afraid we are going to have these "recognize" conversations very often, since even Spain, Greece, Slovakia and Romania will recognize soon the independence of Kosova. I am just thinking what will you invent to say at those days!!!

Anyway, thanks Panama

Milan T.O.

pre 15 godina

To "US KOSOVAR"

I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but i seriously think you should brush up on your knowledge when it comes to UN membership.

It does not matter if every single country in the world recognizes the "republic of kosovo", as long as russia is against it, it can use its veto to hinder any membership talks since it is a permament security council member.

US KOSOVAR

pre 15 godina

(lowe,
I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.

Im sorry but thats the way UN works and the law was written.


Thank You LMN ||

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

"to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

(US KOSOVAR, 18 January 2009 02:21)"

I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.
(lowe, 18 January 2009 10:47)


So true lowe. Any country that is a permanent member of the UN Security Council can veto whatever and whenever they want. Soooo, with Russia and China both on the UNSC I seriously doubt KosovO, without the consent of Serbia, will ever become a member of the United Nations and you can take that to the bank, tsk tsk.

And this one caught my eye as well...

I mentioned only Albania, since they are our blood-brothers, but there are so many other countries who act in our favor and will never let Serbia enter NATO nor EU before Kosova.

Hmmm...have all of the EU members recognized KosovO? Hmmm...have all of the NATO members recognized KosovO? Until Serbia says "go ahead, have your independence" countries like Spain and Greece (original EU members mind you) will continue to block KosovO's entrance into either organization. My country may try it's ridiculous best to get you into NATO, but they have no say whatsoever in who joins the EU. The US is not the end all, be all in the world. We are not "kingmakers" and we do not dictate how the world should think no matter how hard we may try. The need, by my govt, to further American interests in the last 15 years, even at the detriment of others, has gotten way out of control in every possible way. The founding fathers of my country NEVER envisaged the USA becoming the world's policeman or, depending on how one looks at it, the world's scourge. No where in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence does it say we can do whatever we want, whenever we want and however we want. The breaking of international law in regards to KosovO is so astoundingly arrogant it's almost unbelieveable.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

(US KOSOVAR, 18 January 2009 02:21)"

I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.

US KOSOVAR

pre 15 godina

to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

To CG and others Serbians,
what you all saying that every country that recognizes Kosovo its a US puppet or they been forced to do so, or maybe you just dont ignore the reality,

WAKE UP WITH NEW KSF( Kosovo Security Forces )to you maybe its not a real army its just security thats the truth once the NATO its out guess what, KSF are taking over and Belgrade knows all this including the Serbian people,

But i agree w.Serbians on 1 thing they dont give up anything without a fight.

God Bless Panama

Funcakes

pre 15 godina

Not only is Panama important because of it's regional clout, but it's also important because this was a country that voted in favor of the ICJ resolution and yet it recognized.

These were supposed to be the "tough cookies", the ones who'd take a while to recognize...and well, even those tough cookies are doing it now.

doodah

pre 15 godina

Isn't it ironic that supposedly the US has so many puppets but the world only knows of the one that Russia has. The one that was recently bought for 20 cents on the dollar.

smile

pre 15 godina

it's telling, really and highly amusing even that when another sad american dependency recognizes the abomination the first thought on our albanian friends mind is jeremic!
which means that they must think he's doing a hell of a good job for serbia, otherwise why would the little man bug them so much :)
anyway i dont think he is and i cant wait to see the end of this government.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

You (you = Serbs) always argue that a non-independent country cannot enter the UN, and thus you say that Panama is not an independent and sovereign country! Well, guess what - Panama is in the UN! Each UN country (be it big or small) that recognizes us, is a huge victory for Kosova.

Thanx Panama.

Greets from Prishtina!

AO KS

pre 15 godina

CG, remember that Albania will soon become a NATO country, thus its veto will be used against Serbia as well :). I mentioned only Albania, since they are our blood-brothers, but there are so many other countries who act in our favor and will never let Serbia enter NATO nor EU before Kosova.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

yes, "SupportSerbia", that´s right, a number of voices have been heard to reconsider the socalled "recognition" as a reversible mistake in case the ICJ rules in favor of the only legitimate sovereign.

as for Panama, I wonder why they have not "recognized" this stillborn puppet entity right from the start, since after the kidnapping of Noriega, Panama is an occupied nation...without real and independent authorities...

may our desperate friends sing and clap, it doesn´t mean a lot, actually.

but in their desperation they even say that Panama "has a clout in the region"... to give this event of minor relevance some high level importance...

