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Sunday, 04.01.2009.

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Israeli troops close in on Gaza City

Israeli ground troops clashed Sunday morning with Palestinian gunmen in the Gaza Strip, and reportedly bisected the coastal area.

Izvor: Ha'aretz

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Matthew

pre 15 godina

“Are you saying that serbia should've been bombed, and so should israel?”

Obviously I’m saying neither should have been bombed. Clearly I’m pointing out of the hypocrisy of the “democratic” world.

I support the partition of Kosovo taking into account the cultural value of those areas we consider to be the very cradle of our civilization. Just as I do for Israel.

Israel has been reacting to the situation the same way for 40 years. Its not working, its time for a change in the approach.

I didn’t support Milosevic’s heavy handed tactics either, does that somehow make me anti-Serb too? Oh, I’m probably a “traitor” to the Serbian race huh?

“a country is under attack and it defends itself.”

Ummmnnn, correct me if I’m wrong, but seems to me Palestine has been occupied since 1967. You don’t think they have any right to defend themselves in any way?

So for example, if Croatia invaded Serbia because of an uprising in Krajina and occupied Serbia in the same manner Israel has done to Palestine, you’re telling me you’d be cool with that? Or if Albania did the same thing? Somehow I think you’d be out throwing rocks too. I know I would.

smile

pre 15 godina

'Hmmmmnnnn, in 40 years of fighting they haven’t been able to do this? What makes them think its possible now?'

It really doesnt hurt to know what you're talking about. hamas dates back to mid-80s. bus bombings were their trademark in the 1st intifada. they are terrorists and fight bloody battles with other palestians such as fatah. fatah are btw waiting to see how this turns out with a lot of interest.
the root of this is sharon's and olmert's disastrous policy imo. smart people said, dont leave gaza and wreck the lives of tens of thousands of hard working jews for the sake of a publicity stunt on behalf of washington. smart people said, you'll only have to go back one day. et voila. now all we can do is pray for as few casualties among israeli soldiers and palestinian civilians while israel reduces this threat.

'The problem is the Palestinians have nothing left to lose.'

wrong. poverty breeds terrorism is an empty slogan. otherwise 90% of africa would be strapping bombs around their wastes killing shoppers commuters and restaurant goers. the truth is that terrorism breeds poverty.

'Those Hamas rockets are a nuisance at best'

so if mexico lobbed rockets at texas and arizona for three years, washington would shrug it off as no big deal? what an utterly shocking statement. a country is under attack and it defends itself. yes, it goes for jews too. yes, jews are people with equal right as french, italians, candians, russians to live and not to hide their kids in bomb shelters. yes, even if they live in sderot.

'Why was Serbia bombed for 78 days over Racak'

Are you saying that serbia should've been bombed, and so should israel? on the contrary i'm saying, israel should fight terrorism and so should serbia. serbia never attacked any nato country for one minute not with rockets not with anything. nato's aggression on serbia was illegal and unjustified and cowardly, no ground troops, for example. there was no war in kosovo and no albanian refugees until AFTER nato started bombing serbia.

'I’d probably be throwing rocks at tanks too.'

forgive me please, but your entire post is like a compilation of emtpy, empty antiisreali propaganda slogans. hows this for innocents throwing rocks

http://info.jpost.com/C001/Supplements/Disco/index.html

and its just one of literally thousands attacks in the past decades.

'Israel clearly has a right to exist'

why, thank you so much. just out of curiosity, how many other countries around the world get various sorts of people graciously acknowledging their right to exist and feeling mighty righteous afterward? not many, right? for antisemites, i guess it's a big step to say jews have a right to have their state, jews have a right to exist. but guess what, israel doesnt care if any of you agree it should exist. it will exist with its people's hard work and dedication to survive and thrive, and it will survive and thrive. just like before.


Luciano,
'My dear Serb friends stand together with us in our fight against the mujahadeen killers targeting Israeli women and children just as every righteous Jew stands with you in your struggle for the lives and dignity of your fellow Serbs in your sacred Kosovo.'

