NS: Tadić ruling like autocrat

'But, if Tadić tolerates coalition partners like Nenad Čanak, who is drawing up borders for Vojvodina...'

This is the scary part. Canak's party issues 2009 calendars which show an independent Vojvodina, and Tadic's response is basically nothing. Not even a slap on th wrist. Only the opposition has strongly criticized Canak.
We need new elections ASAP.

Ilic is absolutely right. Tadic is an autocratic dictator who was set up by the EU and US to control Serbia according to the West's desires. Cvetkovic is an intelligent man, but his office of PM is simply a facade for Tadic. Yes, Serbia needs strong leadership, but leadership that is democratic and good for Serbia- not necessarily the West. Tadic is a very strong "puppet" for the West, and he's making a joke out of Serbia's sovereignty. All one has to do is look back at last May's election and the irregularities and "surprises" which put Tadic in complete control- all manipulated by the US and Great Britain. Unbelieveable!!!

Pretty funny statements coming from the Knez of Cacak.

Brian

Tito was one of the best leaders of the Balkans ever. Why is he looked upon so negatively by the Serbs? Under him, Yugoslavia never saw such prosperity, especially when compared to Milosevic!

He is right. Tadic is more of a dictator than Milosevic ever was and is nearing Tito in level of personal dictatorship.

Tadic isn't a dictator. A western puppet, yes to a large degree.

It seems a drift to autocacy is what happens to anyone who is a leader of Serbia. It happenned to Slobo, it happenened to Djindjic [who people forget wrote his thesis on how to increase power in times of crisis- and there were many crisis real and artificial during his rule], Kostunica and now Tadic.

All these ones have in common is that when they first came to power they were haled as allies, friends and even democrats by the west and after a few short years the west was dissatisfied with them.

New Elections please.
:)

HURRY UP.

Tito was one of the best leaders of the Balkans ever. Why is he looked upon so negatively by the Serbs? Under him, Yugoslavia never saw such prosperity, especially when compared to Milosevic!
(Peter Sudyka, 15 January 2009 21:02)

First of all Peter, even the Crotas hate Tito. He was one of them and did more for them than he ever did for Serbs.
Here is a reason why he should rot in Hell forever.
After WW2 he stopped many Serbs from returning to Kosovo while he basically opened the border with Albanian and allowed them to just settle in Kosovo.
I wonder why Tito made this decision. Could it be to keep the Serbian population to a minimum and that way fragment Serbia?

I suggest you watch a documentary called "Stolen Kosovo" and then draw your conclusion of who Tito was and how good he was for the Serbs.

Also in Bosnia, Muslims and Croatians had no problem with celebrating their religious events while Serbs were afraid to. As a child there, I was aware of Ramadan and Catholic easter etc. but I never saw anyone celebrate anything Orthodox. This was frowned upon. Tito was making sure that only the Serbs were practicing brotherhood and unity to the letter and nobody else.

Do watch that documentary. It is not made by Serbs so don't think it is Serb propaganda. I have heard that the documentary was banned. If you can, get your hands on it and then draw your own conclusion about Tito's warm and fuzzy feelings towards the Serbs.

Peggy

I do understand what you are saying with regards to Tito and his opinion of Serbs. I even recall him saying something like "a weak Serbia means a strong Yugoslavia".

But while he may have been a dictator, he was not malevolent. Yugoslavia was much better than Poland during his rule (my parents travelled through most of Yugoslavia, even spend their honeymoon on Hvar), and I just think while pride in your nation is a good thing, it must sometimes be suppressed if the nation is to see peaceful coexistence and prosperity like 70's Yugoslavia, rather than the hard way of having to rebuild it after Milosevic. Of course I am not trying to convince you of anything as a Serb, I am just giving my outside opinion as a Pole.

My friends..

Its proven that presidential governments are the most powerful ones.

Example is USA. Everybody can agree but if president say no its finished.
And everybody can disagree but if president say yes its yes.

Of course I am not trying to convince you of anything as a Serb, I am just giving my outside opinion as a Pole.
(Peter Sudyka, 16 January 2009 19:13)

Peter, that's exactly what it it. An outside opinion. The people who lived there at the time of Tito's dictatorship know just how he ruled and who he favoured.

To an outsider things look good as the country certainly looked like it was prospering, but only the people who lived there know the real truth.

That's why I recommended that documentary. Seriously, if you get a chance please see it. It will open your eyes to who was being fragmanted and whose land was being given for brotherhood and unity. It was only the Serbian land.

I understand that you are an outsider and I don't begrudge your opinion, but I feel compelled to bring some facts to your attention.

I didn't even know I was christened or that Christmas existed before we emigrated to Australia. But the others knew of their religion. Why do you think that was so?