CG

pre 15 godina

Guys,it is not important if Micronesia or Grenada or some other island that will be brushed away by the map in some years anyway (because of global warming)recognizes Kosovo,the most important thing is that Russian and Chinese vetoes are secured at the UN and that Spain,Slovak and Romanian vetoes are secured for the EU and NATO and that they will not succumb to any pressure.
Thats what counts everything other is show.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"The U.S. handed over the canal to the Panamanian government sometime during the Carter presidency. The military bases that guarded it, as well.
(Amer, 16 January 2009 22:19)"

Amer,

Lets set the record straight. The Treaties of Torrijos-Carter may on the surface return the canal to Panama. But it gives the US the PERPETUAL and INCONTESTABLE right to "defend" the canal -- yes, it is the US military and not the Panamanians that have the right of defence there. So how true is Panama's sovereignty over the canal?

Nelli

pre 15 godina

Don't worry Prishtina at all, by the time the ICJ makes its' formal report there will be at least 100 countries that have recognized my golden Kosova as sovereign STATE. Turkish government lobbying in arab countries, that's cool. Croatia's ambassador in Prishtina announced that his country will lobby in south America. On behalf of Kosova thank you very very much Hrvatska. "A friend in need is a friend indeed".

Gojko

pre 15 godina

I dislike saying a country made another country recognize Kosovo.....
But there is so much truth in this with Panama. They will never forget the atrocities the USA caused in their country and like lowe mentioned, they will never get their property back. They are truly a colony of the USA and I am also surprised they did not recognized earlier. Maybe the USA was saving this recognition to get the hopes up for Albanians.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I cannot believe i was censored again -- read my mind...

how-ever, my message -- congratulations to all the people of kosovo/a, there is something wonderful that comes with each and every recognition, and we need to appreciate it, and enjoy it. with each recognition brings hope for the future, and respect for independence and democracy.

of course there is a long way to go and we need to remain critical and self-critical, but remember to keep your eyes on the prize.

it is so hard to stay above the fray, almost impossible. after all, i am only human, as are we all. but celebrate the victories. thank you to all of our friends and allies, and let's keep the ball rolling.

roberto

Denis

pre 15 godina

So when countries start to revoke recognitions is Panama just going to claim it was a miscommunication? Oh dear.
(ZK, 16 January 2009 16:59)

For a long time Serbia undermined the capability of Albanians to govern themselves. Out of an estimated $26.2 billion, that Serbia borrowed from the west, only some $1.1 billion went to Kosovo (if that), anything there then was wiped out during the war including thousands of houses, factories and institutions. One has only to look at Kosovo's road system v.s the Serbian one, to recognize the inferior care that Serbia has shown for the region. But yet, you were quick to claim Kosovo as the birthplace of Serbian nationalism, and upon that region's poverty and unlivable conditions, to celebrate and glorify your statehood.

Of course, in this poverty and after the destruction of the war and status issues, Kosovo will have a tough time building a state and modern institutions.

SupportSerbia

pre 15 godina

LOL, is this the beginning of the dreaded "second wave" that we've been hearing about for almost a year now? Not likely. We will have to wait another month or two for another U.S. cilent state to cough up recogition. My bet is Palau is up next.

The good news is that this recognition means nothing. Panama only exists because Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal in Meso America so he engineered their independence from Colombia. Sound familiar?

Costa Rica, which recognizes China instead of Taiwan separatists (unlike Panama), has said it regrets hastily recognizing the so-called independence of Kosovo and Metohija. Costa Rica thought they were going to be first in a long line of recognizers. They were horribly wrong. Kosovo and Metohija is recognized by less than 25% of the world. This has embarrassed the authorities in Costa Rica and they will derecognize when the ICJ rules in favor of Serbia.

Amer

pre 15 godina

No, more likely Panama had to submit to this US demand if it hopes to get back the Panama canal in the future.
(lowe, 16 January 2009 17:03)

The U.S. handed over the canal to the Panamanian government sometime during the Carter presidency. The military bases that guarded it, as well.

Michael John

pre 15 godina

Well, I guess the Ambassador to Serbia from Panama is about to leave cold and miserable Belgrade for the fresh air and warm sunshine of the pristine beaches of Panama. Bon Voyage Mr. Ambassador!

Newborn

pre 15 godina

Panama should have been among the first 20 to recognize, considering that it is a US creation/colony.
(Lazar, 16 January 2009 16:25)

Lazo,Thanks god,All this World is colony of the United States!
What would the world be without USA and EU.
All peoples have the right to self-determination.
Happy independence New-Born!
Thank you Panama!