God bless you.

luciano

pre 15 godina

My dear Serb friends stand together with us in our fight against the mujahadeen killers targeting Israeli women and children just as every righteous Jew stands with you in your struggle for the lives and dignity of your fellow Serbs in your sacred Kosovo.The Arabs may be our neighbors but too many of them are violent and fanatical just as are the KLA killers on your doorstep.Do not forget that over a MILLION Arabs live as equal citizens of the state of Israel and a Hamas rocket is as traumatic to them as to a Jewish child.Do not ask any Jew to EVER again bow to those who want to incinerate the Jewish people and if it takes the liquidating of 1 million hamas killers to stop the killing of 1 Israeli child then so be it.May God have mercy on all their souls.Shalom

Matthew

pre 15 godina

“The objective is to destroy the Hamas terror infrastructure in the area of operations"

Hmmmmnnnn, in 40 years of fighting they haven’t been able to do this? What makes them think its possible now?

Ataman, the ratio of Palestinians killed to Israeli’s is 169 to 1, don’t you feel that maybe the response is a bit disproportionate? Those Hamas rockets are a nuisance at best, they rarely kill or hurt anyone.

The problem is the Palestinians have nothing left to lose. Give them jobs and stability, something to hold onto, and maybe then they’d fear losing what they have.

Why was Serbia bombed for 78 days over Racak (45 dead), which was a KLA stronghold, and Israeli is allowed to do this for 40 straight years?

If I grew up in the same conditions as the Palestinians, I’d probably be throwing rocks at tanks too.

Israel clearly has a right to exist, and after what they experienced in WWII, we need a certain level of understanding towards their over reactions toward anything that might possibly “threaten” their state, but enough is enough. This conflict is jeopardizing the security of the entire planet.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

Isn't it amazing how Israel is allowed to respond to terrorism by bombing, sending in tanks, cutting off aid to hospitals, and doing anything they wish, and the world says nothing?
When the KLA terrorists were killing Serbian civilians, postmen, officers and the Serb army was sent in to neutralize them - which they did - the KLA with the help of the US staged the 'Racak Massacre' which was a total hoax, and used it as an excuse to bomb Serbia for 78 days. This was illegal and a blatant war crime by NATO, I might add. These double standards are amazing. If Serbia was Israel the US would have cheered us on and let us completely empty Kosovo of albanians. That is the sad truth.
It's good to see Russia rising and tilting the balance of power in the world, and the US bankrupt and sinking fast. Perhaps these double standards will soon end and we will have truth and justice in this world, instead of getting bombarded by propoganda and lies.
Be patient friends, Kosovo will be back under full Serbian control, and there WILL be justice.
Cheers!!

Leonidas

pre 15 godina

To Attaman

Who is responsible for the ghettoisation of Gaza?
Who is responsible for the 17.5% of malnutrition that the children are suffering?
Israel's behaviour is not defence.It's an aggressive act designed to impose terror
on the population and dispose their elected goverment.
The current attacks far from weakening Hamas will only serve to support it in exactly the same way as Hezbollah was strenghthened back in 2006 during the Lebanon invasion.
The so-called peace process is dead.Israel does't want peace,it wants total capitulation.
As long as US politicians continue to believe that Jews are the select few and try to explain all world phenomena through the bible there would never be peace in
the middle east.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

What we're witnessing is state terrorism against defenseless civilians.
(Leonidas, 4 January 2009 18:13)

Yes, precisely - state terrorism sponsored by Iran, Syria. Because Hamas was targeting... whom? Some defenseless Israeli civilians or HQ of Mossad?

Clearly, Hamas was the aggressor. Very sad that Palestinian civilians are among victims, but Israel is (as usual) 100% right by not letting itself become the victim of islamo-fascists.