Ilic is absolutely right. Tadic is an autocratic dictator who was set up by the EU and US to control Serbia according to the West's desires. Cvetkovic is an intelligent man, but his office of PM is simply a facade for Tadic. Yes, Serbia needs strong leadership, but leadership that is democratic and good for Serbia- not necessarily the West. Tadic is a very strong "puppet" for the West, and he's making a joke out of Serbia's sovereignty. All one has to do is look back at last May's election and the irregularities and "surprises" which put Tadic in complete control- all manipulated by the US and Great Britain. Unbelieveable!!!

New Elections please.
:)

HURRY UP.

'But, if Tadić tolerates coalition partners like Nenad Čanak, who is drawing up borders for Vojvodina...'

This is the scary part. Canak's party issues 2009 calendars which show an independent Vojvodina, and Tadic's response is basically nothing. Not even a slap on th wrist. Only the opposition has strongly criticized Canak.
We need new elections ASAP.

He is right. Tadic is more of a dictator than Milosevic ever was and is nearing Tito in level of personal dictatorship.

Brian

Tito was one of the best leaders of the Balkans ever. Why is he looked upon so negatively by the Serbs? Under him, Yugoslavia never saw such prosperity, especially when compared to Milosevic!

Tito was one of the best leaders of the Balkans ever. Why is he looked upon so negatively by the Serbs? Under him, Yugoslavia never saw such prosperity, especially when compared to Milosevic!
(Peter Sudyka, 15 January 2009 21:02)

First of all Peter, even the Crotas hate Tito. He was one of them and did more for them than he ever did for Serbs.
Here is a reason why he should rot in Hell forever.
After WW2 he stopped many Serbs from returning to Kosovo while he basically opened the border with Albanian and allowed them to just settle in Kosovo.
I wonder why Tito made this decision. Could it be to keep the Serbian population to a minimum and that way fragment Serbia?

I suggest you watch a documentary called "Stolen Kosovo" and then draw your conclusion of who Tito was and how good he was for the Serbs.

Also in Bosnia, Muslims and Croatians had no problem with celebrating their religious events while Serbs were afraid to. As a child there, I was aware of Ramadan and Catholic easter etc. but I never saw anyone celebrate anything Orthodox. This was frowned upon. Tito was making sure that only the Serbs were practicing brotherhood and unity to the letter and nobody else.

Do watch that documentary. It is not made by Serbs so don't think it is Serb propaganda. I have heard that the documentary was banned. If you can, get your hands on it and then draw your own conclusion about Tito's warm and fuzzy feelings towards the Serbs.

Pretty funny statements coming from the Knez of Cacak.

Tadic isn't a dictator. A western puppet, yes to a large degree.

It seems a drift to autocacy is what happens to anyone who is a leader of Serbia. It happenned to Slobo, it happenened to Djindjic [who people forget wrote his thesis on how to increase power in times of crisis- and there were many crisis real and artificial during his rule], Kostunica and now Tadic.

All these ones have in common is that when they first came to power they were haled as allies, friends and even democrats by the west and after a few short years the west was dissatisfied with them.

Peggy

I do understand what you are saying with regards to Tito and his opinion of Serbs. I even recall him saying something like "a weak Serbia means a strong Yugoslavia".

But while he may have been a dictator, he was not malevolent. Yugoslavia was much better than Poland during his rule (my parents travelled through most of Yugoslavia, even spend their honeymoon on Hvar), and I just think while pride in your nation is a good thing, it must sometimes be suppressed if the nation is to see peaceful coexistence and prosperity like 70's Yugoslavia, rather than the hard way of having to rebuild it after Milosevic. Of course I am not trying to convince you of anything as a Serb, I am just giving my outside opinion as a Pole.

My friends..

Its proven that presidential governments are the most powerful ones.

Example is USA. Everybody can agree but if president say no its finished.
And everybody can disagree but if president say yes its yes.

Of course I am not trying to convince you of anything as a Serb, I am just giving my outside opinion as a Pole.
(Peter Sudyka, 16 January 2009 19:13)

Peter, that's exactly what it it. An outside opinion. The people who lived there at the time of Tito's dictatorship know just how he ruled and who he favoured.

To an outsider things look good as the country certainly looked like it was prospering, but only the people who lived there know the real truth.

That's why I recommended that documentary. Seriously, if you get a chance please see it. It will open your eyes to who was being fragmanted and whose land was being given for brotherhood and unity. It was only the Serbian land.

I understand that you are an outsider and I don't begrudge your opinion, but I feel compelled to bring some facts to your attention.

I didn't even know I was christened or that Christmas existed before we emigrated to Australia. But the others knew of their religion. Why do you think that was so?