Michael

pre 15 godina

Yawn...who cares!

Just another occupied US nation recognizing another occupied US nation. Perhaps Noriega will accept Kosovo independence in exchange for his freedom/release.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Hey, after EULEX overrode Pristina's demands of sovereignty over the Serb areas, as well as Thaci's wish to cut economic ties to Serbia Proper, not to mention nothing has been done to dissolve the Serb Assembly in Mitrovica, the Albanians deserve a symbolic bone to be thrown at them every so often. If only to keep the game interesting. But unless Panama has a lot of clout, I doubt this will boost Kosovo's international standing any more than it did when Micronesia recognized. Congrats anyway.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"Bingo!
Was it something that Jeremic said?
(miri, 16 January 2009 15:46)"

No, more likely Panama had to submit to this US demand if it hopes to get back the Panama canal in the future.

Anton

pre 15 godina

Thanks Panama , they voted in favour to Serbia in ICJ voting , and now they are recognizing the Republic of Kosova. Many countries are waiting to recognize Kosova so I am happy that the starting of year 2009 is good

Alban

pre 15 godina

Great news for Kosovars. A clever move by Panama. The list apparently will be longer now with arab countries and more american countries to move swiftly into recognizing Kosova. Cheers and hopefully Serbia will follow sooner rather than too late.

ZK

pre 15 godina

Hyseni was informed that a verbal note of recognition of Kosovo would be conveyed to Kosovo’s charge d’affaires in the U.S., Avni Spahiu.
--
A verbal note? Is that where we are with recognitions these days? Verbal recognitions? Ha ha, what a joke!

So when countries start to revoke recognitions is Panama just going to claim it was a miscommunication? Oh dear.

PRN

pre 15 godina

Nr= 54...

Opppsss...why didn't Panama wait for ICJ ruling?

Since UN gave greeen light the ICJ for a ruling, the recognition of Kosovo independence is going at a higher speed. This was not was Mr. Jeremic promissed.

There might be some technical problems at the New York UN HQ and Mr. Jeremic should go back at the UN HQ and see the wording, because it may appear that the approved resolution may say "...the faster the rate of Kosovo recognition the easier is for ICJ to come to a conclusion."



Peace to all,


P.S.Is Mr. Jermic still on a government payroll???

PRN

pre 15 godina

Nr= 54...

Opppsss...why didn't Panama wait for ICJ ruling?

Since UN gave greeen light the ICJ for a ruling, the recognition of Kosovo independence is going at a higher speed. This was not was Mr. Jeremic promissed.

There might be some technical problems at the New York UN HQ and Mr. Jeremic should go back at the UN HQ and see the wording, because it may appear that the approved resolution may say "...the faster the rate of Kosovo recognition the easier is for ICJ to come to a conclusion."



Peace to all,


P.S.Is Mr. Jermic still on a government payroll???

Alban

pre 15 godina

Great news for Kosovars. A clever move by Panama. The list apparently will be longer now with arab countries and more american countries to move swiftly into recognizing Kosova. Cheers and hopefully Serbia will follow sooner rather than too late.

Anton

pre 15 godina

Thanks Panama , they voted in favour to Serbia in ICJ voting , and now they are recognizing the Republic of Kosova. Many countries are waiting to recognize Kosova so I am happy that the starting of year 2009 is good

Newborn

pre 15 godina

Panama should have been among the first 20 to recognize, considering that it is a US creation/colony.
(Lazar, 16 January 2009 16:25)

Lazo,Thanks god,All this World is colony of the United States!
What would the world be without USA and EU.
All peoples have the right to self-determination.
Happy independence New-Born!
Thank you Panama!

Mike

pre 15 godina

Hey, after EULEX overrode Pristina's demands of sovereignty over the Serb areas, as well as Thaci's wish to cut economic ties to Serbia Proper, not to mention nothing has been done to dissolve the Serb Assembly in Mitrovica, the Albanians deserve a symbolic bone to be thrown at them every so often. If only to keep the game interesting. But unless Panama has a lot of clout, I doubt this will boost Kosovo's international standing any more than it did when Micronesia recognized. Congrats anyway.

Michael

pre 15 godina

Yawn...who cares!

Just another occupied US nation recognizing another occupied US nation. Perhaps Noriega will accept Kosovo independence in exchange for his freedom/release.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"Bingo!
Was it something that Jeremic said?
(miri, 16 January 2009 15:46)"

No, more likely Panama had to submit to this US demand if it hopes to get back the Panama canal in the future.