Leonidas

pre 15 godina

What we're witnessing is state terrorism against defenseless civilians.
Starving children and civilians,indiscriminate bombardment of medical and educational infrastucture are
actions totally diproportionate by any criteria.
Israel is aided and encouraged by a US president responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in his illegal wars.We'll live with the legacy of those wars for many years to come.
I think the operation against Hamas is just the taste of things to come in the immediate future against Iran.

luciano

pre 15 godina

My dear Serb friends stand together with us in our fight against the mujahadeen killers targeting Israeli women and children just as every righteous Jew stands with you in your struggle for the lives and dignity of your fellow Serbs in your sacred Kosovo.The Arabs may be our neighbors but too many of them are violent and fanatical just as are the KLA killers on your doorstep.Do not forget that over a MILLION Arabs live as equal citizens of the state of Israel and a Hamas rocket is as traumatic to them as to a Jewish child.Do not ask any Jew to EVER again bow to those who want to incinerate the Jewish people and if it takes the liquidating of 1 million hamas killers to stop the killing of 1 Israeli child then so be it.May God have mercy on all their souls.Shalom

Ataman

pre 15 godina

What we're witnessing is state terrorism against defenseless civilians.
(Leonidas, 4 January 2009 18:13)

Yes, precisely - state terrorism sponsored by Iran, Syria. Because Hamas was targeting... whom? Some defenseless Israeli civilians or HQ of Mossad?

Clearly, Hamas was the aggressor. Very sad that Palestinian civilians are among victims, but Israel is (as usual) 100% right by not letting itself become the victim of islamo-fascists.

smile

pre 15 godina

'Hmmmmnnnn, in 40 years of fighting they haven’t been able to do this? What makes them think its possible now?'

It really doesnt hurt to know what you're talking about. hamas dates back to mid-80s. bus bombings were their trademark in the 1st intifada. they are terrorists and fight bloody battles with other palestians such as fatah. fatah are btw waiting to see how this turns out with a lot of interest.
the root of this is sharon's and olmert's disastrous policy imo. smart people said, dont leave gaza and wreck the lives of tens of thousands of hard working jews for the sake of a publicity stunt on behalf of washington. smart people said, you'll only have to go back one day. et voila. now all we can do is pray for as few casualties among israeli soldiers and palestinian civilians while israel reduces this threat.

'The problem is the Palestinians have nothing left to lose.'

wrong. poverty breeds terrorism is an empty slogan. otherwise 90% of africa would be strapping bombs around their wastes killing shoppers commuters and restaurant goers. the truth is that terrorism breeds poverty.

'Those Hamas rockets are a nuisance at best'

so if mexico lobbed rockets at texas and arizona for three years, washington would shrug it off as no big deal? what an utterly shocking statement. a country is under attack and it defends itself. yes, it goes for jews too. yes, jews are people with equal right as french, italians, candians, russians to live and not to hide their kids in bomb shelters. yes, even if they live in sderot.

'Why was Serbia bombed for 78 days over Racak'

Are you saying that serbia should've been bombed, and so should israel? on the contrary i'm saying, israel should fight terrorism and so should serbia. serbia never attacked any nato country for one minute not with rockets not with anything. nato's aggression on serbia was illegal and unjustified and cowardly, no ground troops, for example. there was no war in kosovo and no albanian refugees until AFTER nato started bombing serbia.

'I’d probably be throwing rocks at tanks too.'

forgive me please, but your entire post is like a compilation of emtpy, empty antiisreali propaganda slogans. hows this for innocents throwing rocks

http://info.jpost.com/C001/Supplements/Disco/index.html

and its just one of literally thousands attacks in the past decades.

'Israel clearly has a right to exist'

why, thank you so much. just out of curiosity, how many other countries around the world get various sorts of people graciously acknowledging their right to exist and feeling mighty righteous afterward? not many, right? for antisemites, i guess it's a big step to say jews have a right to have their state, jews have a right to exist. but guess what, israel doesnt care if any of you agree it should exist. it will exist with its people's hard work and dedication to survive and thrive, and it will survive and thrive. just like before.


Luciano,
'My dear Serb friends stand together with us in our fight against the mujahadeen killers targeting Israeli women and children just as every righteous Jew stands with you in your struggle for the lives and dignity of your fellow Serbs in your sacred Kosovo.'