Michael John

pre 15 godina

Well, I guess the Ambassador to Serbia from Panama is about to leave cold and miserable Belgrade for the fresh air and warm sunshine of the pristine beaches of Panama. Bon Voyage Mr. Ambassador!

Amer

pre 15 godina

No, more likely Panama had to submit to this US demand if it hopes to get back the Panama canal in the future.
(lowe, 16 January 2009 17:03)

The U.S. handed over the canal to the Panamanian government sometime during the Carter presidency. The military bases that guarded it, as well.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

CG, remember that Albania will soon become a NATO country, thus its veto will be used against Serbia as well :). I mentioned only Albania, since they are our blood-brothers, but there are so many other countries who act in our favor and will never let Serbia enter NATO nor EU before Kosova.

SupportSerbia

pre 15 godina

LOL, is this the beginning of the dreaded "second wave" that we've been hearing about for almost a year now? Not likely. We will have to wait another month or two for another U.S. cilent state to cough up recogition. My bet is Palau is up next.

The good news is that this recognition means nothing. Panama only exists because Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal in Meso America so he engineered their independence from Colombia. Sound familiar?

Costa Rica, which recognizes China instead of Taiwan separatists (unlike Panama), has said it regrets hastily recognizing the so-called independence of Kosovo and Metohija. Costa Rica thought they were going to be first in a long line of recognizers. They were horribly wrong. Kosovo and Metohija is recognized by less than 25% of the world. This has embarrassed the authorities in Costa Rica and they will derecognize when the ICJ rules in favor of Serbia.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

You (you = Serbs) always argue that a non-independent country cannot enter the UN, and thus you say that Panama is not an independent and sovereign country! Well, guess what - Panama is in the UN! Each UN country (be it big or small) that recognizes us, is a huge victory for Kosova.

Thanx Panama.

Greets from Prishtina!

ZK

pre 15 godina

Hyseni was informed that a verbal note of recognition of Kosovo would be conveyed to Kosovo’s charge d’affaires in the U.S., Avni Spahiu.
--
A verbal note? Is that where we are with recognitions these days? Verbal recognitions? Ha ha, what a joke!

So when countries start to revoke recognitions is Panama just going to claim it was a miscommunication? Oh dear.

Denis

pre 15 godina

So when countries start to revoke recognitions is Panama just going to claim it was a miscommunication? Oh dear.
(ZK, 16 January 2009 16:59)

For a long time Serbia undermined the capability of Albanians to govern themselves. Out of an estimated $26.2 billion, that Serbia borrowed from the west, only some $1.1 billion went to Kosovo (if that), anything there then was wiped out during the war including thousands of houses, factories and institutions. One has only to look at Kosovo's road system v.s the Serbian one, to recognize the inferior care that Serbia has shown for the region. But yet, you were quick to claim Kosovo as the birthplace of Serbian nationalism, and upon that region's poverty and unlivable conditions, to celebrate and glorify your statehood.

Of course, in this poverty and after the destruction of the war and status issues, Kosovo will have a tough time building a state and modern institutions.

Nelli

pre 15 godina

Don't worry Prishtina at all, by the time the ICJ makes its' formal report there will be at least 100 countries that have recognized my golden Kosova as sovereign STATE. Turkish government lobbying in arab countries, that's cool. Croatia's ambassador in Prishtina announced that his country will lobby in south America. On behalf of Kosova thank you very very much Hrvatska. "A friend in need is a friend indeed".

Funcakes

pre 15 godina

Not only is Panama important because of it's regional clout, but it's also important because this was a country that voted in favor of the ICJ resolution and yet it recognized.

These were supposed to be the "tough cookies", the ones who'd take a while to recognize...and well, even those tough cookies are doing it now.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I cannot believe i was censored again -- read my mind...

how-ever, my message -- congratulations to all the people of kosovo/a, there is something wonderful that comes with each and every recognition, and we need to appreciate it, and enjoy it. with each recognition brings hope for the future, and respect for independence and democracy.

of course there is a long way to go and we need to remain critical and self-critical, but remember to keep your eyes on the prize.

it is so hard to stay above the fray, almost impossible. after all, i am only human, as are we all. but celebrate the victories. thank you to all of our friends and allies, and let's keep the ball rolling.

roberto

Gojko

pre 15 godina

I dislike saying a country made another country recognize Kosovo.....
But there is so much truth in this with Panama. They will never forget the atrocities the USA caused in their country and like lowe mentioned, they will never get their property back. They are truly a colony of the USA and I am also surprised they did not recognized earlier. Maybe the USA was saving this recognition to get the hopes up for Albanians.

smile

pre 15 godina

it's telling, really and highly amusing even that when another sad american dependency recognizes the abomination the first thought on our albanian friends mind is jeremic!
which means that they must think he's doing a hell of a good job for serbia, otherwise why would the little man bug them so much :)
anyway i dont think he is and i cant wait to see the end of this government.

US KOSOVAR

pre 15 godina

to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

To CG and others Serbians,
what you all saying that every country that recognizes Kosovo its a US puppet or they been forced to do so, or maybe you just dont ignore the reality,

WAKE UP WITH NEW KSF( Kosovo Security Forces )to you maybe its not a real army its just security thats the truth once the NATO its out guess what, KSF are taking over and Belgrade knows all this including the Serbian people,

But i agree w.Serbians on 1 thing they dont give up anything without a fight.

God Bless Panama

CG

pre 15 godina

Guys,it is not important if Micronesia or Grenada or some other island that will be brushed away by the map in some years anyway (because of global warming)recognizes Kosovo,the most important thing is that Russian and Chinese vetoes are secured at the UN and that Spain,Slovak and Romanian vetoes are secured for the EU and NATO and that they will not succumb to any pressure.
Thats what counts everything other is show.

doodah

pre 15 godina

Isn't it ironic that supposedly the US has so many puppets but the world only knows of the one that Russia has. The one that was recently bought for 20 cents on the dollar.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"The U.S. handed over the canal to the Panamanian government sometime during the Carter presidency. The military bases that guarded it, as well.
(Amer, 16 January 2009 22:19)"

Amer,

Lets set the record straight. The Treaties of Torrijos-Carter may on the surface return the canal to Panama. But it gives the US the PERPETUAL and INCONTESTABLE right to "defend" the canal -- yes, it is the US military and not the Panamanians that have the right of defence there. So how true is Panama's sovereignty over the canal?

Jovan

pre 15 godina

yes, "SupportSerbia", that´s right, a number of voices have been heard to reconsider the socalled "recognition" as a reversible mistake in case the ICJ rules in favor of the only legitimate sovereign.

as for Panama, I wonder why they have not "recognized" this stillborn puppet entity right from the start, since after the kidnapping of Noriega, Panama is an occupied nation...without real and independent authorities...

may our desperate friends sing and clap, it doesn´t mean a lot, actually.

but in their desperation they even say that Panama "has a clout in the region"... to give this event of minor relevance some high level importance...

lowe

pre 15 godina

"to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

(US KOSOVAR, 18 January 2009 02:21)"

I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.

US KOSOVAR

pre 15 godina

(lowe,
I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.

Im sorry but thats the way UN works and the law was written.


Thank You LMN ||

Armend

pre 15 godina

Dear friends, I am afraid we are going to have these "recognize" conversations very often, since even Spain, Greece, Slovakia and Romania will recognize soon the independence of Kosova. I am just thinking what will you invent to say at those days!!!

Anyway, thanks Panama

milan

pre 15 godina

How do the "Kosovars" feel knowing that most of the states that recognize this narco-terrorist/ethnically cleansed hamlet have done it under extreme pressure/bribery? Shameful.

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

"to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

(US KOSOVAR, 18 January 2009 02:21)"

I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.
(lowe, 18 January 2009 10:47)


So true lowe. Any country that is a permanent member of the UN Security Council can veto whatever and whenever they want. Soooo, with Russia and China both on the UNSC I seriously doubt KosovO, without the consent of Serbia, will ever become a member of the United Nations and you can take that to the bank, tsk tsk.

And this one caught my eye as well...

I mentioned only Albania, since they are our blood-brothers, but there are so many other countries who act in our favor and will never let Serbia enter NATO nor EU before Kosova.

Hmmm...have all of the EU members recognized KosovO? Hmmm...have all of the NATO members recognized KosovO? Until Serbia says "go ahead, have your independence" countries like Spain and Greece (original EU members mind you) will continue to block KosovO's entrance into either organization. My country may try it's ridiculous best to get you into NATO, but they have no say whatsoever in who joins the EU. The US is not the end all, be all in the world. We are not "kingmakers" and we do not dictate how the world should think no matter how hard we may try. The need, by my govt, to further American interests in the last 15 years, even at the detriment of others, has gotten way out of control in every possible way. The founding fathers of my country NEVER envisaged the USA becoming the world's policeman or, depending on how one looks at it, the world's scourge. No where in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence does it say we can do whatever we want, whenever we want and however we want. The breaking of international law in regards to KosovO is so astoundingly arrogant it's almost unbelieveable.