God bless you.

Leonidas

pre 15 godina

What we're witnessing is state terrorism against defenseless civilians.
Starving children and civilians,indiscriminate bombardment of medical and educational infrastucture are
actions totally diproportionate by any criteria.
Israel is aided and encouraged by a US president responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in his illegal wars.We'll live with the legacy of those wars for many years to come.
I think the operation against Hamas is just the taste of things to come in the immediate future against Iran.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

Isn't it amazing how Israel is allowed to respond to terrorism by bombing, sending in tanks, cutting off aid to hospitals, and doing anything they wish, and the world says nothing?
When the KLA terrorists were killing Serbian civilians, postmen, officers and the Serb army was sent in to neutralize them - which they did - the KLA with the help of the US staged the 'Racak Massacre' which was a total hoax, and used it as an excuse to bomb Serbia for 78 days. This was illegal and a blatant war crime by NATO, I might add. These double standards are amazing. If Serbia was Israel the US would have cheered us on and let us completely empty Kosovo of albanians. That is the sad truth.
It's good to see Russia rising and tilting the balance of power in the world, and the US bankrupt and sinking fast. Perhaps these double standards will soon end and we will have truth and justice in this world, instead of getting bombarded by propoganda and lies.
Be patient friends, Kosovo will be back under full Serbian control, and there WILL be justice.
Cheers!!

Leonidas

pre 15 godina

To Attaman

Who is responsible for the ghettoisation of Gaza?
Who is responsible for the 17.5% of malnutrition that the children are suffering?
Israel's behaviour is not defence.It's an aggressive act designed to impose terror
on the population and dispose their elected goverment.
The current attacks far from weakening Hamas will only serve to support it in exactly the same way as Hezbollah was strenghthened back in 2006 during the Lebanon invasion.
The so-called peace process is dead.Israel does't want peace,it wants total capitulation.
As long as US politicians continue to believe that Jews are the select few and try to explain all world phenomena through the bible there would never be peace in
the middle east.

Matthew

pre 15 godina

“The objective is to destroy the Hamas terror infrastructure in the area of operations"

Hmmmmnnnn, in 40 years of fighting they haven’t been able to do this? What makes them think its possible now?

Ataman, the ratio of Palestinians killed to Israeli’s is 169 to 1, don’t you feel that maybe the response is a bit disproportionate? Those Hamas rockets are a nuisance at best, they rarely kill or hurt anyone.

The problem is the Palestinians have nothing left to lose. Give them jobs and stability, something to hold onto, and maybe then they’d fear losing what they have.

Why was Serbia bombed for 78 days over Racak (45 dead), which was a KLA stronghold, and Israeli is allowed to do this for 40 straight years?

If I grew up in the same conditions as the Palestinians, I’d probably be throwing rocks at tanks too.

Israel clearly has a right to exist, and after what they experienced in WWII, we need a certain level of understanding towards their over reactions toward anything that might possibly “threaten” their state, but enough is enough. This conflict is jeopardizing the security of the entire planet.

Matthew

pre 15 godina

“Are you saying that serbia should've been bombed, and so should israel?”

Obviously I’m saying neither should have been bombed. Clearly I’m pointing out of the hypocrisy of the “democratic” world.

I support the partition of Kosovo taking into account the cultural value of those areas we consider to be the very cradle of our civilization. Just as I do for Israel.

Israel has been reacting to the situation the same way for 40 years. Its not working, its time for a change in the approach.

I didn’t support Milosevic’s heavy handed tactics either, does that somehow make me anti-Serb too? Oh, I’m probably a “traitor” to the Serbian race huh?

“a country is under attack and it defends itself.”

Ummmnnn, correct me if I’m wrong, but seems to me Palestine has been occupied since 1967. You don’t think they have any right to defend themselves in any way?

So for example, if Croatia invaded Serbia because of an uprising in Krajina and occupied Serbia in the same manner Israel has done to Palestine, you’re telling me you’d be cool with that? Or if Albania did the same thing? Somehow I think you’d be out throwing rocks too. I know I would.