Milan T.O.

pre 15 godina

To "US KOSOVAR"

I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but i seriously think you should brush up on your knowledge when it comes to UN membership.

It does not matter if every single country in the world recognizes the "republic of kosovo", as long as russia is against it, it can use its veto to hinder any membership talks since it is a permament security council member.

raso

pre 15 godina

so north-columbia is acknowledging south-serbia!

that alone would be funny enough, wouldn´t there be announcment of a second second wave ...

was it that or is a third second wave to come ?

tim

pre 15 godina

How many of those 54 countries cannot say no, to what the USA wants? How many of them are victims to American economic terrorism. Do you think Panama is not dependent upon loans and trade with the USA I think they are, and their vote is coerced.

ZK

pre 15 godina

Hyseni was informed that a verbal note of recognition of Kosovo would be conveyed to Kosovo’s charge d’affaires in the U.S., Avni Spahiu.
--
A verbal note? Is that where we are with recognitions these days? Verbal recognitions? Ha ha, what a joke!

So when countries start to revoke recognitions is Panama just going to claim it was a miscommunication? Oh dear.

SupportSerbia

pre 15 godina

LOL, is this the beginning of the dreaded "second wave" that we've been hearing about for almost a year now? Not likely. We will have to wait another month or two for another U.S. cilent state to cough up recogition. My bet is Palau is up next.

The good news is that this recognition means nothing. Panama only exists because Teddy Roosevelt wanted a canal in Meso America so he engineered their independence from Colombia. Sound familiar?

Costa Rica, which recognizes China instead of Taiwan separatists (unlike Panama), has said it regrets hastily recognizing the so-called independence of Kosovo and Metohija. Costa Rica thought they were going to be first in a long line of recognizers. They were horribly wrong. Kosovo and Metohija is recognized by less than 25% of the world. This has embarrassed the authorities in Costa Rica and they will derecognize when the ICJ rules in favor of Serbia.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"Bingo!
Was it something that Jeremic said?
(miri, 16 January 2009 15:46)"

No, more likely Panama had to submit to this US demand if it hopes to get back the Panama canal in the future.

Michael

pre 15 godina

Yawn...who cares!

Just another occupied US nation recognizing another occupied US nation. Perhaps Noriega will accept Kosovo independence in exchange for his freedom/release.

Mike

pre 15 godina

Hey, after EULEX overrode Pristina's demands of sovereignty over the Serb areas, as well as Thaci's wish to cut economic ties to Serbia Proper, not to mention nothing has been done to dissolve the Serb Assembly in Mitrovica, the Albanians deserve a symbolic bone to be thrown at them every so often. If only to keep the game interesting. But unless Panama has a lot of clout, I doubt this will boost Kosovo's international standing any more than it did when Micronesia recognized. Congrats anyway.

Alban

pre 15 godina

Great news for Kosovars. A clever move by Panama. The list apparently will be longer now with arab countries and more american countries to move swiftly into recognizing Kosova. Cheers and hopefully Serbia will follow sooner rather than too late.

Anton

pre 15 godina

Thanks Panama , they voted in favour to Serbia in ICJ voting , and now they are recognizing the Republic of Kosova. Many countries are waiting to recognize Kosova so I am happy that the starting of year 2009 is good

PRN

pre 15 godina

Nr= 54...

Opppsss...why didn't Panama wait for ICJ ruling?

Since UN gave greeen light the ICJ for a ruling, the recognition of Kosovo independence is going at a higher speed. This was not was Mr. Jeremic promissed.

There might be some technical problems at the New York UN HQ and Mr. Jeremic should go back at the UN HQ and see the wording, because it may appear that the approved resolution may say "...the faster the rate of Kosovo recognition the easier is for ICJ to come to a conclusion."



Peace to all,


P.S.Is Mr. Jermic still on a government payroll???

Newborn

pre 15 godina

Panama should have been among the first 20 to recognize, considering that it is a US creation/colony.
(Lazar, 16 January 2009 16:25)

Lazo,Thanks god,All this World is colony of the United States!
What would the world be without USA and EU.
All peoples have the right to self-determination.
Happy independence New-Born!
Thank you Panama!

CG

pre 15 godina

Guys,it is not important if Micronesia or Grenada or some other island that will be brushed away by the map in some years anyway (because of global warming)recognizes Kosovo,the most important thing is that Russian and Chinese vetoes are secured at the UN and that Spain,Slovak and Romanian vetoes are secured for the EU and NATO and that they will not succumb to any pressure.
Thats what counts everything other is show.

Gojko

pre 15 godina

I dislike saying a country made another country recognize Kosovo.....
But there is so much truth in this with Panama. They will never forget the atrocities the USA caused in their country and like lowe mentioned, they will never get their property back. They are truly a colony of the USA and I am also surprised they did not recognized earlier. Maybe the USA was saving this recognition to get the hopes up for Albanians.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

yes, "SupportSerbia", that´s right, a number of voices have been heard to reconsider the socalled "recognition" as a reversible mistake in case the ICJ rules in favor of the only legitimate sovereign.

as for Panama, I wonder why they have not "recognized" this stillborn puppet entity right from the start, since after the kidnapping of Noriega, Panama is an occupied nation...without real and independent authorities...

may our desperate friends sing and clap, it doesn´t mean a lot, actually.

but in their desperation they even say that Panama "has a clout in the region"... to give this event of minor relevance some high level importance...

Michael John

pre 15 godina

Well, I guess the Ambassador to Serbia from Panama is about to leave cold and miserable Belgrade for the fresh air and warm sunshine of the pristine beaches of Panama. Bon Voyage Mr. Ambassador!

lowe

pre 15 godina

"The U.S. handed over the canal to the Panamanian government sometime during the Carter presidency. The military bases that guarded it, as well.
(Amer, 16 January 2009 22:19)"

Amer,

Lets set the record straight. The Treaties of Torrijos-Carter may on the surface return the canal to Panama. But it gives the US the PERPETUAL and INCONTESTABLE right to "defend" the canal -- yes, it is the US military and not the Panamanians that have the right of defence there. So how true is Panama's sovereignty over the canal?

smile

pre 15 godina

it's telling, really and highly amusing even that when another sad american dependency recognizes the abomination the first thought on our albanian friends mind is jeremic!
which means that they must think he's doing a hell of a good job for serbia, otherwise why would the little man bug them so much :)
anyway i dont think he is and i cant wait to see the end of this government.

Nelli

pre 15 godina

Don't worry Prishtina at all, by the time the ICJ makes its' formal report there will be at least 100 countries that have recognized my golden Kosova as sovereign STATE. Turkish government lobbying in arab countries, that's cool. Croatia's ambassador in Prishtina announced that his country will lobby in south America. On behalf of Kosova thank you very very much Hrvatska. "A friend in need is a friend indeed".

AO KS

pre 15 godina

You (you = Serbs) always argue that a non-independent country cannot enter the UN, and thus you say that Panama is not an independent and sovereign country! Well, guess what - Panama is in the UN! Each UN country (be it big or small) that recognizes us, is a huge victory for Kosova.

Thanx Panama.

Greets from Prishtina!

AO KS

pre 15 godina

CG, remember that Albania will soon become a NATO country, thus its veto will be used against Serbia as well :). I mentioned only Albania, since they are our blood-brothers, but there are so many other countries who act in our favor and will never let Serbia enter NATO nor EU before Kosova.

Amer

pre 15 godina

No, more likely Panama had to submit to this US demand if it hopes to get back the Panama canal in the future.
(lowe, 16 January 2009 17:03)

The U.S. handed over the canal to the Panamanian government sometime during the Carter presidency. The military bases that guarded it, as well.

Denis

pre 15 godina

So when countries start to revoke recognitions is Panama just going to claim it was a miscommunication? Oh dear.
(ZK, 16 January 2009 16:59)

For a long time Serbia undermined the capability of Albanians to govern themselves. Out of an estimated $26.2 billion, that Serbia borrowed from the west, only some $1.1 billion went to Kosovo (if that), anything there then was wiped out during the war including thousands of houses, factories and institutions. One has only to look at Kosovo's road system v.s the Serbian one, to recognize the inferior care that Serbia has shown for the region. But yet, you were quick to claim Kosovo as the birthplace of Serbian nationalism, and upon that region's poverty and unlivable conditions, to celebrate and glorify your statehood.