Matthew

pre 15 godina

“The objective is to destroy the Hamas terror infrastructure in the area of operations"

Hmmmmnnnn, in 40 years of fighting they haven’t been able to do this? What makes them think its possible now?

Ataman, the ratio of Palestinians killed to Israeli’s is 169 to 1, don’t you feel that maybe the response is a bit disproportionate? Those Hamas rockets are a nuisance at best, they rarely kill or hurt anyone.

The problem is the Palestinians have nothing left to lose. Give them jobs and stability, something to hold onto, and maybe then they’d fear losing what they have.

Why was Serbia bombed for 78 days over Racak (45 dead), which was a KLA stronghold, and Israeli is allowed to do this for 40 straight years?

If I grew up in the same conditions as the Palestinians, I’d probably be throwing rocks at tanks too.

Israel clearly has a right to exist, and after what they experienced in WWII, we need a certain level of understanding towards their over reactions toward anything that might possibly “threaten” their state, but enough is enough. This conflict is jeopardizing the security of the entire planet.

Dragan

pre 15 godina

Isn't it amazing how Israel is allowed to respond to terrorism by bombing, sending in tanks, cutting off aid to hospitals, and doing anything they wish, and the world says nothing?
When the KLA terrorists were killing Serbian civilians, postmen, officers and the Serb army was sent in to neutralize them - which they did - the KLA with the help of the US staged the 'Racak Massacre' which was a total hoax, and used it as an excuse to bomb Serbia for 78 days. This was illegal and a blatant war crime by NATO, I might add. These double standards are amazing. If Serbia was Israel the US would have cheered us on and let us completely empty Kosovo of albanians. That is the sad truth.
It's good to see Russia rising and tilting the balance of power in the world, and the US bankrupt and sinking fast. Perhaps these double standards will soon end and we will have truth and justice in this world, instead of getting bombarded by propoganda and lies.
Be patient friends, Kosovo will be back under full Serbian control, and there WILL be justice.
Cheers!!

Leonidas

pre 15 godina

To Attaman

Who is responsible for the ghettoisation of Gaza?
Who is responsible for the 17.5% of malnutrition that the children are suffering?
Israel's behaviour is not defence.It's an aggressive act designed to impose terror
on the population and dispose their elected goverment.
The current attacks far from weakening Hamas will only serve to support it in exactly the same way as Hezbollah was strenghthened back in 2006 during the Lebanon invasion.
The so-called peace process is dead.Israel does't want peace,it wants total capitulation.
As long as US politicians continue to believe that Jews are the select few and try to explain all world phenomena through the bible there would never be peace in
the middle east.

Leonidas

pre 15 godina

What we're witnessing is state terrorism against defenseless civilians.
Starving children and civilians,indiscriminate bombardment of medical and educational infrastucture are
actions totally diproportionate by any criteria.
Israel is aided and encouraged by a US president responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in his illegal wars.We'll live with the legacy of those wars for many years to come.
I think the operation against Hamas is just the taste of things to come in the immediate future against Iran.

Matthew

pre 15 godina

“Are you saying that serbia should've been bombed, and so should israel?”

Obviously I’m saying neither should have been bombed. Clearly I’m pointing out of the hypocrisy of the “democratic” world.

I support the partition of Kosovo taking into account the cultural value of those areas we consider to be the very cradle of our civilization. Just as I do for Israel.

Israel has been reacting to the situation the same way for 40 years. Its not working, its time for a change in the approach.

I didn’t support Milosevic’s heavy handed tactics either, does that somehow make me anti-Serb too? Oh, I’m probably a “traitor” to the Serbian race huh?

“a country is under attack and it defends itself.”

Ummmnnn, correct me if I’m wrong, but seems to me Palestine has been occupied since 1967. You don’t think they have any right to defend themselves in any way?