Of course, in this poverty and after the destruction of the war and status issues, Kosovo will have a tough time building a state and modern institutions.

roberto

pre 15 godina

I cannot believe i was censored again -- read my mind...

how-ever, my message -- congratulations to all the people of kosovo/a, there is something wonderful that comes with each and every recognition, and we need to appreciate it, and enjoy it. with each recognition brings hope for the future, and respect for independence and democracy.

of course there is a long way to go and we need to remain critical and self-critical, but remember to keep your eyes on the prize.

it is so hard to stay above the fray, almost impossible. after all, i am only human, as are we all. but celebrate the victories. thank you to all of our friends and allies, and let's keep the ball rolling.

roberto

Funcakes

pre 15 godina

Not only is Panama important because of it's regional clout, but it's also important because this was a country that voted in favor of the ICJ resolution and yet it recognized.

These were supposed to be the "tough cookies", the ones who'd take a while to recognize...and well, even those tough cookies are doing it now.

lowe

pre 15 godina

"to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

(US KOSOVAR, 18 January 2009 02:21)"

I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.

US KOSOVAR

pre 15 godina

to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

To CG and others Serbians,
what you all saying that every country that recognizes Kosovo its a US puppet or they been forced to do so, or maybe you just dont ignore the reality,

WAKE UP WITH NEW KSF( Kosovo Security Forces )to you maybe its not a real army its just security thats the truth once the NATO its out guess what, KSF are taking over and Belgrade knows all this including the Serbian people,

But i agree w.Serbians on 1 thing they dont give up anything without a fight.

God Bless Panama

LMN II, USA

pre 15 godina

"to ALL
Everyone country count's. ones it reches the magic number 93+ kosovo will join UN, no one can veto,

(US KOSOVAR, 18 January 2009 02:21)"

I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.
(lowe, 18 January 2009 10:47)


So true lowe. Any country that is a permanent member of the UN Security Council can veto whatever and whenever they want. Soooo, with Russia and China both on the UNSC I seriously doubt KosovO, without the consent of Serbia, will ever become a member of the United Nations and you can take that to the bank, tsk tsk.

And this one caught my eye as well...

I mentioned only Albania, since they are our blood-brothers, but there are so many other countries who act in our favor and will never let Serbia enter NATO nor EU before Kosova.

Hmmm...have all of the EU members recognized KosovO? Hmmm...have all of the NATO members recognized KosovO? Until Serbia says "go ahead, have your independence" countries like Spain and Greece (original EU members mind you) will continue to block KosovO's entrance into either organization. My country may try it's ridiculous best to get you into NATO, but they have no say whatsoever in who joins the EU. The US is not the end all, be all in the world. We are not "kingmakers" and we do not dictate how the world should think no matter how hard we may try. The need, by my govt, to further American interests in the last 15 years, even at the detriment of others, has gotten way out of control in every possible way. The founding fathers of my country NEVER envisaged the USA becoming the world's policeman or, depending on how one looks at it, the world's scourge. No where in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence does it say we can do whatever we want, whenever we want and however we want. The breaking of international law in regards to KosovO is so astoundingly arrogant it's almost unbelieveable.

Milan T.O.

pre 15 godina

To "US KOSOVAR"

I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but i seriously think you should brush up on your knowledge when it comes to UN membership.

It does not matter if every single country in the world recognizes the "republic of kosovo", as long as russia is against it, it can use its veto to hinder any membership talks since it is a permament security council member.

milan

pre 15 godina

How do the "Kosovars" feel knowing that most of the states that recognize this narco-terrorist/ethnically cleansed hamlet have done it under extreme pressure/bribery? Shameful.

raso

pre 15 godina

so north-columbia is acknowledging south-serbia!

that alone would be funny enough, wouldn´t there be announcment of a second second wave ...

was it that or is a third second wave to come ?

doodah

pre 15 godina

Isn't it ironic that supposedly the US has so many puppets but the world only knows of the one that Russia has. The one that was recently bought for 20 cents on the dollar.

US KOSOVAR

pre 15 godina

(lowe,
I am sorry to say you are so utterly ignorant about UN membership and the UNSC veto power.

Im sorry but thats the way UN works and the law was written.


Thank You LMN ||

Armend

pre 15 godina

Dear friends, I am afraid we are going to have these "recognize" conversations very often, since even Spain, Greece, Slovakia and Romania will recognize soon the independence of Kosova. I am just thinking what will you invent to say at those days!!!

Anyway, thanks Panama

tim

pre 15 godina

How many of those 54 countries cannot say no, to what the USA wants? How many of them are victims to American economic terrorism. Do you think Panama is not dependent upon loans and trade with the USA I think they are, and their vote is coerced.