So for example, if Croatia invaded Serbia because of an uprising in Krajina and occupied Serbia in the same manner Israel has done to Palestine, you’re telling me you’d be cool with that? Or if Albania did the same thing? Somehow I think you’d be out throwing rocks too. I know I would.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

What we're witnessing is state terrorism against defenseless civilians.
(Leonidas, 4 January 2009 18:13)

Yes, precisely - state terrorism sponsored by Iran, Syria. Because Hamas was targeting... whom? Some defenseless Israeli civilians or HQ of Mossad?

Clearly, Hamas was the aggressor. Very sad that Palestinian civilians are among victims, but Israel is (as usual) 100% right by not letting itself become the victim of islamo-fascists.

luciano

pre 15 godina

My dear Serb friends stand together with us in our fight against the mujahadeen killers targeting Israeli women and children just as every righteous Jew stands with you in your struggle for the lives and dignity of your fellow Serbs in your sacred Kosovo.The Arabs may be our neighbors but too many of them are violent and fanatical just as are the KLA killers on your doorstep.Do not forget that over a MILLION Arabs live as equal citizens of the state of Israel and a Hamas rocket is as traumatic to them as to a Jewish child.Do not ask any Jew to EVER again bow to those who want to incinerate the Jewish people and if it takes the liquidating of 1 million hamas killers to stop the killing of 1 Israeli child then so be it.May God have mercy on all their souls.Shalom

smile

pre 15 godina

'Hmmmmnnnn, in 40 years of fighting they haven’t been able to do this? What makes them think its possible now?'

It really doesnt hurt to know what you're talking about. hamas dates back to mid-80s. bus bombings were their trademark in the 1st intifada. they are terrorists and fight bloody battles with other palestians such as fatah. fatah are btw waiting to see how this turns out with a lot of interest.
the root of this is sharon's and olmert's disastrous policy imo. smart people said, dont leave gaza and wreck the lives of tens of thousands of hard working jews for the sake of a publicity stunt on behalf of washington. smart people said, you'll only have to go back one day. et voila. now all we can do is pray for as few casualties among israeli soldiers and palestinian civilians while israel reduces this threat.

'The problem is the Palestinians have nothing left to lose.'

wrong. poverty breeds terrorism is an empty slogan. otherwise 90% of africa would be strapping bombs around their wastes killing shoppers commuters and restaurant goers. the truth is that terrorism breeds poverty.

'Those Hamas rockets are a nuisance at best'

so if mexico lobbed rockets at texas and arizona for three years, washington would shrug it off as no big deal? what an utterly shocking statement. a country is under attack and it defends itself. yes, it goes for jews too. yes, jews are people with equal right as french, italians, candians, russians to live and not to hide their kids in bomb shelters. yes, even if they live in sderot.

'Why was Serbia bombed for 78 days over Racak'

Are you saying that serbia should've been bombed, and so should israel? on the contrary i'm saying, israel should fight terrorism and so should serbia. serbia never attacked any nato country for one minute not with rockets not with anything. nato's aggression on serbia was illegal and unjustified and cowardly, no ground troops, for example. there was no war in kosovo and no albanian refugees until AFTER nato started bombing serbia.

'I’d probably be throwing rocks at tanks too.'

forgive me please, but your entire post is like a compilation of emtpy, empty antiisreali propaganda slogans. hows this for innocents throwing rocks

http://info.jpost.com/C001/Supplements/Disco/index.html

and its just one of literally thousands attacks in the past decades.

'Israel clearly has a right to exist'

why, thank you so much. just out of curiosity, how many other countries around the world get various sorts of people graciously acknowledging their right to exist and feeling mighty righteous afterward? not many, right? for antisemites, i guess it's a big step to say jews have a right to have their state, jews have a right to exist. but guess what, israel doesnt care if any of you agree it should exist. it will exist with its people's hard work and dedication to survive and thrive, and it will survive and thrive. just like before.


Luciano,
'My dear Serb friends stand together with us in our fight against the mujahadeen killers targeting Israeli women and children just as every righteous Jew stands with you in your struggle for the lives and dignity of your fellow Serbs in your sacred Kosovo.'

God bless you.